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On September 24 2016 06:02 beentheredonethat wrote:She's going to observe the newbie game instead. Some concerns were raised about a newbie in a stacked lineup .
This lineup is appealing to the point where it makes me second think my break from FM...
*Must resist the temptation. Must... resist... the... temptation...*
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On September 24 2016 06:43 beentheredonethat wrote: Do it!
Ugh. You've shown me the cookie jar, and with each second that passes I tantalize more and more in sight of the cookies. I cannot withstand the temptation anymore.
/take a cookie (/in)
So much for taking a break, zzz.
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On September 27 2016 17:46 beentheredonethat wrote:Huh? :-/
He is replacing someone in the newbie game.
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My day one activity will be hindered too due to a lack of free time. I should be able to commit as much time as I usually do day two onwards. Please no policy lyncherino.
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"6. Posting any PM you receive from a host." Would you kindly specify what is not allowed regarding PMs?
On October 04 2016 06:43 Calix wrote: Superbia stole my laptop. Good joke.
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On October 04 2016 06:52 Calix wrote: Why would you even need to quote anything from the host? lmao
I can be mod confirmed. Will elaborate when needed.
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On October 04 2016 07:11 Calix wrote: Okay it's been 20 minutes and still no elaboration on that terrible entrance post/ question even though he's around.
NU can move down a notch.
Was catching up with the Newbie game.
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On October 04 2016 07:00 Grackaroni wrote: Lol NU I think the rule is pretty well defined.
I do not. Hence why I ask. I would like specific examples to know whether the rules prohibit me from being mod confirmed.
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On October 04 2016 07:17 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 07:15 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 06:52 Calix wrote: Why would you even need to quote anything from the host? lmao I can be mod confirmed. Will elaborate when needed. You cannot be mod confirmed. Do not post any PM from a host. You can claim a role if you wish, but it would be pretty stupid.
It may be because I'm new here, and the PM looked atypical to me, but I really believe I can be mod confirmed. I just need to know what "post any PM from a host" means. Quoting?
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On October 04 2016 07:19 Calix wrote: Given the general gist of the rules, it doesn't take a genius to assume that trying to host-confirm yourself is against the rules and the spirit of the game.
This is so typical of you, trying to use short-cuts because your play can't hold up under scrutiny.
I was going to use it as a plan B, boo. I never intended to base my play around it.
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On October 04 2016 07:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 07:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 07:00 Grackaroni wrote: Lol NU I think the rule is pretty well defined. I do not. Hence why I ask. I would like specific examples to know whether the rules prohibit me from being mod confirmed. rules? What about your honor as a player. I already know what this is about and it is superlame. superlame.
At least I know you're town now.
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Wow. We finally have a game where PL isn't discussed 30 posts in.
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I don't see you posting constructive ideas. You should start there.
And hint - I am town.
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And you think voting me is going to change that? Oh please. You know me better.
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There is no bluffing here for I am town. You only really see me stating I am town when I really am.
Yes, I have something to say about the chat: You've always said that I was an easy read for you. Why would you ever want to policy lynch me if that is the case?
Also, this weekend I started yet another movie marathon. Right now I have the sanity of Patrick fucking Bateman. Any title you would like to suggest I add to my play list?
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On October 04 2016 08:50 batsnacks wrote:
Oh yeah.
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You forgot to suggest a movie.
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And I intend on never using lines that auto-confirm me like "I am town" in my future games. I am tired of being bad.
Let's call this the last time I use it, mmk?
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Well then. Anybody else would like to suggest a movie?
I'll take you seriously when I see you lynching a scum, Calix. Until then I will use your snarky comments on my play as fertilizer for my garden.
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When I'm in the game, yeah.
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I have decided that Grackaroni is scum. I propose we lynch him today.
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Look, I know I'm bad, but would you please capitalize my initials? That's all I ask.
I can agree with your comment on Calix though I do not think it is alignment indicative. She often makes those fake activity and hypocritical posts about others posting no content as if making those posts was contributing. Mirrors are expensive in England. That is why she does not look at herself before reproaching something she does to someone else.
What makes you think that Calix's interaction with me was a push? I saw it more as a teasing/ego-boosting interaction personally.
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On October 04 2016 10:41 Grackaroni wrote: No don't kill Grackaroni I like that guy.
Ok, Grack is town then. Next up is Damdred. Damdred is scum.
On October 04 2016 11:57 Oatsmaster wrote: All of you need to stay up man. Useless pieces of American timezone shits
+ Show Spoiler +I feel you. I had a friend whom I met online who lived in Singapore. We could rarely talk because 12 hours separate our clocks.
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And with that final worthless posts I'm off to sleep.
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On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.
More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. I see what you did with my name, lul.
I'm concerned that Calix didn't question my BS confirm. She just went along with it and called me bad.
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On October 04 2016 19:02 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote: I really don't like what calix is trying to push here. Sure what nu is doing is super bad play and from first glance it looks scummy but it's not actually scummy. Why would scum post that he can be modconfirmed town? That makes 0 sense.
And now she's trying to push some stupid Lynch based on content but no one has done shit anyway. Fake activity How does one 'fake' activity? Either I am posting or I am not posting and it doesn't indicate jack shit about my alignment. I think the reason people are not following me is because they're not that familiar with NU. (aka, meta) He is prone to coming up with stupid plans/ gambits - him trying to get around the rules is NAI taken by itself because it's a part of how he plays. (I don't think it's noteworthy that anyone on this site reads it as townie as people play more conservatively here compared to our home site and thus are reading his actions from that mindset) When I first saw that post, I just laughed it off. Grack's comment made me reread and see how terrible it was as an entrance so I decided to push it. What I don't like is how his very first focus is on promoting himself as town using external factors. While saying "I can be mod-confirmed" is NAI by itself for him, his later posts make me think he is looking for a fallback in case he's called out for his sub-par posting. Look at his responses to me. They are underwhelming for him. Nothing substantial, just some self-aggrandizing comments, downplays my push on him, snark, bluffing about being town. (last two points come across as forced) If he steps it up then I'll reconsider but right now, I really do not like him and think everyone should read his filter with this in mind. I don't want people giving him a free pass for something which is not - in my opinion - out of his scum range. Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 18:34 justanothertownie wrote: I will have to refamiliarize myself with Stutters meta but so far he seems the scummiest to me. His filter consists exclusively of questions that lead nowhere and aren't followed up upon. Totally disconnected from the thread. He was pretty lurkish, unresponsive and making terrible posts in the last game we were in and he was town so not sure how AI that is for him. Will keep your point in mind though.
No, the gambits I pull off are always great. Doc claim in IC and the what-could've-been jailkeeper/citizen claim in GoT were fantastic WIFOM claims. You cannot take this away from me.
As I said, I did not plan on promoting myself as town using external factors this early. When I asked my question (For which I was warned by a non-host, wtf. Asking a question = breaking the rules here it seems), I did not expect to be questioned about it. My question was a legitimate one. I would not have given my motives this early on if it wasn't for Grack and Calax pushing that question against me. Like I am obvious town when I am town (and I am town). I can do just fine without gamebreaking shortcuts.
Question. What is my scum range?
Agree on Stutters. His early questions remind me of scum Eggy.
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On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.
If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.
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On October 04 2016 19:35 Holyflare wrote: Point out to me where he does this on your site and tries to abuse role pms to get mod confirmed and I'll believe you.
Otherwise you are madia.
I absolutely have no idea where she got that from. I never did anything of the sort.
On October 04 2016 19:38 Calix wrote: It literally says "no posting PMs from the host" - it's clear that it's against the rules. (it's also a common rule on the home site, it's not like he got mixed up there)
Being skeptical of something that he obviously cannot follow through with does not make me mafia.
No, it's not clear. Am I allowed to paraphrase what I received via PM? That is what is not clear. It's clear on our homesite. Rules state that we cannot quote PMs but may paraphrase them.
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On October 04 2016 20:23 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 20:07 Holyflare wrote: No, it's bull shit. He either has done a play like this or you think he's town.
Mafia don't know or can't know there's words or anything in a pm or whatever that can prove you're town. NU makes a play like that.
Either he's done something similar in a previous game or something like this where he's abused knowledge he can't have and he's been mafia or he's flat out town. Koshi has said something else that's "validated" the wording point too.
Your push is completely bull shit. Role PMs are on the first page, so surely the mafia know what they are? In case I wasn't being clear, no, he has not tried abusing role PMs in a previous game. Which I never said to begin with since I said that he's done stupid shit before. (when I said that, I was mainly referring to a game where he fake-claimed Friendly Neighbour as mafia + a couple of comments he's made before which made me think he would try something like this since the host can't confirm)
WHAT? REALLY? ALL THIS IS BASED ON A FAKE-CLAIM I DID AS MAFIA? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
That fake-claim revolved around a town player confirming he indeed was given the information that I was town which he did not. That has jack shit to do with hosts/PMs/rules. WTF is even your point, lmao? Why do you assume that I would only do it as scum?
Your most valid point is that Koshi is backing him up, so I am probably wrong here.
Since this is now the only thing happening, you should still keep pushing me about something non-PM related so that we have something to talk about.
tl;dr: I didn't think that through but I realise that looks like a cop-out so there's not much I can do there. lololol
On October 04 2016 20:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 20:02 Calix wrote: Your reading comprehension is exceptionally poor today, mate.
You must have read my long posts otherwise you wouldn't have found that comment and misrepresented my position like that. The idea is (and it took me way too long): nu (he directly asked to be called nu, everyone do it) did something that on the surface is townie behaviour - drawing attention to self / dumb plan type idea - but you voted for him.
I asked that my initials were capitalized ><
Also, Calix says that I'm easy to read as scum and that my play sucks... yet, she only scum-read me 1/3 times I was not town. Take her "OP meta-reads" with a grain of salt, pl0x.
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On October 04 2016 20:31 Calix wrote: I didn't find it townie because him trying to use a shortcut to confirm himself/ find scum/ etc is typical behaviour for him. Like he tries to find one or two things that 'confirm' people. Not great at explaining it.
(for example, he scum-hunts a lot via 'scum slips' - a look at his first game on here shows that)
And I didn't think the host would confirm it (obviously) so with that in mind alongside the fact that posting PMs is obviously against the rules, I found it questionable.
God, the idea was to make the hosts say what is not allowed, so I could mod-confirm myself with what isn't not allowed (though obviously it is against the spirit of the game.). They wouldn't be able to modkill me because I would have maneuvered around the things they established were punishable.
That was the idea. Besides, looking scummy as blue is good sometimes.
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On October 04 2016 20:46 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 20:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.
More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. I see what you did with my name, lul. I'm concerned that Calix didn't question my BS confirm. She just went along with it and called me bad. Wait what?
Wasn't up-to-date when I made that post. Still, I was referring to saying "I'm town". You did not question this. That's the BS confirm I referred to.
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On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ?
She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine.
I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'.
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On October 04 2016 21:04 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 20:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:02 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote: I really don't like what calix is trying to push here. Sure what nu is doing is super bad play and from first glance it looks scummy but it's not actually scummy. Why would scum post that he can be modconfirmed town? That makes 0 sense.
And now she's trying to push some stupid Lynch based on content but no one has done shit anyway. Fake activity How does one 'fake' activity? Either I am posting or I am not posting and it doesn't indicate jack shit about my alignment. I think the reason people are not following me is because they're not that familiar with NU. (aka, meta) He is prone to coming up with stupid plans/ gambits - him trying to get around the rules is NAI taken by itself because it's a part of how he plays. (I don't think it's noteworthy that anyone on this site reads it as townie as people play more conservatively here compared to our home site and thus are reading his actions from that mindset) When I first saw that post, I just laughed it off. Grack's comment made me reread and see how terrible it was as an entrance so I decided to push it. What I don't like is how his very first focus is on promoting himself as town using external factors. While saying "I can be mod-confirmed" is NAI by itself for him, his later posts make me think he is looking for a fallback in case he's called out for his sub-par posting. Look at his responses to me. They are underwhelming for him. Nothing substantial, just some self-aggrandizing comments, downplays my push on him, snark, bluffing about being town. (last two points come across as forced) If he steps it up then I'll reconsider but right now, I really do not like him and think everyone should read his filter with this in mind. I don't want people giving him a free pass for something which is not - in my opinion - out of his scum range. On October 04 2016 18:34 justanothertownie wrote: I will have to refamiliarize myself with Stutters meta but so far he seems the scummiest to me. His filter consists exclusively of questions that lead nowhere and aren't followed up upon. Totally disconnected from the thread. He was pretty lurkish, unresponsive and making terrible posts in the last game we were in and he was town so not sure how AI that is for him. Will keep your point in mind though. No, the gambits I pull off are always great. Doc claim in IC and the what-could've-been jailkeeper/citizen claim in GoT were fantastic WIFOM claims. You cannot take this away from me. As I said, I did not plan on promoting myself as town using external factors this early. When I asked my question (For which I was warned by a non-host, wtf. Asking a question = breaking the rules here it seems), I did not expect to be questioned about it. My question was a legitimate one. I would not have given my motives this early on if it wasn't for Grack and Calax pushing that question against me. Like I am obvious town when I am town (and I am town). I can do just fine without gamebreaking shortcuts. Question. What is my scum range? Agree on Stutters. His early questions remind me of scum Eggy. Think you mean a co-host?
No. I meant what I meant. A non-host. A dude whose name isn't on the first page.
It was a stupid fucking question even though I took it way out of proportion. Moving on since that's established...
Scum range = behaviours that you are capable of doing as scum. If you're asking what your scum range is then that's hard to define.
That is what I was asking.
Hard to define? If you cannot define my scum range, why are you saying that I am an easy read as scum?
(not gonna lie, I was suspecting that you had discussed strategy with Duck which speaks for itself. Not that anyone here is going to know what I'm rabbiting on about there)
I did not.
Anyone else pinging you?
Not very much as you can see. I hope you don't think this is personal again...
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On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta. Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do. I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question. People start to town-read you for your question. I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself. Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta" So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know.
Put that way my point looks dumb. Still feel uneasy about you saying I look for shortcuts often (NAI)and associating a scum-read to it. I don't even know what shortcuts you are referring to.
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On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote: Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?
You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable. I town-read you.
What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd.
I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche?
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On October 04 2016 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote: NU, is calix mafia? ##vote superbia Calix the fake activity is refering to you being mafia and just pushing shit for the sake of creating posts.
Nu, can you explain why stutters is mafia? I am not very good at reading Calix, frankly. So far I am one who thinks she is town.
PSA: Nothing stops you guys from reading me or Calix on your own. Putting blind faith in either of our reads is not optimal. As I said, despite Calix bragging on how easy she can scum-read me, she only scum-read me 1/3 times I rolled a non-town role.
Woah, no, I cannot for I never said he was mafia. I agreed with the point about his questions and posts being irrelevant to the current game, and said it reminded me of some guys' scum play on my homesite. Yes, he is scummy for what he has done so far, no, it does not make him mafia alone.
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On October 04 2016 21:38 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote: Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?
You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable. I town-read you. What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd. I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche? Being a hypocrite is detracting from the main point. You're not the slightest bit suspicious of my god-awful push on you this morning? Why?
I have low expectations for you. Mislynch is your nickname after all.
Somehow I read that push as a town push. Your scum play is more conclusive and "No, I am right"y than this.
On October 04 2016 21:33 Calix wrote: Also no shit your point 'looks' dumb. It's fucking retarded. Calix
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On October 04 2016 21:44 Calix wrote:Actually I'm calling bullshit here. NU says that 'what I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd' Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote: Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?
You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable. I town-read you. What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd. I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche? ...yet he makes these posts in his catch-up where he clearly has concerns and doubts about my posts. This strikes me as inconsistent. Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 20:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.
More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. I see what you did with my name, lul. I'm concerned that Calix didn't question my BS confirm. She just went along with it and called me bad. Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ? She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine. I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'. Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:31 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta. Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do. I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question. People start to town-read you for your question. I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself. Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta" So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know. Put that way my point looks dumb. Still feel uneasy about you saying I look for shortcuts often (NAI)and associating a scum-read to it. I don't even know what shortcuts you are referring to. Where is the contradiction?
Your posts don't strike me as odd AI-wise, but I am concerned with the points you are missing.
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On October 04 2016 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol wtf you guys played like less than 10 games together and profess to be able to read each other one post into the game, come on man.
6 games together, 7 games if you count the game she coached me.
She never said she was "able to read [me] one post into the game". Neither have I. Where did you get this from? All she said is that I was an easy read for her (which, again, is not necessarily true) and that I always was the first one lynched as mafia.
I don't make anything out of this. Calix is just that person with a massive ego. While she is as tall as Peter Dinklage IRL, her ego is as big as Robert Downey Jr.
Calix that's really soft. Why can't I vote for superbia? Am I gonna lose my vote? No. Am I free to vote again? Yes.
That is not what she said.
You are contradicting yourself by saying that Calix appears scummy to you, yet, you vote Superbia whom you made no comment on.
So why is my vote even alignment indicative when there are still more than 24 hours to Lynch? I would like to hear this. Really, really, really defensive here. Calix never said your vote was AI.
3 "reality twists" in one post.
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On October 04 2016 21:49 batsnacks wrote: NU why does Calix's things strike you as town things are you just saying that to look tough
Ugh, you won't like my explanation. I'm bad at defending town-reads.
Tone. Confidence. Not-scummy.
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On October 04 2016 21:51 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:44 Calix wrote:Actually I'm calling bullshit here. NU says that 'what I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd' On October 04 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote: Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?
You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable. I town-read you. What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd. I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche? ...yet he makes these posts in his catch-up where he clearly has concerns and doubts about my posts. This strikes me as inconsistent. On October 04 2016 20:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.
