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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 25 2016 15:26 GMT
#3435
On October 26 2016 00:19 Lunaticman wrote:
It's smarter to use Kp to kill lurkers/afks rather than lynches. I don't think there is any protection against lynches in most games. Lynch someone who actually gains information not the other way around. Use KP to kill Vivax that is much smarter.

I also see that the meta of TL hasn't changed:

Amount of posts => Town.

So Koshi just spams about mechanics and suddenly everyone thinks he is town when in fact he should be dead by now.

This is brilliant.


This game also demonstrates how bad it is to have more than 2 scum reads at any given time because there simply isn't enough emotional capital to go after all of them. Especially in a large game like this, just focus on a few people at a time.

I thought I would be dead by now but mafia is keeping me alive, I must be good to have around as everyones 3d scum read.

I think it would be smarter to go after the players who actually voted for a townie in the first lynch.


I hate almost every point you've made here.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 25 2016 22:13 GMT
#3571
I got bloody trucked. Good lord.

##vote: Vivax
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 25 2016 22:33 GMT
#3588
On October 26 2016 07:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 07:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
I got bloody trucked. Good lord.

##vote: Vivax

I don't believe you.

Well, that's not true. I just don't believe scum could have hit you. I got hit for a metric fuckton and btdt died, almost certainly to scum damage.

I wasnt suggesting scum targeted me. potential options are people have me as that unknown scummy guy and targeted me, or else something like Vivax tossed a huge aoe on people around him
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 02:08 GMT
#3640
On October 26 2016 11:05 ritoky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 2


Vivax (10): iamperfection, Acrofales, Dandel Ion, Skynx, ExO_, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray, Skynx, beentheredonethat, sicklucker, Tubesock, GlowingBear
Lunaticman (8): Koshi, ptmc, Koshi, Artanis[xP], Hopeless1der, Kurumi, ritoky, Lord Tolkien, beentheredonethat
Koshi (1): Lunaticman
Tubesock (1): Vivax
iamperfection (0): GlowingBear
HamazuraXTakitsubo (0): beentheredonethat
Lord Tolkien (0): Kurumi
Exo_ (0): Koshi
GlowingBear (0): Artanis[xP]
Skynx (0): Koshi, Hopeless1der, Skynx, Artanis[xP], Tubesock

Not voted (1): HamazuraXTakitsubo,

Well Vivax was about to be owned...but now we have a problem on our hands....

how do your reads translate to this vote count wos?

It literally doesnt matter since scum negated the lynch.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 02:38 GMT
#3652
On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though.

lamp seems like one of those roles that needs town coordination to shine, which we obviously dont have.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 02:38 GMT
#3654
On October 26 2016 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
anyway afk until vivax' flip


This is scummy

the fuck it is, given this town so far
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 02:46 GMT
#3659
On October 26 2016 11:39 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 11:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though.

lamp seems like one of those roles that needs town coordination to shine, which we obviously dont have.

not really just heal me

well yeah but do i save it for night phase tho..
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 02:48 GMT
#3660
On October 26 2016 11:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
##vote: Vivax

My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker.
Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh.

Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far:

Vivax
Glowingbear
Lunatic
Kurumi
Exo
Hamazura (???)
Artanis
sicklucker
Koshi


They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo)

Glowingbear is scum.
I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how.
Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up?
In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult.

There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with.

As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed.

Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.)

I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out.

Random thoughts:
Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly.

I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy.

I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh.
There might be more.


When I flip green you know who to lynch

......................Vivax????
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 03:03 GMT
#3665
On October 26 2016 12:02 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote:
also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though.

So are you voting alongside us/helping us for now so the game continues?
I assume you just leave the game if you just get to where you want?

Is there anything that you're not telling us that can affect us in any particular way? Like can you recruit as some people were suggesting?


i need 1 or 2 mafia to die for enough phases to win i believe. i don't recruit, i don't get more votes, and i believe i disappear upon completing my objective.

i have a move + attack each day phase.

that's pretty much it. so yes i need to town side.

Who wants to CC ritoky? because otherwise I advocate straight up ignoring him until we clear out a couple mafia.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 04:04 GMT
#3675
My thoughts on Koshi:


So i feel the need to say that the fact that Koshi failed to produce a double lynch is not *necessarily* his fault. He proclaimed it to the world and it got struck down.

