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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 06:04 GMT
#1886
I didn't take any damage. My attack unless modified somehow was 6 on Lord Tolkien.

Anyone around?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 15:04 GMT
#2016
Lord Tolkien, how do you know did 10 damage to WoS?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 15:06 GMT
#2017
I don't buy the LT and SL are town because of targeting WoS one bit.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 15:12 GMT
#2021
On October 23 2016 00:08 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 23:54 iamperfection wrote:
Yes let's all speculate on what my role does that seems useful


You expected to do more damage to GB, did less and made no mention of it in the thread.


Did you attack someone? If so, how much did you do?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 15:24 GMT
#2024
On October 23 2016 00:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 00:06 Tubesock wrote:
I don't buy the LT and SL are town because of targeting WoS one bit.


I absolutely do and think wave's reaction to it here:

Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 22:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 22 2016 17:32 Holyflare wrote:
On October 22 2016 17:21 Holyflare wrote:
On October 22 2016 09:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 09:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Lunatic is also rreaaaaaaalllllyyyyyy meh.

On one hand he's calling holyflare mafia with no explanation other than opportunism but then we have luna/hf both pushing each other. same time though, lunaticman points out this discrepancy though....

On October 21 2016 05:05 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:57 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

So omgus?


haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc.


Do you have any opinions on HF's read on me?


I think it is very shallow as expected day one. It felt like he just wanted to assign blame to someone. Throwing the first rock if you will.

I like your idea of building a town circle, that is always the most important thing the first two days.

I'm also sad to see you say you will never play again maybe your just not in the mood.

Also I'm off to bed nn.


On October 21 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 22:39 Koshi wrote:
Hopeless1der and Lunatic are my preferred lynches for today. Going to vote with Acrofoles because I like his case.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der


p60 atm


HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you.

You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons.

It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia.


and that double standard gives me pause, atm stuck on whether he's trying to skate by or whether he's someone who speaks in simpler sentences (if that makes any sense, basically someone who makes instinct reads...) but will need to revisit him after flips or more content.


I currently have some huge associative WIFOM between koshi, HF and Lunaticman. My read of koshi is town, and it really makes me hate HF and Lunatic. The fact that HF and Luna are weakly pushing each other gives me weak bus vibes, but again this is very associative. I will note that they've said the other is scummy but never voted to match.


So if I have a choice between a town koshi or a town ticktock I go after the scrub one??? I could have easily lynched koshi but I'm waiting to see if he does something, anything in fact while i had an actual case on TT. He also claimed a town ability too. Koshi regularly gets nk on night 1 and 2 as town because he's a big threat and plays well but for some reason I'd just let him stay alive?

Wave is definitely mafia btw.

I lost 0 hp.


Ok wave might not definitely be mafia but lt/sl are practically confirmed town in my eyes now. I don't believe mafia start laying their kp on wave when they can attack better targets.

Oh actually this is a good point.
Ugh.
Stop making good points.


Is pretty bad because in my/lt/sl's world this only makes sense because we believe wave is mafia

In wave's world (if he's town) then it's his scum read lt getting rid of town wave and sl stacking with me too

But he said it's a good point which is kinda scummy response because it's only a good point if wave is mafia


I don't totally agree with that. I think that it really depends on if WoS thinks he's a town leader and that there are better targets that mafia would go after and "order" LT or SL or you to hit.

I wouldn't necessarily think that anyone attacking me would be mafia and I know I'm town.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 15:28 GMT
#2026
I also think WoS is one of our town leaders so that changes how I look at your three's attack. The reasonings all have basically been "toxicity" and OMGUS. Although I haven't gotten to HF's filter to see his exact reason to target WoS yet.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 16:31 GMT
#2049
On October 23 2016 01:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
There definitely something fishy going on with the targets on me but of the three the only one I do think for sure is town is LT.

This fits with how hes played in past games with me. Just wish he'd be more useful

SL or HF could be faking damage or one of them could have been RBed (HF most likely).


Can you explain this please? (Just the LT part)
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 17:14 GMT
#2055
On October 23 2016 02:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also, Koshi should definitely be the lynch, even over Vivax. He was the "counter" wagon. HF, to clarify a bit more (if you still scumread me), town was pretty much afk EoD1, so there was no point in pursueing Koshi. My shennanies weren't executed due to this, too, so it was the best thing to consolidate on Tictock in case he was scum.


I'm confused. So, you thought town was afk, so instead of going for Koshi, who've you were after, you decide to go after hazmatubo which no one was on. And would have required A LOT more people to be around to execute?

I think you were trying to deflect and make some chaos.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 17:21 GMT
#2062
On October 23 2016 02:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 02:14 Tubesock wrote:
On October 23 2016 02:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also, Koshi should definitely be the lynch, even over Vivax. He was the "counter" wagon. HF, to clarify a bit more (if you still scumread me), town was pretty much afk EoD1, so there was no point in pursueing Koshi. My shennanies weren't executed due to this, too, so it was the best thing to consolidate on Tictock in case he was scum.


