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On October 24 2016 08:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
So in case you're still having problems with comprehension, I have been on board with focusing fire from the start, but what is wrong, is the fact that the fire being redirected does not automatically make the original target scum.
I see it now.
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I guess I just have to figure out if I think it's a simple oversight on his part or he should know better and was setting up a play. Which Sicklucker is famous for.
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I think I like Koshi now. I have to wake up for work in half an hour so I'm not really here.
##Vote: Vivax
##Vote: Skynx
If it ever looks like Vivax starts losing votes I will be back in him. This is purely to help get second wagon.
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On October 24 2016 22:55 iamperfection wrote:
Does anyone remember someone saying the Holyflare kill wasn't surprising. I know someone said it but I can't remember who
I said everyone in the game would probably have killed HF if they were mafia.
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SL and HF attacked WoS. And I think LT did too.
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On October 24 2016 22:58 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 22:57 Tubesock wrote:On October 24 2016 22:55 iamperfection wrote:
Does anyone remember someone saying the Holyflare kill wasn't surprising. I know someone said it but I can't remember who I said everyone in the game would probably have killed HF if they were mafia. Why did you think that?
Cause HF gets NK'd a lot and is scary for mafia. And while we have town leaders, they are not in a circle and HF was the most influential (see lynch).
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On October 24 2016 23:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:On October 24 2016 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Bleh Acro's filter has a shitton of original thought so prob not. Maybe Wave? Hmm. I think Acro/iamp/DI/WoS are fine atm. ritoky/sicklucker are more likely active mafia. Could be that my ritoky townread is off-point. He's a sly bugger but I think it's still likely accurate. SL I mostly townread for having similar thoughts but that's pretty meh. Wish Rso was in the game so I could tell if he's scum or not from whether he reads her posts. Problem is neither of those fit the feeling I'm getting. I guess it could be something like SL/Tubesock and other mid-range posters creating that feeling? Still going through Wave's filter but not really noticing anything that makes me scream scum. He comes off as very nonchalant but it doesn't come off scripted. Blehhhhhhh
I think you're wrong on Ritoky. He seems pretty amicable.
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On October 24 2016 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 23:01 Tubesock wrote:On October 24 2016 23:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On October 24 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:On October 24 2016 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Bleh Acro's filter has a shitton of original thought so prob not. Maybe Wave? Hmm. I think Acro/iamp/DI/WoS are fine atm. ritoky/sicklucker are more likely active mafia. Could be that my ritoky townread is off-point. He's a sly bugger but I think it's still likely accurate. SL I mostly townread for having similar thoughts but that's pretty meh. Wish Rso was in the game so I could tell if he's scum or not from whether he reads her posts. Problem is neither of those fit the feeling I'm getting. I guess it could be something like SL/Tubesock and other mid-range posters creating that feeling? Still going through Wave's filter but not really noticing anything that makes me scream scum. He comes off as very nonchalant but it doesn't come off scripted. Blehhhhhhh I think you're wrong on Ritoky. He seems pretty amicable. Did you see the posts I quoted on him? I disagree strongly.
I did. We will have to agree to disagree.
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I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday.
##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax
##Vote: Skynx
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On October 25 2016 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote:
I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday.
##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax
##Vote: Skynx ?
*Work cancelled so you guys are stuck with me for the next few hours.
I'm voting Vivax. I want the second wagon to be Skynx.
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Give me a bit and I'll elaborate.
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I think Luna is town. I won't vote for him. Looking through his filter, I tried to gather his reads.
Towns:
beentheredonethat
1 of Koshi/Artanis (and only because of dead HF)
I think that's it.
Scums:
HolyFlare
Koshi
(if not Koshi then Artanis[Xp] and 100% sheep of HF)
I don't know Lunaticman. Never played with him. But if he is mafia, is he lunatic enough to tunnel hard on 2 strong willed players? Like right out the gate. He immediately votes Koshi, then still within the first 12 hours or so of the game he starts on HF. And Never leaves either of them the ENTIRE time. He's still on Koshi. Mafia or town, going headstrong on HF kinda means you just may die. Lunaticman attacks and goes after him.
He doesn't veer off from them. WHich i think is towny too. I know when I start thinking strongly that someone is mafia, I get more obstinate. It pretty much dominates my conversation if no one is listening or agreeing. There was shade on HF when he wasn't playing. Then he did and everyone thought he was town (otherwise why follow his TT case?). Lunatic still scum'd him till HF died. He had perfect opportunity to town HF and get off HF's bad side and still look good for going up against him. But town doesn't do that.