More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. I see what you did with my name, lul. I'm concerned that Calix didn't question my BS confirm. She just went along with it and called me bad. On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ? She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine. I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'. On October 04 2016 21:31 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta. Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do. I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question. People start to town-read you for your question. I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself. Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta" So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know. Put that way my point looks dumb. Still feel uneasy about you saying I look for shortcuts often (NAI)and associating a scum-read to it. I don't even know what shortcuts you are referring to. Where is the contradiction? Your posts don't strike me as odd AI-wise, but I am concerned with the points you are missing. Wait, so your posts where you accuse me of "forcing a read on you" and say that I "still make you uneasy" AREN'T things that you find odd???
Ah. I did contradict myself.
Well, I think you are town now. So check this:
IC 540
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On October 04 2016 22:01 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:59 Calix wrote: Anyone want Superbia to play for the game that he fucking signed up for? Or do people want him to promise to contribute but not actually bother? Btw Calix, I am curious. What was the "Superbia stole my laptop" about?
C'mon, it was a great joke. I'm disappointed you did not get it.
It was about posting one-liners in a quick succession, like you did in HM3.
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On October 04 2016 21:58 Superbia wrote: Anyone want spoilers yet? Or do people want to figure this game out for themselves?
If you have valuable information, spoil me by any means.
On October 04 2016 22:00 Superbia wrote: For serious though. There's a decent meta reason why I want to stay in the sidelines (as town—but also regardless of alignment) d1.
I would like to know what reason it is that is preventing you from being useful, but if I ask and the reason is actually valid, then your "lurking.exe" program will get a runtime error. Is it something I should know?
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On October 04 2016 22:04 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 22:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:51 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 21:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:44 Calix wrote:Actually I'm calling bullshit here. NU says that 'what I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd' On October 04 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote: Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?
You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable. I town-read you. What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd. I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche? ...yet he makes these posts in his catch-up where he clearly has concerns and doubts about my posts. This strikes me as inconsistent. On October 04 2016 20:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.
More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. I see what you did with my name, lul. I'm concerned that Calix didn't question my BS confirm. She just went along with it and called me bad. On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ? She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine. I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'. On October 04 2016 21:31 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta. Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do. I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question. People start to town-read you for your question. I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself. Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta" So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know. Put that way my point looks dumb. Still feel uneasy about you saying I look for shortcuts often (NAI)and associating a scum-read to it. I don't even know what shortcuts you are referring to. Where is the contradiction? Your posts don't strike me as odd AI-wise, but I am concerned with the points you are missing. Wait, so your posts where you accuse me of "forcing a read on you" and say that I "still make you uneasy" AREN'T things that you find odd??? Ah. I did contradict myself. Well, I think you are town now. So check this: IC 540 I thought I was town to begin with? Your progression is muddled and I don't follow it. Why are you asking me about ice cream? lmao
*giggles* I town-read you since this morning, not from the beginning.
Shucks.
lmaoooooooooo. Think of it like that thing Mesk does in her first posts as town.
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On October 04 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 22:07 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:58 Superbia wrote: Anyone want spoilers yet? Or do people want to figure this game out for themselves? If you have valuable information, spoil me by any means. On October 04 2016 22:00 Superbia wrote: For serious though. There's a decent meta reason why I want to stay in the sidelines (as town—but also regardless of alignment) d1. I would like to know what reason it is that is preventing you from being useful, but if I ask and the reason is actually valid, then your "lurking.exe" program will get a runtime error. Is it something I should know? How much % of the mafia team do you want?
We already have Stutters, so 66%.
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On October 04 2016 22:11 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 22:10 Calix wrote: Superbia, just spit it out instead of wasting time and posts with promising stuff -_- Wow! I am hurt. HF. Palmar. 66.67%
Damn, you beat me with the 66%.
I do not agree with Palmar.
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Oats is a good contender too.
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jat I think is of the town alignment
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Quick shitpost to make sure I have more posts than Calix.
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On October 04 2016 22:21 Superbia wrote: This buddying is making me a little iffy.
You want in?
Calix, did you get the essence of the code? Would be nice to have a bond for when we town-read each other over here. Kind of like the one I have with Mesk where we speak in phonetic and broken French so that our talk cannot be translated. Hmm?
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Another question I ask myself is why would you kill a lurker N1?
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On October 04 2016 22:40 batsnacks wrote: Also check out this skit I'm imagining
Mafia Calix goes after Mafia NU for dumb PM BS People are town reading Mafia NU, Mafia Calix is going in too hard and getting heat They buddy up and everything is suddenly fine after almost 24 hours of Calix scum reading NU for NAI reasons
Pretty good right?
Good skit. However, I think you are not giving me enough spotlight in it. You know, to make a skit successful, you have to appeal to gender codes. I propose that Mafia Calix is in so much heat that she is about to be lynched... when, suddenly, heroic Mafia NU comes to her rescue by buddying her. All of the assaillants back off the victim in fear of manly NU's wrath. Mafia NU drops Mafia Calix on a cozy hay bed on which she prays Jesus for sending NU to her rescue. Mafia NU leads charge against Town Oatsmaster who finds himself eating rope moments after.
The end.
That's a much better skit.
Sadly it's fiction as Mafia NU is not aboard the Cruise trip.
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On October 04 2016 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 22:50 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 22:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 04 2016 22:26 Calix wrote: Like if you think that WIFOM is going to work out for you then you're going to have a bad time.
Explain yourself or eat rope. Clearly I'm coming here and trying to get superbia to actually post relevant stuff so I can get a read on him that isnt predicated on his horrible first 2 posts. To do this I don't actually need to vote in the voting thread. You guys need to get it out of your heads that voting is alignment indicative. The only place it's alignment indicative is when it's the vote to Lynch someone or to Lynch some else that djdnt actually get lynched. That's detracting from the initial issue. Nobody was objecting to a Superbia vote. We were calling you out on saying that I was scummy while voting for someone else. The fact that the person is Superbia is 0% relevant. And yes, votes are not AI unless you know what some of the flips are. Thanks mate. On October 04 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 04 2016 22:44 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 04 2016 22:25 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 04 2016 22:17 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote: I don't see what is there to explain calix, I want to vote for him.
I really don't see what is hard to understand man.
Same to you nu. Why the fuck is who my vote on important now. Calix asked me why I didn't vote for her basically and she clearly thinks it's alignment indicative or else why would she ask me me about it.
What the fuck kind of logic is that? You ask questions to pry into someone's thought processes which you are STILL NOT EXPLAINING. You stated "Calix is scummy" You voted for Superbia. You did not state a scum-read on Superbia. Why the fuck are you not explaining your vote? If it's 'lul randum xD' then why are you random-voting over a scum-read? Obviously I think super is scummy and obviously I dont think it's worth explaining a read on him just yet. Can you propose a reason why I would do this as scum? Can you explain why you are doing it as town? I don't have a fucking clue what you are trying to achieve here, dude. It makes no sense to throw down a 'vote' without actually voting and then refusing to explain it, since this draws a stupid amount of attention to you, but you are also aware of this (like I was earlier) so that weakens the argument a little. So as it stands, my reasoning for both alignments is "you're an idiot" You're welcome for this incisive analysis. In your opinion, after his first 2 posts what did you read superbia as? This is going somewhere, please assist I can't help you out much, lol. I didn't have a read on him with those posts because he said he was planning on lurking on Day 1 in the pre-game so while repeating that is redundant, I just read them as generic "check-in" posts. Come on you can do better than that. So he makes generic check in posts when it's at least 10 pages of stuff he could actually comment on but he chooses not to? What does that initially say about his alignment? Why don't you just tell us what you're getting at instead of trying to prompt me into saying things for you? I can see the leading questions from a mile off. I've already said that I think those posts are NAI by themselves, the end. Spit it out or piss off. I said my point already. Im not explaining my vote because I'm not trying to get other people to vote for superbia. Is that so hard to understand? The vote is to pressure superbia and it's only for him.
Calling a vote a pressure vote kills its intent.
Do you have actual reads?
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On October 04 2016 22:57 Oatsmaster wrote: I really don't understand why you expect me to pour all my thoughts out into the game.
Right? People who ask others to explain themselves in a 'talking game' are completely insane!
Is it not obvious that when I vote for someone it's because I think they are scummy?
You just said it was a pressure vote...
So I have to say "xx is scummy vote xx" before voting? That's ludicrous.
Unless you don't want xx lynched, yes.
And it says absolutely nothing about my alignment. So far in this game you have proceed with 2 ridiculous pushes. Being defensive again.
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On October 04 2016 22:58 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 22:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 22:40 batsnacks wrote: Also check out this skit I'm imagining
Mafia Calix goes after Mafia NU for dumb PM BS People are town reading Mafia NU, Mafia Calix is going in too hard and getting heat They buddy up and everything is suddenly fine after almost 24 hours of Calix scum reading NU for NAI reasons
Pretty good right? Good skit. However, I think you are not giving me enough spotlight in it. You know, to make a skit successful, you have to appeal to gender codes. I propose that Mafia Calix is in so much heat that she is about to be lynched... when, suddenly, heroic Mafia NU comes to her rescue by buddying her. All of the assaillants back off the victim in fear of manly NU's wrath. Mafia NU drops Mafia Calix on a cozy hay bed on which she prays Jesus for sending NU to her rescue. Mafia NU leads charge against Town Oatsmaster who finds himself eating rope moments after. The end. That's a much better skit. Sadly it's fiction as Mafia NU is not aboard the Cruise trip. So oats is town, yeah? He may be. If he is, I'm not ever calling myself bad again.
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On October 04 2016 23:00 Calix wrote: I don't know if Oats is mafia. There was one post he made a while back which I felt was kind-of town.
Other than that, I don't understand him whatsoever.
Would you kindly quote that one post?
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On October 04 2016 23:17 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 23:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 22:58 batsnacks wrote:On October 04 2016 22:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 22:40 batsnacks wrote: Also check out this skit I'm imagining
Mafia Calix goes after Mafia NU for dumb PM BS People are town reading Mafia NU, Mafia Calix is going in too hard and getting heat They buddy up and everything is suddenly fine after almost 24 hours of Calix scum reading NU for NAI reasons
Pretty good right? Good skit. However, I think you are not giving me enough spotlight in it. You know, to make a skit successful, you have to appeal to gender codes. I propose that Mafia Calix is in so much heat that she is about to be lynched... when, suddenly, heroic Mafia NU comes to her rescue by buddying her. All of the assaillants back off the victim in fear of manly NU's wrath. Mafia NU drops Mafia Calix on a cozy hay bed on which she prays Jesus for sending NU to her rescue. Mafia NU leads charge against Town Oatsmaster who finds himself eating rope moments after. The end. That's a much better skit. Sadly it's fiction as Mafia NU is not aboard the Cruise trip. So oats is town, yeah? He may be. If he is, I'm not ever calling myself bad again. why don't you think oats is Mafia? Um, that's not what I think. I've him lean-scum. What I implied in that post you quoted is that he may be town. When criticised about his Superbia vote, he did not back off. He stubbornly thought what he was doing was right which I associate with town.
Also, I feel bad for the guy. I just read that Singapore had forced military service for two years. Why though? Who would attack a 5 million people country that is 700 km (squared)?
Poor Oatsy.
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On October 04 2016 23:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ? She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine. I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'. maybe shit power wolves where you come from. They're almost unheard of where I come from. Lurk scums are the most common ones.
here people have brains (he says tentatively)
tumblewood
like seriously, no-one is going to lynch someone at someone's word like that without asking for proof. i'm shocked anyone at your homesite would get away with it because "please show me evidence" is pretty strong tictac
They wouldn't get away with it I don't think.
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Uh.
I did not understand this
like seriously, no-one is going to lynch someone at someone's word like that without asking for proof. i'm shocked anyone at your homesite would get away with it because "please show me evidence" is pretty strong tictac
in that case.
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On October 04 2016 23:28 marvellosity wrote: like my question was 100% legit, if i start making shit up about someone i know well on here, i'm gonna get called out on it and it's a lot more trouble than its worth
hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove
that's why i ask the question
This I don't understand either.
I don't know what's the question you're referring to.
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On October 05 2016 00:26 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 00:14 batsnacks wrote: Calix said that there was no specific evidence she could produce for NU abusing PMs as Mafia, even though she implied NU did this as Mafia before Holyflare said "produce evidence or die"
Those events happened in that order. Maybe Mafia Holyflare knowingly issued Calix an impossible task to make the narrative for Calix being Mafia stronger? Anyway that's what I was thinking hopefully it makes sense. Quote the posts please. I explicitly said that I had no specific evidence after HF's last post iirc. On another note, Palmar is underwhelming as fuck so far. Wouldn't mind policy-lynching him.
No, this post was not against you. It was against HF. Read snacks's post again. It's about HF being aware that what he is asking you is impossible for you to deliver, thus making you appear mafia.
offski
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On October 05 2016 01:14 Palmar wrote: this #number thing instead of quotes has got to stop.
Man, Plamar makes the same type of posts he made in HM3.
He was scum in that game.
On October 05 2016 01:52 Calix wrote: I'm not reaching. I'm just an impatient person.
What's the point of saying you would have mod-killed NU? lol
"I'm not reaching. This is why I reached."
On October 05 2016 04:23 Superbia wrote: Why do people think I'm scummy?
They think you are a nocent lurker. :3
What do you think on that matter?
On October 05 2016 04:57 Calix wrote: Seeing HF using actual logic in his posts is incredibly weird.
Then he ruins it with some annoying meta push on Grack which ignores batsnacks' scummy posts.
I'll take the baby steps though.
Where did HF use logic?
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On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote: There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine.
That post was outrageously tmi. I think Superbia is town.
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Hyberbole flare is exaggerating every point he makes. He is clearly painting others as scum.
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On October 05 2016 06:39 Calix wrote: As a tip, I'd recommend not posting as you catch up in the future. It just dredges up outdated information.
I have to. You now have more posts than me. Every post I can make I will make.
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On October 05 2016 06:42 Calix wrote: Dude, I'm being serious. Don't clog up the chat with bullshit.
HF exaggerating shit...what would you call his horrendous TT push in HM then? lol
No, they are very distinct pushes. When I look at HM3 and this game, I see two very different HF. I may (and should) elaborate later if I have the time to do so. I will have to go radio silent soon for probably the remainder of D1.
I suggest you reread his cases on you and Super.
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On October 05 2016 06:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote: There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine.
That post was outrageously tmi. I think Superbia is town. Yes and that is why I am voting batsnacks. *clap clap*
"There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town"
Yet you agree with me that Superbia is town? Big contradiction. Nowhere have you let hints of your read progression on SUper before now.
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On October 05 2016 06:49 Holyflare wrote: There's nothing wrong with either of those "cases", both based on legit good points, both dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light.
It's called playing mafia, you should try it bro. Would like to. Only I rolled town.
What has "dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light" have to do with the legitimacy/validity of your "cases"?
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I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.
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On October 05 2016 06:58 Holyflare wrote:Explain plz.
He's fucking hilarious.
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On October 05 2016 07:06 Calix wrote: I was hoping for a more incisive counterargument to batsnacks being scum.
Me too. I re-read his filter and only found 3-4 posts I liked/felt a town tone. He had just as many, if not more, scummy posts. I do not know if he is town anymore.
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On October 05 2016 05:58 batsnacks wrote:I was just thinking jat can be mafia though. There were some moments, one where Carix was yelling at super, where he's maybe been egging bad town behavior. Like this is one Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 05:05 Calix wrote: You are either being incredibly childish or you're scum throwing a temper tantrum.
Either way, it can be fixed with a rope. Top post. That's not the first one I just don't want to find the rest.
I don't like that his only expressed scum-read is worded like this (bold). Other than that "can be mafia", the dude has no scum-read.
I like how he calls Calix "Carix" though.
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On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote: I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out.
This post feels genuine and really makes me think BS (Funny initials) is town.
On October 05 2016 05:30 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 05:13 Damdred wrote: @Batsnack how am I just trying to jump on people who are gathering steam when u was one of the firsts to scum read you essentially? Which you are still super sideline atm not even really interested in making conclusions on super vs everyone atm? I think superbia is frustrated town would seem consistent with his play the rest of today. He threw out HF and Palmar as names initially and didn't want to explain why for fear of critical people, critical people end up barking at him anyway which is totally his fault but his reactions check out.I thought marv and superbia were equally obtuse to each other earlier marv was just better at spinning it and it got exacerbated by the fact that superbia was being difficult prior.
This post mirrors one of the reasons why I think Superbia is town.
Following are posts which I found town because of the tone and the legitimacy of the original points BS makes. (In the Calix-BS, Super-BS, DDD-BS interactions)
On October 04 2016 21:41 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote: This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta. Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do. I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question. People start to town-read you for your question. I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself. Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta" So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know. Weirdly defensive post I keep thinking there should be enough activity from Calix by now to have some opinion of their alignment but I'm having trouble coming up with anything. Most of calix's contributions are game mechanics inspired I could see them coming from any angle or alignment. And there are a couple of these "at least we're talking about something I'm okay with that" statements from Calix that show an awareness that they're "contributing" to the game. Like maybe Mafia Calix is intentionally choosing to talk about things that are easy to fake perspectives on.
I was thinking that the Calix-NU exchange should feel town-town if they are both town and familiar with each other , and I'm getting town vibes from NU not from Calix though they're null.
On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote: I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out. I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me. Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz. your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice.
On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote: Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.
I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.
Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.
