Well I figured that out. Was fun.

imo kill Vivax/Luna first. Afterthat ritoky/sicklucker/skynx/Acro. the ones who don't die and don't have damage done to them. If sicklucker is town, he should check heroes for being full hp.

Endgame it is up to people to find the mafia in LT/Hama and others. If WoS is mafia it is perfect for him that he can't post. I almost can't believe it lasts till forever. sicklucker probably knows it only last for 1 phase or so. Rupture isn't forever.

Koshi

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October 25 2016 10:36 GMT

#3357

On October 25 2016 19:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Acro, stop right there. Take a break. Reevaluate.

Koshi, is your double lynch gone?

No but I am dead.

Koshi

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October 25 2016 10:41 GMT

#3367

On October 25 2016 19:36 beentheredonethat wrote:

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I think sicklucker is town. What do you think about my reasoning, 1-3 pages ago?

I think he is playing extremely bad and I didn't forget his waffle on me. So he can die.
If he is town he should do exactly what I say.

Koshi

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October 25 2016 16:46 GMT

#3491

I am going to die so you people can read my pm. To not break the rules I will say, people that attack me get 5 damage, and this is confirmed by btdt getting 3 times 5 damage when he attacked me.

But again. You can read it yourselves soon enough.

On October 25 2016 23:52 Acrofales wrote:
Koshi: is your action refunded if you get roleblocked? Why didn't you claim roleblocked FIRST THING rather than wine about the damage you took?

I wondered about 2 things.
1) Why didn't my ulti go through
2) Why did I get so much damage.

1) I still don't know because this game has a closed set up and all kind of shit can happen. But my opinion is that I got stunned by something and due to BM saying I did 5 damage to Artanis I believe people around me attacked me. Winter Wyvern just makes sense to me. So if somewhere in the game you copcheck somebody and he is WW just murder him. Also, I can't be RB'ed. So I knew it wasn't that.

2) I didn't know what happened to my ulti so I just ignored that for the time being, thought it was tied to the darkness thing, thought the night kinda came early so the EoD resolution just didn't happen, anyway, I was upset about getting so much damage so I whined about that. I felt I played a very townie D2. Almost cheated my way to confirmed town status, but you people are really just too dense.

PS: I still have my ulti. That I know.
PSII: RIP Koshi

Koshi

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October 26 2016 11:40 GMT

#3765

I healed myself. Shouldn't really count as me visiting myself but w.e I guess.
Not sure if I believe ritokys claim but at least I correctly read him as not town. Really suspicious I got hit so much each day and now suddenly nobody comes to finish me off when there is a watcher ward on me. Could be that mafia tried to frame a townie killing me.

I still have my double lynch but it can probably be stopped by mafia. I am 100% sure I got stunned yesterday and that the people around me attacked me. Even if you don't believe me, it is what happened. It makes too much sense. btdt flipped town and CONFIRMED getting 5 damage D1, N1, D2 each time he attacked me. iamp and artanis CONFIRMED getting 5 damage D2. For me it is CONFIRMED I got hit for 30ish D2 alone. What else can it be?

##vote Vivax

For me the core of the mafia team is still Skynx/Luna/Vivax.

PS I still have to read some pages but wanted to make a quick post.

Koshi

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October 26 2016 11:42 GMT

#3767

On October 26 2016 20:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
you could be scum. but luckily it's not actually up to you what we do

dont be scared by his bs retaliation claims, and even if it was true, murdering him is the right play anyway. i can take 5 or whatever to get rid of the SK, and so can you. saves more hp in the long run anyway.
absolutely no reason that even if he WAS honest (nope) to assume artanis is smart enough to kill mafia for us, so negotiations are over.

Is this about me now?

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:13 GMT

#3794

Do we know what happened to LT?

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:20 GMT

#3797

I don't believe 2 different 3ps that disappear if they achieve their wincon. Really fishy balance later in the game.