I'm confused. So, you thought town was afk, so instead of going for Koshi, who've you were after, you decide to go after hazmatubo which no one was on. And would have required A LOT more people to be around to execute?

I think you were trying to deflect and make some chaos.

Except you have the order wrong. I pushed for shennanies, saw it didn't work out, then I chose to consolidate instead of voting for Koshi.

Also, why should I stir up chaos as scum given that the Tictock wagon was not going to be derailed?


Huh? how do I have the order wrong? Youve been after Koshi for quite some time. You then call for shenannies on Taco Bell instead of Koshi and end up on TicTock...

Wait, are you saying that your shenannies failed because town was AFK and not because town just didn't agree that Taco Bell would have been better?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 17:22 GMT
#2063
On October 23 2016 02:16 Skynx wrote:
@Tubesock, iamp, HF. I'm also sick of your antics calling me useless with shit list but then feel not sure about my alginment. Man the fuck up vote me and see if you can convince other 20 people playing the game that I'm scum based on whatever reasons you have, if you have any if that is.


LOL's you're cute
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 17:24 GMT
#2065
On October 23 2016 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Ok, been going over the damage and the claims. Biggest discrepancies so far:

Sicklucker claims he can RB AND do a basic attack. I was told I have one action per phase, and basic attacks are actions, so I call bullshit.

WoS didn't take enough damage. Claims 16 dmg. HF claims he hit for 5, LT claims 10, sicklucker claims unknown amount.

ExO_ claims he hit Koshi, but he cannot have moved to Koshi. In fact, he cannot have moved anywhere except to me.

Acro took too much damage. I took 7 dmg. Nobody claims an attack.

Koshi didn't take enough damage. Claims 12 dmg. btdt claims he did 8. ExO_ claims unknown amount (4?).

GB didn't take enough damage. Claims 6 dmg. Iamperfection claims > 6. Koshi claims 7. ritoky claims he tried, but was roleblocked.

ptmc claims he hit BM. He cannot have moved to BM, and can only have hit Hamazooka (host error is possible, because if ptmc moved to where BM was BEFORE his move, then it all works)

Questions:
@ExO_: how much do you hit for? Someone could have redirected you to me. Not sure why, but we'll figure that out later.
@ptmc: can you ask the hosts if they processed your move correctly?


Will work on reads post and it will be up before just before resolution. I am around for chats.

If you are looking for a target to shoot at tonight, I highly recommend, in order of importance:

Vivax. Kill with fire
Koshi. Disruptive scummy dirtbag.
Skynx. 100% trash filter, and seriously flying under the radar.
H1der. Scum until I say otherwise.
LT. Lurker.
GB. Lurker.
HF. Haven't figured out the TT train yet, and while the case seems sincere (if just plain wrong), there is something off about him.
Artanis. Lurker.

That should do it for now.


Am I the only person who wasn't notified at all about what damage I did?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 17:36 GMT
#2070
On October 23 2016 02:28 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 02:24 Tubesock wrote:
On October 23 2016 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Ok, been going over the damage and the claims. Biggest discrepancies so far:

Sicklucker claims he can RB AND do a basic attack. I was told I have one action per phase, and basic attacks are actions, so I call bullshit.

WoS didn't take enough damage. Claims 16 dmg. HF claims he hit for 5, LT claims 10, sicklucker claims unknown amount.

ExO_ claims he hit Koshi, but he cannot have moved to Koshi. In fact, he cannot have moved anywhere except to me.

Acro took too much damage. I took 7 dmg. Nobody claims an attack.

Koshi didn't take enough damage. Claims 12 dmg. btdt claims he did 8. ExO_ claims unknown amount (4?).

GB didn't take enough damage. Claims 6 dmg. Iamperfection claims > 6. Koshi claims 7. ritoky claims he tried, but was roleblocked.

ptmc claims he hit BM. He cannot have moved to BM, and can only have hit Hamazooka (host error is possible, because if ptmc moved to where BM was BEFORE his move, then it all works)

Questions:
@ExO_: how much do you hit for? Someone could have redirected you to me. Not sure why, but we'll figure that out later.
@ptmc: can you ask the hosts if they processed your move correctly?


Will work on reads post and it will be up before just before resolution. I am around for chats.

If you are looking for a target to shoot at tonight, I highly recommend, in order of importance:

Vivax. Kill with fire
Koshi. Disruptive scummy dirtbag.
Skynx. 100% trash filter, and seriously flying under the radar.
H1der. Scum until I say otherwise.
LT. Lurker.
GB. Lurker.
HF. Haven't figured out the TT train yet, and while the case seems sincere (if just plain wrong), there is something off about him.
Artanis. Lurker.

That should do it for now.


Am I the only person who wasn't notified at all about what damage I did?

I don't think anybody got notified about how much damage they did. But your role pm says how much damage you *should* do, if all goes according to plan...