I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were. The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you On October 05 2016 04:31 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 04:17 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote: I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out. I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me. Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz. your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice. If that's the case, why haven't you tried harder to push the few points that you do have? You just dropped some fantastical theories including gems such as NU and myself hard-core distancing ourselves. You show zero conviction in what you say which strikes me as un-town-like. On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote: Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.
I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.
Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.
I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were. The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you Explain how being defensive is a scum tell. I explicitly stated that I was inquiring about the quotes you were using as I was aware that you were referring to HF. You couldn't have missed that as I made that comment right after NU pointed this out. Listen, unless someone else is getting anything useful out of this dumb shit fight I'm just going to ignore you because I feel like I'm wasting my time. I didn't say you did anything scummy I don't think you're Mafia, I said your similarly dumb argument with NU is NAI. That your exchange with NU seemed null vs town to me, I don't think it is outrageous for me to think this as any alignment. Your case on me is fine, I'll take harder stances on stuff if stuff comes up, if not I can live with you being right about me for now.
On October 05 2016 05:10 batsnacks wrote: Hey off work I got to a computer for a bit Damdred can we talk about your read on me. I considered what you said some more and I don't know yet if I believe you believe I'm the best lynch. I'm worried you could just be trying to jump on people that you think are gathering steam.
Finally, this:
On October 04 2016 08:50 batsnacks wrote:
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I am unsure how I feel about the guy. Logic tells me he's null for not having any scum-reads (and his only one being based on a questionable tell) while gut tells me he's town for his tone.
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On October 04 2016 19:32 Calix wrote: And of course everyone decides to go into hibernation when I pop online. Figures.
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Please expand on your DDD and JAT reads. Try not using meta if you can.
Why is your Palmar read based pretty much solely on what Marv said about him?
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On October 05 2016 08:10 NeverUnlucky wrote: Please expand on your DDD and JAT reads. Try not using meta if you can.
Why is your Palmar read based pretty much solely on what Marv said about him?
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On October 05 2016 08:33 batsnacks wrote: Hey I'm gonna catch the debates soon so
Ugh, I can already sense it's going to be a bore. Neither Pence nor Kaine has charisma.
I'd rather wait for Sunday's presidential debate.
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On October 05 2016 08:30 batsnacks wrote:This was the damdred game I read sort of recently where his line of questioning at the beginning seems slower and different http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/3255-Season-3-Final-Game-The-Koopa-TroopI'm not super current on anyone's meta here but damdred's sudden entrance, sudden conclusions without the early questions, and his conclusions being a lot different than mine could suggest an agenda.
Having different conclusions in no way suggests an agenda, lol.
Your DDD read is purely based on meta. Sudden entrance/sudden conclusions (Which I haven't personally noticed) are not AI.
This read feels like a weasel read.
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On October 05 2016 08:18 batsnacks wrote: jat was on the ground floor with NU vs Calix, said later that he has "0 idea why anyone [Superbia] would find that fight interesting." He's been there a few times egging Calix on when what Calix was doing at the time was at best anti town.
I know I'm speaking as someone who himself is guilty of not taking stances but jat is also there sort of directing traffic a lot of the time and similarly not taking stances.
"Who himself is guilty" Interesting choice of words...
I agree that JAT has acted like a passenger so far.
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On October 05 2016 08:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 08:18 batsnacks wrote: jat was on the ground floor with NU vs Calix, said later that he has "0 idea why anyone [Superbia] would find that fight interesting." He's been there a few times egging Calix on when what Calix was doing at the time was at best anti town.
I know I'm speaking as someone who himself is guilty of not taking stances but jat is also there sort of directing traffic a lot of the time and similarly not taking stances. "Who himself is guilty" Interesting choice of words... I agree that JAT has acted like a passenger so far.
I really had to try hard not to use the word "scumslip" there.
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On October 05 2016 09:19 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me. What are those reasons?
Complacency
Acting too nice
Making closed posts ie not open for discussion
(Didn't happen this game yet, but his actions and reads were all self-centered)
Reads not conclusive
His stances are late (Not really here. Different context)
Safe reads
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On October 05 2016 09:35 Grackaroni wrote: I'm filtering because I don't want to read through the Calix/NU posts because I'm pretty confident they're both town.
You're missing out on certain interactions then.
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On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.
Interpret this the way you like.
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On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me. Interpret this the way you like. That is all you'll get.
I assume you have reads on the most active players as well. Care to share them?
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On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me. Interpret this the way you like. No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read. Funny considering you have not pronounced yourself on that matter.
I did not see you commenting on the HF, DDD, nor Grack.
Also, have you done your military service? And why would the government make it mandatory when the country has no threatening enemy?
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[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote: [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 11:01 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote: [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.[/QUOTE]
Interpret this the way you like.[/QUOTE] No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read. [/QUOTE] Funny considering you have not pronounced yourself on that matter.
I did not see you commenting on the HF, DDD, nor Grack.
Also, have you done your military service? And why would the government make it mandatory when the country has no threatening enemy?[/QUOTE] I think damdred pretty null for me.
Huzzah! See, you cannot decide whether he is town or scum either. [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote: [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.[/QUOTE]
Interpret this the way you like.[/QUOTE] No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read. [/QUOTE] [quote] Grack scummy, hf is also scummy. hes weirdly defensive and his tone is a bit off. [/quote]
Exactly.
Dunno about Grack. He's been pretty \0 so far. What makes you think he is scummy?
[quote]Im in the middle of it right now lol. It's mandatory because any country could just invade, Singapore has quite a lot of value in terms of its location + it's a mainly Chinese country in the middle of Malay countries. So it's more for deterrence now. [/QUOTE]
I guess that makes sense, especially historically.
Although if any country wanted to invade Singapore, a 5 million people city/country, I guess they would have already done it by now. You almost have more chance of fending off assailants with Durian's smell than with manpower, lol.
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Oh, boy, that was ugly. "EBWOP":
I think damdred pretty null for me.
Huzzah! See, you cannot decide whether he is town or scum either. On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote: No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.
Grack scummy, hf is also scummy. hes weirdly defensive and his tone is a bit off.
Exactly.
Dunno about Grack. He's been pretty \0 so far. What makes you think he is scummy?
Im in the middle of it right now lol. It's mandatory because any country could just invade, Singapore has quite a lot of value in terms of its location + it's a mainly Chinese country in the middle of Malay countries. So it's more for deterrence now.
I guess that makes sense, especially historically.
Although if any country wanted to invade Singapore, a 5 million people city/country, I guess they would have already done it by now. You almost have more chance of fending off assailants with Durian's smell than with manpower, lol.
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On October 05 2016 11:19 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:49 Holyflare wrote: There's nothing wrong with either of those "cases", both based on legit good points, both dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light.
It's called playing mafia, you should try it bro. Also hf doesn't have much emotional attachment to his pushes, that's weird.
He's scum. That simple.
Heading off. May not be able to be online at EoD.
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Also, I like Oats' posts. Town-read for me.
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Calix, I understand where your idea came from. NU - Aroith case. Not a FM game.
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I have the same conclusion s as cypherbia on grasp and bats. I think they are town.
I would Lynch jat 10 times before voting bats. Jat s defense on #811 ( can't quote from phone) was him saying that his play this game corresponds to his town meta. This is a prime example of a scum being aware of his town palsy and trying to replicate it.
Also, calix, why Re you using the bats. Jat interaction against bats? Jat defense of bats makes jat and jat only scummy.
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On October 05 2016 23:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 21:26 Palmar wrote: I don't like Calix all that much. I was super impressed with her when I was mafia, but I don't think her approach this game is nearly as good. Maybe it's because I'm not aware of whether or not she's being clever (you tend to overestimate townies when you're scum) but who knows.
Calix's tone is too aggressive/lecturey for me to be paying that much attention to her posts You're soft
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Calix dw about 791. I'm studying health science
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On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote: NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo.
re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. That is not the conclusion I was drawing. I do not use preflips d1. I was only questioning your approach on the matter.
You have not pushed me. That shit was based on a pl joke.
I did not like your latest posts (currently at p46 and posting from phone and shittiest Subway wifi NA)
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On October 05 2016 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 23:41 NeverUnlucky wrote: I have the same conclusion s as cypherbia on grasp and bats. I think they are town.
I would Lynch jat 10 times before voting bats. Jat s defense on #811 ( can't quote from phone) was him saying that his play this game corresponds to his town meta. This is a prime example of a scum being aware of his town palsy and trying to replicate it.
Also, calix, why Re you using the bats. Jat interaction against bats? Jat defense of bats makes jat and jat only scummy.
No, this is a prime example of someone getting scumread for playing his townmeta. Your logic doesn't work. "He says he is playing his townmeta so obviously he is just trying to replicate it". Retarded. If you don't believe me you can easily check if I am telling the truth. Lmao. You are proving my point. You think simply playing aling your town meta should warrant a town read. That's what scum thinks. Town just plays the way they want, not bring worries of following a certain predefined meta.
Justanotherscum
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On October 06 2016 00:30 Palmar wrote: Calix is 100% mafia Déjà vu...
On October 05 2016 23:49 Calix wrote: I'm going out in ~30 minutes, going to be out for a few hours and then I'm in for the evening. Generally my schedule is light because I'm at uni but today is busy for me so I might not get back before you leave. Your schedule is light because you study english
Also stop being bad
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On October 06 2016 02:09 Holyflare wrote: That's not what he's saying at all. It is exactly what he is saying. I changed the angle of my phone to see his post from a different perspective, and it was still the same message.
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On October 06 2016 02:16 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 02:10 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 00:30 Palmar wrote: Calix is 100% mafia Déjà vu... On October 05 2016 23:49 Calix wrote: I'm going out in ~30 minutes, going to be out for a few hours and then I'm in for the evening. Generally my schedule is light because I'm at uni but today is busy for me so I might not get back before you leave. Your schedule is light because you study english Also stop being bad remember who he voted for last time day 1? that was mafia! Hmm mmmmmmmmmmmmm?
He voted for the ticktock then switched to tw. What's your point?
I've caught up now.
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Jat Damdy Stutters Hf
Planar Bats
In order of Lynch preference. Stutters can be first actually. Barely been there and was scummy when he was there.
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On October 06 2016 02:23 Grackaroni wrote: Let us begin the charge, my minions. Glory and riches await. Whose kingdom shall we raid first?
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I'm almost inclined of choosing you just because your latest posts were boring.
Also, this false dichotomy you are setting up has been noticed by yours truly NU.
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The sole fact that you are pushing him makes me think he's town.
I won't vote you because you are an obvious town. I will smite bats backs if I have a computer at hand at did. My tr of you is greater than my tone read of bats.
Though stutters should be guillotined today
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Jat, just a tip - if you ever want to call someone's play subpart, make sure your play is semi-dexent beforehand.
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On October 06 2016 02:44 Calix wrote: How the FUCK does that make any sense?
Your town-read is pushing someone so you town-read that player based on the push?
WTF It makes sense because you cannot ever sr a mafia. If you sr bats, he's town. Just a reputation thing.
Also, your birthday is passed, so I have no interest to Lynch you.
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On October 06 2016 02:44 Koshi wrote: I think Calix/nu/batsnacks and Grack are all town. Mafia is within Superbia/HF/Palmar/JAT.
Problem is. How do I proof this. NU agrees with Koshi. Though replace super with stutters.
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On October 06 2016 02:47 Calix wrote: That is 100% retarded and a cop-out of voting for batsnacks. You haven't even used his posts to show how he's town. My gut town reads have always been accurate. Call it retarded, idc.
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On October 06 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote:I'm up for a superbia shenanigan Stutters or I'm out.
Calix stop being bad
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Super Calix Oats Koshi Obv town
Track Bats Gut town
Marv Plam Null
Rest Scum read
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On October 06 2016 02:51 Calix wrote: Stutters is a coin flip. I have no interest in policy-lynching him today over ACTUAL scum-reads. I told you to stop.
Bats is town.
Stutters was scum when he was there.
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Explain DDD and Marv. I do not see it.
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Good, Tunnelix starting to see what's actually happening.
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On October 06 2016 02:58 Calix wrote: Damdred is 100% because of mind melds. I agreed with most of what he posted.
This is going to sound dumb, but I think Marv has town-tone. Haven't read his filter in a while but I have gotten good vibes from his posting so haven't considered it a priority. But your reads are off. If he thinks like you and not PUSHING his reads, hr is scum.
Would have to reread him later
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On October 06 2016 02:59 Calix wrote: What are you talking about, NU? Finally see that hf is scummy. And listening to my read on bats.
Um, I need to take this lunch break to eat, so I'm dropping off indefinitely.
Do not Lynch super nor track nor calix. I would take a shot in the dark and kill stuts tbh.
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On October 06 2016 05:07 Calix wrote: I agree that it's annoying that I am offering a better defense of Palmar than the actual fucking player is.
No. You are opposed to his lynch, but you are not defending him. That's an over characterization of what you're doing.
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I did not like Bats' recent defense. What I read was a deflection on Calix and a JAS defense. The dude never even stated he was town.
Also, somebody has to contain Calix when I'm not there. We cannot let her be bad freely.
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On October 06 2016 05:15 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 05:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 05:07 Calix wrote: I agree that it's annoying that I am offering a better defense of Palmar than the actual fucking player is. No. You are opposed to his lynch, but you are not defending him. That's an over characterization of what you're doing. I am objecting to his lynch and have offered explanations for him being town which = a defense. And even if this doesn't class as a defense in your eyes, what is your point??
No, you have not provided explanations for him being town. What you did was being bad and reflecting your paranoia of HF's vote on him.
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On October 06 2016 05:18 Calix wrote: Also NU, how can I be bad when you just agreed that batsnacks' posting is bad?
That makes no sense.
Lol. I assume this post is a joke.
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On October 06 2016 05:16 Calix wrote: NU, kindly fuck off and stop calling me 'bad'. You're in no position to talk when half of your filter is a bunch of crap and Duck-tier play.
My filter is made of shitposts. Good shitposts. Your filter is made of actual posts. Bad actual posts.
Also Duck is a great player. I am taking this as a compliment.
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On October 06 2016 05:20 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 05:19 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 05:18 Calix wrote: Also NU, how can I be bad when you just agreed that batsnacks' posting is bad?
That makes no sense. Lol. I assume this post is a joke. No. You keep shitting on my play and used it as a reason to not vote for batsnacks. Now you made a point where you agreed that he is playing like scum. What changed?
Your play and reads are bad this game. This has nothing to do with my appreciation of Bats' posts. One doesn't prevent another.
I will vote Batsnacks. Him not even claiming town just doesn't make the cut for me. That's the basis of every defense, no?
I did not agree that he is playing like scum: I stated that his recent posts or what he will call a "defense" was awful. It frankly reminded of scum Eggy.
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On October 06 2016 05:29 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 05:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 05:20 Calix wrote:On October 06 2016 05:19 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 05:18 Calix wrote: Also NU, how can I be bad when you just agreed that batsnacks' posting is bad?
That makes no sense. Lol. I assume this post is a joke. No. You keep shitting on my play and used it as a reason to not vote for batsnacks. Now you made a point where you agreed that he is playing like scum. What changed? Your play and reads are bad this game. This has nothing to do with my appreciation of Bats' posts. One doesn't prevent another. I will vote Batsnacks. Him not even claiming town just doesn't make the cut for me. That's the basis of every defense, no? I did not agree that he is playing like scum: I stated that his recent posts or what he will call a "defense" was awful. It frankly reminded of scum Eggy. How can you know that my reads are bad exactly? Of all the reasons to vote batsnacks, that has got to be one of the worst. You town read DDD and sr bats. They are different from my reads so they are bad.
Because I do not want him lynched.
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On October 06 2016 05:41 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 05:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 05:29 Calix wrote:On October 06 2016 05:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 05:20 Calix wrote:On October 06 2016 05:19 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 05:18 Calix wrote: Also NU, how can I be bad when you just agreed that batsnacks' posting is bad?
That makes no sense. Lol. I assume this post is a joke. No. You keep shitting on my play and used it as a reason to not vote for batsnacks. Now you made a point where you agreed that he is playing like scum. What changed? Your play and reads are bad this game. This has nothing to do with my appreciation of Bats' posts. One doesn't prevent another. I will vote Batsnacks. Him not even claiming town just doesn't make the cut for me. That's the basis of every defense, no? I did not agree that he is playing like scum: I stated that his recent posts or what he will call a "defense" was awful. It frankly reminded of scum Eggy. How can you know that my reads are bad exactly? Of all the reasons to vote batsnacks, that has got to be one of the worst. You town read DDD and sr bats. They are different from my reads so they are bad. Because I do not want him lynched. I have no idea what is going on in this conversation. You are voting bats, are you saying you don't think he is scum? Yeah.
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On October 06 2016 05:45 batsnacks wrote: gonna have some fun while I can in this game
##vote: Holyflare What
No reads? No defense? Just fun?
Well.
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On October 06 2016 05:50 Calix wrote: I'm at a loss as to what the hell is going on right now. Think it was a scum claim.
If it was I still think hf can be sxum with snacks.
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On October 06 2016 06:31 Calix wrote: Not sure how much I'll be posting tonight. I have to re-evaluate a lot of my positions now that I know he was town and it's getting late so it'll be done tomorrow.
For example, I thought Palmar was town who was being bandwagoned as an attempt to divert away from batsnacks. Now the only reason that this narrative would make sense is if the mafia actively wanted town!Palmar dead over batsnacks because it meant a less informative lynch.
That's assuming a lot about the scum team though so I am not putting a lot of stock into this idea.
I don't want to defend Palmar anymore with that in mind.
Bad, bad, bad post.
Instead of re-evaluating your positions, you have two choices: 1) Listening to NU and stop being bad; 2) Following NU the superior reader's reads.