A) he thought it was nearly foolproof (and is town)
B) he's scum
C) hes 3p (super unlikely, this is only here for the sake of addressing all options...at this point Planar Dragon is a thing)

So, while it'd be great to be able to just lynch him and be done with it, the flavor/end of the day strongly suggests the presence of Balanar (nightstalker). If we are approaching LYLO/MYLO territory, then sure lets get rid of him on the chance the he is in fact responsible for causing the no-lynch. However, I still think Koshi is more likely town than scum and I dont want to remove him, especially since he claims to have taken so much damage and is liable to die to random aoe damage without our intervention anyways, so we dont need to look at him for lynch for a couple days imo..

I'll spend more time worrying about the rest of the game after Vivax dies, but I at least want to say that I think Koshi is town atm. If I die in the meantime, oh welp, I'm not that strong imo, so not a huge deal to me. I've been hitting acro, 'protecting' lamp and annoying dandel so far this game.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 22:37 GMT
#4168
On October 27 2016 07:35 Acrofales wrote:
16 town, 4 scum, 4 "neutral" 3p doesn't sound balanced. If we assume the 3p are at worst a distraction for town, then this means a town:scum ratio of 4:1. This is very town favored, More likely is 15:5 for a 3:1 ratio. Expect a 5man scumteam, and/or some nasty 3p shenannies.

@ptmc: my check is completely useless for helping town or scum. It only informs me about whether the target is my enemy or not.

4:1 is town favored at first glance, but scum have (had?) a no-lynch and everyone is throwing around kp like its killsgiving.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 26 2016 22:46 GMT
#4169
Acro, can you remove you and your enemy like an hour early? Pretty please?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 27 2016 00:26 GMT
#4179
On October 27 2016 08:55 Tubesock wrote:
Anyone have N2's player list? I missed it.

Anyone looked at where the possible places Vivax put his mines? I can soak up some damage and I won't die from it. Soo I should move one or closer to Vivax when he goes boom

....vivax fakeclaimed sillypants
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 27 2016 03:15 GMT
#4188
On October 27 2016 11:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
So paranoia has kicked in.

Acro I'd really appreciate if you could do away with GB with enough time left in the day for us to organize ourselves.
It's not that I don't trust you, but I don't trust you.


Guys, unless Acro does this, I expect you to be stacking KP onto GB. Doesn't seem too unreasonable.

Yeah I requested a 1 hour in advance...i guess we'll see
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 27 2016 03:34 GMT
#4190
On October 27 2016 12:30 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 11:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
So paranoia has kicked in.

Acro I'd really appreciate if you could do away with GB with enough time left in the day for us to organize ourselves.
It's not that I don't trust you, but I don't trust you.


Guys, unless Acro does this, I expect you to be stacking KP onto GB. Doesn't seem too unreasonable.


I'll hit GB

Will you be around in the ~hour leading up to deadline?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 27 2016 17:34 GMT
#4272
On October 28 2016 01:41 Acrofales wrote:
GB, if you have any last words for town, go ahead. I'll shoot you at 7:30pm euro time, so 2:30pm Brasilia.


This gives us a half hour to adjust our panic wagons, right?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 27 2016 17:38 GMT
#4274
On October 28 2016 02:36 Acrofales wrote:
No. It's right now. Good luck town! Scum, you fucking shot me, so go die in a fire!

To be fair, I've also shot you.

y u haf to scumread me?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 27 2016 18:08 GMT
#4285
On October 28 2016 03:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2016 02:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
kk switching to Luna. I'll be here around EoD.
##Unvote
##Vote Lunaticman


Should I switch my attack to Kurumi in case Lunatic gets shafted through this?

IF GB dies in the next little while, sure.

wat? do you read the thread?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 27 2016 22:23 GMT
#4385
On October 28 2016 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
koroko is third party too? nice this should be easy. I think dandel is probably more likely mafia now since your defending him and exo is not ;p

How is it that you know ritoky is 3rd party, but didnt know koroko claimed meepo when its literally the only thing in his filter. smfh.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 27 2016 22:23 GMT
#4389
On October 28 2016 07:21 sicklucker wrote:
I think I have to ask myself if hopeless is really mafia or am I just spitting him

you're angry because i call you out on the stupid things you post.
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