OK. That's how I approached it when I reported in.

SL reported that he enhances others damage. I dont recall him saying he roleblocked Ritoky just that Ritoky was probably.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 17:48 GMT
#2083
On October 23 2016 02:35 Skynx wrote:
Nice twitch chat guys, sadly no one gives a fuck


Yeeeaaahhh.

Ok, so in your list post you have HF as town because of aggro and calling shots. Then said something about it being a meta read. Can you clarify? Specifically what's his meta? Does he not call shots and be aggressive as mafia?

So since you forgot Bill Murray and I in your list post, you didn't really think we were that scummy then?

And you're really annoyed at Ritoky for asking you twice to answer a question about LT's entrance?

Are you just that easily annoyable?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 17:51 GMT
#2086
On October 23 2016 02:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, I remember a guy that said I was playing like my most recent town meta, which made him think I was town. I don't remember if it was Tubesock or Tictock. At first it seemed genuine but now I think it reeks TMI. If it was TT then it was genuine LOL.


Was TicTock. We haven't played together in years I think.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 17:56 GMT
#2091
On October 23 2016 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
Artanis is without a doubt mafia by the way.


His lack of filter?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 18:09 GMT
#2103
On October 23 2016 02:57 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote:
On October 23 2016 02:35 Skynx wrote:
Nice twitch chat guys, sadly no one gives a fuck


Yeeeaaahhh.

Ok, so in your list post you have HF as town because of aggro and calling shots. Then said something about it being a meta read. Can you clarify? Specifically what's his meta? Does he not call shots and be aggressive as mafia?

So since you forgot Bill Murray and I in your list post, you didn't really think we were that scummy then?

And you're really annoyed at Ritoky for asking you twice to answer a question about LT's entrance?

Are you just that easily annoyable?

1) Yes, HF does establish himself as a fuhrer early on, pushing literally everyone for minimal reasons. He than tunnels some random person for whatever reason + town ends up following him for whatever reason and that person flips town. I'll actually bet some billion esports dollars that HF is town here cuz of meta.

2) Yes and no. I had small reasons to not like you early on in the D1, this wasn't a hard sr commital and I was trying to see if anyone wants to jump on it or question me for those reads. They were kinda bad and I forgot about them now cuz you guys are flying under the radar and other Reds in my list are more out there in the game as being bad. I need to re-read you guys when i got some time.

3) Yeah and no, I don't get annoyed I just ignore/mute people that annoy me. Ritoky in this case also happened to play bad earlier on so now i can sr him happy days.


1) Guess I just disagree that that's his meta. I think he does that as mafia also...

2) ok. So I missed it, can you refresh me who were bigger Reds in your mind?

3) Your hypocrisy is delicious. Scumming LT for muting players he doesn't know is no different than ones that annoy you.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 18:23 GMT
#2117
On October 23 2016 03:15 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 03:04 Holyflare wrote:
I also don't see how acro hasn't acknowledged the SL point about him attacking wave and also that Hopeless is essentially mod confirmed for trying to abuse the game.

What point about SL attacking wave? It's literally the first point I have. He claims he roleblocked AND hit WoS. Makes no sense.

And no, H1der isn't modconfirmed for trying to figure out what happened with actions. Scum wants to figure that shit out too. He spent most of the night pissing around on mechanics and OMGUSing me.


On October 22 2016 07:15 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 07:14 ritoky wrote:
someone copy/paste the list plz and compare it with the previous one. i am not next to who i moved and attacked at all.


get roleblocked nerd


On October 22 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 07:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 22 2016 07:34 ritoky wrote:
I might have been roleblocked or something. I tried to move down to attack GB, but instead I went up 3 spots.

well sicklucker claimed to have rb'd you

so that seems like a likely conclusion


nope.... its just obvious he was if his said ability did not work


He didn't really say he RB'd Ritoky. He did later say he attacked WoS.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 23:36 GMT
#2336
I took 5 dmg. I attacked Koshi.

Voting Vivax, but I'd love the second wagon to be Skynx.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 22 2016 23:51 GMT
#2345
Actually, the best thing about this "double" lynch is that this phase won't be a snoozefest since we will be talking about who is the secondary lynch. If we just play with a single lynch in mind, it won't be as active since no one opposes the Vivax lynch.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
October 23 2016 15:53 GMT
#2524
On October 24 2016 00:48 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 00:47 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:45 iamperfection wrote:
someone discuss my point on skynx that i cant wrap my head around it.


Why would he claim his attack on me?

I haven't followed that discussion.

he said he attacked me. i didn't comment at all on taking damage yet he claims an attack why would he do that as scum?


It is an interesting question. But looking at his movement he may not have been able to hide it. Better to say he did than have someone else bring it up.

What I don't get is he was the spot above you, then moved below you to hit? I don't understand that part. Looks like you would have hit HF or he went for Beentheredonethat.
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