Your narrative is so tunneled. Mafia did not care who was lynched today as long as it wasn't one of their own. Stutters, Damdred, and HF/JAT/Marv don't have enough thread presence to divert a lynch led by MislynchQueen. There may have been mafia votes on Palmar, but it most likely was not to look bad.
You are still calling that objection to the lynch of King Plamar of Palmargard? Oh please. Why did you even want to 'defend' the dude in the first place?
Also, I put Grackaroni in charge of restricting Calix from being bad when I am away. Grackaroni is a man of trust. NU likes Grackaroni. Else, Calix will mow the whole town.
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On October 06 2016 07:41 marvellosity wrote: am sad Open up. The meanies are offline.
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On October 06 2016 08:18 Grackaroni wrote: I'm pretty sure I need you on my team right now. I'm trying to gather my minions.
Plamar isn't one of ours yet. When nu will recognize his holiness, maybe, just maybe, he can join our ranks. For now he is a meanie with a unibrow.
On October 06 2016 07:19 NeverUnlucky wrote: Also, I put Grackaroni in charge of restricting Calix from being bad when I am away. Grackaroni is a man of trust. NU likes Grackaroni. Else, Calix will mow the whole town. Are you up to the task?
(EBWOP: replace NU by nu and the post makes sense)
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Mafia, please do not kill Oats. He is the only person I can talk to when I am lone at night.
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On October 06 2016 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Has Palmar done the " fuck you guys youbsuck as mafia before?
Oh, yes.
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On October 06 2016 10:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv is mafia guys
Yay, a new read! NU is excited.
NU wants to know where it is coming from.
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On October 06 2016 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 10:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 10:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv is mafia guys Yay, a new read! NU is excited. NU wants to know where it is coming from. Don't do that.... He's been pretty apathetic in the period leading up to the lynch and he didn't really have many other reads than bats. I need to reread later but that's it from the top of my head That's bad
NU goes to sleep out of disappointment.
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On October 06 2016 18:39 Holyflare wrote: Marv is incredibly apathetic/probably mafia.
Marv could be replaced with HF and the sentence would still make sense.
On October 06 2016 18:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 16:12 Superbia wrote: Hmm did JAT have an opinion on Palmar or Bats? Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 16:12 Superbia wrote: Only vote outside the wagons outside of Bats and stutters (who will hopefully get MKed). Why do you ask this when noone besides you is around and it would take like 2 minutes to check if you were actually interested in the answer? So, I voted outside of the 2 wagons. Do you think that is scummy? That was much of an overreaction to Super's inquiries. Defensive for no reason.
Do you prefer Justanothermafia or Justanotherscum?
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On October 06 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote: Calix must die though.
If you could send your mafioso to shank her, it would be appreciated. It would let me time to catch up to her post count and would get us townies rid of the town tard.
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On October 06 2016 21:45 Holyflare wrote: I haven't been apathetic in the slightest I've arguably been the most talkative person that's wanted shit done and made cases?
Keyword here: Arguably. You have been apathetic. You have not been the most talkative. You did not want shit done. Your cases were exaggerated and did a good job of painting your targets as scum.
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On October 06 2016 20:34 Holyflare wrote: Why would mafia palmar not vote to save himself? 3 people were online at the deadline including him and Calix. Calix was never going to not vote BS. Palamara was in no threat of being lynched. Drop the "He didn't vote to save himself".
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On October 06 2016 21:12 Koshi wrote: Check somebody like Damdred. Maybe Calix/Grack.
No need, bro. I have a redcheck on DDD already.
And we can stop discussing vigi kills as we don't have a vigi.
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On October 06 2016 21:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 21:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 20:34 Holyflare wrote: Why would mafia palmar not vote to save himself? 3 people were online at the deadline including him and Calix. Calix was never going to not vote BS. Palamara was in no threat of being lynched. Drop the "He didn't vote to save himself". Are you seriously perpetuating the palmar is mafia rhetoric while calling me mafia? That's hilariously bad since I'm trying to force the lynch to him. I am saying that the argument of Palamar not voting to save himself is invalid in this context. I am not saying he is mafia.
I am calling you mafia though, yes. All your scum-reads so far have been obvious townies. That's either because you are like Calix or because you are mafia. Since the town retard rolecard is already in Calix's hands, I assume you are mafia.
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On October 06 2016 21:53 Holyflare wrote: I can't think of a worse read in fact and that's including calix's one on me. Calix did not make a case on you I don't think.
If she did, I must've forgotten it because it was bad.
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On October 06 2016 22:04 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 21:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 21:52 Holyflare wrote:On October 06 2016 21:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 20:34 Holyflare wrote: Why would mafia palmar not vote to save himself? 3 people were online at the deadline including him and Calix. Calix was never going to not vote BS. Palamara was in no threat of being lynched. Drop the "He didn't vote to save himself". Are you seriously perpetuating the palmar is mafia rhetoric while calling me mafia? That's hilariously bad since I'm trying to force the lynch to him. I am saying that the argument of Palamar not voting to save himself is invalid in this context. I am not saying he is mafia. I am calling you mafia though, yes. All your scum-reads so far have been obvious townies. That's either because you are like Calix or because you are mafia. Since the town retard rolecard is already in Calix's hands, I assume you are mafia. And you're saying this knowing that I pushed ticktock in the last game we played together, yes? Perfectly. In that game you were an obvious town. This game you are far from this status.
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On October 06 2016 22:10 Holyflare wrote:That's a shame then. Guess I'll just abuse mechanics myself next time, thanks for the tip Calix is not townie, especially not after palmar defence. If that is why you think I'm being town-read then you are very very very very bad. I will need to read the setup to see if town retard is a unique role. If it is then you are undoubtedly mafia.
It was not a defense.
I think she's an obvious town, but I am not opposed to her lynched because the idea looks entertaining.
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On October 06 2016 22:24 Holyflare wrote: That is actually legitimately the only reason I town read you, sorry.
Is there a shitstorm in the UK?
Marv, Calix, and HF are all playing like shit this game. There has to be a valid reason for this. Maybe it's the tea.
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Actually if I'm reading this correctly HF is town. He's still bad.
gtg, make sure you don't let Calix on the loose.
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On October 06 2016 22:39 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 22:15 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 22:10 Holyflare wrote:That's a shame then. Guess I'll just abuse mechanics myself next time, thanks for the tip Calix is not townie, especially not after palmar defence. If that is why you think I'm being town-read then you are very very very very bad. I will need to read the setup to see if town retard is a unique role. If it is then you are undoubtedly mafia. It was not a defense. I think she's an obvious town, but I am not opposed to her lynched because the idea looks entertaining. It most definitely is the only reason you are townread. If you keep playing like this it is probably time to check your meta soon to see if you really aren't able to be this active as mafia.
Oh yeah? Funny how none of it was present in your town-read of me, hmm? In fact, you had another argument to town-read me. Nice contradiction.
On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote: nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.
These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):
Also, you blatantly skipped my question. Do you prefer Justanotherscum or Justanothermafia?
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On October 06 2016 22:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 22:48 Superbia wrote:On October 06 2016 22:45 justanothertownie wrote: What kind of question is that? If that was the case mafia probably did not really care who of them got lynched so we think about the wagons with that in mind. And you would question people who are outside of the wagons first because they apparently did not care about the lynches. Why are you getting so defensive? Like you're a natural stand out if Palmar is town. Do you think Palmar is town? Seriously? Are you not able to read? 1. I have no idea what Palmar is. Could easily be mafia. That's why we need to wagon him day2. 2. I will explain the outlier thing to you like you are 5 because apparently it is really hard to grasp this simple thing: JAT in thread. No wagons. JAT votes superbia who he thinks is mafia and who other people agreed would be a decent lynch/realistic wagon. JAT is gone until after deadline which he announced before the game started. Wagons start to form on batsnacks and Palmar. . . . . JAT is scummy because he did not predict the wagons would be bats and Palmar?!?! Do you see the logical problem here now?
This post is so bad and so scummy. Prepare the guillotine, boys.
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On October 06 2016 22:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 22:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Like what the fuck man hf. I just said that calix pushed shit and kept the thread going which is objectively correct and also what you said you did that makes you town. That's it. Yes but that's fucking dumb because her pushing the thread forward was full of logical inconsistencies and mine made sense at every turn. Hence my point of her being fucking bad.
Your points don't make her mafia, they make her bad bad bad bad.
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On October 07 2016 00:19 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 00:18 Superbia wrote: Though if you keep following the Ritoky "everything you do is mafia because you're mafia" route I'm going to lynch you. Remember the last time you threatened to lynch me? How did that work out for you? This is so scummy as well. "Don't lynch me because last time you did it did not go well."
Guillotine! Guillotine! Guillotine!
On October 06 2016 23:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 23:04 Superbia wrote: Weren't you calling JAT mafia at some point HF? Are you interested in solving this game? Or are you just interested in cutting people off?
What a nerd. Isn't that my mafia objective? oh oh oh scumslip oh oh oh
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On October 07 2016 00:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 00:33 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 22:39 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 22:15 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 22:10 Holyflare wrote:That's a shame then. Guess I'll just abuse mechanics myself next time, thanks for the tip Calix is not townie, especially not after palmar defence. If that is why you think I'm being town-read then you are very very very very bad. I will need to read the setup to see if town retard is a unique role. If it is then you are undoubtedly mafia. It was not a defense. I think she's an obvious town, but I am not opposed to her lynched because the idea looks entertaining. It most definitely is the only reason you are townread. If you keep playing like this it is probably time to check your meta soon to see if you really aren't able to be this active as mafia. Oh yeah? Funny how none of it was present in your town-read of me, hmm? In fact, you had another argument to town-read me. Nice contradiction. On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote: nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.
These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):
I suggest you read that quote again since it actually proves my point and not yours.
"But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town."
It fucking proves my point. GTFO.
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On October 07 2016 00:38 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 00:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 22:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 22:48 Superbia wrote:On October 06 2016 22:45 justanothertownie wrote: What kind of question is that? If that was the case mafia probably did not really care who of them got lynched so we think about the wagons with that in mind. And you would question people who are outside of the wagons first because they apparently did not care about the lynches. Why are you getting so defensive? Like you're a natural stand out if Palmar is town. Do you think Palmar is town? Seriously? Are you not able to read? 1. I have no idea what Palmar is. Could easily be mafia. That's why we need to wagon him day2. 2. I will explain the outlier thing to you like you are 5 because apparently it is really hard to grasp this simple thing: JAT in thread. No wagons. JAT votes superbia who he thinks is mafia and who other people agreed would be a decent lynch/realistic wagon. JAT is gone until after deadline which he announced before the game started. Wagons start to form on batsnacks and Palmar. . . . . JAT is scummy because he did not predict the wagons would be bats and Palmar?!?! Do you see the logical problem here now? This post is so bad and so scummy. Prepare the guillotine, boys. Feel free to explain.
The obvious needs not explanation.
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On October 07 2016 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 00:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 00:19 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 00:18 Superbia wrote: Though if you keep following the Ritoky "everything you do is mafia because you're mafia" route I'm going to lynch you. Remember the last time you threatened to lynch me? How did that work out for you? This is so scummy as well. "Don't lynch me because last time you did it did not go well." Guillotine! Guillotine! Guillotine! On October 06 2016 23:07 Holyflare wrote:On October 06 2016 23:04 Superbia wrote: Weren't you calling JAT mafia at some point HF? Are you interested in solving this game? Or are you just interested in cutting people off?
What a nerd. Isn't that my mafia objective? oh oh oh scumslip oh oh oh I guess you are the court jester over on your site, yes?
You wish. This is the first time I play the way I am playing. I usually play similarly to Calix without the nerdy cases and with on-point mafia reads.
This is just much more fun.
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On October 07 2016 00:45 Grackaroni wrote: This Superbia/JAT spat has got to be one of the most boring fights I have seen.
Agreed. Even for someone who has watched all the seasons of Powerpuff Girls.
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On October 07 2016 00:46 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 00:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 00:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 00:19 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 00:18 Superbia wrote: Though if you keep following the Ritoky "everything you do is mafia because you're mafia" route I'm going to lynch you. Remember the last time you threatened to lynch me? How did that work out for you? This is so scummy as well. "Don't lynch me because last time you did it did not go well." Guillotine! Guillotine! Guillotine! On October 06 2016 23:07 Holyflare wrote:On October 06 2016 23:04 Superbia wrote: Weren't you calling JAT mafia at some point HF? Are you interested in solving this game? Or are you just interested in cutting people off?
What a nerd. Isn't that my mafia objective? oh oh oh scumslip oh oh oh I guess you are the court jester over on your site, yes? You wish. This is the first time I play the way I am playing. I usually play similarly to Calix without the nerdy cases and with on-point mafia reads. This is just much more fun. That makes sense. Because your reads in this game are certainly not on point.
1/1 so far.
your poiny is invalid
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On October 07 2016 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 00:47 Superbia wrote:On October 07 2016 00:45 Grackaroni wrote: This Superbia/JAT spat has got to be one of the most boring fights I have seen. Literally not even trying. I hope jat is not either Nah, I would need an actual opponent.
Superbia was on top of the fight. Just saying.
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On October 07 2016 00:50 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 00:47 Superbia wrote:On October 07 2016 00:45 Grackaroni wrote: This Superbia/JAT spat has got to be one of the most boring fights I have seen. Also what do you make of it? I think there's a chance it could be bussing. JAT isn't giving any reasons why people should scum read you. You aren't giving any reasons why people should scum read him. Yet you both want to make it clear that you are suspecting each other.
You're reading it the wrong way. It's just a dick measuring competition with some shitty past games references that have no relevance here.
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On October 07 2016 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 00:50 Grackaroni wrote:On October 07 2016 00:47 Superbia wrote:On October 07 2016 00:45 Grackaroni wrote: This Superbia/JAT spat has got to be one of the most boring fights I have seen. Also what do you make of it? I think there's a chance it could be bussing. JAT isn't giving any reasons why people should scum read you. You aren't giving any reasons why people should scum read him. Yet you both want to make it clear that you are suspecting each other. How am I not giving any reasons? What do you think I have done all day? I gave multiple reasons for why he is mafia. 1. He doesn't care about the things he asked. 2. He posts superficial reads. 3. He is posting just to post. 4. His overconfidence and combativeness fit his scummeta perfectly which you can easily check by having a look at the last game we played together. And you are accusing other people of not reading the thread?
All I see is NAI traits with a meta point seasoned with overreacting defensiveness.
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On October 07 2016 00:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 00:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 00:50 Grackaroni wrote:On October 07 2016 00:47 Superbia wrote:On October 07 2016 00:45 Grackaroni wrote: This Superbia/JAT spat has got to be one of the most boring fights I have seen. Also what do you make of it? I think there's a chance it could be bussing. JAT isn't giving any reasons why people should scum read you. You aren't giving any reasons why people should scum read him. Yet you both want to make it clear that you are suspecting each other. How am I not giving any reasons? What do you think I have done all day? I gave multiple reasons for why he is mafia. 1. He doesn't care about the things he asked. 2. He posts superficial reads. 3. He is posting just to post. 4. His overconfidence and combativeness fit his scummeta perfectly which you can easily check by having a look at the last game we played together. And you are accusing other people of not reading the thread? All I see is NAI traits with a meta point seasoned with overreacting defensiveness. Alright. This guy is on /ignore from now on until I either think he is the best possible lynch or he starts adressing the content of posts instead of failing at trolling people.
What a nice response to mere pressure, scum.
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On October 07 2016 01:11 Holyflare wrote: - - - posts from this post onward should only be game relevant scum reads and reasons. No more bs please. - - - A man can dream.
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tld;dr I sheeped NU's reads.
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Everybody seems to have forgotten DDD.
+ Show Spoiler +On October 05 2016 06:08 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:05 Superbia wrote:On October 05 2016 06:03 Damdred wrote:On October 05 2016 05:52 Superbia wrote:On October 05 2016 05:50 Damdred wrote:On October 05 2016 05:49 Superbia wrote: Anyway I think:
NU/Calix/Marv are town.
JAT is pretty town.
Palmar is possibly town. HF is possibly town.
Rest is all meh with bats taking the lowest slot.
Ho can you think bats is scum (at this point) but just have me meh with no real read given I actually think you are on the low part of meh because of your very meh push on me, but I didn't have any real strong opinion. I.e. I also think Koshi is weird. Need to evaluate more on that. So your working theory is that I am potential scum with bats, because you were/are acting shady with almost no explanations. And most of,the other people,who share opinions with me and mostly agree with my posts you town read? No. My working theory is that I thought your push on me for the marv interaction was scummy (as it heavily assumed Marv was town out of nowhere) and that I need to evaluate more at some later point (pretty done for today). My working theory on snacks is that he's getting some light pressure put on him and posting a thesis on how I'm town. No connection (yet!). Marv is an obvious town read at that point for several reasons and most people should realize why and your pressure on him was shit tbh. The push on you by everyone was warranted and still is to some degree. In no way is marv an obv. town-read. Especially when your explanation to the read is that it fits his meta. (Does it even?...) On October 05 2016 06:21 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:10 Superbia wrote:On October 05 2016 06:08 Damdred wrote:On October 05 2016 06:05 Superbia wrote:On October 05 2016 06:03 Damdred wrote:On October 05 2016 05:52 Superbia wrote:On October 05 2016 05:50 Damdred wrote:On October 05 2016 05:49 Superbia wrote: Anyway I think:
NU/Calix/Marv are town.
JAT is pretty town.
Palmar is possibly town. HF is possibly town.
Rest is all meh with bats taking the lowest slot.
