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On September 23 2016 21:25 Federkleid wrote: /in Hello I'm a completely new player and never played a mafia game before. Hope I can catch up with you while playing. I mean it sounds fun ^^ It's a good thing you didn't choose to start by joining a game filled with bitter, jaded and grumpy veterans. | ||
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Even consistently good players are just slightly more often right or good than terrible ones, because it's such a marginal game. And no, my comment was sarcastic, there's absolutely nothing wrong with playing in this game as a newbie. | ||
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##vote marvellosity | ||
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On October 04 2016 07:57 Grackaroni wrote: I can't kill Marv because I need to sheep him. is fine we sheep or kill | ||
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On October 04 2016 08:07 Calix wrote: If either of you two are scum, you're doing a great job of putting me to sleep with dumb meta talk. 100% calix scum too. calix town meta is talk many words calix scum meta is then ???? | ||
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On October 04 2016 08:16 Calix wrote: Your argument is invalid because you're applying it to a person who deliberately makes herself difficult to meta-read. Your comment just makes me want to post like this for the rest of the game just to prove my point. But if that's not convincing enough then the last newbie game where I just gave up can disprove your point for me. lalalala can't hear you over how much mafia you are | ||
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On October 04 2016 23:32 marvellosity wrote: i can't be bothered to explain if you can't just read the few posts preceding this where i quoted you directly saying "i don't get why you asked the question" anyway ##Vote: Palmar Highest % mafia right now That's rude | ||
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On October 04 2016 22:11 NeverUnlucky wrote: Damn, you beat me with the 66%. I do not agree with Palmar. I'm not sure I believe this post but whatever | ||
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On October 05 2016 01:30 Calix wrote: Yo who wants to spend 20 minutes listening to how I'm like, Numbah Wun? I'll bite. I was mafia that game, I'm actually a really nice guy, except when I'm an asshole. But most of the time that I'm not an asshole I am nice. What do you think of Holyflare? Particularly this reply to you voting NU: On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way. More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. The bad is leaving himself an out, but he's essentially saying it's scummy that you voted him. | ||
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On October 04 2016 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote: NU, is calix mafia? ##vote superbia Calix the fake activity is refering to you being mafia and just pushing shit for the sake of creating posts. Nu, can you explain why stutters is mafia? This one here. He's talking about like 3 different things in that post and somehow votes Superbia in the process. The point is that it's so obviously weird to structure a post like that, that I would think there's a tiny chance self-aware mafia might stop himself from making this post, or at least stop to restructure it. | ||
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jesus people, get it right. | ||
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On October 05 2016 01:40 justanothertownie wrote: Terribly sorry to interrupt your most intimate conversation but what is YOUR opinion on HF? Feel free to answer after calix does if necessary. I have none. I want to lynch him, but that is completely unrelated to whether or not I think he's mafia. | ||
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Also someone kidnapped the real Koshi, but I'm not sure fake koshi is mafia. But he's not real koshi. | ||
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On October 05 2016 01:43 Calix wrote: Fine, whatever. This is #202. It's not actually that amazing or worth making a follow-up post on, I just thought it was him making a non-scummy thing into a scum tell. it's not really a reach, but maybe it's too much justice. | ||
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On October 05 2016 01:44 Calix wrote: Palmar dear, do you have anything else to add that you feel has been overlooked by others? Not really. There's a lot of things going on that don't really help much. Almost everyone is playing close to their own meta so I need to figure out a way to make this game about this particular game and not about personalities. Which is going to be a problem as this game has a lot of them. | ||
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On October 04 2016 07:11 Calix wrote: Okay it's been 20 minutes and still no elaboration on that terrible entrance post/ question even though he's around. NU can move down a notch. this is a reach | ||
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On October 05 2016 01:52 Calix wrote: I'm not reaching. I'm just an impatient person. What's the point of saying you would have mod-killed NU? none, hence why I called it a sidenote. | ||
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excellent bully targets are jat and superbia. They're both kinda.... here, but not doing much. Which isn't really scummy for either of them, as that's what they do all the time, but we need to make them commit to shit to figure out what they actually think. | ||
