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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:04 GMT
#1838
...And I've just confused the shit out of myself...HF+ritoky+Gb interactions means I take a break.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:05 GMT
#1839
On October 22 2016 11:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 10:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I get it, the ninja.
Yes.
Well.

Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any)

Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff?
Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why?

We should sift through that.

My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff.

Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example.

And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around?

Gonna read Acro.

@the italicized, thats mafia playground...I'm not wasting my time trying to wade through the WIFOM there.

Shooting the likes of GB over acro has its merits though. I need to not tunnel people who think I scum since it happens so often.

I mean I disagree it's all WIFOM, that's pretty dismissive. At an EoD where it looks like the votes could end up anywhere, it's in mafia's best interests to only allow a requisite number of votes to end up on town, one way to do so is spreading out.


Iamp, thoughts on the lynch? Thoughts going forward?

Votes were spread out all day and stayed that way for an extended period of time. I'm not inclined to run timelines for each player, but as a general feel I do not think the EoD analysis is of particular use without 2 more days worth of flips.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:34 GMT
#1844
On October 22 2016 11:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
WELP
TURNS OUT I ACTUALLY DID TAKE DAMAGE

I guess people are real afraid of me because I took 16.

Don't worry though, I'll be ok.

At what time did you receive your notification that your HP was reduced?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:35 GMT
#1848
On October 22 2016 11:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'll tell you if I'm allowed to. I get the feeling I won't be, but maybe you can figure it out.

By all means, ask, then answer if you can.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:36 GMT
#1849
On October 22 2016 11:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I've read a game where wave said "Welp" and he was msfia

oshit
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:43 GMT
#1852
On October 05 2016 09:20 AFK Jungle wrote:

Rules:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players unless cleared by the host in advance. Otherwise, only you may post on your account.
11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role OR alignment PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your PMs to prove your alignment or role. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your PM.
12. Posting a false role PM phrased as if you received it from the host. You can still fake roleclaim, but you cannot make it look like you are posting a PM you received from the host.
13. Encryption of any type.
Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.



Where did I cheat?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:49 GMT
#1853
WoS, I'm not asking for you to give us the post itself, I'm asking the timestamp associated with the post/message that told you that you did take damage/ your KP was reduced. Surely you understand why I might give a shit about that, considering I'm keeping a record of claimed KP/HP/actions and you made a point of telling me you were "pristine".
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:50 GMT
#1854
EBWOP: "KP was reduced HP was reduced"
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:54 GMT
#1856
On October 22 2016 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 11:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
WoS, I'm not asking for you to give us the post itself, I'm asking the timestamp associated with the post/message that told you that you did take damage/ your KP was reduced. Surely you understand why I might give a shit about that, considering I'm keeping a record of claimed KP/HP/actions and you made a point of telling me you were "pristine".

And like I said, I'll tell you if I can, but I can also understand as a one-time host of this kind of a clusterfuck of a game why freely offering this information might not be a nice thing to do to those hosts. Like I said, you can probably figure it out for yourself if I can't say anything.

You also might want to consider what possible reasoning I could have for randomly changing my mind about the damage I took. I'm not going to discuss this any further as I don't want it to become a thing.

Have you requested guidance from the host account?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 02:59 GMT
#1858
On October 22 2016 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Enough, hopeless. Let's move on.

I asked you a "yes" or "no" question.

Answer it please.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 03:00 GMT
#1859
I didnt ask if you got an answer, I asked did you request guidance. Massive difference and the dodging is ridiculous.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 03:02 GMT
#1860
Like you're allowed to lie in this game, its almost a prerequisite of being mafia. The fact that you are telling me to avoid this line of questioning is really suspicious.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 03:12 GMT
#1864
On October 22 2016 12:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hopeless.
I have been a host, and having your game and hard work ruined because of mod confirms and shit like that SUCKS.
I don't want to do it to Onegu and co.
If you promise me to drop this shit I will answer you and only then.

Look, I asked because I 100% believed this game would accomodate mid-phase abilities. There was already proof of host error re: my being listed twice in the lynch list. I now have damn near confirmation that there is no ability to affect the game outside of the resolution periods. Thats shitty for the hosts, but too goddamn bad, they shouldn't have said anything and stuck to their guns.

It's incredibly easy for the hosts to say "whoops we fucked up" in a closed setup. But they didnt do that. I dont mean to be a dick to the hosts, I fully appreciate what you're doing to host this game for us...but the handling of my line of questioning is really subpar imo. It confirms that WoS either lied, or that the hosts fucked up. And I have no way to prove one way or the other, even if WoS is scum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 03:14 GMT
#1865
And that's the last I'll talk about the hosts/mod interaction. I needed to finish that line of thought. I apologize if that crossed any line. Please make an effort to follow that example.

WoS got his notification at an appropriate time and just didnt see it until later.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 03:36 GMT
#1872
I'd like to believe I spent a moderate amount of time talking to WoS after everyone else fucked off, such that LT's line of questioning feels like complete and utter bullshit. Yes/No?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 03:38 GMT
#1873
BM, how much dmg did you take tho?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 04:01 GMT
#1875
On October 22 2016 12:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 12:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'd like to believe I spent a moderate amount of time talking to WoS after everyone else fucked off, such that LT's line of questioning feels like complete and utter bullshit. Yes/No?

What line of questioning?
He didn't like that I want to shoot/lynch him last phase, and that's literally the only reason why he's on the attack against me, and literally the only thing he's done all game.

Yeah, you're exempt from this situation considering you're the subject of it and all..
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 12:45 GMT
#1967
On October 22 2016 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Pro tip to my fellow townies:
Dont base all your theories about me being mafia in your grand scheme of things. You are going to be sad and lost.

I'm literally doing the opposite and I'm still sad and lost. #feelsbadman
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 12:59 GMT
#1969
I'm radiant for anyone that cares
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2016 14:39 GMT
#2012
On October 22 2016 23:19 Holyflare wrote:
Maybe huskar but he can heal himself so probably not and nvm about doom he doesn't hurt himself

Centaur maybe too potentially morphling

centaur (double edge) makes the most sense imo for a day 1 self abuse role power. huskar maybe, but tossing arrows early seems like a bad play in general the way the scaling works, since he in general dies more than his dps. Makes me think that shooting lamp is going to result in Return wrecking your face. So...maybe dont shoot lamp in the face
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