Ho can you think bats is scum (at this point) but just have me meh with no real read given I actually think you are on the low part of meh because of your very meh push on me, but I didn't have any real strong opinion. I.e. I also think Koshi is weird. Need to evaluate more on that. So your working theory is that I am potential scum with bats, because you were/are acting shady with almost no explanations. And most of,the other people,who share opinions with me and mostly agree with my posts you town read? No. My working theory is that I thought your push on me for the marv interaction was scummy (as it heavily assumed Marv was town out of nowhere) and that I need to evaluate more at some later point (pretty done for today). My working theory on snacks is that he's getting some light pressure put on him and posting a thesis on how I'm town. No connection (yet!). Marv is an obvious town read at that point for several reasons and most people should realize why and your pressure on him was shit tbh. The push on you by everyone was warranted and still is to some degree. Please succinctly explain how Marv (who is a decent player) is an easy read and should never receive any pressure. That's dumb and you know it, Is marv playing? If yes probably town Is marv sassy? More than likely town Palmar went after marv yes or no? If yes refer to one Marv went after a hard to lynch person? Probably town On October 05 2016 07:08 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me. You just do not have good taste then since even calix town reads me. Maybe I'm wrong about NU being town I'm unsure now based on him reading the game opposite how he would idk. What does he mean with "even Calix town-reads me"? Whatever that is it's bad.
Shit, I'm awful at filter-diving. Anybody who wants to get a feel of this guy should filter dive him themselves and see how lackluster his posts are.
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We supposedly lynched bats for information. What did we get out of it?
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On October 07 2016 01:24 Calix wrote: You care way more about my presence in the game than vice versa.
Your weird obsession with trash-talking me hasn't become any better just because you swapped out "Calix is scum" to "Calix is bad"
Please get over yourself, or at least stop mentioning me every second post.
Can't help but laugh at this.
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btw 1472 = Fringe, Spoiler, Spoiler, #9.
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On October 07 2016 01:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 01:45 Calix wrote: You're still doing it, NU and you're not relevant enough to keep doing it.
JAT, I'm not really following your argument tbh. He said "oh look off the main wagons", made some comments implying that Palmar was more likely to be town and then made the "not saying it's TvT" comment.
Also how is saying "look off the wagon" shit-flinging? I feel like you're bothered because you're in that bracket of players because I don't see anything that amazing. I give up. I will explain it as clear and concise as possible once again later. There is no bracket. There is only me besides palmar and he posted about me specifically.
Are you town?
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On October 07 2016 01:58 Calix wrote: NU, I really hope you improve your posting after your trolltastic Day 1, lol.
Promise I will. My pre-game excuse was to have a shitty day 1 due to having limited time. This weekend is Thanksgiving, so aside from a soccer tournament, I have no obligations for 4 days.
Do you infirm or confirm my code?
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On October 07 2016 02:05 Calix wrote: What did you mean with your earlier comment of "HF is town if I'm reading this correctly"? That's the code, dude.
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On October 07 2016 02:09 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 02:07 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 02:05 Calix wrote: What did you mean with your earlier comment of "HF is town if I'm reading this correctly"? That's the code, dude. You must be joking.
I mean you confirmed it, so you agree with me? I am confused.
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On October 07 2016 02:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 02:11 Calix wrote: Yes HF, it was a shitty list post where I didn't elaborate on my reasoning. Well done, moron.
You took multiple paragraphs to realise that.
Waste of a wall-post. You know, you're not very good at this game. HF, are you town?
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On October 07 2016 02:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 02:13 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 02:13 Holyflare wrote:On October 07 2016 02:11 Calix wrote: Yes HF, it was a shitty list post where I didn't elaborate on my reasoning. Well done, moron.
You took multiple paragraphs to realise that.
Waste of a wall-post. You know, you're not very good at this game. HF, are you town? *clap* *clap* At least use the smilies if you are going to say this.
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On October 07 2016 02:23 Calix wrote: Legit question. Do you think the flare has the Town Tone?
No.
As I said, he was obvious town in HM3 to me. This game he is nowhere close to that. If the code is flawed, I've no reason to think the dude is town.
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On October 07 2016 02:24 Holyflare wrote: The gun is coming for you calix
That's one of the reasons I concluded shit.
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On October 07 2016 03:17 Grackaroni wrote: Which game was the game? Because it isn't just a failure to vote, he very easily could have taken a vote off of the Batsnacks wagon by making a push on HF.
At that point there was not enough people online to concretise the HF shenannie. I don't think anybody would have pulled his vote off of Bats/Plamar to lynch HF.
You make a point. I could have gotten Plamar lynched. Obviously, knowing Bats flipped town I regret not smiting this shitter, but I did not have a reason to sr Plamar at the time. I still do not have one.
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On October 07 2016 03:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 03:05 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2016 02:44 Calix wrote:As a side note Koshi, the word you are probably looking for is "luxury" Has anything else about Marv stood out to you? Why would Stutters being modkilled 'probably put us in trouble'? I don't know what you are asking about marv. My townread on him was based on the content of his posts only when I townread him and then the flip happened and based on that I flipped my read 180 degrees. While him being wrong should not be that impactful. Maybe a bit but not a full 180. Stutters being modkilled is probably bad because 1) modkilled people flip town, that's simply life + 2) we lose a ml (unless there is a vig) and then it's going to be a crappy 3 vs 1 lylo with biased people and the game is lost as well. One last question. Can you walk me through why your read flipped that much after batsnacks flipped town? If this is already explained elsewhere in your filter then just ignore this post. Your Stutters comment stood out as you assumed he was flipping town but since you openly admit that with some reasoning (even if I find it weak and disagree), carry on. It only flipped this morning after I slept because when I was going to work, I was considering who could be mafia if Palmar was not mafia, and I was thinking that would make you and marv most likely mafia. Marv for not caring at all about how we went towards EoD and putting batsnacks his name next to Palmars when he knew I was gunning for Palmar 100%. Making these 2 lynches the main wagons for sure. You could be mafia for harddefending 1 townie like a tard while hard blindpushing another townie. I even considered that nu was likely mafia with Palmar for voting his townread batsnacks over Palmar. (which is still a good consideration). But the guy posts so toxic I doubt he is mafia. Or if this is how he plays mafia I can only respect it. I can't do it like that.
Who did she harddefend?
My posts are not toxic :c
The way I play mafia is by getting lynched. If I am not lynched I am not mafia.
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On October 07 2016 03:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 03:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 03:20 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2016 03:05 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2016 02:44 Calix wrote:As a side note Koshi, the word you are probably looking for is "luxury" Has anything else about Marv stood out to you? Why would Stutters being modkilled 'probably put us in trouble'? I don't know what you are asking about marv. My townread on him was based on the content of his posts only when I townread him and then the flip happened and based on that I flipped my read 180 degrees. While him being wrong should not be that impactful. Maybe a bit but not a full 180. Stutters being modkilled is probably bad because 1) modkilled people flip town, that's simply life + 2) we lose a ml (unless there is a vig) and then it's going to be a crappy 3 vs 1 lylo with biased people and the game is lost as well. One last question. Can you walk me through why your read flipped that much after batsnacks flipped town? If this is already explained elsewhere in your filter then just ignore this post. Your Stutters comment stood out as you assumed he was flipping town but since you openly admit that with some reasoning (even if I find it weak and disagree), carry on. It only flipped this morning after I slept because when I was going to work, I was considering who could be mafia if Palmar was not mafia, and I was thinking that would make you and marv most likely mafia. Marv for not caring at all about how we went towards EoD and putting batsnacks his name next to Palmars when he knew I was gunning for Palmar 100%. Making these 2 lynches the main wagons for sure. You could be mafia for harddefending 1 townie like a tard while hard blindpushing another townie. I even considered that nu was likely mafia with Palmar for voting his townread batsnacks over Palmar. (which is still a good consideration). But the guy posts so toxic I doubt he is mafia. Or if this is how he plays mafia I can only respect it. I can't do it like that. Who did she harddefend? My posts are not toxic :c The way I play mafia is by getting lynched. If I am not lynched I am not mafia. Palmar. They are. But Calix is ok with it so I don't care. I prefer playing this way. But I got banned for a lot less. Or warned. Probably both. Cool. So we can't ml you tomorrow?
Ah. Well you know my opinion on that "defense".
Oh, my posts regarding Calix are toxic. Yeah, ok. It was the other way around in HM3. Think we are both fine with it.
If you're good, no.
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On October 07 2016 05:26 Holyflare wrote: Jat is only in my mafia list for underwhelming play.
The thing is this guy's posts are neither funny (or attempt to be) nor contributive. And he posts a lot.
Like, he's actively doing nothing.
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On October 07 2016 06:28 Calix wrote: NU, did you ever explain why you voted for someone you didn't scum-read yesterday?
Maybe. Can't recall.
My vote on HF was useless as I was the only one to vote him at the time. I was considering voting either Bats or Plamar (I sr neither).
Batsnacks' defense was utter shit, and I thought he scumclaimed when he voted HF and said something like, "Might as well have fun while I can." I would expect this to be something scum would say when they're on the verge of being lynched (like me in superstitious), not a town. Town should give out the final reads they have which he did not do.
That was what made me vote him. Obv. with hindisght bias I now think voting Plamar was the better option there as he is playing exactly like in hm3.
On October 07 2016 06:20 Calix wrote: But yeah, my play this game is reminding me of other games I've had where I was totally wrong and was basically honorary mafia by pushing mislynches all game long so I'm just going to take a step back now BEFORE I reach that point.
##vote Palmar
Don't say I did not try to prevent that.
Also, when you type my initials, how do you read my name? ie "[NeverUnlucky], did you..." or "[En-you], did you..."
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You have this annoying habit of not listening to others who say that the lynch you are leading is a ML. Please try listening to your trs in the future.
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To add to marv's points on Plam - Plamar said that I should have been modkilled day 1 for trying to abuse the game mechanics. This would only favor mafia.
That's his one post that made me think he is mafia.
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On October 07 2016 06:39 Calix wrote: Your explanation sucks.
You said you didn't scum-read him. Now you're claiming that you did scum-read him for that post.
You also said he was scummy because he didn't say "I'm town" in his defense - that is literally what you posted in the thread.
Someone saying "might as well have fun" has never been scum-indicative. What are you smoking?
I don't give a shit if you tried to prevent that, my dude.
I did not scum-read him. I said that as I voted. Go check. (Grack asked me if I scum-read Bats and I said no.)
Yes, I said that. Your point?
I explained my thought process. I still think it's scum AI.
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On October 07 2016 06:41 Calix wrote: It also makes no sense for you to lecture me for not listening to you when you voted for him for doing something scummy, lmao.
Listening to your TRs is what I said. I was not the only one to tell you bats was unlikely to flip mafia.
It makes perfect sense.
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I said that I thought that he had scum-claimed in the thread. You even questioned it.
I have just explained it.
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On October 07 2016 06:47 NeverUnlucky wrote: I said that I thought that he had scum-claimed in the thread. You even questioned it.
I have just explained it. At EoD*
Your whole point is that my read on Bats changed when it did not.
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On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote: Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time.
It fucking does.
What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere.
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On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote: Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time. It fucking does. What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere. Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude.
Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point?
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On October 07 2016 06:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote: Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time. It fucking does. What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere. Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude. Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point? It's obvious that I think your vote is bad and I'm prying into your stated reasoning vs what you've said before and how they don't actually make sense together. Doesn't take a genius to pick up on that one, pal.
They make sense together... they're the same.
So it has no relevance. You have no follow-up on this.
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What do y'all make of HF's death?
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On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote: What do y'all make of HF's death?
I think it further clears Calix from being mafia because the "code" I was talking about stated that I had a veteran read on HF (I had not read the veteran role, so I thought a veteran killed the visitors when he decides to go on alert. I thought his whole "I will shoot Calix" narrative was a vet bait because of that.). If Calix was mafia, I do not think she would have NKed HF knowing this.
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On October 07 2016 07:03 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:56 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote: Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time. It fucking does. What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere. Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude. Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point? It's obvious that I think your vote is bad and I'm prying into your stated reasoning vs what you've said before and how they don't actually make sense together. Doesn't take a genius to pick up on that one, pal. They make sense together... they're the same. So it has no relevance. You have no follow-up on this. Saying you don't scum-read someone who you think scum-claimed is not the same. Instead of properly explaining your thought process here so that I can understand it better, you're just trying to shut down this line of conversation by calling it 'irrelevant'. You have yet to show me how this point is relevant, lmao. I don't see any follow-up coming my way.
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On October 07 2016 07:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote: What do y'all make of HF's death?
I think it further clears Calix from being mafia because the "code" I was talking about stated that I had a veteran read on HF (I had not read the veteran role, so I thought a veteran killed the visitors when he decides to go on alert. I thought his whole "I will shoot Calix" narrative was a vet bait because of that.). If Calix was mafia, I do not think she would have NKed HF knowing this.
Although she did not agree with that read. Hmm.
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On October 07 2016 07:08 Calix wrote: You're seriously trying to say that you didn't read the setup?
Veteran is a protective role. It can be roleblocked and killed because Consort is a guaranteed role.
I did read the setup. Just not the veteran description as I thought it was a standard veteran.
Like again, what is the relevance of this? You don't even sr me.
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On October 07 2016 07:10 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 07:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 07:03 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:56 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote: Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time. It fucking does. What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere. Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude. Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point? It's obvious that I think your vote is bad and I'm prying into your stated reasoning vs what you've said before and how they don't actually make sense together. Doesn't take a genius to pick up on that one, pal. They make sense together... they're the same. So it has no relevance. You have no follow-up on this. Saying you don't scum-read someone who you think scum-claimed is not the same. Instead of properly explaining your thought process here so that I can understand it better, you're just trying to shut down this line of conversation by calling it 'irrelevant'. You have yet to show me how this point is relevant, lmao. I don't see any follow-up coming my way. Nice evasion of explaining your contradictory vote. Your vote sucks. You voted for someone that you didn't scum-read and later claimed that he scum-claimed. This was on town. You then try having your cake and eating it too by going "told you so LOL Calix, you so bad, should have listened to me sooner!" and now you refuse to explain yourself. Need me to spoon-feed you any further on how scummy that is?
Who are you to tell me my vote sucked, lol?
If I voted Palmar, the problem would have been the same. I did not scum-read Palmar. My vote on HF was meaningless because it was the only one on him. I had to choose between two players I do not scum-read. Of course the vote was going to be bad. Nice job taking my vote out of context.
Yeah, you're fucking bad. This push is bad. (You claim that my vote doesn't match my reads, while you are pushing one of your scum-reads. That is some really nice play.)
I said that you never listened to anybody else. That applies to every game I've seen you play. It's either your lynch or fuck off. The better players' opinion does not matter.
I have explained myself.
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One of your town-reads* obviously
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On October 07 2016 07:23 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 07:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 07:10 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 07:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 07:03 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:56 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote: [quote]
It fucking does.
What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere. Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude. Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point? It's obvious that I think your vote is bad and I'm prying into your stated reasoning vs what you've said before and how they don't actually make sense together. Doesn't take a genius to pick up on that one, pal. They make sense together... they're the same. So it has no relevance. You have no follow-up on this. Saying you don't scum-read someone who you think scum-claimed is not the same. Instead of properly explaining your thought process here so that I can understand it better, you're just trying to shut down this line of conversation by calling it 'irrelevant'. You have yet to show me how this point is relevant, lmao. I don't see any follow-up coming my way. Nice evasion of explaining your contradictory vote. Your vote sucks. You voted for someone that you didn't scum-read and later claimed that he scum-claimed. This was on town. You then try having your cake and eating it too by going "told you so LOL Calix, you so bad, should have listened to me sooner!" and now you refuse to explain yourself. Need me to spoon-feed you any further on how scummy that is? Who are you to tell me my vote sucked, lol? If I voted Palmar, the problem would have been the same. I did not scum-read Palmar. My vote on HF was meaningless because it was the only one on him. I had to choose between two players I do not scum-read. Of course the vote was going to be bad. Nice job taking my vote out of context. Yeah, you're fucking bad. This push is bad. (You claim that my vote doesn't match my reads, while you are pushing one of your scum-reads. That is some really nice play.) I said that you never listened to anybody else. That applies to every game I've seen you play. It's either your lynch or fuck off. The better players' opinion does not matter. I have explained myself. "Your vote was worse so my awful contradiction doesn't mean anything!"
You actually have zero self-conscience. This is a complete twist of what I said.
You still have not explained how "I don't scum-read him" and "he scum-claimed" make any sense. Your response is just you whining about how you JUST HAD TO CHOOSE between two town-reads when you could have easily voted for a third wagon and push that? lol
I said, "I think that was a scum-claim." I was not convinced it was one myself, and I did explain why I thought it was one. He had a town tone and I stated it. That was why I did not scum-read him.
When I placed my vote, I had to go to class. I was not in a position to push for a third wagon.
HF was being considered as an option and had a brief spurt of votes on him iirc. You have no excuse to not even try and get a wagon on him going. It wasn't like anyone really town-read him at that point.
Yeah, you don't rc. He had batsnacks and Palmar's votes and that was after I voted batsnacks. He was not ever considered an option before by other players than me.
I had an excuse.
You realise that your continued discrediting of someone you town-read is extremely anti-town and only helps the scum do their job by tearing down a town voice, right? It hasn't escaped my notice that most of your posts have the words "Calix is bad/ retarded" which is excessive even for you.
Most of my posts? Not. Maybe a sixth of my posts has "X is bad".
You are doing a great job of tearing down your own voice.
You don't know me. You cannot judge what is excessive for me and what is not. And I never called you or anybody retarded.
The fact that you started renewing your "Calix sucks" tirade once I said that I find your vote scummy (in the same post where you fail to explain it, rofl) speaks volumes.