I spoiled a few of his posts but not all. The ones I skipped either were repeats of earlier posts (like HF is scum for making him appear bad) etc.
I think his main crime isn't putting in 12 hours a day here and only giving 5 player reads. Maybe a bit defensive but I've seen worse from town.
Lunaticman is town.
+ Show Spoiler [1st post votes Koshi] +On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote:
I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual.
#Vote Koshi
+ Show Spoiler [towns beenthere] +On October 20 2016 21:30 Lunaticman wrote:
The tone of beentheredonethat reads as town to me, putting him in my town circle for now.
+ Show Spoiler [Fear reads HF, next post scums HF] +On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote:
HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you. On October 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play. Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi.
+ Show Spoiler [angst spirit] +On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi. Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that. Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:19 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
Holyflare, you've been in a game scum with Koshi and town with Koshi. Please skim his filter and tell me if you also think he's scum. I already mentioned he could be mafia, yes. I'd like you to talk about other people though. Covering for your scum buddy I see.
+ Show Spoiler [defensive] +On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. So omgus? haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc.
+ Show Spoiler [More HF Scum] +On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote:
Scummy:
Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it)
Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing)
ExO_ (why)
Kurumi
Vivax
Koshi
GlowingBear
WaveofShadow
Null:
Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems)
Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon)
Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy)
Hamazura (need more)
Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says)
ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy)
Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave)
Tubesock (zzzz?) HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not. On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote:
I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.
You're all talk and no substance. Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose.
+ Show Spoiler [Koshi/Art 1 is mafia] +On October 24 2016 00:10 Lunaticman wrote:
There is one scum between Koshi/Artanis we have to put trust in HF:s read. I'm sorry I ever doubted you HF! <3
On October 24 2016 23:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Also either of Art and Koshi are mafia so you remember when I die.
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So what's Lunatic's crimes this game? He lurked, and only has like 5 reads. He's consistent and fearless.
Skynx....he lurks, fucked off when he's off the wagon ala Vivax style, martyr's and appeals to your emotional side so he can live. He made promises and hasn't done shit. I'm his biggest scumread (and Hopeless1) and we have seen absolutely 0. Because there isn't shit to case since he knows we are town.
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On October 25 2016 03:50 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2016 03:23 Tubesock wrote:On October 25 2016 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:On October 25 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote:
I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday.
##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax
##Vote: Skynx ? *Work cancelled so you guys are stuck with me for the next few hours. I'm voting Vivax. I want the second wagon to be Skynx. Skynx's reactions yesterday were pretty solid townie. I will go back and filter him again, seeing as I didn't get very far with Luna. Your question whether he would tunnel two dangerous townies right off the bat is a pretty good point. Usually scummers are careful not to pick fights with strong players (unless they are both scum and stage their fight, which is damned hard to do). On the other hand I don't feel he was picking a fight with HF. He was definitely tunneled on Koshi. But his whole mindset around HF is just... weird.
And it's not even really that he wouldn't pick a fight on HF. It's that mafia might do that, BUT they certainly would try to get out of it later when they had good opportunity (when thread sentiment backed off HF)
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On October 25 2016 03:51 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2016 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
So what's Lunatic's crimes this game? He lurked, and only has like 5 reads. He's consistent and fearless.
Skynx....he lurks, fucked off when he's off the wagon ala Vivax style, martyr's and appeals to your emotional side so he can live. He made promises and hasn't done shit. I'm his biggest scumread (and Hopeless1) and we have seen absolutely 0. Because there isn't shit to case since he knows we are town. Having H1 as a scum read is a pretty solid one imho, and other than your stream-of-consciousness at night, it's hard to see you as townie too.
That's fine. But he promised to case us. We're both probably easy to get lynched. (Less Hopeless I think). But the only people think I'm town is Bill Murray. Not exactly a great knight in shining armor. He hasn't cased me because he's waiting on someone else to break the ice then pile on. Blending and shit.