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On October 05 2016 02:05 justanothertownie wrote: I am pretty sure that I have been quire clear on what I think so far. Feel free to bully superbia though. He is a decent target. Questionable post tbh. you know that to "make me commit to shit" is not the way to get a read on me. sure is if you commit wrong, you scum. | ||
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On October 05 2016 20:34 marvellosity wrote: sounds logical, but it would be untrue. I would have been crushingly depressed not to have rolled town in my first game in 4 months and been even lazier than usual I don't think this is true, but I also think that's irrelevant, and I think you think it's true. | ||
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a) he might be (or he might believe that he is) correct that pressuring him to take a stance isn't going to work. b) he also knows that I believe I can pressure him into submission as town, whether or not that is true seems irrelevant. c) despite b), it's not certain that he thought about what I believe So in general, I'm still sort of meh on JAT, he is doing the jat thing where he sort of casually comments along in the thread, and I always think he's mafia for it and sometimes I tunnel it and sometimes I leave it. I have no real idea what he actually is. | ||
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On October 05 2016 21:29 Calix wrote: The fact that you think that I'm a good player automatically tells me that you're overestimating my play. Did you know that this should make me scumread you. And I'm tempted to, I don't know though. Thing is, when given credit in mafia, you should always take it as town. If I control the lynch as a townie, because people are willing to listen to me, I am automatically increasing town chances of succeeding by a tiny bit. I'm not going to lynch myself, so statistically I'm more likely to hit mafia from my pov. Even then, it's always beneficial as town to have people listen to me. On the other hand, as mafia it's the other way around. If I know people won't listen to me as mafia, I'll just bus every day and call everyone bad until the game is over. So, no matter your intention here, you did something that is objectively scummy. Thing is though, people do objectively scummy things all the time as all alignmnets. | ||
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On October 05 2016 21:36 Calix wrote: tl;dr: You're accusing me of marginalising my own contributions. Except I wasn't doing that because I didn't put down my own points. All I did was say "I'm not a good player" which is true as I'm not that experienced. If you think it's 'objectively scummy' but you don't think it makes me scum then that means that you're accusing me of playing badly...which supports my point. Essentially yes For example, I am #1 player, therefore people listen to me. | ||
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On October 05 2016 21:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok now I'm gonna sheep Marv, so my vote is not useless Palmar.... Honestly though bats re-entry did not include a scum-read or Vote and it did include some stupid shit about "if I'm mafia and super is town, I have nothing to gain by hard defending super" except that 1, when super flips you get cred for being right, 2, your influence is so low that you aren't going to change anyone's minds. Vote threads suxk I don't think your vote is useless. Why are you telling me that? | ||
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Calix is meek Scum are meek Calix is scum QED | ||
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On October 06 2016 04:43 Koshi wrote: Can you define what Palmar being scummy means? Like... What are the requirements for Palmar to be scummy? This is afk Palmar. When is afk Palmar scummy? If I say sorry stupid shit that sounds smart I'm mafia If I say smart shit that sounds borderline retarded I'm town | ||
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On October 06 2016 05:12 Grackaroni wrote: Go defend yourself so that I can incriminate you in the eyes of Calix. nah I don't give a shit. I know it's bad but I just can't even get myself to care. I'm in full fuck it mode. | ||
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On October 06 2016 05:16 Grackaroni wrote: Don't make me quote the last game where you shit on Damdred for doing this. I was mafia so no fucks | ||
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I still think Calix might because tone. HF I like earlier but now I'm not so sure Oats sounded at one point like town Koshi I have no idea NU disappeared after that stunt? He's been unimpactful for a fairly colorful player Superbia is clearly overdoing his "I'm not gonna do shit" persona. But he could do that as town anyway Marv is grey area, lynch him if he's not right on day 1 and 2 | ||
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There's 4 people on my wagon. 2 of them are really bad at mafia so they can be forgiven. Superbia is a lazy shit so maybe he's not scum, but I don't know why Grack is voting me. | ||
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Really bad | ||
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Voting my counterwagon is optimal play if I'm town or mafia. I stated I would do so, it's NAI HF thinks I would only do it as mafia, he doesn't actually believe that because he's not stupid. Thus he's mafia. QED. | ||
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Even if calix is mafia she's hilarious | ||
