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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 05 2016 22:17 GMT
#2261
On December 06 2016 07:10 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 03:52 mahrgell wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:35 Tictock wrote:

Also @ Gell
What about my play makes you think I'm just waiting for Onegu to post? Did I just wait around D2 waiting for Shape as well?


You acknowledge Onegus vote and wait for Onegu to case you twice... And simply ignore the stuff thats already out there. Why you ask him out? Why not come for me or respond there.

Even Emp clearly had doubts here. Why not ask him why he distrusts you?

Making it look like a lynch on you only depends on an afk is just... beh. And really not a first in this game... Like most your "interaction" this game has been with afks... Talking to people who can respond is more fruitful...

On December 05 2016 07:43 Tictock wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:22 Onegu wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:19 mahrgell wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I think we leave Rels/sl since having the jk alive is pretty good, mafia has to target them at some point. If we can find the partner then the game is actually 100% over.

That might be a good idea actually. If we ever kill the other scum the game is over


If you are JK and not Scum, you are dead next night.



Or he can be town and trying to eat a shot... there are other options... its wifom and we should figure it out later...


Exactly it's all a pile of WIFOM that is best just left aside for now.

I'm more interested in hearing why you think I'm scum now.



On December 05 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:49 emperorchampion wrote:
Unless I'm off base with darth/mahrgell this game is really down to Onegu v TT. If Onegu can make a convincing case, then this game could be in a very very good position.


Good to know my life is in Onegu's hands.

Better be a good case if I'm gunna get hanged for it.



That last quate was me being snarky at Emps post because he was basically saying he thought I was Scum but was waiting for Onegu to case me.

Otherwise I've just been posting as I see fit and pushing Onegu to case me.


2 birds 1 stone. If Onegu can make a compelling case, there's reason to town read him. That's why I want him to step up.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 05 2016 22:18 GMT
#2262
On December 06 2016 07:16 darthfoley wrote:
I'm confused to what your claiming.

I think SL is mafia and if that's the case HF has to be town. But I think he's town regardless


OK I just don't know what you're referring too cause you didn't quote anything
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 05 2016 22:19 GMT
#2263
@TT: Do you think you found scum in me? What is your play right now?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:20 GMT
#2264
On December 06 2016 04:25 sicklucker wrote:
I was going to unclaim 1 minute before deadline but I was late. fucking hilliarious rels probably got the idea from me in previous games. its bad in his spot tho. so very bad prevents the fucking cc.

[image loading]


Lol you deserve kudos points for such a good gif choice here.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:26 GMT
#2265
On December 06 2016 04:27 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 04:25 sicklucker wrote:
On December 06 2016 04:24 Rels wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:42 Holyflare wrote:
You're like a terrible robot ticktock that has to make posts that sheep people and be politically correct and clinical. There's no passion in you and absolutely no tinfoil on these claims.

I miss the old lynch on day 1 you man.

++
I think TT is the last scum


Why the fuck would he defend me when the vote count is 2 votes for sl and 2 votes for ticktock. wtf garbage are you spewing

Cause it s so scummy it has to be town right.
+ I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about his reads all game. So careful, so logical. HF & Rels & marhgell & LS are all super town! Doesn't make sense for TT. The more I think about it the more I'm convinced.


I thought I had pretty solid reasons for Them. Maybe not very much so on LS but it felt like NU legit went after him right off which is pretty good.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:28 GMT
#2266
On December 06 2016 04:32 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 04:29 mahrgell wrote:
But this really reminds me, that there is still wildcard Onegu in the game... GNAAAAAAAA

And where is DF? ...

Sadly both of them has shown that they are capable to just disappear as town )= I would never lynch them over EC / TT right now. But since I will confirm one tomorrow and the other will be lynched, the next day if the game isn't over you can bring them up.


So from your perspective I bussed my entire team D1?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:30 GMT
#2267
On December 06 2016 04:36 sicklucker wrote:
or for fuck sakes onegu or darthfoley can be the jailkeeper. lololol


Nope Onegu would have claimed when he voted me and I'm mostly sure Darth chimed in right at Daystart.
I can take that responsibility.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 05 2016 22:30 GMT
#2268
On December 06 2016 06:42 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 02:28 emperorchampion wrote:
I just can't wrap my head around how sl's fake claim has town intent. I guess I'll believe his reasons if he flips green.


