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On December 02 2016 01:36 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 01:23 Tictock wrote:
Having internet issues at home so I'm better Nguyen forced to read and post via mobile. Means I won't be doing the filter dives of death and Shape that I wanted too.
Thinking about the game this morning I'm thinking the answer might be as easy as Shape/Ch8. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing what mafia was doing in the latter half of the day as NU became the lynch. Checkm8 is also reminding me a bit of foreman from last game, who was a newbie that rolled scum and gave up posting after a day when he realized he had no way to keep up.
It's possible Onegu is scum but his posts right after the lynch seem fairly towns to me actually. He was more happy about his own filter length than having caught scum. I feel like scum would feel more pressure to fake being happy about the lynch. LOL If this is true, there is the possibility the game ends in few hours. Nobody is killed, because scum fails to vote a kill. Instead Shlog and CM8 get modkilled for failing to post, after being already warned for failing to vote. Game ends, 0 town lost. Just thinking about this possibility kills my motivation to do my last 2 filter dives. -.-
This would be a really sad game if that happens...
Especially when it took over a month to get this game started.
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Humm in my PoV this game is basically solvable just by PoE now.
Lynch through Shape,Ch8, SL. If that doesn't do it then there is mafia in darth/Onegu.
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Darth I think you are pretty off base with this "NU tried to keep himself the only wagon so his buddy could get cred" most of what I saw from NU was legit trying to not get lynched.
Let's assume you are right for a moment though. Who do you think is the mafia on NU's wagon?
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On December 02 2016 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
My lynch pool/order is:
Shape
Sl if shape is town, off list completely if mafia
Checkm8
Rels (confirmed town)
Onegu
Really? What makes you think SL and Shape are never a team?
I think if Shape flips scum then that makes SL more likely to be scum. Granted that is largely based on the one weird town read Shape made on SL.
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@Darth I don't think you say "I'm town" a million times if you are trying to go down for your team.
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On December 02 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:30 Shapelog wrote:
Urg. Not being able to play yesterday messed me up.
Got my busier schedule today. When I get time, i'll filter.
I thought of something about SL last night however. I'm not terribly sure about it yet, and honestly, the evidence to support it is very very very bad. But in a previous mafia game (can't remember the name), I fake claimed mafia early into the game (was town). Scum!SL jumped on it, and pushed the fact that I could (due to my "eccrtice" past) be doing that as mafia to look fearless. He used it also to justify tunneling me for the day phase.
Here, SL did not take that liberty. Instead, he just nodded and left it be, while trying to gain info (post about the discussion being bad between me and LS but townie) from what happens around it. He could of jumped on it if he was mafia (especially this time with my claim.) yet didn't.
I know it was one game, but he had a opportunity to push me for it and didn't take it. thoughts (even tho i won't be here in 10 mins :/)? This post is why sl and shape aren't likely a team
Lol, that is the same post I was talking about.
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On December 02 2016 03:14 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 03:05 Tictock wrote:
@Darth I don't think you say "I'm town" a million times if you are trying to go down for your team. It's a great way to go down for the team because it sounds on the surface like something a town might say EoD when they're on the block. But this and the rest of his EoD lacked any urgency. Saying I'm town 1400 times won't actually get anyone to switch their vote, but it artificially seems like you're trying to get people to switch their vote.
Ok I can see what you mean, but I still get the sense he was hoping to avoid the lynch. We will just have to disagree.
This whole line of thought is pretty WIFOM and I'm not sure it's really productive. It is possible that there was mafia on the NU wagon, but I kinda doubt it right now.
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On December 02 2016 03:55 mahrgell wrote:TT time! Let's do it quick this time - D1 lazy scum or lazy town, after rereading I still feel lazy town is more likely, there was one large list post which read well but had it obvious flaws as pointed out earlier - his ending of the day looked strange, but it follows this "lazy ..." stuff. - his N1 looks more active, finally. What I lack here is a clear direction. Like I see statements, judgements, but it ends here. Him going with "lets kill the 3 afks" fits the lazy scum narrative, but at the same time you can't ask afks, so well... I can somehow get behind that too So from only this, TT is just another fish in the neut pool for me. BUT... there is one thing... that confused me and I would like to have answers: Here HF is a townlean, although very weirdly put. (this was mentioned by several players) Before EoD, when he settled on the NU lynch now HF could very well be mafia. I don't read this as a direct contradiction to his first post, although I can see this being scummish to move of a read which was called out a lot for waffling. But that is not what I'm after. In his first content post after EoD now he wants to build a towncircle with Koshi, Rels (both locktown in his initial list), me (explained in that post) and HF. Where does HF come from? He didn't mention HF at all. HF certainly did not suddenly look better because NU flipped scum. And I didn't see any great posts from HF between EoD and TTs post to explainn this change of mind either. But somehow suddenly TT wanted to town circle with HF? I would love to know how this came together.