If you think that this is a good push, you are fucking atrocious. And when did I stop the "Calix is bad" thing? Never.
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On October 07 2016 07:27 Calix wrote: Not even getting into how you picked the person you actively town-read over someone who you have only said is "not scummy" lmao.
I did explain this. I had reasons to doubt my BS read while I did not have any reason to sr Plamar (other than the modkill post).
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I am town and would rather spend my time watching my movies/looking at the scummy players' filter than arguing with Mrs. Ego.
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Calix, you saying something is scummy has no real meaning. It's just a weasel word.
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Somebody NEEDS to discredit you for Christ's sake. You are pushing town and think you are doing fine.
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Why would I call you scum? You're obv. town, and I am not bad.
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Also, I fucking hard-claimed to you D1. Do you think I would do this as scum?
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On October 07 2016 06:20 Calix wrote: But yeah, my play this game is reminding me of other games I've had where I was totally wrong and was basically honorary mafia by pushing mislynches all game long so I'm just going to take a step back now BEFORE I reach that point.
##vote Palmar
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The story repeats itself.
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On October 07 2016 07:57 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 07:52 NeverUnlucky wrote: Somebody NEEDS to discredit you for Christ's sake. You are pushing town and think you are doing fine. I'm town. The only people who NEED to discredit me are the scum. You are either helping them or you're scum yourself. I don't think you're that retarded so scum is the only option left. Town who think someone is misguided would try to persuade them. You've just insulted me the entire game and then insult me more when I (obviously) don't listen to you.
No, scum do NOT want to discredit you because you are doing the ML legwork for them, lmao. I am 100% helping town by discrediting you and I'm having a blast doing it.
You cannot be persuaded. Face the fucking truth. I tried to get you to vote Kovath in IC, you didn't budge. I tried to get you not to vote Drizzt in 3FaS, you didn't budge. I tried to tell you that BS was not mafia, you didn't budge (and downplayed my arguments).
You should listen to me. I can read.
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On October 07 2016 08:01 Calix wrote: Strong arguments. I'm convinced by the very person who has admitted to trying to discredit town-reads and who has spent a considerable amount of time doing so.
That's clearly scum-motivated.
You did the same thing in HM3. You were time.
Clearly it's scum-motivated, hmm?
I am town, so all of your arguments are invalid, and you are fucking bad.
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You don't even answer my points. You prefer to use sarcasm instead ("Strong arguments").
And you scum-reading me right now is fucking sad considering you're the one who claims to know what my scum meta looks like. If so was the case, you would know that I am complacent and non-confrontational. Quite the opposite of this game.
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On October 07 2016 08:06 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 08:03 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 07:57 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 07:52 NeverUnlucky wrote: Somebody NEEDS to discredit you for Christ's sake. You are pushing town and think you are doing fine. I'm town. The only people who NEED to discredit me are the scum. You are either helping them or you're scum yourself. I don't think you're that retarded so scum is the only option left. Town who think someone is misguided would try to persuade them. You've just insulted me the entire game and then insult me more when I (obviously) don't listen to you. No, scum do NOT want to discredit you because you are doing the ML legwork for them, lmao. I am 100% helping town by discrediting you and I'm having a blast doing it. You cannot be persuaded. Face the fucking truth. I tried to get you to vote Kovath in IC, you didn't budge. I tried to get you not to vote Drizzt in 3FaS, you didn't budge. I tried to tell you that BS was not mafia, you didn't budge (and downplayed my arguments). You should listen to me. I can read. Bullshit. You didn't try to convince me at all. Your arguments for batsnacks were "you're voting for him so he's a ML" and "he has town tone" That was IT. Why would I listen to that exactly? Come to think of it, you didn't even defend him. You just made some shitty posts where it LOOKED like you were defending him (see above) so you could try and use it for you "I told you so! Listen to me!" shtick.
"He's fucking hilarious."
YOU'RE SO BAD. HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM ANY OF THE TOWN-READS I'VE GIVEN IN THE PAST? MY TOWN-READS JUSTIFICATIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT.
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On October 07 2016 07:57 NeverUnlucky wrote: Also, I fucking hard-claimed to you D1. Do you think I would do this as scum?
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On October 07 2016 08:11 Calix wrote: In case it wasn't bleeding obvious, I'm assuming that you've done this thing called "tried to improve your scum-game"
Which means that you get no pass for your meta. If I ignore your scum meta, your posts have been sub-par. I'll concede on your "my D1 is going to suck" pre-game point but you'd better step it up.
Why, thank you. I'm flattered that you now think that I could have improved.
My shitposts were not sub-par.
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On October 07 2016 08:11 Calix wrote: You are currently faking a spastic attack, kk.
This has taken up like, two pages so I'm going to give you a break to do something else.
No. Get to the bottom of this.
Fucking try, FOR ONCE IN YOUR MAFIA CAREER, to look at both town and scum perspective. You have to stop slippery slop-ing by thinking that because one point may be true, then XYZ other points must be true too, and that it proves your point.
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On October 07 2016 08:11 Calix wrote: You are currently faking a spastic attack, kk.
This has taken up like, two pages so I'm going to give you a break to do something else.
If there is one thing I am not, it's fake. I have never even tried to fake anything as scum, and if I were to try, I would fail at it because I'm an honest person.
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On October 07 2016 08:17 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 08:15 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 08:11 Calix wrote: You are currently faking a spastic attack, kk.
This has taken up like, two pages so I'm going to give you a break to do something else. No. Get to the bottom of this. Fucking try, FOR ONCE IN YOUR MAFIA CAREER, to look at both town and scum perspective. You have to stop slippery slop-ing by thinking that because one point may be true, then XYZ other points must be true too, and that it proves your point. Fine, I'll hear you out. It's not like anyone else is even here to listen to us bickering.
Hear me out? I've nothing else to say. I've refuted your points.
What I want is either you to continue your tunnel and realize that you fucking suck because I am town or open your eyes now.
I am not leaving without that conclusion. I'm honestly mad that you sr me.
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The only good thing that is coming out of this is easy post-farming.
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On October 07 2016 08:25 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 08:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 08:17 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 08:15 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 08:11 Calix wrote: You are currently faking a spastic attack, kk.
This has taken up like, two pages so I'm going to give you a break to do something else. No. Get to the bottom of this. Fucking try, FOR ONCE IN YOUR MAFIA CAREER, to look at both town and scum perspective. You have to stop slippery slop-ing by thinking that because one point may be true, then XYZ other points must be true too, and that it proves your point. Fine, I'll hear you out. It's not like anyone else is even here to listen to us bickering. Hear me out? I've nothing else to say. I've refuted your points. What I want is either you to continue your tunnel and realize that you fucking suck because I am town or open your eyes now. I am not leaving without that conclusion. I'm honestly mad that you sr me. That was me going "talk about something that you want to discuss with me". You know, like scum-reads or some shit. I lack the energy to start tunneling again now that I've stopped it, so no way.
I can only think of irrelevant shitposts at the moment. I'm in no mood to talk scum-reads. If you want me to post the shitposts I have in mind, just ask.
Calix, other than Politico, have you ever gotten a scum with your tunneling?
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Ok, ok. I will make the shittiest defense to ever have existed in the history of forum mafia.
This is a defense by a bad player intended for another bad player.
rum roll*
+ Show Spoiler +I know you think I'm "full of shit", but I promise you that I am town.
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On October 07 2016 08:44 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 08:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:Ok, ok. I will make the shittiest defense to ever have existed in the history of forum mafia. This is a defense by a bad player intended for another bad player. rum roll*+ Show Spoiler +I know you think I'm "full of shit", but I promise you that I am town. "I'm full of shit and I'm town." I'm done clogging up the thread for tonight. I'm Calix and you're welcome.
"Full of shit" was quoting what you think of me as a person. Needless to say I do not think that way. I consider myself an honest person.
I have re-read your arguments to back up your sr on me: -My vote was bad; NAI unless you think I am mafia and am mafia with Palamar; -Discrediting a town-read: No shame here. I am having lots of fun doing it as well. Also, note that you have done this this game as well. You have called my arguments shitty when you town-read me.
That's what I saw. The similarity between the two arguments? They both apply to you as well. Somehow they make me mafia but don't make you mafia. Same as you having the same reads and opinions as HF but him being mafia. Your play is contradictory and bad. Don't ask me to "step it up".
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Would be nice if you could at least address the points I am making in my defence, lol.On October 07 2016 07:57 NeverUnlucky wrote: Also, I fucking hard-claimed to you D1. Do you think I would do this as scum? [/QUOTE]
Why would mafia NU NK HF whom he thought was a veteran that kills visitors and on whom he has a scum-read?
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Yeah. Like, how about you comment on the recent thread clogging?
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Drinking game: Every time I say "bad", take a shot.
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Aww, Oats did not show up for our lil' night conversation. Shucks.
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On October 07 2016 11:53 NeverUnlucky wrote: Aww, Oats did not show up for our lil' night conversation. Shucks. Oh, nevermind.
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On October 07 2016 11:35 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 09:17 NeverUnlucky wrote: Drinking game: Every time I say "bad", take a shot. I'm dead now thanks. Anyway I think we should be lynching Marv today instead of Palmar. lol
I don't feel strongly about either.
On October 07 2016 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote: How do people feel about koshi now?
Me thinks Koshi is town.
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On October 07 2016 11:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Nu and calix shit is 100℅ tvt Yeah, Calix shit.
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Hello, Scott. Did you do well on your test?
What made you lean town DDD?
What conclusion do you make with graxk? I assume null like super.
What makes you say that I have given a lot of info? It seems somewhat inaccurate to me.
Where did oats point out inconsistencies?
We have mostly similar reads, but i disagree with the reasoning you provide/dont think it matches who you describe.
Calix has a vagina btw.
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On October 07 2016 12:37 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 08:29 Palmar wrote: sucks marv rolled mafia.I never got a good solvygamey vibe from him and now I know why.
But ok Why aren't you voting for him then? Where's the phat case? Lmao
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Interesting conjecture. In a similar line of thought, sxum xould be rown reading their big dicked teammate.
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On October 07 2016 12:48 Grackaroni wrote: My thought going into the day was that HF would be the kill and town reads are solidifying themselves, so now you're seeing the "thinks he's super smart" variant of Grackaroni. This Grackaroni will probably disappear around the time Palmar flips scum but until then you're stuck with him. I already miss the clown variant of graxk.
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Mhhm, Palmar is town. Don't dare say my EoD vote was bad anymore.
Damdred/Scott/JAT/Marv -- 3 are mafia.
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On October 07 2016 21:17 NeverUnlucky wrote: Mhhm, Palmar is town. Don't dare say my EoD vote was bad anymore.
Damdred/Scott/JAT/Marv -- 3 are mafia.
Calix, is it safe to assume you dropped your sr on me? You did not follow-up your tunnel with what I have left you when you left, and your two arguments have been disproved.
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On October 07 2016 21:25 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 21:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 21:17 NeverUnlucky wrote: Mhhm, Palmar is town. Don't dare say my EoD vote was bad anymore.
Damdred/Scott/JAT/Marv -- 3 are mafia. Calix, is it safe to assume you dropped your sr on me? You did not follow-up your tunnel with what I have left you when you left, and your two arguments have been disproved. Her arguments were actually pretty good. You just have a lot of other things going for you.
What you think of her arguments does not change the fact that they have been disproved.
At EoD, the two main wagons were town (3 if you count HF). I voted for the player I had the most reasons to scum-read. I chose my poison, and with plamar trying now, I think I made the right decision.
Discrediting a tr - I started calling her bad as banter (inspired by Plamar's play), but then she showed that she really was bad so I kept going along with it. It is not an argument to sr someone because she does it herself and HF did it and flipped town. It just makes me anti-town. Not scum.
Bad arguments. Not to mention she did not address some of my points.
I had Soctt/DDD/Marv/JAT/HF as scum D1. Note this for post-game credz.
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Is Superbia one of Plamar's sheep or one of Grack's sheep?
(The Grack tribe is the superior one.)
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On October 07 2016 21:50 Superbia wrote: Hahaha as if.
Plamargard: Misguided town + Plamar whom I saved D1. Known for trainwrecks.
Gracktopia: Joke machine + shitposting town who defended town (Super, Bats, Plamar*) and whose early reads D1 reads are D2's thread consensus reads. We have cookies.
Swear your allegiance to Grackaroni and enjoy immortality and glory.
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On October 07 2016 21:51 Superbia wrote: I walk a certain road and I generally don't care if people are walking before or behind me. As long as people are walking in similar direction.
There's a long road ahead. You do not want to be alone at night. You must choose a faction to live on.
Besides, I have been supporting the Dutch football team since 2010 and am an EDM zealot. You will find yourself home in Gracktopia. NU promise.
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Mafia already has enough troops with Calix being the 4th mafia.
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Superbia hasn't made a funny post in a while. Lynch him if he keeps being boring.
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Marv, have you given out your reads?
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Stutters / Scott:
The empty slot.
On October 04 2016 06:40 Stutters695 wrote:You town this time?
Enters the game by asking Calix if she is town. Not really telling though I am leaning to think this is more of a townie question than a scum question.
On October 04 2016 07:47 Stutters695 wrote: What is peeking? Theoretical / not game-relevant question.
On October 04 2016 10:04 Stutters695 wrote: Is calix this abrasive when she's town generally? Another question about Calix's alignment. I think it is a genuine one for I cannot see it as a shade-throw. He looks interested in finding Calix's alignment. More town than scum post.
On October 05 2016 12:26 Stutters695 wrote: Goddamn you guys post too much. Catching up. Last thing we've heard from him. He never caught up.
Unlike what I I remembered of Stutts' filter, none of his posts are scummy.
Replaced by Scott:
On October 07 2016 06:20 scott31337 wrote: Hey all - I'm at like page 71 and catching up.
NAI.
On October 07 2016 12:23 scott31337 wrote:Koshi - Carefree Koshi, leaning town for now. Calix - He hates it when I put him in the tinfoil town pile, so I'll do it again. marvellosity - town, pretty confident of - if he got mafia again he'd be all mopey and shit Palmar - Null/Leaning Scum - Trying to coast, doesn't give much for info. (Lynch Calix) justanothertownie - leaning scum, he's doing the not getting info/shitposting JAT - which is a mafia trait for him. Damdred-slight townlean/almost null - very little to go on. NeverUnlucky - town, probably #2 - lots of info, somewhat helpful. Oatsmaster - townlean - points out some inconstistencies in posts that I've seen Superbia - Uggg - kind of like last game - not very helpful - null Grackaroni - like last game too but nothing of help/doing/etc. That's where I'm at now - Lynch Palmar/JAT preferred, Poke Super and Grack some more.
It feels like the explanation he gives for his reads do not match the player he associated them with. ie Oats pointing out inconsitencies, me having lots of info, JAT shitposting.
His reads criteria are inconsistent too - Palmar lean-scum, Damdred lean-town, Super + Grack null for essentially the same reasoning.
Also am uncertain of the validity of his read on Marv.
This post going somewhat along thread consensus left many questions unanswered which he still has not addressed.
Scummy-ish post for the mischaracterizations of the players and a very measly contribution (if any).
On October 07 2016 12:25 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 08:29 Palmar wrote: sucks marv rolled mafia.I never got a good solvygamey vibe from him and now I know why.
But ok Why aren't you voting for him then? Where's the phat case?
This post is NAI as well imo.
My conclusion: No real reason to scum-read this slot at the moment. \0 at its best.
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^ I quoted every one of their posts (minus scott's double post). 7 posts is all there is to their filter.
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Woah, marv has 8 pages of filter. I can barely remember any of his posts. That's telling. May filter dive him later when I get some motivation to do so.
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On October 08 2016 01:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2016 21:19 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2016 21:13 Grackaroni wrote:On October 07 2016 21:10 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2016 21:08 Grackaroni wrote:On October 07 2016 21:01 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2016 20:47 Grackaroni wrote:On October 07 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2016 20:28 Grackaroni wrote: [quote] You called me obvious town around this point yesterday for doing exactly this. Jesus Koshi. I was probably sleep deprived back then. I also don't recall that at all. I do recall I thought you were town though. Somewhere. Yeah I just checked you're in pretty deep here Koshi. First you were arguing that I was bussing JAT. Now you're citing JAT's reasoning as a reason to scum read me without a connection to JAT when it's basically a summary of all the reasons you town read me to begin with. On October 06 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote: Ohyeah I remember why Palmar is in my scumlist. He wanted to kill both Calix and Grack in consecutive posts when they are obv town.
Now that I reread his filter he is 100% mafia on Calix the entire game. The guy is not this bad.
##vote Palmar
On October 06 2016 04:19 Koshi wrote:On October 06 2016 03:59 Holyflare wrote: Koshi, why is it you town read grack? I'm curious. I had a +1 after his name after I did the read up. I don't know what post it exactly was. I think it was for going against the stream and pushing the Calix town read? That being said. He and rels owned my ass superhard last time so I should be still very careful. On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote: Grackaroni: Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.
Those are 2 completely different instances. The reason I called you town in the first quote was because you went against some people pushing your reads. Now I am saying that JAT reason to scumread you is the most sheepable of all his reads. You put those together and call it deep shit? lol Yes when you read JAT's "sheepable reasons" the complete opposite way only the day before. You were one of the people who targeted JAT while he wasn't there. You town read me for defending Calix. Yes and? What? It seems pretty self explanatory to me. Now that Palmar is off the lynch block you're looking for a backup and you're using some reasoning you couldn't possibly agree with to try to support killing me. I am not doing that at all. Not at fucking all. marv/JAT/Palmar and if a back up is needed I am thinking Damdred/Scott. Never did I want to go to you. you think both marv and palmar are mafia?