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:20 GMT

#3798

I'll think of it while working. But last game we also had 2 people claiming 3p and 1 was town and 1 was mafia.

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:36 GMT

#3799

ritoky claims that placing an item that he got from the hosts costed his entire turn? I find that hard to believe.

-He claims to be 3p
-He gets an item completely useless to his role.
-He gets an item that is solely "pro-town" as 3p, sounds like backseat modding and I don't think they would do that.
-The item does completely nothing, I was hit for tons each day and then right when I am about to die nothing happens.
-The item sees I heal myself? Which seems like a tracker and not a watcher. Which is pretty cool so I am confirmed not doing bad things.

Ritoky should be forced to claim his wincon to the smallest details. Because even with mafia killing each day 3 townies, the game still lasts long enough for him to make 5, even 6 copies. Unless Vivax is not mafia and we decide to not lynch mafia 3 more times after that. Which I don't believe at all.

If Vivax flips town, Ritoky should always be the next lynch. Not that a single hair on my head thinks that.

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:40 GMT

#3800

My point is that I find it very hard to believe hosts gave him an item that is not beneficial for his role, just to help town which he for some reason feels is "forced" to do, that item costed his entire turn, and then ended up not seeing anybody kill me and see me flip town.

Extremely unlikely.

The mafia counterstory:
Mafia has a watcher, ritoky claims his actions as his own to gain towncred especially if I get killed because then they can even push a misslynch, ritoky himself does bad things during the night.

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:44 GMT

#3801

Artanis his role looks complicated enough to be believable atm.

Can you claim how many achievements you need to complete and how many you already did complete?

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:44 GMT

#3802

Artanis should be forced to always claim when he achieves something. So we can keep track and maybe help him to see if he lies.

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:46 GMT

#3804

On October 26 2016 21:45 ptmc wrote:

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I believe him

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ok then. That is just weird though. Why force somebody to waste a turn?

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:47 GMT

#3806

On October 26 2016 21:45 ptmc wrote:

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I believe him

Still, you believe he is actually 3p meepo that just clones himself and then gets removed from the game?

That sounds fucking stupid as fuck no?

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:48 GMT

#3808

On October 26 2016 21:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
claim he needs 10 wincons
'oops guys not quite there yet'
'nope still not quite, just do random thing X for me'
'i guess that wasn't enough! let me just kill a coulpe people'

i can see into the future.

Well, force him to claim so we can put on the bullshit detector at least.

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:52 GMT

#3811

On October 26 2016 21:50 Dandel Ion wrote:

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join me in punching him
he'll sing pretty soon.

Why do you believe ritoky his claim over Artanis?

Artanis his role I can understand the mechanics.

What does ritoky do?

N1 Clone (tell the game on clone account he is 3p)
N2 Clone
N3 Clone
N4 Clone
D5 win and remove from game?

EXCITING!

Koshi

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October 26 2016 12:59 GMT

#3815

On October 26 2016 07:07 ritoky wrote:
This town is such a trainwreck that they are probably going to lose before I can complete my win condition, so I sacrificed a night of cloning to use this sentry ward that I somehow got. Koshi should have been a prime target for information but people are mind-bogglingly dumb I suppose.

Unless there is also a 3p vendor in the game it is the hosts.

Koshi

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October 26 2016 13:11 GMT

#3831

On October 26 2016 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Oh you were right he did 'just get it.'
that is weird.

I'm still not concerning myself with 3P claims over sure scum yet.

Ignoring them is bad play. Look at iamp in Palmar Themed game.
Pressure them hard and learn everything they can do or kill them.
Then they are forced to claim everything or play against their wincon.

Koshi

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October 26 2016 13:12 GMT

#3835

On October 26 2016 22:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Random thought:
Is there anything we can learn from vivax's filter? He did post a little before end of D1. And I know it's scum and unflipped association and whatnot but I'm curious.

We could, but we could also use this time to focus on 3p and do that tomorrow. 96 hours left in that day as well.