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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 31 2016 19:51 GMT
#5036
Artanis, I'm Ostarion if that helps you in anyway.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 31 2016 20:06 GMT
#5041
On November 01 2016 05:03 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 04:32 Tubesock wrote:
I'm deciding between Koshi and Kurumi.


doing anything anti town to koshi is a scum claim....


I'm in your poe anyway so I'll die no matter what.

And I think you're all wrong about him and his "confirmed" status.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 31 2016 20:17 GMT
#5043
On November 01 2016 05:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 05:01 sicklucker wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Of course I will, it's against my best interests as you people seem to think I can be an sk. It doesn't make any sense to avoid people who are likely mafia on an sk witch hunt when my role already included killing some players that for all I know could be town.

You claim you can't win this game at all. So how is it against YOUR best interest that town doesn't try to find an SK. You lose anyway right?

Or is that 0.1% chance suddenly way higher?

Chances are high that there is 6 antitown in this game, that is just proper balance. 5 makes less sense. But due to LT and Exo flipping it is very likely there is an SK in the game + 5 mafia. Or it is 4 mafia 1 sk, and we are looking really good atm.

So yes, we should consider lynching the SK because he probably has as much kp as the mafia team on his own. Or close to it. Lynching SK tomorrow actually makes it more likely for town to win than lynching mafia. And it's not that we are lynching townies to find the SK, we are lynching in the PoE pool but want to have a good chance to kill either SK or mafia.

I still don't like getting lynched. I rather get endgamed. It's stupid but that's how it is.


[image loading]

do you know how sk that sounds?

If you think this is how I would play an sk and you think I'd be creative enough to make up all the shit I've posted.. Impressed would be the nice way of putting it.


I've read the flair in your games. You're creative enough.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 31 2016 20:25 GMT
#5046
On November 01 2016 05:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 05:17 Tubesock wrote:
On November 01 2016 05:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 01 2016 05:01 sicklucker wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Of course I will, it's against my best interests as you people seem to think I can be an sk. It doesn't make any sense to avoid people who are likely mafia on an sk witch hunt when my role already included killing some players that for all I know could be town.

You claim you can't win this game at all. So how is it against YOUR best interest that town doesn't try to find an SK. You lose anyway right?

Or is that 0.1% chance suddenly way higher?

Chances are high that there is 6 antitown in this game, that is just proper balance. 5 makes less sense. But due to LT and Exo flipping it is very likely there is an SK in the game + 5 mafia. Or it is 4 mafia 1 sk, and we are looking really good atm.

So yes, we should consider lynching the SK because he probably has as much kp as the mafia team on his own. Or close to it. Lynching SK tomorrow actually makes it more likely for town to win than lynching mafia. And it's not that we are lynching townies to find the SK, we are lynching in the PoE pool but want to have a good chance to kill either SK or mafia.

I still don't like getting lynched. I rather get endgamed. It's stupid but that's how it is.


[image loading]

do you know how sk that sounds?

If you think this is how I would play an sk and you think I'd be creative enough to make up all the shit I've posted.. Impressed would be the nice way of putting it.


I've read the flair in your games. You're creative enough.

To imagine a third party with 7 wincons which I'd claim after someone already claimed 3rd party while under no pressure and coming up with elaborate ways in which it'd work where some I can claim and some I can't which can all potentially be proven wrong if I'm lying by the other person who claimed 3rd party?

Come on.


I should have added "To be fair" in that last. I think you're 3rd, it's why I told you I'm Ostavarion.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 31 2016 22:43 GMT
#5079
Koshi. You should lynch me over Ritoky. He's actually confirmed town.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 31 2016 22:46 GMT
#5081
I attacked ExO along with several others. I haven't checked but if he's an enemy of my character then I get bonuses. No idea how much I did to him.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 31 2016 22:50 GMT
#5086
I said it earlier but you have to lynch me not kill me via damage.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 31 2016 22:57 GMT
#5094
I never claimed SK. Where did you get that?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 01 2016 23:27 GMT
#5163
I attacked Koshi again like I said I would. Probably again today unless I change my mind and go to Artanis.

I don't really think Kurumi is mafia either.

I don't think it's Bill either.

Meh

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 00:19 GMT
#5167
On November 02 2016 09:02 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2016 08:27 Tubesock wrote:
I attacked Koshi again like I said I would. Probably again today unless I change my mind and go to Artanis.

I don't really think Kurumi is mafia either.

I don't think it's Bill either.

Meh



outside of poe, why is it koshi? also have you claimed?


Not really based on poe. It's because he did nothing pro town until the "double lynch" where he killed a towny anyway. It's a good mafia play too. He brings up this double lynch ability when Vivax was 100% dying anyway. There's nothing that mafia could have done that would have stopped Vivax from dying. But if mafia!Koshi has a day vigi power then he could call it a double lynch and not shoot saying he was blocked.

He was on Skynx from early on though. So meh.