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On October 25 2016 03:57 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2016 03:39 Tubesock wrote:I think Luna is town. I won't vote for him. Looking through his filter, I tried to gather his reads. Towns: beentheredonethat 1 of Koshi/Artanis (and only because of dead HF) I think that's it. Scums: HolyFlareKoshi (if not Koshi then Artanis[Xp] and 100% sheep of HF) I don't know Lunaticman. Never played with him. But if he is mafia, is he lunatic enough to tunnel hard on 2 strong willed players? Like right out the gate. He immediately votes Koshi, then still within the first 12 hours or so of the game he starts on HF. And Never leaves either of them the ENTIRE time. He's still on Koshi. Mafia or town, going headstrong on HF kinda means you just may die. Lunaticman attacks and goes after him. He doesn't veer off from them. WHich i think is towny too. I know when I start thinking strongly that someone is mafia, I get more obstinate. It pretty much dominates my conversation if no one is listening or agreeing. There was shade on HF when he wasn't playing. Then he did and everyone thought he was town (otherwise why follow his TT case?). Lunatic still scum'd him till HF died. He had perfect opportunity to town HF and get off HF's bad side and still look good for going up against him. But town doesn't do that. I spoiled a few of his posts but not all. The ones I skipped either were repeats of earlier posts (like HF is scum for making him appear bad) etc. I think his main crime isn't putting in 12 hours a day here and only giving 5 player reads. Maybe a bit defensive but I've seen worse from town. Lunaticman is town.+ Show Spoiler [1st post votes Koshi] +On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote:
I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual.
#Vote Koshi On October 20 2016 21:30 Lunaticman wrote:
The tone of beentheredonethat reads as town to me, putting him in my town circle for now. On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote:
HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you. On October 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play. Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi. On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi. Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that. Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:19 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
Holyflare, you've been in a game scum with Koshi and town with Koshi. Please skim his filter and tell me if you also think he's scum. I already mentioned he could be mafia, yes. I'd like you to talk about other people though. Covering for your scum buddy I see. On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. So omgus? haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc. On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote:
Scummy:
Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it)
Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing)
ExO_ (why)
Kurumi
Vivax
Koshi
GlowingBear
WaveofShadow
Null:
Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems)
Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon)
Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy)
Hamazura (need more)
Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says)
ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy)
Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave)
Tubesock (zzzz?) HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not. On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote:
I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.
You're all talk and no substance. Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose. On October 24 2016 00:10 Lunaticman wrote:
There is one scum between Koshi/Artanis we have to put trust in HF:s read. I'm sorry I ever doubted you HF! <3
On October 24 2016 23:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Also either of Art and Koshi are mafia so you remember when I die.
so you like that he only has a few reads, hardtunnels on those and doesnt even look at anybody else? ok it's almost funny how opposing my opinion is on all of this changing your mind is largely a town tell, scum are often too shot in on little details and 'gottem' things that give them an excuse to scumread townies. figuring out whether you are right is a town thing to do, and sometimes you may notice you are not. scum rarely bother and only change reads if they feel they HAVE to. well bad scum at least and im guessing thats applicable here. target selection is a whole different matter entirely personally i (and my scumgame sucks dickballs ask anybody) did exactly that for this very reason before. "why pick a fight with town leader X?" 1) because it actually throws off that person's read 2) because exactly that question 3) because going against thread sentiment is somehow seen as more 'valuable' than following it it also shits up the thread and can tilt people beyond all rational thought. when i do it at least. i have no idea if lunatic would do that, and/or for those reasons. dont know the guy. but its very far from a town tell. regardless of anything, excusing your reads with "a dead townie said so" and nothing else makes me grab the rope. but that might just be me too.
I have seen plenty (and done it myself) where town went obstinate and stubborn.
I've seen several mafia pick fights to pick fights and shit the thread. But what happens so often is they find a reason to town the person and get back on their good side. I think Luna had a good opportunity to change his read on HF to make it look like he was town for sticking up and reevaluating. I just don't think mafia would risk having someone like HF lynch you before you can NK him.
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On October 25 2016 04:03 Dandel Ion wrote:and the fear read -> scum read on HF looks so much like a scum leaving his options open from the get-go and then taking that backdoor that, well, that might be what it is. saw opportunity to omgus, overreacted to a relatively neutral comment, never revisits the original part at all: NOPE GOTTA FITE
That's possible I just think mafiaLuna would have taken the opportunity to reverse his scum on HF and live. Especially if he doesn't have a lot of time to play and/or is having trouble posting.
I do agree with you shouldn't blindly and completely take a dead townies word.
