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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 31 2016 10:48 GMT
#5001
did anyone even claim the exo kill or are we to just assume its one of art or ritoky all the time with a chance of iamp
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 31 2016 10:49 GMT
#5002
fuck it i dont even care about third party mechanics yet kill more mafia
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 31 2016 10:52 GMT
#5003
On October 31 2016 19:42 Koshi wrote:
Well. I think the chance on an SK are high and we need to get rid of him. Maybe DI is SK?

I dunno, DI hasn't really felt scummy to me. He hates playing as mafia and with the team we know so far that seems unlikely. Most likely the last people that need offing are in kurumi/tube.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 10:55 GMT
#5004
1 Artanis[Xp]
2 Koshi
3 Tubesock
4 iamperfection
5 Dandel Ion
7 Kurumi
8 ritoky
9 Bill Murray
10 sicklucker
12 WaveofShadow

10 players.

7 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
5 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after day and we lynch mafia
4 town
1 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
2 town
1 mafia
1 sk

or if we can protect ourselves
3 town
1 mafia
1 sk

then after night
2 town
1 sk or mafia
2 vs 1 lylo


So town needs to and protect themselves and lynch antitown 4/5 lynches. Seems balanced.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 31 2016 10:55 GMT
#5005
Then again it is possible he was motivated until he realized how bad his teammates were playing later on since he has dropped off. Mm.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 31 2016 10:57 GMT
#5006
On October 31 2016 19:55 Koshi wrote:
1 Artanis[Xp]
2 Koshi
3 Tubesock
4 iamperfection
5 Dandel Ion
7 Kurumi
8 ritoky
9 Bill Murray
10 sicklucker
12 WaveofShadow

10 players.

7 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
5 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after day and we lynch mafia
4 town
1 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
2 town
1 mafia
1 sk

or if we can protect ourselves
3 town
1 mafia
1 sk

then after night
2 town
1 sk or mafia
2 vs 1 lylo


So town needs to and protect themselves and lynch antitown 4/5 lynches. Seems balanced.

Given these stats and the nightstalker thing I doubt there's more than 2 antitown left.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 10:59 GMT
#5007
If mafia has any honour in their body they shoot 2 within ritoky/Artanis/DI. Probably the 2 that aren't mafia. If they fail to kill the SK, we will spend 100% of tomorrow lynching the SK.

If mafia shoots within Koshi/WoS/Sicklucker we lynch mafia.


Sweet deal if you ask me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 11:00 GMT
#5008
On October 31 2016 19:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 19:55 Koshi wrote:
1 Artanis[Xp]
2 Koshi
3 Tubesock
4 iamperfection
5 Dandel Ion
7 Kurumi
8 ritoky
9 Bill Murray
10 sicklucker
12 WaveofShadow

10 players.

7 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
5 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after day and we lynch mafia
4 town
1 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
2 town
1 mafia
1 sk

or if we can protect ourselves
3 town
1 mafia
1 sk

then after night
2 town
1 sk or mafia
2 vs 1 lylo


So town needs to and protect themselves and lynch antitown 4/5 lynches. Seems balanced.

Given these stats and the nightstalker thing I doubt there's more than 2 antitown left.

6 vs 18 is pretty balanced if within the 6 they can shoot themselves.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 11:01 GMT
#5009
Town probably also had a shitton of checks and dps. But we didn't use it. Like lina and BM.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 11:02 GMT
#5010
This game actually looks pretty balanced. Just the cancer no lynch ultimate should have been something else. Like a vote rigger.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 31 2016 11:07 GMT
#5011
On October 31 2016 19:59 Koshi wrote:
If mafia has any honour in their body they shoot 2 within ritoky/Artanis/DI. Probably the 2 that aren't mafia. If they fail to kill the SK, we will spend 100% of tomorrow lynching the SK.

If mafia shoots within Koshi/WoS/Sicklucker we lynch mafia.


Sweet deal if you ask me.

I am very curious how you plan on distinguishing between scum and an sk that may or may not even be in the game.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 11:11 GMT
#5012
On October 31 2016 20:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 19:59 Koshi wrote:
If mafia has any honour in their body they shoot 2 within ritoky/Artanis/DI. Probably the 2 that aren't mafia. If they fail to kill the SK, we will spend 100% of tomorrow lynching the SK.

If mafia shoots within Koshi/WoS/Sicklucker we lynch mafia.


Sweet deal if you ask me.

I am very curious how you plan on distinguishing between scum and an sk that may or may not even be in the game.

Reading filters / play game. Fact is, we know who is more likely sk and who is more likely mafia, we will go for more likely sk.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 11:11 GMT
#5013
Don't second guess this fair and legit way to end the game with a 2 vs 1 lylo.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 31 2016 11:16 GMT
#5014
Of course I will, it's against my best interests as you people seem to think I can be an sk. It doesn't make any sense to avoid people who are likely mafia on an sk witch hunt when my role already included killing some players that for all I know could be town.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 11:34 GMT
#5015
On October 31 2016 20:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Of course I will, it's against my best interests as you people seem to think I can be an sk. It doesn't make any sense to avoid people who are likely mafia on an sk witch hunt when my role already included killing some players that for all I know could be town.