I claimed already. Ostarion and I'm basically a Vet.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 00:20 GMT
#5168
Really it's I don't think he should be confirmed town for that and everyone else thinks so but I think they're wrong. Just doesn't seem possible the lock towns are really locked.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 10:13 GMT
#5171
Bill Murray -
Vivax mentioned 39 times (some in quotes etc)
Defends - once
Scums - 4 times
He never gives a reason why he scummed Vivax. Goes + Show Spoiler [Why vote V? & agrees with Koshi] +
On October 24 2016 05:52 Bill Murray wrote:
I don't even know why everyone was voting vivax

On October 25 2016 08:28 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:
Ritoky/Vivax/Sicklucker/Lunatic/skynx

Endgame cred.

Afkers like Humahama/LT can be replaced with 1

Seems legit


Skynx mentioned 46 times. Mostly in quotes or some vote count analysis.
Defends 1.5 times. The half is because he didn't like WoS's "check" since Bill was using wards.
Scums 8 times. Was a point where he wanted to kill Skynx rather than vote him. and afterword he seemed to feel guilty about his all over the place voting and he was "backed up against a wall" + Show Spoiler +
On November 01 2016 16:57 Bill Murray wrote:
Look at my votes when u were wanting to Lynch skynx they were all over the place and so was my mind. I just didn't see how cop checks were a thing since I had that ward .

On November 01 2016 16:57 Bill Murray wrote:
Oh yeah 2 the point my point is that that's how town thinks if they're smart like I am ... kinda all over the place back against the wall kinda thinking. Scum can be more knowledgeable and all knowing


That seems kinda weird to me. He's not proven wrong yet about voting or being suspicious of WaveofShadow, ritoky, or Koshi and he did end up on Skynx. Seems really weird that he votes WoS on Day 1 and 4, but votes with the crowd on Days 2 & 3 with no reasoning. At least with WoS you can see what he's sort of thinking. And "back against the wall" thinking happens when mafia is in a spot they have to figure out if they are going to bus or not.

I totally get voting around like he did on Day 4. I thought it was towny even. But I don't think I'd feel guilty about it at all. When I saw the Night 4 flip I was stoked we killed 2 mafia at once and had 3 total. Why feel guilty? Kinda misplaced like Kurumi's anger the other day.

Koshi
I apologize for attacking Koshi a bunch of times. He's town. Simply based on his D1 and D2 voting.

ritoky - First this response to Skynx:
On October 26 2016 07:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 07:29 Skynx wrote:
I sort of see your point but what i mean is it doesn't confirm other people.

S1: Koshi dead, flipped town. People visiting him still might be town on wrong track. He is like top sr of half the people here.


Right, but you're thinking about it from a town perspective. I am not. I am looking for people who's kneecaps I have to kiss to keep me from being in any danger.

Mind you I have realized, and please don't take offense to this mafias out there, that 1 or 2 mafia probably need to die for this game to go long enough for me to fulfill my win condition. So currently I am a bit more town sided, hence why I tried to use a sentry ward to help town.


Is ritoky capable of faking this underlined statement to his scumbuddy Skynx? I think this is a pretty strong town tell from ritoky.

Anyway there are 25 mentions of Skynx in ritoky's filter. He defends once (above quote) and then names him in a POE list with a lot of other people in it. That's it. I'm not counting the post he says that if Skynx flips red then I am town or busser of the century. But if he's mafia, then saying that about me just makes it much harder to get another mlynch and I'm a great candidate for that.

ritoky is town.

Kurumi-
Mentions Vivax 11 times defends him 4. Votes him Day 4 but I didn't see why (policy maybe, Vivax isn't on any list).
Mentions Skynx 7 times and only says anything about him in 2 of his lists where he is in weird () category.

+ Show Spoiler [Last List] +
On October 25 2016 01:18 Kurumi wrote:
Players:

[Town Reads]
ExO_
Bill Murray
Dandel Ion
Acrofales
Holyflare


[Town Leans]
Koshi
WaveofShadow

[Weird]
ritoky
Tubesock
Tictock
Skynx

[Scum Leans]
ptmc
Hopeless1der
beentheredonethat
sicklucker



[Scum]
Lord Tolkien
Lunaticman
iamperfection




There's zero reasoning on why he voted Vivax or Skynx. Looks like sheeping I guess. They were overwhelming wagons. Day 2 he was midpack vote on Lunaticman and the next day he voted sicklucker. Sicklucker was in his scum leans () section. And of course no reasoning whatsoever. He then somehow ends up on Vivax's wagon despite only defending him. Vivax never makes it onto Kurumi's lists despite Vivax being on the few votes Kurumi actually comments on.

I'm tired. I believe Artanis[Xp]'s 3p claim. WaveofShadow's town just on this filter and leadership.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 10:14 GMT
#5172
Gah Forgot this part.

