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NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 01:27 GMT
#332
Tictock feels less interested in the game than usual. :/ At least that's what his filter makes me think.

(Also, he is found twice in the player list on page 1 while Onegu doesn't figure there)
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 13:50 GMT
#502
On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.

Flagged this post, I dun like it.
1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS.
2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that.

Requires further investigation.

I didn't make "something out of nothing". LS' post I quoted summarized the 10 posts that were made before he posted, and that feels forced. He also mentioned that this was his first game in a while, and if you look at the structure of the post re:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

you'll notice that that part looks like he forcing to include it in his sentence because he draws the intention away from him in the next sentence.

Show me how I'm pulling this argument out of my ass. Explain to me how what I've pointed out doesn't stand out.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 13:53 GMT
#505
On November 29 2016 13:03 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.

Flagged this post as well.

1) Activity will happen whether or not mafia wants it to, therefore it's null imo.
2) LS doing this "Hey town read me for this thing you town read someone else for" reminds me of things that I've said when I'm scum. Suspicious!


I don't understand either of these two points in context.

Perhaps you didn't read the context re: the post I quoted was LS' post in another game where he was mafia.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 13:55 GMT
#506
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
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Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

Making comparisons between [ToS/SC2ModMafia] and forum mafia is not a thing to do :3
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 13:59 GMT
#509
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 14:10 GMT
#517
On November 29 2016 23:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.


Cool quotes at first sight but it is completely different to say "hi" at the start of the game, or what I did. I can see how town!Checkm8 makes that distinction.

Do you really believe you found something scummy here?

My point was that it was a contradiction.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 14:12 GMT
#518
On November 29 2016 23:08 Koshi wrote:
Also quoting 2 posts and not writing anything under it feels like an opportunistic as fuck mafia play.

"Please make the wrong assumption town"
"Please call me town for finding this contradiction"


Meh.

Or...

"Explain this contradiction" with the infamous "zzzzzzz"
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 14:21 GMT
#523
On November 29 2016 23:15 Koshi wrote:
Why don't you have an opinion on it?

Again. I ask you. Did you found this contradiction scummy the moment you saw it? Clearly you did, so tell us why.

He went from saying that LS was acting friendly to start conversations and that having a scum-read on him based on that (My read isn't even based on that) is shallow to saying that mobsters are usually the ones who act friendly. Following his logic, he would be inclined to think that it could make LS mafia.

Plus, he gives me a scummer-read after straw manning my read on LS.

I'd like him to explain how he thinks I'm pulling stuff out of my ass (EC too, stating something doesn't make it true zzz), why he scum-reads me, and what the difference between LS acting nice and mafia acting nice in ToS is.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 14:55 GMT
#530
#526

5) and 6) mostly reflect my thoughts on both these players. However, I really don't like this: "Fuck it, I guess I leave [LS] to people who can judge him better until I have seen more from him to form a more conclusive opinion. " It comes back to HF's point re: dedicating a post to someone and not having a clear opinion on them.

On that note, you still have no read on me despite liking the points that were made against me and claiming I am the one you have the most meta with.

Also, fucking stop calling me "controversial" and whatnot.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 15:00 GMT
#532
On November 29 2016 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like you just made a wall of text on every player in the game for no real reason and the majority of your scum leans are simply the unproductive ones. It just seems so out of place. Why the need for the summary?

^
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 15:23 GMT
#537
On November 30 2016 00:01 mahrgell wrote:
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On November 29 2016 23:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
#526

5) and 6) mostly reflect my thoughts on both these players. However, I really don't like this: "Fuck it, I guess I leave [LS] to people who can judge him better until I have seen more from him to form a more conclusive opinion. " It comes back to HF's point re: dedicating a post to someone and not having a clear opinion on them.

On that note, you still have no read on me despite liking the points that were made against me and claiming I am the one you have the most meta with.

Also, fucking stop calling me "controversial" and whatnot.


COntroversial most in the sense that you are among the most suspected players in this game. Deal with it.

And about not having a read, I think I explained why. Because I feel that what you write in this game, and what others call you out for makes you look scummish in isolation. If I add back the meta, it makes you look townish. So back to square 0.

But I don't see much point in argueing about that. I have nothing to add to the allegations against you and it is up to you if you feel you defended enough against those.

If you don't feel like they are worth commenting more, just share more good stuff about other players. Like what are your opinions on HF, SL, emp, TT and LS?


The allegations as you put it are that I made stuff out of thin air (emp and checkmate) which I debunked, that my post on LS was tainted by the fact that I had a pre-made conclusion on him which is a blatant shade-throw for someone who claims to have no read on me (emp), and that I'm losing ppl with my train of thought (Shape, you). (And a point that emp misunderstood)
No example/explanation for the first, shade for the second, and my arguments being too IQ demanding for the third. That's my "case".

Here are my reads:
TOWN
DF
Koshi

LEAN-T
Checkmate
Onegu

LEAN-SCUM
EC
TT ??
SL

HF's point on you is something I agree with. Like I told you in the noobers game, you don't interact with peoplez enough which makes you look unnatural, not transparent which is a mafia trait. I don't have anything to lean either way on him though.