Who do you think are the mafia, hmm? ^^
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Jat, how about you kindly remove me from the /ignore list so we can have a little chat? I will try not to be abrasive, as I can understand it can ruin the fun of the game sometimes. :3
On October 07 2016 18:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote: anyone who tries to give reasons to lynch palmar is clearly not reading the thread because there is nothing new that can be added to the stuff already said about palmar.
The fact that there is nothing new in itself is a reason to scumread palmar btw. Yes, he is a lazy asshole as town but not when he is the designated lynch.
First I want to address this. You say that Plamar is lazy as town unless he is set to be the lynch.
Considering that he has made some attempts to contribute this morning, why is your vote still on him? What makes him scummy?
My understanding of your vote was that it was a pressure vote to get him to contribute, which he has done to an extent. Therefore, unless you think he is scummy and can show me how, I don't understand why your vote is still on him.
On October 07 2016 19:16 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 19:14 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 19:13 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 19:09 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 19:06 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 19:03 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 19:00 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:59 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:50 Calix wrote: [quote]
Eww gross post.
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Eww another gross post.
Why would me being "passive compared to NU" mean anything? You're not actually accusing me of being passive in general, so your comment is meaningless.
You're not accusing me of being mafia. You just FELT the need to make a comment saying that I'm less townie than NU...but you don't think it makes me scum so again, this comment is meaningless.
What the fuck was the point? All you said was "Calix is less townie than NU" but you don't think I'm mafia either so it looks like you just posted some bullshit for the sake of posting it. The point was very simple. People (oats I think) called your shitfight obviously TvT. I disagree with that - this should not be a reason to townread you. Okay so you were just discrediting a town-read that Oats had even though you don't scum-read me either. Good to know. I did not say that either. You are somewhere between low end of null and scum. Haven't made up my mind yet. Duh, obviously you're not going to directly say that. You saw someone give out a town-read. Your first response was to attack the town-read even though you claim you don't scum-read me either. Your reasoning is that I'm "less townie than NU" (lol) This reads like scum rationale over a townie mindset. Are you intentionally misrepresenting me or just bad at reading? I saw someone throw out a reason to townread you which I think is faulty. I mentioned that. The end. Never said that I scumread you in this context or any of the other stuff you are saying right now. My only message was that the shitfight should be treated as NAI regarding you. Keep proving my point, lol. Why don't you case me and I case you if I'm 'null-scum'? Sound fair? I will case you whenever I think I need to which is not right now since I am not trying to lynch you. Since you seem to be trying to lynch me you should probably case me if you can though. So go ahead. If you're not trying to lynch me then who are you trying to lynch? And if you're not trying to lynch anyone then what are you doing again? I am lynching Palmar right now and have said that and also voted him for ages. That should be pretty obvious. I would love to keep listening to your bullshit but unfortunately I have to work now.
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On October 08 2016 02:25 justanothertownie wrote: And I will immediately prove myself as a giant hypocrite by sayng that as long as Palmar and marv keep scumreading each other the likelihood that I will vote outside of those 2 is very low and I think not solving this today would be a big mistake.
Why Plam over marv may I ask?
Marv is the scummier of the two in my eyes.
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Ok, I follow you.
Let's say you weren't committed to voting Marv/Palmar depending on their interactions (Which may never evolve given Plam's recent apathy), who would you be voting?
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Hmm, nevermind. Looking over your filter it's clear that it would be Superbia.
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Perhaps you would like to elaborate in a more concise fashion now?
If not, what is your opinion on Scott/Stutts? What is your opinion on my simili-filter-dive of that slot?
Also, I've seen you say that you "null-scum" read Calix. Care to go more in detail?
If there is any other subject of discussion you can come up with, I am all ears.
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On October 08 2016 02:54 justanothertownie wrote: On the other hand I did not have that much of a problem with his content and he said he was sick. Maybe he will get replaced. Similarly, you said that Stutters would get modkilled if he was town (Or I think that was you...). Does him not being MKed but instead replaced make you feel he is town/scum or do you think that your previous argument was just bad?
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I am really ambivalent on Jat at the moment. I am neither convinced he is town nor convinced he is scum.
Pros: + Show Spoiler [Pre-flip associations are bad bad bad…] +I cannot think of a scumteam that makes sense for him with bats and HF dead. Did not like Calix's 'case' on him (Maybe it's my distrust of her, idk) Don't remember Plam nor Oats stating why they were voting for him ie indication of a bad train. He is pugnacious.
Cons: Seemed defensive No town tone (To me that's a big one)
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On October 08 2016 03:57 marvellosity wrote: most of the game is just other people asking people (e.g. me) to 'do things' as if that's doing something themselves. it isn't. no-one is actually doing anything.
That's my biggest FM pet peeve.
On October 08 2016 04:02 marvellosity wrote: i wish you guys had just gone along with me more on the palmar thing, because he had a half hour flurry of decent posts and now he's coasting on it because everyone went 'oooh that looked nice'. it's so dull
:/
What is your Jat read?
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On October 08 2016 04:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 00:57 NeverUnlucky wrote: Woah, marv has 8 pages of filter. I can barely remember any of his posts. That's telling. May filter dive him later when I get some motivation to do so. you have 13 and i think much the same. so de facto you're scummier. except i don't particularly think you are, so meh.
Comparing yourself to others is a common thing for you, mmk.
Surely you remember my posts. Just think of Shitposts, Powerpuff Girls and "bad".
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On October 08 2016 03:57 marvellosity wrote: Palmar isn't being supertown despite his own proclamations, so i can basically conclude he's unable to give any reasonable explanation for his actions
Ok, but why are you voting him?
"Not supertown" != Mafia
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On October 08 2016 04:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 04:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 08 2016 03:57 marvellosity wrote: Palmar isn't being supertown despite his own proclamations, so i can basically conclude he's unable to give any reasonable explanation for his actions Ok, but why are you voting him? "Not supertown" != Mafia i explained so i won't again. Quote it at least. No reason to act anti-town.
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On October 07 2016 06:31 marvellosity wrote: might as well elaborate on palmar a little, pros and cons:
flicking through his filter just now, there are quite a few posts that look decently like flippant town palmar
but he criticised the lynch while doing absolutely nothing about it. it's an awfully long time ago now but it reminds me very much of rockband where he shat all over the prplhz lynch d1 while doing absolutely nothing about it.
he voted for hf instead (on nothing) having previously kinda townread him, and then subsequently townread him (????). like he says hf looks fine, votes him for a total non-reason at deadline while doing nothing to dissuade the bats wagon, and then calls him town after. it's all just nonsense and palmar doesn't generally do nonsense of that variety as town.
plus there were one or two other things i picked out on day 1 that i don't remember now
but hey if he's town he can so easily turn things around, because i'll always listen to him (which he knows)
The bolded is a decent argument. But it's really all there is to your case.
"plus there were one or two other things i picked out on day 1 that i don't remember now" isn't really helpful.
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On October 08 2016 04:29 marvellosity wrote: don't understand how you don't get the paragraph above the bolded one isn't correct/relevant either
especially as he's more prone to it as mafia (hence providing it as an example).
but it's simply scummy on its own to bitch about a lynch while doing nothing about it.
That argument is inside the bolded paragraph, kindda. You like used the same argument twice, lol.
Why are you so lackadaisical about not having a convincing case enough for others to vote for your scum-read?
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Town would be inclined to convince others of voting who they think are the scum.
Your carelessness over the case makes me think you made a case for the sake of making a case so that the annoying townie does not call you out for not doing shit.
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On October 08 2016 04:34 marvellosity wrote: funny question given my push on bats was the one convincing enough for town to lynch him and then today i'm the only one actually sustaining any pressure on a scumread
it's kinda surreal tbh.
You made a case on bats? New information to me.
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On October 08 2016 04:35 marvellosity wrote: that would make you an idiot, so i guess we're done talking
You are scum.
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That whining is obviously phony.
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On October 08 2016 04:46 marvellosity wrote: nu: 'marv you so unconvincing with trying to get people lynched' me: uh, i started the train on bats, lots of people followed, argued my lynch near deadline, got my lynch (for good or bad), attacked/made the case on Palmar, questioned him after he had a bit of activity, Palmar failed or refused to answer any of the questions. nu: oh marv you so unconvincing, you don't try to get people to believe in your case. you scum!
really is brilliant
Yours Truly NU
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On October 08 2016 04:49 Calix wrote: This is kind of why I don't think Palmar is scum either. Both of them are harping on about their ~speshul connection~ and how well they know each other, etc etc, so what I'm wondering is why either of them would (as scum) keep drawing attention to this while they are pushing each other.
It's poor play from scum because if one of them gets (mis) lynched then the other one looks absolutely terrible. All for the grand total of...one mislynch!
You'll notice this is a similar - if not identical - argument to what was being used with me at the start of the game when I was attacking NU. That's because it's a similar situation.
In AI 2, Banana and Firebringer did a similar thing D1. They made a 1v1 and said that only one of them was going to be lynched that day and drew a lot of attention to themselves by doing so.
Both were scum (Executioner vs. Godfather).
I did a similar thing as Serial Killer in 3FaS with Unknown.
Like I get that it's hard to conceive that scum would draw attention to themselves from a logical standpoint, but such situations have happened in the past. I won't push this any further as we're going in the wifom grounds.
Also, I get the feeling that Palmar is not pushing Marv. His argument is basically that we should lynch marv when plamar flips. That's not really a push. More "fearmongering" as Koshi would say. I think I actually find marv more town than Plam in that 1v1.
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Calix, what do you make of jat's recent posts?
And if you think he is still a mob, who do you see him teamed with?
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On October 08 2016 05:04 Calix wrote: I am of the opinion that the majority of the scum are among the less influential low-posters with one active person who is steering the thread in a direction that they want, so the lurkers are my default scum team for pretty much everyone, lol.
I'll look at JAT, one moment.
So 2 of Scott/DDD/Superbia/Koshi (Is he considered a lurkerrr?)/Plamar are scum iyo?
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On October 08 2016 05:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 04:48 marvellosity wrote: calix, is nu terrible?
if not i'm gonna have to downgrade him he is very prone to ridiculous plots and tinfoiling, and his reads aren't based on anything
Yours Truly NU
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On October 08 2016 05:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 05:08 Palmar wrote:On October 08 2016 04:48 marvellosity wrote: calix, is nu terrible?
if not i'm gonna have to downgrade him he is very prone to ridiculous plots and tinfoiling, and his reads aren't based on anything Surely not a post with a little relevance?!
Half-Life 3 will come out before Plamar becomes relevant.
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On October 08 2016 05:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 04:48 marvellosity wrote: calix, is nu terrible?
if not i'm gonna have to downgrade him he is very prone to ridiculous plots and tinfoiling, and his reads aren't based on anything
I'll give Plamar his daily dose of tinfoil.
The HF kill made me wonder why mafia did not kill inside the town circle that had formed D1 (Koshi, Super, Grack, Calix, Oats, me). My tinfoiling senses tell me that it is because there is a deep wolf inside the circle. My logic tells me the mafia are bad players and need to kill the best (by reputation) player in the game.
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Who are you and where is the real Plamar?
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On October 08 2016 05:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 05:20 NeverUnlucky wrote: Who are you and where is the real Plamar? wtf are you on about? "I am being completely reasonable here."
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On October 08 2016 05:11 Calix wrote: With regards to JAT...
- Makes a valid point that nobody (myself included) has bothered to make a case against him after Day 1. - Claims Palmar has not left his mafia range. Seems to think that it is TvS and that the town will make himself obvious. - Scum-reads Superbia/ Damdred. - Makes a large post concluding Scott/ Stutters is null. - Correctly claims that defensiveness is not scum-indicative.
Overall, it's not terrible. I don't think he says anything super-townie/ something mafia would never say but his posts didn't give me the vibe that he was sitting on the sidelines and pushing mafia objectives so I have no complaints.
Vote Damdred with me.
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Am I wrong to say that you two are starting to tr each other?
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On October 08 2016 05:35 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 05:26 NeverUnlucky wrote: Am I wrong to say that you two are starting to tr each other? yes, but to be honest due to tiny brain syndrome, it's probably best you assume you're not.
kk, thanks master Plamar.
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On October 08 2016 06:53 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 04:37 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2016 04:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 08 2016 04:34 marvellosity wrote: funny question given my push on bats was the one convincing enough for town to lynch him and then today i'm the only one actually sustaining any pressure on a scumread
it's kinda surreal tbh. You made a case on bats? New information to me. go check the voting thread. marv votes. oh look then everyone follows. christ. I think there's a pretty big disconnect between how important you were and how important you think you were in yesterday's votes.
Agreed.
Grack, may we be the voice of the downtrodden people by sending Damdred to the morgue.
"Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. [carves ["NU"] into poster on wall] The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me [NU]."
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oATS, WHY ARE YOU VOTING SCOTT? i CAN'T REMEMBER YOU TALKING ABOUT HIM EVER BEFORE.
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On October 08 2016 17:11 Calix wrote: I still think JAT is the scummiest player in the thread. As flagged up earlier, I get the impression that he just pops in to make leading comments that serve the mafia agenda. It's a Saturday morning so no harm in me reading his filter now.
And I think the other two are among you, Damdred, Superbia because I think the majority of the scum are passive/ lack influence.
You could add Palmar/ Koshi but I think those two are town.
I have yet to see a reason from you not to vote Damdred.
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On October 08 2016 21:29 Calix wrote: On Day 1, I town-read him.
I didn't have one for most of Day 2 since he didn't do anything.
Now I'm skeptical because of that horrendous vote. Would you kindly share your opinion on Oats?
Personally, my town-read of him is fading out.
He asks for others' opinions more than he gives his. He mischaracterizes stuff sometimes. Connects with 1 - no read progression/I don't know why he is voting X. Was pretty defensive over his vote D1 when no accusations against him were made. Much of an overreaction.
(NAI) His fake-voting puzzles me. Really.
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On October 08 2016 21:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 06:54 Calix wrote: kk jAT I just have one question and I don't want some ultra-detailed response, just curious. Like how would you sum up what you've done this game and how do you think you've helped the town?
I suck at looking for town motives so let's just ask you.
And I don't want "lol playing like my usual town self" as a response, fuck that. I want evidence from this game. I can't relate to that meta shit and can't get it so why would I sheep it? lol My priorities in a town game besides lynching mafia are the following: 1. Don't get mislynched/establish innocence.2. Push the game in a good direction. This means don't allow people to not explain their shit, ideally have 2 wagons day1. Stuff like that.
Ok, he's just bad. He can be town for now.
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On October 08 2016 21:29 Calix wrote: On Day 1, I town-read him.
I didn't have one for most of Day 2 since he didn't do anything.
Now I'm skeptical because of that horrendous vote.
I mean, I don't see a single good vote in the train you are leading. Plam is sheeping you, Grack ???, Oats ???, and you are not confident in him being scum anymore. It seems like you just want him lynched to get things cleared though I don't know what exactly.
Frankly, I don't know why you scum-read him now. And he makes a good point when he says that no cases were made on him D2 re: if there were cases on him, they are outdated and maybe connect with his interaction with BS who flipped town.
So... why do you and the others on the train sr him?
Who would your vote be going to otherwise?
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On October 08 2016 21:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 21:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 08 2016 21:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 08 2016 06:54 Calix wrote: kk jAT I just have one question and I don't want some ultra-detailed response, just curious. Like how would you sum up what you've done this game and how do you think you've helped the town?
I suck at looking for town motives so let's just ask you.
And I don't want "lol playing like my usual town self" as a response, fuck that. I want evidence from this game. I can't relate to that meta shit and can't get it so why would I sheep it? lol My priorities in a town game besides lynching mafia are the following: 1. Don't get mislynched/establish innocence.2. Push the game in a good direction. This means don't allow people to not explain their shit, ideally have 2 wagons day1. Stuff like that. Ok, he's just bad. He can be town for now. If everyone on TL was as good at this as I am then town would never lose a game. Just sayin. Oh, I have no doubt about that with the way you push your scum-reads. Other people who've played with you in the past considered your play to be naturally underwhelming.
Self-centered, egoistical players do not make town win. Sorry to say.
Your ego:
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On October 08 2016 22:10 Calix wrote: That's a lovely self-portrait, NU. Why, thank you.
Also, why did you do a "tl;dr" for a one-liner, lmao?
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"And this is odd because I swear he was scum-reading/ voting for HF earlier and I have no idea how his read changed from the end of D1 to this post."
He is still clearly scum-reading HF in this post you quoted ("Hf might be the mafia vig that would be interesting", mafia vig, wtf lol). There is no incongruity there.
I don't get point 1. Point 2 is ok.
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NU likes Koshi's points.
NU is but a simple sheep. NU agrees with Koshi, NU sheeps Koshi.
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On October 08 2016 23:11 Koshi wrote: superbia is mafia as well.
Not sure I agree, but I would lynch him nonetheless for stopping to make funny posts.
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On October 08 2016 23:59 Palmar wrote: Wow I go afk and the narrative changes... who would've thought??
lalalala can't hear you over how much mafia you are
lul
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Palmar's first two filter pages are town except for his rude modkill post. Me not sure if Palmar is scum.
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My modkill benefits scum, so it is a scummy thing to say, yes.
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On October 08 2016 23:53 Calix wrote: I'll drop my vote before I leave.
I also like Koshi's point about "playing right above not getting lynched" as a descriptor of Palmar's posts, it's quite accurate imo. I'll consider it.
Would also consider voting for Scott.
As it stands, I'm just unvoting for now.
Yes, it is accurate. Is it scum-AI though?