This is such a mafia post, you don't call out someone fake claiming with 0 Town intent then imply they are gunna flip green.

Starting to buy the world of Emp/SL here.

If we can be sure Onegu is town then you guys can even lynch between me/Emp/SL.

I'm not sure I can buy Gell or Darth being scum. I could see HF maybe still, but I can follow his train of thought pretty well today. Besides half my read on him is just paranoia.

With Rels being JK I think you guys should be forming a town circle between Rels/Gell/Darth and trying to rule out mafia from there.


I'm not implying anything. I just don't believe that he claims jailer as town at night anymore. If he does flip green then I was wrong and his crazy reasons were true, and woe is me.

Please make a proper case on me TT instead of just quoting a bunch of posts that I've made.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:34 GMT
#2269
On December 06 2016 04:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 04:37 Tictock wrote:
On December 06 2016 01:01 Rels wrote:
On December 06 2016 00:07 mahrgell wrote:
On December 05 2016 20:47 Rels wrote:
On December 05 2016 20:29 mahrgell wrote:
On December 05 2016 20:20 Rels wrote:
marhgell, the probability that SL fakeclaimed at night is like 0.01%; it's low to begin with, but here he posted after the night ended and didn't rescind his claim, which is the first thing he would have done as town.


You are really making me hate you right now.
If he is VT, fakeclaiming... Then for sure as hell he will not rescind his claim at day AFTER you claimed.
VT fakeclaiming will rescind when there is no CC. But when there is a CC, he basically has to go with it... And somehow hope scum is confused with the number of options.
This was basically my reasoning on why I was willing to drop the discussion... But well... yeah, by now even the last scum has probably figured this shit out.

You're not thinking logically. You gotta read this: IF SICKLUCKER IS TOWN AND FAKECLAIMING TO DRAW A BULLET HE WILL RESCIND IF HE S COUNTERCLAIMED DURING THE DAY.
Why would he not ? Why would he try to get me lynched when he KNOWS I'm the Jailkeeper ? Your reasonning doesn't make any sense


When did he try to get you lynched???
Not seeing it. Actually the thread consensus was to leave you both alone. And in this atmosphere, if he believes you are both protown, he should keep his claim for maximum uncertainity on who is the real one.

So again, who is not making sense here?

He didnt rescind his claim when he quoted my claim -> he is putting town in a claim ear situation for no reason + I'm also a possible Lynch if people believe he's jk over me.
You're the one not making sense. You might have a really defined idea in your head but listen to people who have experience: sicklucker is NOT VT. You can decode he's jk or you can decide I'm jk.


What made you so sure SL was keeping his claim and or pushing you?

I went back and checked, SL made one post after Daypost and it doesn't really mean anything.

I could see SL not even seeing your claim or being like me and missing you sticking to your claim.

I also find it odd that you so readily agreed to Emps post about leaving you and SL alive but now have 180'd on him with only one pretty throwaway post from SL.

I'm not doubting your claim unless an actual CC happens, but right now there is way too much jumping to conclusions when we should use the time we have to work through things more carefully.

Cause he made a post and didn't rescind his claim.
I didn't turn around on the SL one post, I turn around because I slept and thought about it


Fair enough.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:38 GMT
#2270
On December 06 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 11:49 Tictock wrote:
Rels and HF's little argument at EoD makes me town read them so hard. Not only does it just look like TvT but I can't believe either of them would pull that shit as scum when their buddy was being lynched.

That's the shitty read I was remembering about. Nobody townread us both at that point, and that's a bad reason to think we're both town. That's just a very safe read towards the players he perceives as the strongest.


I'm glad you are getting familiar with my early reads. It's looking like they were really fucking good to me right now.
I can take that responsibility.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
December 05 2016 22:38 GMT
#2271
Day 3 Vote Count

[image loading]


  • Tictock (3): Onegu, mahrgell, sicklucker,
  • sicklucker (2): Rels, Holyflare,


Not voting (4): Tictock, darthfoley, emperorchampion, Checkm8

Currently, Tictock is the lynch.

Remember, voting is mandatory.

Day 3 will end in at Tuesday, Dec 06 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). Currently,
Tictock is slated to be lynched.