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On October 25 2016 04:05 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2016 04:04 Tubesock wrote:On October 25 2016 03:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 25 2016 03:39 Tubesock wrote:I think Luna is town. I won't vote for him. Looking through his filter, I tried to gather his reads. Towns: beentheredonethat 1 of Koshi/Artanis (and only because of dead HF) I think that's it. Scums: HolyFlareKoshi (if not Koshi then Artanis[Xp] and 100% sheep of HF) I don't know Lunaticman. Never played with him. But if he is mafia, is he lunatic enough to tunnel hard on 2 strong willed players? Like right out the gate. He immediately votes Koshi, then still within the first 12 hours or so of the game he starts on HF. And Never leaves either of them the ENTIRE time. He's still on Koshi. Mafia or town, going headstrong on HF kinda means you just may die. Lunaticman attacks and goes after him. He doesn't veer off from them. WHich i think is towny too. I know when I start thinking strongly that someone is mafia, I get more obstinate. It pretty much dominates my conversation if no one is listening or agreeing. There was shade on HF when he wasn't playing. Then he did and everyone thought he was town (otherwise why follow his TT case?). Lunatic still scum'd him till HF died. He had perfect opportunity to town HF and get off HF's bad side and still look good for going up against him. But town doesn't do that. I spoiled a few of his posts but not all. The ones I skipped either were repeats of earlier posts (like HF is scum for making him appear bad) etc. I think his main crime isn't putting in 12 hours a day here and only giving 5 player reads. Maybe a bit defensive but I've seen worse from town. Lunaticman is town.+ Show Spoiler [1st post votes Koshi] +On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote:
I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual.
#Vote Koshi On October 20 2016 21:30 Lunaticman wrote:
The tone of beentheredonethat reads as town to me, putting him in my town circle for now. On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote:
HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you. On October 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play. Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi. On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi. Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that. Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:19 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
Holyflare, you've been in a game scum with Koshi and town with Koshi. Please skim his filter and tell me if you also think he's scum. I already mentioned he could be mafia, yes. I'd like you to talk about other people though. Covering for your scum buddy I see. On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna
hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? I didn't buss anyone. What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF? I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. So omgus? haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc. On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote:
Scummy:
Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it)
Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing)
ExO_ (why)
Kurumi
Vivax
Koshi
GlowingBear
WaveofShadow
Null:
Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems)
Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon)
Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy)
Hamazura (need more)
Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says)
ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy)
Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave)
Tubesock (zzzz?) HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not. On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote:
I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.
You're all talk and no substance. Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose. On October 24 2016 00:10 Lunaticman wrote:
There is one scum between Koshi/Artanis we have to put trust in HF:s read. I'm sorry I ever doubted you HF! <3
On October 24 2016 23:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Also either of Art and Koshi are mafia so you remember when I die.
so you like that he only has a few reads, hardtunnels on those and doesnt even look at anybody else? ok it's almost funny how opposing my opinion is on all of this changing your mind is largely a town tell, scum are often too shot in on little details and 'gottem' things that give them an excuse to scumread townies. figuring out whether you are right is a town thing to do, and sometimes you may notice you are not. scum rarely bother and only change reads if they feel they HAVE to. well bad scum at least and im guessing thats applicable here. target selection is a whole different matter entirely personally i (and my scumgame sucks dickballs ask anybody) did exactly that for this very reason before. "why pick a fight with town leader X?" 1) because it actually throws off that person's read 2) because exactly that question 3) because going against thread sentiment is somehow seen as more 'valuable' than following it it also shits up the thread and can tilt people beyond all rational thought. when i do it at least. i have no idea if lunatic would do that, and/or for those reasons. dont know the guy. but its very far from a town tell. regardless of anything, excusing your reads with "a dead townie said so" and nothing else makes me grab the rope. but that might just be me too. I have seen plenty (and done it myself) where town went obstinate and stubborn. I've seen several mafia pick fights to pick fights and shit the thread. But what happens so often is they find a reason to town the person and get back on their good side. I think Luna had a good opportunity to change his read on HF to make it look like he was town for sticking up and reevaluating. I just don't think mafia would risk having someone like HF lynch you before you can NK him. but if he's scum he knows they're gonna NK HF? so he knows he doesnt need to stop?
I think that's a pretty dangerous bet isn't it? Game this large probably has protection, and also themed. Plus there's risk of getting lynched too.
Anyway, that's what I think. I think he's flipping town.
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On October 25 2016 04:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Except that not liking tea makes me a monster. Tea just really isn't that good.
tea is mostly gross.
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