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On October 06 2016 05:57 Grackaroni wrote: It's still going to end up as Batsnacks somehow and I really don't understand why because there was never any really good reasoning given. Not like any good reason has been given on me | ||
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he didn't sound like mafia so he didn't flip mafia yall bads | ||
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On October 06 2016 06:10 Holyflare wrote: You voted too late it wouldn't have saved you. I'm shooting calix 100%. Nobody accuses town batsnacks of defending Superbia and then defends palmar that hard unless they are mafia. walk the walk, I want a dead calix in the morning | ||
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maybe shoot him, who cares. | ||
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On October 06 2016 06:22 Grackaroni wrote: No killing Calix. Palmar might get some points for defending bats. because saying he's town with perfect info is a hard thing to do you're dumb or mafia and probably the latter. | ||
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On October 06 2016 06:59 Holyflare wrote: Palmar didn't even vote to save himself. Shit plays. Palmar is alive | ||
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On October 06 2016 18:55 Holyflare wrote: Also in regard to marv I don't think he doesn't see the batsnacks townie hints that I saw because he's usually very good at that stuff and always up for shenanigans. I agree with this. | ||
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On October 06 2016 19:15 Koshi wrote: Ok. marv can be mafia. I might have started this game entirely wrong. I think you should generally assume that. | ||
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On October 06 2016 20:21 marvellosity wrote: Palmar would never say this about me as town. ever. Are you 100% sure? Because if you are, you must think I'm mafia and never waver on that read. | ||
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But ok | ||
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On October 07 2016 08:34 Calix wrote: In other news, Palmar continues to be a complete shitter. This is false, I've given a ton of great reads. | ||
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On October 07 2016 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote: anyone who tries to give reasons to lynch palmar is clearly not reading the thread because there is nothing new that can be added to the stuff already said about palmar. This guy is my hero | ||
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On October 07 2016 17:58 Oatsmaster wrote: jat has posted absolutely no content whatsoever, its disgusting how little shit is in his 10 page filter. Jat, find a scumread and write some shit about him go My goddamn hero | ||
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Marv is mafia, thanks hosts for ruining game. | ||
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On October 07 2016 05:32 Holyflare wrote: I don't rate their funny posts very highly on my arbitrary scale. I like this list | ||
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Batsnacks sounded like a townie Oats sounds like a townie NU sounds like a special snowflake Grack is not as funny as I would've thought he should be, but I do like him nonetheless, for now. Superbia is being an ass, but he does that all the time as all alignments, don't think he's been overtly scummy. One of the big milestones today is going to be whether or not he realizes what is up. If he doesn't, he needs to be dropped very low on everyone's lists when I flip town. Superbia is smart, knows me well, and a good player in general. If he votes for me when I'm town, that's super concerning. Damdred and Stutters are players I have completely ignored. Marv is going to drop his vote on me. If he actually stays he's 100% mafia. He reads me better than any player in the history of TL mafia, he has basically a 100% rate on figuring my alignment by day 2 when he's town. If I ever flip town, and he is still calling me mafia, he is scum. there is NO WAY AROUND IT. Thing is, I also know that he knows exactly this. He CAN'T be wrong on me, so I know he's going to end up drop his vote on me today. Depending on whether I believe the reasoning there's a tiny chance I'm wrong. But the NK, his play, his lack of enthusiasm for some things and just some tonally weird things, all point to marv-mafia. Not to mention, both HF and I picked up a townie vibe from batsnacks, and marv completely failed to recognize it. He is better at town than both of us, and that is super concerning. JAT/Koshi/Calix <--- Three strong players who have been atrociously wrong throughout the game. There is definitely town in this group, probably even two. Whichever ones of you are town need to pull head out of asses and start playing reasonably. It is very likely that one of the townies is Koshi, because him tunneling stupid things is kind of what he does as town, the other two are slightly better so who knows. Regarding Calix specifically, my day 1 read of her is mostly tonal. She felt very analytical and willing to try to solve the game when she was town in the last game I was with her. This contrasts her more timid and reserved tone here. I am also slightly suspicious of how she could read me so well on day 1 (against all odds she was calling me town) and then dropped it with some complete bullshit reasoning on n1, that is worrying. | ||
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On October 07 2016 18:38 justanothertownie wrote: If you flip town we should probably lynch him for tmi. if I flip town you lynch marv, you understand that, right? | ||