On October 22 2016 06:04 disformation wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


Tictock (8); Tubesock ritoky, Bill Murray, Koshi
Koshi (4):, TubeSock
Lunaticman (1): ritoky, Koshi
Vivax (2): Tubesock Koshi
Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow (1): Bill Murray
ritoky (1): Koshi
Holyflare (1): Bill Murray
ptmc (0): WaveofShadow
Skynx (0): Koshi
beentheredonethat (0): WaveofShadow
Hopeless1der (0): Koshi
Kurumi (0): Kurumi Bill Murray

On October 25 2016 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 2


Vivax (10):Koshi, Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray, Tubesock
Lunaticman *****(8): Koshi, Koshi, Artanis[xP], Kurumi, ritoky, Lord Tolkien
Tubesock (1): Vivax
Lord Tolkien (0): Kurumi
Exo_ (0): Koshi
GlowingBear (0): Artanis[Xp]
Skynx(0): Koshi. Artanis[X], Tubesock

On October 28 2016 06:02 disformation wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 3


Vivax (9): Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray,Artanis[Xp], Kurumi
Lunaticman**** (5):, Koshi, Artanis[Xp], ritoky
sicklucker (0): Kurumi

On October 31 2016 05:28 AFK Jungle wrote:
Vote Count - Day 4


Skynx (11): WaveofShadow, Tubesock, Koshi, Bill Murray Artanis[Xp], Kurumi, Bill Murray, ritoky
Koshi (1): Skynx, Bill Murray
ritoky (0): Bill Murray
WaveofShadow (0): Bill Murray






1. Artanis[Xp]**-
      Voted Day 1 - none
      Voted Day 2 - Skynx, GlowingBear, Lunaticman
      Voted Day 3 - Vivax, Lunaticman
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx

2. Kurumi -
      Voted Day 1 - Kurumi, Lord Tolkien
      Voted Day 2 - Lord Tolkien, Lunaticman
      Voted Day 3 - sicklucker, Vivax
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx

3. Koshi
      Voted Day 1 - Hopeless1der, Skynx, ritoky, Vivax, Lunaticman, Ticktock
      Voted Day 2 - Skynx, ExO_, Lunaticman, Vivax, Lunaticman
      Voted Day 3 - Lunaticman
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx

4. Tubesock
      Voted Day 1 - Vivax, Ticktock, Koshi
      Voted Day 2 - Skynx, Vivax
      Voted Day 3 - Vivax
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx

5. ritoky
      Voted Day 1 - Lunaticman, Tictock
      Voted Day 2 - Lunaticman
      Voted Day 3 - Lunaticman
      Voted Day 4 - skynx

7. Bill Murray
      Voted Day 1 - Kurumi, HolyFlare, WaveofShadow, Tictock
      Voted Day 2 - Vivax
      Voted Day 3 - Vivax
      Voted Day 4 - WaveofShadow, ritoky, Koshi, Skynx

9. WaveofShadow
      Voted Day 1 - beentheredonethat, ptmc, Lord Tolkien
      Voted Day 2 - Vivax
      Voted Day 3 - Vivax
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx


Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 10:21 GMT
#5173
Forgot this too.

The first parts with the vote counts are with just the survivors. The second bit is the votes by player. They are not really in order of when they were cast. I underlined the vote that the player ended on. If there isn't a line that's underlined it's the last player listed that was on the final vote.

I don't think I'll be around for EoD.

I guess I think town should kill Kurumi, me, Bill then Artanis. Unless Wave is alive for couple more nights. Think about ritoky too. I think he's town, but he's really good at making some insane mafia plays. He could have floated that towntell for someone to find. And defending me and later lynching me isn't really that difficult to pull off.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 03 2016 21:57 GMT
#5225
Last day I didn't do anything and the gods from above hit me for 5. Last night I hit Artanis[Xp] and took 6 damage.

I think Bill saved WoS so they are confirmed, and unless Koshi unnecessarily bussed his entire team for absolutely zero reason he's also town.

So, ##Vote: Ritoky it is.

I'll hit Koroko or Abraxxass whoever you guys decide.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 03 2016 23:30 GMT
#5234
If BM is jailer, then that would make WoS mafia after you lynch me and see my town flip.

If BM can jail again tomorrow night we know it's true.

So Koshi you can't lynch BM I don't think.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 03 2016 23:31 GMT
#5235
And I'm the only non confirmed town here other than BM but he saved a life either passively or offensively.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 03 2016 23:49 GMT
#5236
On November 04 2016 08:17 Koshi wrote:
Meh I can't decide between BM and TS.
My guts tell me BM is mafia.

##vote BM

WoS did you greencheck BM yesterday? Did you hint that?


Would there be any reason mafia didn't shoot last night? And no one is counterclaiming BM's shield claim.

Am I wrong in thinking he saved a life last night? Either protected or prevented WoS from/being shot.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 04 2016 02:08 GMT
#5239
I attacked Artanis. Looks like ritoky did as well since he's above me. I would have done 6 damage which was +1 than his claimed hp.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 04 2016 03:22 GMT
#5250
BM is your shield a jailkeep or just damage soaker?
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