SL has been useless and not in a funny Grack/Superbia way, so he can be scum-leaned until he starts moving his ass.

emp, I don't understand how anyone could town-read him. His serious posts after his trolling were about me, and as I mentioned above, one of them was a misunderstanding and the other one had no evidence on why I was making shit up and contained something I perceive as a shade-throw because he doesn't even scum-read me.

TT seems uninterested by the game :3 I'm thinking it could be NAI because he was willing to give Onegu his spot in the pre-game which would show that he is not that interested in the game, so it's kind of a moot point.

LS, I despised his first post, but I enjoy his attitude in this game. Tone doesn't sound maf. He's null for me now.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 15:27 GMT
#540
On November 30 2016 00:24 Holyflare wrote:
I don't play at work, you're lucky I'm even posting anything right now and even this is tough. My "only content" so far is great and was posted on the train. It's quite easy to see I have a thought process and am following it up whenever my scum read posts (you).

I simply don't have time to read anything other than the latest posts till I get home.

Basically, I think your stances are poor. They are based on meta and/or some form of insubstantial tidbit. "This guy feels different," "Koshi is town for this but here's something I need answers for even though you're not scummy looking at all".

Your mindset just doesn't align with how I'd be thinking if I was thinking what you're thinking. You're questioning your town reads and aren't really concerned about your scum reads. Your only questions are really to your highest town read and have done not much to get any more information from your scum leans.

You want content but you rehash the game in a giant wall and expect people to do something. You want activity, you make activity by asking questions and pushing things. Not by idly commenting in a summary.


The first sentence makes me think that HF is town.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 15:46 GMT
#542
What is the purpose of this post other than riding HF's dick?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 16:16 GMT
#553
On November 30 2016 01:03 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote:
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Ticktock


I am left with these names.


What did Emp and Darth do that impressed you?

Yo, Tictock

Can you comment on my concern of you seeming disconnected from the game?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 16:25 GMT
#558
On November 30 2016 01:21 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu?

I recognize myself in him, and he's funny. I also think that his "Where is everyone?" and "SL was here then left..." posts were town. However, I don't think he's the most town itt anymore because he has yet to make a serious post which worries me. I can see where Koshi is coming from with the Dandel comparison.

Off for a while
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 22:35 GMT
#654
On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their [first?] game with me ever they would try to push me at someway.

Explain to me how my pushes on both you and emperor were opportunistic please.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 22:41 GMT
#661
On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ?

His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman.

I am a sucker for people that say this:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha...

And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town.
[...]

Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well.

Why is LS obvious town to you?




"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 22:45 GMT
#666
On November 30 2016 07:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:42 Rels wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:
TIME T1: Onegu says something
On November 29 2016 09:44 Onegu wrote:
Also what happend to SL he said hi to me then just bounced...

TIME T2 a few hours later: SL posts something
On November 29 2016 13:24 sicklucker wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:18 Tictock wrote:
Oh right, the whole Koshi vs Onegu thing.

I will prob ignore any and all of that just like Calix vs NU.


tru me too .townie

TIME T3 another few hours alter: SL reacts to what Onegu says on T1
On November 29 2016 17:30 sicklucker wrote:
and onegu why you getting mad for sayin hi to you. there was 2 posts in the thread not worth my time to stick around ;p

So that shows he read the game before posting at T3. So that means that (1) he read the whole thread but didn't tryhard to gain townieness from it and (2) posted randomly in the thread wihtout following it at all at T2, which you tend to not do as scum.
I guess ? It sounded better in my head.

I can see what you want to say. I as mafia was always very aware of that indeed.
But it is not good enough atm for sl.

Do you like NU?

No apart from his big post which was townie.

Exactly. That removed him from my scumlist.
But his play is really not up to date. Also. Dat filter. He feels restricted in his posting.

I do restrict what I post, yeah.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 22:56 GMT
#678
On November 30 2016 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their [first?] game with me ever they would try to push me at someway.

Explain to me how my pushes on both you and emperor were opportunistic please.

In both instances you pushed us when people were pushing us. Can't do exact time stamp I still on mobile. Anyways my phone is dying so I won't be able to post till I get it charged.

It's actually the opposite. I pushed both of you when no one was pushing you.

@emperorchampion Can you walk me through your read progression on me specifically?
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On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.

Flagged this post, I dun like it.
1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS.
2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that.

Requires further investigation.

On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.

On November 30 2016 02:55 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 30 2016 02:39 Shapelog wrote:
On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.

What has made NU town for you now?

Also, you think LS is setting up to act like there is mafia between you and NU?


For now he seems to understand why he's not mafia, albeit a little rudely, but I'll take it for now.

Feels like it yeah.

On November 30 2016 03:41 emperorchampion wrote:
LS / NU / mahrgell will sort out later I think, but are town for now

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 29 2016 23:16 GMT
#701
On November 30 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote:
This NU guy is so disconnected from the thread. Quite hilarious.

Disconnected from the thread, no. Disconnected from your 1 on 1 with Rels, yes. There is no comment I can make or think of making in relation to your conversation and would much rather dive filters and understand others.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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