Only votes in the voting thread and with the correct format will be counted.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:43 GMT
#2272
On December 06 2016 06:32 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 06:31 darthfoley wrote:
Also if sl is town, it's kind of a bs selfish play to fake claim jk just to survive an extra day or two. JK could've stayed hidden longer and we weren't in a myol. If you were trying to do some meta play, mafia obviously didn't fall for it which brings me back to my point of why try it in the first place.

I guess it does stir the pot, but idk if the pot needed to be stirred


yes and i would have unclaimed at the start of the day. rels beat me too it by claiming the at night lol


Humm I can sorta see this, though I feel like you left things way too open by not fussing up when Rels did claim.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:48 GMT
#2273
On December 06 2016 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 06:32 Tictock wrote:
On December 06 2016 02:27 Rels wrote:
Basically you changed versions twice already. Stop trying mate.

You're going to get lynched. You were the scummiest player alive BEFORE the fakeclaim. And the town explanation behind the fakeclaim makes no sense when the scum explanation does: you TMI slipped, then you fakeclaimed at a weird time to gain towncred and making the real JK cc since you were probably the next lynch, then now your best bet at not getting lynched is rescinding. IDK if you always thought of rescinding or not, I suppose you were waiting to see what was the best option.

And that's jsut taking into account the fakeclaim, which by itself should get you lynched. Before that you were already soooo scummy. So basically you're dead.

So STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF. Go and take the 30 hours you have and find scum if you're really the unluckiest town ever. You're not getting out of today alive.


This 100%

Go Go Rels!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]





Now you're saying we should lynch sl......???


Was more the telling SL to do shit and not just defend himself, but I warmed up to the idea a little.

I'm not totally sold yet though.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:50 GMT
#2274
On December 06 2016 07:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 06:42 Tictock wrote:
On December 06 2016 02:28 emperorchampion wrote:
I just can't wrap my head around how sl's fake claim has town intent. I guess I'll believe his reasons if he flips green.


This is such a mafia post, you don't call out someone fake claiming with 0 Town intent then imply they are gunna flip green.

Starting to buy the world of Emp/SL here.

If we can be sure Onegu is town then you guys can even lynch between me/Emp/SL.

I'm not sure I can buy Gell or Darth being scum. I could see HF maybe still, but I can follow his train of thought pretty well today. Besides half my read on him is just paranoia.

With Rels being JK I think you guys should be forming a town circle between Rels/Gell/Darth and trying to rule out mafia from there.


Why is onegu town? That's a bit out of no where.


He's not but everyone seems to be assuming he is.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:53 GMT
#2275
On December 06 2016 07:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 07:04 Tictock wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:46 emperorchampion wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
Emperor what do you make of all the claims? Take a stance bro.


Right now my stance looks like this:

1. Rels
9. mahrgell
6. darthfoley
12. Tictock

2. Holyflare
4. Onegu

11. sicklucker


Wtf, how did HF drop so much in your reads without you interacting with him this whole time?


Reasoning that he was "town confirmed" was based on prior to sl rescinding his claim. My first thought that if one is mafia and claiming to jail HF, then he must be town. I know the reasoning was pretty bullshit, I believe that it was darth who actually first pointed it out.


So, like what are your actual thoughts on HF, why is he super scummy now?
I can take that responsibility.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 05 2016 22:54 GMT
#2276
Ugh Rels help me, this feels exactly like when prplhz dropped the hammer in our last game. I have this problem where I think that if a play is bad for town it must be mafia.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 05 2016 22:57 GMT
#2277
On December 06 2016 07:17 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 07:10 Tictock wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:52 mahrgell wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:35 Tictock wrote:

Also @ Gell
What about my play makes you think I'm just waiting for Onegu to post? Did I just wait around D2 waiting for Shape as well?


You acknowledge Onegus vote and wait for Onegu to case you twice... And simply ignore the stuff thats already out there. Why you ask him out? Why not come for me or respond there.

Even Emp clearly had doubts here. Why not ask him why he distrusts you?

Making it look like a lynch on you only depends on an afk is just... beh. And really not a first in this game... Like most your "interaction" this game has been with afks... Talking to people who can respond is more fruitful...

On December 05 2016 07:43 Tictock wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:22 Onegu wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:19 mahrgell wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I think we leave Rels/sl since having the jk alive is pretty good, mafia has to target them at some point. If we can find the partner then the game is actually 100% over.