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listpost yo it has a section on you, I even call you good player in it. No word yet whether I'm pandering or being sincere. I'm probably pandering though you're not that good. | ||
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On October 07 2016 18:51 justanothertownie wrote: If you actually start to play at some point and he is still leading a mislynch on you then you have a point. I have a point, right now. But you're crooked or bad | ||
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On October 07 2016 18:52 justanothertownie wrote: The point was very simple. People (oats I think) called your shitfight obviously TvT. I disagree with that - this should not be a reason to townread you. It was 100% a TvT, go away | ||
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On October 07 2016 18:56 justanothertownie wrote: Says the guy who did not list calix as town in his list. Can you explain how I have been "atrociously wrong" all game? You cannot seriously fault anyone for scumreading you, even if you are town. I just did | ||
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On October 07 2016 18:57 Calix wrote: This is the first time I've seen you wall-post ever. And the first half of your reads list isn't complete shite. You've finally managed to cross that extremely low threshold set for you. Marv isn't mafia, go focus your efforts somewhere else instead of being a moron because of META. Maybe on Stutters-Scott/ Damdred instead. I'm insulted that you think I'm on the same level as JAT based purely on ONE GAME. That's not even meta, that's just a random fucking game. You continued to be useless and pretty much everyone else looks more townie than you due to said uselessness and two of my scum-reads were wrong, so I decided "well fuck him anyway" and now you're being slightly less useless so who knows. I don't think you understand the Marv/Palmar dynamic. Everyone here will back me up in saying that it's super, super important. For now, until marv comes back and actually sounds like a rational human being, he MUST be mafia. There is no way around it. This is not normal "these guys know each other". Being on same level as jat + Show Spoiler [Jat don't read this] + is actually a compliment. I am good at mafia, I can tell who has potential in mafia, who is capable of leading, who is capable of communicating, I'm the #1 proponent of the three objectives, the least important of which is finding mafia I am not useless, I'm just not a volume poster. I have stated my reasons for everything along the way. Also, everyone knows that the time I can spend on playing mafia tends to vary a bit, and that I don't really care. | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:00 justanothertownie wrote: I did not say that either. You are somewhere between low end of null and scum. Haven't made up my mind yet. She's 100% town. Agree now. | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:00 Calix wrote: JAT's posts are extremely triggering with how scummy they are right now. Pls tag. I will gladly lynch JAT with you. | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:03 Calix wrote: Duh, obviously you're not going to directly say that. You saw someone give out a town-read. Your first response was to attack the town-read even though you claim you don't scum-read me either. Your reasoning is that I'm "less townie than NU" (lol) This reads like scum rationale over a townie mindset. 100% | ||
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Don't have to, I'll just join her crusade to lynch you. | ||
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Game solved, let's try again next time. | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:09 justanothertownie wrote: Have fun with that ^^ But in order to not get lynched you should rather spend your time trying to find mafia instead of wasting it. Don't have to, I'll just sheep Calix, she finds mafia for me. | ||
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I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side. Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia. In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad. | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:12 Calix wrote: I can use my reads to ascertain alignments and reconsider in light of new evidence. I'm not the slightest bit inclined to give a shit about dynamics, much like nobody should give a fuck about how NU/ myself read each other. You have a weird way of complimenting people then. I wasn't criticising how you were posting although I can see how I gave you that impression, more like what you were posting. I can vote JAT with you. Sure, why not? As I said, I know JAT very well, I know Damdred, superbia, Oats, HF, Koshi all very, very well, probably most of the other people in this game I know very well. I wouldn't dream of using a dynamic argument like this on anyone but marv, and marv only. The only other person in history of TL mafia I've had a dynamic like this with is syllogism. The difference is that I've talked to both these guys for hours upon hours about mafia, reading, dynamics etc. This is not a normal "I know that guy". This has basically an insanely long track record of never failing. Can someone from TL please back me up on this. | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:16 Palmar wrote: Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today: I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side. Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia. In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad. The only way to avoid this, is if someone else, (Calix? Superbia?) takes the mantle of leadership and whips this town into shape. It's going to be really tough, but it's what needs to be done. | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:16 justanothertownie wrote: I am lynching Palmar right now and have said that and also voted him for ages. That should be pretty obvious. I would love to keep listening to your bullshit but unfortunately I have to work now. Why are you trying to lynch a townread? | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:20 Calix wrote: Palmar, maybe try voting yourself first? lol done | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:20 Oatsmaster wrote: please help me and quote them. From my perspective, you are just posting one liners and being real salty. My town alliance is growing strong Mafia is about to get rekt | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:23 Superbia wrote: No time.  I'll play co leader in the evening mayb.Main thing is not to allow a shit lynch today. If you don't lynch jat or marv, you lynch me. No fucking sidekick lynches. | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:23 Grackaroni wrote: This is a pretty terrible assessment of that argument. Please fill in the form below [ ] I wish to join Palmar's Town gang [ ] I am mafia Thank you. | ||
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This was unexpected, he must come up with a solution. The suspense is killing me. | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:40 Koshi wrote: I like how people are only mafia after you flip. It's your only argument. Fearmongering at its best. Straggler | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:58 Oatsmaster wrote: like 100% not true but contextually in this game hes town though. if he somehow makes it to lylo with me, hes hanging. man I keep flipping back and forth on marv. Hes almost too chill. Damn. Just vote jat It's like doing fentanyl instead of heroin. The high is not as good and it's more likely to end in a disaster | ||
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On October 07 2016 20:15 marvellosity wrote: okay I kinda see Superbia. I'm asking Palmar to explain my motivation for my actions in the scenario I outlined. That's not a defence, that's me wanting to know if he has a reasonable explanation. I don't have a reasonable explantion. | ||
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On October 07 2016 20:16 marvellosity wrote: Palmar: please explain your EoD / HF reads thank you (you've really not done enough to justify me coming off you - saying with great certainty that i should be coming off you by now is a falsehood, as you and i both know i have voted for you for certain periods of time when you were town in many, many games) no, not really. | ||
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On October 07 2016 20:17 marvellosity wrote: go away. every time you talk to me you ask me stupid things or want me to do things. do your own things. i'll do my things. thx. I agree with the things superbia wants you to do | ||
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On October 07 2016 20:23 marvellosity wrote: so what were you doing? why didn't you care that bats was getting lynched, why did you vote for HF when before and after you townread him? I don't want to tell you my secrets. | ||
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We're lynching JAT, and that's what we're doing,. | ||
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On October 07 2016 21:51 Superbia wrote: I walk a certain road and I generally don't care if people are walking before or behind me. As long as people are walking in similar direction. so edgy | ||
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On October 07 2016 23:04 Koshi wrote: RIP Dutch football team after the next 2 games. 1/6. I heard the dutch didn't make the Euro cup last time That was such a shame. | ||
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On October 07 2016 23:29 marvellosity wrote: i'm so grumpy i won't even dignify that with a yes still said yes. | ||
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On October 07 2016 23:20 marvellosity wrote: how? he still won't answer basic questions. I don't have to, I'm playing supertown, so everything else I do, and any questioning of me is completely irrelevant. | ||
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plus it's fun to piss off marv. Like I know this can backfire, but it's hilarious to refuse to answer questions only to have JAT lynched as a consequence. | ||
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On October 08 2016 04:30 marvellosity wrote: and tbh this is an excellent addition to the case The Marv is scum case? | ||
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On October 08 2016 04:53 marvellosity wrote: i just can't possibly understand how he has managed to reach the conclusion he has given the relative posting of me and Palmar. Palmar has done NOT ONE SINGLE THING to try to lynch a scumread. but i'm scum because i'm not trying to be convincing? it's so fucking illogical. NOT ONE SINGLE THING. bears repeating. This is correct and the conclusion is correct too | ||
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that's because you suffer from bads. | ||
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On October 08 2016 04:48 marvellosity wrote: calix, is nu terrible? if not i'm gonna have to downgrade him he is very prone to ridiculous plots and tinfoiling, and his reads aren't based on anything | ||