Reread my posts. I don't think HF throws a vote on Rels and spends his time arueing with him while the Framer is up for lynch. He was also telling people to vote NU despite his own vote. All of that goes pretty clearly against mafia objectives.
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On December 02 2016 04:36 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh marigold.
I see what you did there Honeyfoofoo.
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Shit Koshi you played too well and got yourself shot. Not the worst thing ever though as we seem to have a pretty good handle on this game without extra blue info.
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On December 02 2016 07:03 darthfoley wrote:
don't understand why the medic or jk didn't save Koshi. Thought he was most town
I'm kinda assuming it's setup #3 with a flipped Framer and Cop. Maybe JK decided he had a better TR on someone else, also possibly got RB'd.
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Well let's get this Day started.
##Vote: Shapelog
Better get that stunt double ready to be hung.
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On December 02 2016 09:26 mahrgell wrote:
And no, my rant does not end here....
While I agree with the general sentiment of your rant (I don't get the reverence people have for HF either) what did you make of my reasons to TR him?
Not just the stuff about EoD either, the stuff I mentioned as townpoints in my list post.
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On December 02 2016 09:32 sicklucker wrote:
Wait people are acualy voting shapelog? hes like one of my stronger town reads. mostly just because I dont think he fake cop claims day one as mafia. Like I read that as actively trying to take a bullet then he claimed a little too hard.
Either way its really not something a mafia does ever. Then again I try not to read shapelogs posts so thats really all im reading him off of
Have you ever played with a Mafialog?
He is one of those people who breaks almost all the. normal rules.
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Actually the fact the Shape has only done the one weird thing (that cop claim) is part of what makes me think he is mafia. Basically no evidence of the trolley happy Shape this game, he has been suspiciously serious.
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On December 02 2016 09:38 mahrgell wrote:
Ranting done, now to the minor reads...
First off, thanks for following your WoT posts with a one liner kus I don't want to quote a WoT on my phone.
Second what's the problem with throwing down a vote right away? If Shape comes back and is super town you move the vote, otherwise just let it ride.
We should use the time waiting for Shape to respond discussing who the last scum might be though. Don't want to waste the day age voting.
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On December 02 2016 09:48 sicklucker wrote:
Ls you should do your little meta thing on me because I want to focus on the issues. I need to get some alternative lynch going
Humm interesting that you saved all your defense from Koshi's push till after he died and now want an alternate to a Shape lynch.
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On December 02 2016 09:54 mahrgell wrote:
And one last thing I would like to remind people of:
CM8 and Shlog can not be scum together. This is simply ruled out.
Unless you are saying that they both risked being mod killed for not posting the entire night after being warned for not voting, but somehow submitted a nightkill!
There is at least one active scum around.
And now if you apply this logic, this is actually making the Shlog train much weaker.
Assume you give CM8 a chance of 30% to be scum. This means Shlog has maximum 70% if there is guaranteed to be one scum between those two. And there is still the chance neither is scum.
If you now tell me SHLOG SCUM 100%... Okay. Then you have to really convince me why CM8 can't be scum.
Nah it's totes possible man. Send the kill in via phone or w/e but don't have the energy to actually make posts.
Shape even posted RIGHT after start of day, so even if CM8 is scum and has given up on the game then at least shape could have posted the kill.
Maybe it's not Shape/CM8, but this is not a good reason why it's not them. You are assuming a little too much.
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So SL suddenly being really active and posting paragraphs of text is really setting off alarm bells in my head. Especially since this change happened right after the main person pushing him died.
Really getting mafia vibes from him now. I will make sure we keep pressure on him in Koshi's name!
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Also the internet at home is still being shit. I read a whole page waiting for it to load up TL. So apparently I am stuck phone posting still.
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