That might be a good idea actually. If we ever kill the other scum the game is over


If you are JK and not Scum, you are dead next night.



Or he can be town and trying to eat a shot... there are other options... its wifom and we should figure it out later...


Exactly it's all a pile of WIFOM that is best just left aside for now.

I'm more interested in hearing why you think I'm scum now.



On December 05 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:49 emperorchampion wrote:
Unless I'm off base with darth/mahrgell this game is really down to Onegu v TT. If Onegu can make a convincing case, then this game could be in a very very good position.


Good to know my life is in Onegu's hands.

Better be a good case if I'm gunna get hanged for it.



That last quate was me being snarky at Emps post because he was basically saying he thought I was Scum but was waiting for Onegu to case me.

Otherwise I've just been posting as I see fit and pushing Onegu to case me.


2 birds 1 stone. If Onegu can make a compelling case, there's reason to town read him. That's why I want him to step up.


Right so I doesn't matter what you think of me, it's Onegu who decides what you think about me.
I can take that responsibility.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 05 2016 23:04 GMT
#2278
On December 06 2016 07:53 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 07:11 emperorchampion wrote:
On December 06 2016 07:04 Tictock wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:46 emperorchampion wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
Emperor what do you make of all the claims? Take a stance bro.


Right now my stance looks like this:

1. Rels
9. mahrgell
6. darthfoley
12. Tictock

2. Holyflare
4. Onegu

11. sicklucker


Wtf, how did HF drop so much in your reads without you interacting with him this whole time?


Reasoning that he was "town confirmed" was based on prior to sl rescinding his claim. My first thought that if one is mafia and claiming to jail HF, then he must be town. I know the reasoning was pretty bullshit, I believe that it was darth who actually first pointed it out.


So, like what are your actual thoughts on HF, why is he super scummy now?

Combination of:
1) Wants to lynch me.
2) I don't like how much time he's spent proving how town he must be, I just want him to find some mafia.
3) Tin-foil with possible teams, sl/hf seems un-likely but I don't know on the others.

I just don't know on so many things now.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
December 05 2016 23:05 GMT
#2279
##Vote: sicklucker
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 05 2016 23:06 GMT
#2280
On December 06 2016 07:57 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 07:17 emperorchampion wrote:
On December 06 2016 07:10 Tictock wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:52 mahrgell wrote:
On December 06 2016 03:35 Tictock wrote:

Also @ Gell
What about my play makes you think I'm just waiting for Onegu to post? Did I just wait around D2 waiting for Shape as well?


You acknowledge Onegus vote and wait for Onegu to case you twice... And simply ignore the stuff thats already out there. Why you ask him out? Why not come for me or respond there.

Even Emp clearly had doubts here. Why not ask him why he distrusts you?

Making it look like a lynch on you only depends on an afk is just... beh. And really not a first in this game... Like most your "interaction" this game has been with afks... Talking to people who can respond is more fruitful...

On December 05 2016 07:43 Tictock wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:22 Onegu wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:19 mahrgell wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I think we leave Rels/sl since having the jk alive is pretty good, mafia has to target them at some point. If we can find the partner then the game is actually 100% over.

That might be a good idea actually. If we ever kill the other scum the game is over


If you are JK and not Scum, you are dead next night.



Or he can be town and trying to eat a shot... there are other options... its wifom and we should figure it out later...


Exactly it's all a pile of WIFOM that is best just left aside for now.

I'm more interested in hearing why you think I'm scum now.



On December 05 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote:
On December 05 2016 07:49 emperorchampion wrote:
Unless I'm off base with darth/mahrgell this game is really down to Onegu v TT. If Onegu can make a convincing case, then this game could be in a very very good position.


Good to know my life is in Onegu's hands.

Better be a good case if I'm gunna get hanged for it.



That last quate was me being snarky at Emps post because he was basically saying he thought I was Scum but was waiting for Onegu to case me.

Otherwise I've just been posting as I see fit and pushing Onegu to case me.


2 birds 1 stone. If Onegu can make a compelling case, there's reason to town read him. That's why I want him to step up.


Right so I doesn't matter what you think of me, it's Onegu who decides what you think about me.


Not that at all. I still care what I think about you, if he has a good case potentially more reasons to scum read you. And reasons to town read him. If he has a shit case then reasons to scum read him. Looking bad for him right now since he just afk voted you and said he'd provide a case later.
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