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On October 08 2016 04:02 marvellosity wrote: i wish you guys had just gone along with me more on the palmar thing, because he had a half hour flurry of decent posts and now he's coasting on it because everyone went 'oooh that looked nice'. it's so dull it isn't dull, it's correct. You lack confidence, that points to you being mafia, but fuck it let's pretend you're not for a little bit for the sake of moving the game forward. By lack of confidence, I mean your ridiculous emphasis on getting me to answer some completely tangential questions you have no need for to determine my alignment. But if you must, the explanation is very simple. I wasn't very much around, I didn't think bats was scum and I'm not mafia. I tried to push for a Calix lynch, which I've now decided was retarded. At the deadline I was mad and only barely paying attention to the thread. I did explain my reasoning for voting HF, but in hindsight I was just being a moron and failed to catch what is a fairly obvious joke. I got mad and voted him. Essentially, I got trolled. Of course he started posting like a townie and making sense again, so I came around, also realizing that I was just being stupid. Someone said during that time that HF was scummy for pulling the "it was just a joke" defense, but whatever. | ||
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Let's assume you're town. From your point of view, you're afraid that I'm fooling all the peasants, but you and jat remain steadfast. I get it, you don't want to be one of the morons I just fooled. But look at at it from my point of view. To me, I know I'm town, and I've just convinced a bunch of people I am town, to the point where some of them seem fairly convinced. Sure, some of them may be TMI, but all can't be. So do you not understand why it concerns me that the guy who is more often right on me than anyone else fails to do what people who know me far worse have done easily. I am being completely reasonable here. | ||
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On October 08 2016 05:16 NeverUnlucky wrote: I'll give Plamar his daily dose of tinfoil. The HF kill made me wonder why mafia did not kill inside the town circle that had formed D1 (Koshi, Super, Grack, Calix, Oats, me). My tinfoiling senses tell me that it is because there is a deep wolf inside the circle. My logic tells me the mafia are bad players and need to kill the best (by reputation) player in the game. *cough* because you're all bad*cough* But in reality. HF is an excellent player who was making sense, being townread, threatened being a blue role (he always does) and if I'm right, he was closing in on mafia. | ||
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On October 08 2016 05:20 NeverUnlucky wrote: Who are you and where is the real Plamar? wtf are you on about? | ||
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On October 08 2016 05:26 NeverUnlucky wrote: Am I wrong to say that you two are starting to tr each other? yes, but to be honest due to tiny brain syndrome, it's probably best you assume you're not. | ||
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If not, it's guillotine time. | ||
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On October 08 2016 05:24 NeverUnlucky wrote: "I am being completely reasonable here." I am always reasonable. Unreasonable people aren't good at mafia, I'm pretty good at this game. | ||
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On October 08 2016 05:41 scott31337 wrote: So Jat is on Palmar and Palmar is on JAT but Palmar says marv mafia with no case. Somethings not right with my reads then. What's Damdred said this day? Anything useful? Let me go back through his filter. ok this guy can maybe be mafia | ||
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On October 09 2016 03:01 NeverUnlucky wrote: This post leads me to believe that if one of Plam/Super is town, Plamar is the one. Super's early tr of Plam would be a TMI. I think I prefer voting Super actually. You're terrible man | ||
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On October 09 2016 05:28 Superbia wrote: tbf I'm just looking at the people voting for me rofl. Palmar and marv both awfully unpresent. Literally in Spain, as I explained | ||
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On October 09 2016 05:40 Koshi wrote: I have no problem with this lynch. I kinda just really want to flip Palmar. Superbia I could see be town somehow. While Palmar is again not lynched.after a full day doing nothing. Palmar is a sure bet on mafia. Probably mafia at this point. Koshi | ||
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Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred | ||
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On October 07 2016 19:16 Palmar wrote: Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today: I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side. Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia. In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad. | ||
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On October 09 2016 05:49 justanothertownie wrote: Explain. How on earth can you townread superbia? #1 player | ||
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On October 09 2016 06:53 Grackaroni wrote: By the way Palmar, Marv is going to come back and say that you failed to defend your town read for the second lynch in a row. I suggest you start preparing your response ahead of time. This game is lost because I can't lead | ||
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but hey, let them run rings around you because you're all followers and without hf or me to be the leader you're blind. | ||