You claim you can't win this game at all. So how is it against YOUR best interest that town doesn't try to find an SK. You lose anyway right?

Or is that 0.1% chance suddenly way higher?

Chances are high that there is 6 antitown in this game, that is just proper balance. 5 makes less sense. But due to LT and Exo flipping it is very likely there is an SK in the game + 5 mafia. Or it is 4 mafia 1 sk, and we are looking really good atm.

So yes, we should consider lynching the SK because he probably has as much kp as the mafia team on his own. Or close to it. Lynching SK tomorrow actually makes it more likely for town to win than lynching mafia. And it's not that we are lynching townies to find the SK, we are lynching in the PoE pool but want to have a good chance to kill either SK or mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 11:38 GMT
#5016
On October 31 2016 18:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 18:33 Koshi wrote:
Can you pinkie promise you are not SK?
+
Do you thnk there is an SK in the game?

If so. Who?

I am not an SK.
I have no idea. I have barely paid attention to the game ever since figuring my chances of winning are .1%, which happened like 4 days ago or something


On October 31 2016 19:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 19:42 Koshi wrote:
Well. I think the chance on an SK are high and we need to get rid of him. Maybe DI is SK?

I dunno, DI hasn't really felt scummy to me. He hates playing as mafia and with the team we know so far that seems unlikely. Most likely the last people that need offing are in kurumi/tube.


This feels like you are pushing an agenda btw.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 31 2016 11:39 GMT
#5017
On October 31 2016 20:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 20:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Of course I will, it's against my best interests as you people seem to think I can be an sk. It doesn't make any sense to avoid people who are likely mafia on an sk witch hunt when my role already included killing some players that for all I know could be town.

You claim you can't win this game at all. So how is it against YOUR best interest that town doesn't try to find an SK. You lose anyway right?

Or is that 0.1% chance suddenly way higher?

Chances are high that there is 6 antitown in this game, that is just proper balance. 5 makes less sense. But due to LT and Exo flipping it is very likely there is an SK in the game + 5 mafia. Or it is 4 mafia 1 sk, and we are looking really good atm.

So yes, we should consider lynching the SK because he probably has as much kp as the mafia team on his own. Or close to it. Lynching SK tomorrow actually makes it more likely for town to win than lynching mafia. And it's not that we are lynching townies to find the SK, we are lynching in the PoE pool but want to have a good chance to kill either SK or mafia.

I still don't like getting lynched. I rather get endgamed. It's stupid but that's how it is.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 11:40 GMT
#5018
You haven't read the thread but you can name 2 people who need to die. Also, since ritoky claimed to be town after all, what is your read on him now? Last time you said he wasn't town because he wasn't invested, but also not mafia, aka 3p. And now?
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
October 31 2016 11:40 GMT
#5019
On October 31 2016 20:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 18:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2016 18:33 Koshi wrote:
Can you pinkie promise you are not SK?
+
Do you thnk there is an SK in the game?

If so. Who?

I am not an SK.
I have no idea. I have barely paid attention to the game ever since figuring my chances of winning are .1%, which happened like 4 days ago or something


Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 19:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2016 19:42 Koshi wrote:
Well. I think the chance on an SK are high and we need to get rid of him. Maybe DI is SK?

I dunno, DI hasn't really felt scummy to me. He hates playing as mafia and with the team we know so far that seems unlikely. Most likely the last people that need offing are in kurumi/tube.


This feels like you are pushing an agenda btw.

Except the post afterwards I already rescind and note how DI would make sense as mafia?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2016 11:41 GMT
#5020
On October 31 2016 20:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 20:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Of course I will, it's against my best interests as you people seem to think I can be an sk. It doesn't make any sense to avoid people who are likely mafia on an sk witch hunt when my role already included killing some players that for all I know could be town.

You claim you can't win this game at all. So how is it against YOUR best interest that town doesn't try to find an SK. You lose anyway right?

Or is that 0.1% chance suddenly way higher?

Chances are high that there is 6 antitown in this game, that is just proper balance. 5 makes less sense. But due to LT and Exo flipping it is very likely there is an SK in the game + 5 mafia. Or it is 4 mafia 1 sk, and we are looking really good atm.

So yes, we should consider lynching the SK because he probably has as much kp as the mafia team on his own. Or close to it. Lynching SK tomorrow actually makes it more likely for town to win than lynching mafia. And it's not that we are lynching townies to find the SK, we are lynching in the PoE pool but want to have a good chance to kill either SK or mafia.

I still don't like getting lynched. I rather get endgamed. It's stupid but that's how it is.

Sure. Nobody likes to be lynched, but your streak is not getting lynched as town. And that wont be broken. I take it you are lynched as mafia before?

Also, "I don't like to be lynched so don't lynch me" is like the worst defense ever.
I had a good night of sleep.
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