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I physically can't lead this, I just happen to have very little time to play, I can be here occasionally and give opinions. I have 8 pages of filter, but I cannot spend the time to whip this bunch of morons into shape. And I have no idea why no one else is trying to do it. It's frustrating as fuck. Bye for now. | ||
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Calix is 100% town NU is 100% town Oats is 100% town Grack is 80% town Damdred is 50% town Koshi is 50% town Scott is 40% town Jag is 5% town Marv is 0% town two free mafia. gg wp | ||
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On October 10 2016 02:01 Grackaroni wrote: I pretty much have to conclude that JAT is mafia at this point. and marv | ||
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HF died for believing I KILL PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHT AS MAFIA. JESUS FUCK PEOPLE | ||
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On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote: And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town? You said the same thing about superbia  I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive. I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv. | ||
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On October 11 2016 01:19 NeverUnlucky wrote: I'm finding some posts that would make me scum-read Calix, but I just am not able to. My gut tells me with confidence that she is town. Shes town. I dont care | ||
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On October 10 2016 09:07 Damdred wrote: And I mean dumb as I really do,enjoy you NU and Mean it in a loving way. Time to figure out the game if you're town | ||
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On October 11 2016 04:40 justanothertownie wrote: Palmar just told you "I will not care about this lynch at all and vote this guy who is definitely mafia even though I never justified why and never will while there is this other guy who I have actual reasons to scumread". Palmar is not this shit as town. Lol | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:02 Koshi wrote: Well. Worked till 20h00 (dafuq???) and then had soccer at 21h00. Drank some beers and now it is 24h00 and I still have to eat. Literally nothing changed in here so that's nice. Except that it isn't really. I agree with JAT and have the exact same view on the game. Maybe I would vote Damdred over Scott. But mafia is Palmar/Oats/Damdred and then maybe marv/scott. But as long as these people refuse to play the game we are just circle jerking all day all night. Not refusing. I was very clear I'd be in Valencia for a few days | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:12 justanothertownie wrote: Counterquestion palmar: Do you believe I am mafia with marv? yes, in fact the entire case for you being mafia rests on me not believing you can be so blind to marv's obvious mafia play. Like that is the primary reason I'm voting you. I also think it's easier to get people to vote you than marv, but that may no longer be true with marv not doing anything. He is 100% mafia, 100%. And you don't see it, which makes me want to kill you with all the fire I can find. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:18 Calix wrote: So you are voting JAT based on pre-flip associations? Wow. yes I know not everyone is this good. throw me a bone here guys. One of you mention wanting to kill marv who: a) voted a terrible lynch on day 1, where BOTH ME AND HF noticed bats saying shit that didn't sound like mafia. We both said so. Marv is even better than us two at this tonal townie thing, and he flat out ignored it. b) he voted me on day 2, then became less convinced I was mafia because I don't sound like damn mafia because I'm not one, but instead of doing anything, he just... went afk c) killed hf, which is the obvious marv kill when hf suspected him and everyone thought hf was town. Someone please, put votes on him. I'm moving my vote to marv, and I'm going to see what happens. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:20 NeverUnlucky wrote: Palmar, I think you should roleclaim. piss off, I'm tired of your completely pointless posts. I'll entertain and explain why the shit you do is bad when I have time, but for now no. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:19 justanothertownie wrote: You seriously don't see how I would be hesitant to lynch him after what happened last game? You seriously think I would defend marv instead of just straight up bussing him when he just completely bails out? well show me. He is 100% mafia this game, so all you have to do is go vote him. There is no universe where this is town marv. | ||
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you cannot be this blind to this. The game is moving in completely the wrong direction. THE WRONG DIRECTION I FUCKING PREDICTED. If you are somehow town. If anyone is somehow town, your vote needs to be on marv. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:24 justanothertownie wrote: That was definitely one of the main reasons if not the only one. Palmar voting me for not killing a supposed mafia marv is so incredibly bad... he knows I would be hedgy as fuck on him as town. He knows I would bus the fuck out of him as mafia. Like I did to palmar and sandro in my last scumgame. the latter one is actually a semi-point. And no, I know you hedge, but you don't hedge when shit is obvious. This game is going down the drain, and the only reason is that mafia killed HF and I didn't have time to play. The rest of town are incapable of leading or being useful at all, and it's the most frustrating experience in a while. Like fucking superbia knew I was town, I knew he was town, and he got himself lynched by some terribads because he couldn't be arsed to just this once pull through. I hate having to be the goddamn carry in every fucking game. I can't do it now, I'm traveling abroad, so whatever Life's good though, Valenca is an amazing city with great food. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:26 justanothertownie wrote: If he does not appear tomorrow or if he does and and he is more mafia than you are then I will entertain this idea. Pinky promise. yeah but everyone is always super paranoid about me even when I'm bleeding town (tonally, not on content, I admit) this game. Like this is tonally the most townie I've played in a llong time. But you're just gonna go back and say "oh hey palmar looks like mafia because I'm terrible and thought superbia would flip scum". Like I have 0% faith in your ability to judge mafia from town on tone, which is required this game. So you're mafia, or if you're not, you should just sheep me. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:29 justanothertownie wrote: Great rant 10/10. "Noone is capable of leading." Except I lead a fucking lynch on day2. "I knew superbia was town". Except you called him an acceptable lynch and only changed your mind when it was too late. you lead a lynch on a townie. Let's replace you with someone who knows what's up. I knew he was town. I decided (at first) to hedge and say it wasn't the worst lynch. partly because I was mad at him for not leading or doing things, and partly because I thought there was a tiny chance this was a hipster mafia play. Then I of course saw the truth and the way the wagon was forming, which you should have recognized too but bads, so whatever. Like if I am to believe you are town I have to assume you're kind of bad, which doesn't fit. I think you're good. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:36 justanothertownie wrote: Now I know you are mafia. The Palmar I know would never admit this. At this point you're trolling me and I can't do shit about it because this town is dreadful. ok whatever. fucking hell I wish this game would've started a week earlier. I'd have trashed this I'm going to sleep. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:37 justanothertownie wrote: But seriously, you saw me lead countless mislynches as town. You lead countless mislynches as town. It doesn't mean that I am bad at all. Let's quote a wise man: Ok but why do you insist on keep being bad? Like why don't you just stop being bad and lynch mafia? | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:36 Calix wrote: Okay Palmar, let us know when you have some A* contributions instead of trying to lynch an AFK player over yourself, using terrible reasoning everywhere and some whining about how bad everyone else is. This here people is why we'll lose. Remember in the post game, how stupid this post is. ok bye. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote: What about it is stupid? The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me. Nothing on anyone else. you know how I feel about everyone else and I'm behind on the game. NU can't concoct all this stupidity as scum so he's town Calix is unnaturally bad, but still, sounded kinda sincere at points so town Koshi, scott and damdred can fall either way. Koshi sounds slightly mafia and scott, maybe. Damdred sounds slightly town marv is scum. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote: What about it is stupid? The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me. Nothing on anyone else. I'll explain what about it is stupid. It's the complete lack of willing to lead. I have been begging for someone to actually lead this town in a sane way since day 2. I knew I wouldn't be able to. I almost always accept the role of leader myself, but I just can't this time around. So, she expects me to pump out content and contributions, and doesn't like the fact I'm trying to lynch scum. Let's remove the name "Palmar" and replace it with "Oatsmaster" or "Onegu" or "Dandel Ion". Suddenly my 9 pages of filter don't look so bad. I am trying to move the game in a sane direction, and in the process I'm putting my reads neck out there because I truly don't know much about the game. I just know a few things and I'm still good at recognizing what is happening and understanding game state. If I was Onegu, people would be working around my reduced contributions and be willing to solve the game without my input. But Calix wants to sit on her ass and expects to be carried to victory by some monumental effort by me. How about, just this once, yall open my filter. Perhaps compare to the last game in which I tried to play the "afk mafia" role for a bit, and tell me how tonally similar I am to myself. Or just read what I've posted so far in the game. It's really some of the more townie stuff I've done. | ||
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On October 11 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote: Palmar is obvious town. ssshhh let them figure it out themselves. | ||
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On October 12 2016 05:06 marvellosity wrote: exactly, you don't. if scott is town, mafia is happy with the lynch. if scott is mafia, he may as well get lynched now (from mafia's perspective) as pushing against the lynch would look odd. unfortunately that makes wagonomics kinda useless for today This is true regardless og marvs alignment | ||
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