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I just town-read him because he was funny and wanted him around. Now I don't mind him eating rope.
+ Show Spoiler [*giggles*] +On September 29 2016 19:10 Superbia wrote: I will roll PR or mafia this game.
I can feel it in my bones. And he probably did not roll PR.
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I'm down for a Superbia shenannie.
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Also liking the new Jat.
Calix, do you still think Jat is the scummiest player?
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Yeah yeah yeah, a pretty good case.
I don't feel strongly about Palmar. I would not say that he is town, but other Koshi's survivalist argument, I can't find reasons to think he is mafia. His two first filter pages gave me town vibes.
Palmar / Super makes sense given their interactions. Damdred would be the other one. Damdred pretty much fits in every scum team as he plays the game so distantly. Maybe Grack.
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Heads = Palmar
Tails = Super
*Flips*
Palmar it is.
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[EBWOP]
Heads = Palmar
Tails = Super
*Flips*
Palmar it is.
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I agree. I would add in Oats as a last resort. I remember Palmar telling Calix that Oats had a townie post where he posted 3 different ideas in 1 post and said that mafia would have taken the time to structure the post. Also don't remember Oatsy commenting on either Superbia or Plam.
Be wary, Calix. I am not sold about Plamar being mafia yet. Don't sell the bear's skin before you have caught the bear.
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On October 09 2016 02:54 NeverUnlucky wrote: I agree. I would add in Oats as a last resort. I remember Palmar telling Calix that Oats had a townie post where he posted 3 different ideas in 1 post and said that mafia would have taken the time to structure the post. Also don't remember Oatsy commenting on either Superbia or Plam.
Be wary, Calix. I am not sold about Plamar being mafia yet. Don't sell the bear's skin before you have caught the bear. Gosh, every time I read myself I cringe at how bad my English post structure is.
The post I am talking aboot.
On October 05 2016 01:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote: NU, is calix mafia? ##vote superbia Calix the fake activity is refering to you being mafia and just pushing shit for the sake of creating posts.
Nu, can you explain why stutters is mafia? This one here. He's talking about like 3 different things in that post and somehow votes Superbia in the process. The point is that it's so obviously weird to structure a post like that, that I would think there's a tiny chance self-aware mafia might stop himself from making this post, or at least stop to restructure it.
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On October 05 2016 21:09 Palmar wrote: Superbia is also too sure I'm town. Not even marv knows I'm town yet, so there's that.
This post puzzles me.
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On October 09 2016 02:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 21:09 Palmar wrote: Superbia is also too sure I'm town. Not even marv knows I'm town yet, so there's that. This post puzzles me.
This post leads me to believe that if one of Plam/Super is town, Plamar is the one. Super's early tr of Plam would be a TMI.
I think I prefer voting Super actually.
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On October 09 2016 03:03 Calix wrote: NU, please quote which Palmar posts have town motivation to you. :c
ok
On October 04 2016 06:50 Palmar wrote: rolled town, don't have to do shit I want to believe this. Scum don't always claim they are town (I know I don't). Minor point :3
+ Show Spoiler [Funny/funny-ish posts :P] +On October 04 2016 07:47 Palmar wrote: ok marv is 100% scum
##vote marvellosity On October 04 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 07:57 Grackaroni wrote:On October 04 2016 07:47 Palmar wrote: ok marv is 100% scum
##vote marvellosity I can't kill Marv because I need to sheep him. is fine we sheep or kill On October 04 2016 08:12 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 08:07 Calix wrote: If either of you two are scum, you're doing a great job of putting me to sleep with dumb meta talk. 100% calix scum too. calix town meta is talk many words calix scum meta is then ???? On October 05 2016 01:14 Palmar wrote: this #number thing instead of quotes has got to stop. On October 05 2016 01:40 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 01:40 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:33 Palmar wrote:On October 05 2016 01:30 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 01:28 Palmar wrote: Yo who wants to spend 20 minutes talking intimately? Yo who wants to spend 20 minutes listening to how I'm like, Numbah Wun? I'll bite. I was mafia that game, I'm actually a really nice guy, except when I'm an asshole. But most of the time that I'm not an asshole I am nice. What do you think of Holyflare? Particularly this reply to you voting NU: On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.
More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. The bad is leaving himself an out, but he's essentially saying it's scummy that you voted him. Terribly sorry to interrupt your most intimate conversation but what is YOUR opinion on HF? Feel free to answer after calix does if necessary. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 01:43 Palmar wrote: Thing about HF is I've convinced myself I need to figure him out, which is why I'm interested in him.
Also someone kidnapped the real Koshi, but I'm not sure fake koshi is mafia. But he's not real koshi.
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 01:33 Palmar wrote: [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 01:30 Calix wrote: [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 01:28 Palmar wrote: Yo who wants to spend 20 minutes talking intimately?
Yo who wants to spend 20 minutes listening to how I'm like, Numbah Wun?
I'll bite.[/QUOTE] I was mafia that game, I'm actually a really nice guy, except when I'm an asshole. But most of the time that I'm not an asshole I am nice.
What do you think of Holyflare? Particularly this reply to you voting NU:
[QUOTE]On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.
More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. [/QUOTE]
The bad is leaving himself an out, but he's essentially saying it's scummy that you voted him.[/QUOTE] He makes an ok point on HF.
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 01:37 Palmar wrote: [QUOTE]On October 04 2016 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote: NU, is calix mafia? ##vote superbia Calix the fake activity is refering to you being mafia and just pushing shit for the sake of creating posts.
Nu, can you explain why stutters is mafia?[/QUOTE]
This one here.
He's talking about like 3 different things in that post and somehow votes Superbia in the process. The point is that it's so obviously weird to structure a post like that, that I would think there's a tiny chance self-aware mafia might stop himself from making this post, or at least stop to restructure it.[/QUOTE] Makes an original point on Oats. Special way to town-read someone.
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 08:45 Palmar wrote: I am not mafia please guys show mercy[/QUOTE] This, however, would be something scum would say more. ie not claiming they're town by the positive but claiming they are not mafia by the negative.
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 21:26 Palmar wrote: I don't like Calix all that much. I was super impressed with her when I was mafia, but I don't think her approach this game is nearly as good. Maybe it's because I'm not aware of whether or not she's being clever (you tend to overestimate townies when you're scum) but who knows. [/QUOTE] Feels really genuine. Calix really sucked ass day 1.
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 21:28 Palmar wrote: I also think Grack might be mafia, he has no agenda that I can tell, he just sort of exists.[/QUOTE] First to expressively suspect Grack - original read.
That's what I got from the first two pages. I am having a rough time wording my thoughts regarding his posts. I just don't think they really come from mafia.
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On October 09 2016 03:03 Calix wrote: NU, please quote which Palmar posts have town motivation to you. :c
ok
On October 04 2016 06:50 Palmar wrote: rolled town, don't have to do shit I want to believe this. Scum don't always claim they are town (I know I don't). Minor point :3
+ Show Spoiler [Funny/funny-ish posts :P] +On October 04 2016 07:47 Palmar wrote: ok marv is 100% scum
##vote marvellosity On October 04 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 07:57 Grackaroni wrote:On October 04 2016 07:47 Palmar wrote: ok marv is 100% scum
##vote marvellosity I can't kill Marv because I need to sheep him. is fine we sheep or kill On October 04 2016 08:12 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 08:07 Calix wrote: If either of you two are scum, you're doing a great job of putting me to sleep with dumb meta talk. 100% calix scum too. calix town meta is talk many words calix scum meta is then ???? On October 05 2016 01:14 Palmar wrote: this #number thing instead of quotes has got to stop. On October 05 2016 01:40 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 01:40 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:33 Palmar wrote:On October 05 2016 01:30 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 01:28 Palmar wrote: Yo who wants to spend 20 minutes talking intimately? Yo who wants to spend 20 minutes listening to how I'm like, Numbah Wun? I'll bite. I was mafia that game, I'm actually a really nice guy, except when I'm an asshole. But most of the time that I'm not an asshole I am nice. What do you think of Holyflare? Particularly this reply to you voting NU: On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.
More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. The bad is leaving himself an out, but he's essentially saying it's scummy that you voted him. Terribly sorry to interrupt your most intimate conversation but what is YOUR opinion on HF? Feel free to answer after calix does if necessary. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 01:43 Palmar wrote: Thing about HF is I've convinced myself I need to figure him out, which is why I'm interested in him.
Also someone kidnapped the real Koshi, but I'm not sure fake koshi is mafia. But he's not real koshi.
On October 05 2016 01:33 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 01:30 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 01:28 Palmar wrote: Yo who wants to spend 20 minutes talking intimately?
Yo who wants to spend 20 minutes listening to how I'm like, Numbah Wun?
I'll bite. I was mafia that game, I'm actually a really nice guy, except when I'm an asshole. But most of the time that I'm not an asshole I am nice. What do you think of Holyflare? Particularly this reply to you voting NU: On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way. More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. The bad is leaving himself an out, but he's essentially saying it's scummy that you voted him. He makes an ok point on HF.
On October 05 2016 01:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote: NU, is calix mafia? ##vote superbia Calix the fake activity is refering to you being mafia and just pushing shit for the sake of creating posts.
Nu, can you explain why stutters is mafia? This one here. He's talking about like 3 different things in that post and somehow votes Superbia in the process. The point is that it's so obviously weird to structure a post like that, that I would think there's a tiny chance self-aware mafia might stop himself from making this post, or at least stop to restructure it. Makes an original point on Oats. Special way to town-read someone.
On October 05 2016 08:45 Palmar wrote: I am not mafia please guys show mercy This, however, would be something scum would say more. ie not claiming they're town by the positive but claiming they are not mafia by the negative.
On October 05 2016 21:26 Palmar wrote: I don't like Calix all that much. I was super impressed with her when I was mafia, but I don't think her approach this game is nearly as good. Maybe it's because I'm not aware of whether or not she's being clever (you tend to overestimate townies when you're scum) but who knows.
Feels really genuine. Calix really sucked ass day 1.
On October 05 2016 21:28 Palmar wrote: I also think Grack might be mafia, he has no agenda that I can tell, he just sort of exists. First to expressively suspect Grack - original read.
That's what I got from the first two pages. I am having a rough time wording my thoughts regarding his posts. I just don't think they really come from mafia.
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On October 09 2016 03:25 Calix wrote: If I was so obviously bad then why would someone saying that mean anything?
Hmm, dunno.
The way you phrased it suggests that you are in denial of being bad day 1. I will try to break it down for you.
On day 1, you tunneled jat, bats, and me. Your goal, in those tunnels, was not to find out our alignment. Your goal was to be right rather than to understand where we were coming from and listen to our points of view.
When I argued with you, I did not feel like I was being listened to. You would only pick up the things I said that made you look right as I opposed to listening to what I would say and trying to understand them. I think that Bats and Jat felt the same way as I did.
Bats' comments about how you:+ Show Spoiler + On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote: I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out. On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote: I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out. I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me. Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz. your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice. On October 05 2016 04:31 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 04:17 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote: I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out. I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me. Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz. your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice. If that's the case, why haven't you tried harder to push the few points that you do have? You just dropped some fantastical theories including gems such as NU and myself hard-core distancing ourselves. You show zero conviction in what you say which strikes me as un-town-like. On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote: Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.
I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.
Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.
I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were. The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you Explain how being defensive is a scum tell. I explicitly stated that I was inquiring about the quotes you were using as I was aware that you were referring to HF. You couldn't have missed that as I made that comment right after NU pointed this out. Listen, unless someone else is getting anything useful out of this dumb shit fight I'm just going to ignore you because I feel like I'm wasting my time. I didn't say you did anything scummy I don't think you're Mafia, I said your similarly dumb argument with NU is NAI. That your exchange with NU seemed null vs town to me, I don't think it is outrageous for me to think this as any alignment. Your case on me is fine, I'll take harder stances on stuff if stuff comes up, if not I can live with you being right about me for now. On October 05 2016 21:04 batsnacks wrote: i think a large majority agree that Calix vs <X> has been a pretty consistent, useless shit show. I don't think I've seen anyone move forward in any conversation with this person without moving two steps backward into unnecessary defensiveness or unpleasantness
On October 06 2016 04:14 batsnacks wrote: No one wants that dumb newb who can't stop spewing their useless newb opinions everywhere and stepping on everyone's toes (cough Calix ) lol Some of jat's comments on you (bigger filter, not wasting my time Control-f'ing calix through 12 pages): + Show Spoiler +On October 07 2016 19:02 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 19:00 Calix wrote: JAT's posts are extremely triggering with how scummy they are right now. Pls tag. If you want to convince anyone you should probably at some point start explaining what exactly about my posts is scummy. Because all you did all game was say they are and the only justification you ever really gave died with batsnacks. It is not very pleasant to put up with this shit. On October 07 2016 19:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 19:03 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 19:00 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:59 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:50 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 18:38 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 18:31 Palmar wrote:On October 07 2016 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote: anyone who tries to give reasons to lynch palmar is clearly not reading the thread because there is nothing new that can be added to the stuff already said about palmar.
This guy is my hero If you flip town we should probably lynch him for tmi. Eww gross post. On October 07 2016 18:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 07 2016 17:42 Calix wrote:On October 07 2016 17:08 justanothertownie wrote: I disagree that the calix/nu thing was obviously TvT btw. calix had a comparatively passive role in it. Which I can't fault her for but I don't think the whole thing makes her town at all. This is Grade A bullshit. You're telling me that actively posing a question and accusing someone based on that and tunneling is 'comparatively passive'? If that's passive then your posts are worthy of the Pulitzer prize. "Comparatively" as in "compared to nu". Yes, you did that stuff and I never said the whole thing makes you mafia. I just feel the general procedure of the argument was nu berating you (never really understood why he felt the need to do it since apparently you are "obvious town" to him) while you just went along with the shitshow. I just don't think that makes you town. Eww another gross post. Why would me being "passive compared to NU" mean anything? You're not actually accusing me of being passive in general, so your comment is meaningless. You're not accusing me of being mafia. You just FELT the need to make a comment saying that I'm less townie than NU...but you don't think it makes me scum so again, this comment is meaningless. What the fuck was the point? All you said was "Calix is less townie than NU" but you don't think I'm mafia either so it looks like you just posted some bullshit for the sake of posting it. The point was very simple. People (oats I think) called your shitfight obviously TvT. I disagree with that - this should not be a reason to townread you. Okay so you were just discrediting a town-read that Oats had even though you don't scum-read me either. Good to know. I did not say that either. You are somewhere between low end of null and scum. Haven't made up my mind yet. Duh, obviously you're not going to directly say that. You saw someone give out a town-read. Your first response was to attack the town-read even though you claim you don't scum-read me either. Your reasoning is that I'm "less townie than NU" (lol) This reads like scum rationale over a townie mindset. Are you intentionally misrepresenting me or just bad at reading? I saw someone throw out a reason to townread you which I think is faulty. I mentioned that. The end. Never said that I scumread you in this context or any of the other stuff you are saying right now. My only message was that the shitfight should be treated as NAI regarding you. On October 08 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, I took a step back from this game. This isn't fun to play at all - I really wanted to care less about this game than I usually have been doing but so far it just doesn't work.
Nobody really likes having to deal with Tunnelix. Thankfully, you seem to be more open recently and want to actually understand.
I hope you can grasp what I am saying because *blushes* playing with Calix (as opposed to Tunnelix) is very much enjoyable. c:
I can kind of see where you're coming from but I'm not inclined to agree. But given that the two main candidates are fine by me, it doesn't mean too much.
I am kind of leaning on voting Superbia right now... Jat's case was objectively better than koshi's.
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The batsnacks posts I quoted are absolutely hilarious xD
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On October 09 2016 04:07 Calix wrote: NU, that was a waste of a wall-post because I wasn't saying that to begin with.
But while we're on this topic, tone it down next time. Feel free to call me bad or a retard, just don't do it every other post. It loses the impact.
Is there anything else that we should discuss? Going out in ten, might be back before deadline though as the event I'm attending is dreadfully boring. I'm only going for the freebies.
*Sigh* I know it was not what you were saying. I just tried to make you comprehend that the way you are playing right now is the way I think you should be playing at all times. I sincerely hope you consider what I have said.
You're so cheap
I cannot think of anything game-related to discuss at the moment, sorry. :/
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On October 09 2016 04:14 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 03:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 02:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 05 2016 21:09 Palmar wrote: Superbia is also too sure I'm town. Not even marv knows I'm town yet, so there's that. This post puzzles me. This post leads me to believe that if one of Plam/Super is town, Plamar is the one. Super's early tr of Plam would be a TMI. I think I prefer voting Super actually. You're terrible man Don't see you finding mafia, #1.
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On October 09 2016 04:18 Grackaroni wrote: Superbia hasn't made a single insightful comment on anybody this game.
Don't think he has in the Newbie game or in HM3 either.
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On October 09 2016 03:39 Superbia wrote: Well I'm town and I'm not going to defend myself so have fun.
See who joins my wagon then someone who's supposed to be 'good town' tomorrow.
What a shitter regardless of what he flips.
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On October 09 2016 04:15 Calix wrote: I am a total cheap-skate. I don't deny this.
Also my flatmates keep thinking they can sing when they can't. It's a disturbing experience so I'll take a chance to get away from it.
Wowzers, ya told me you were not going to have any flatmate when I asked.
On October 09 2016 04:42 Grackaroni wrote: I trust JAT now and he seems to have a strong meta read. The best I can say is that I think the mafia are in X group of people, most of them being the really useless people.
Where do you fit in?
If you had to put a name on the mafia, who would they be? o.o
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On October 09 2016 05:51 Grackaroni wrote: I don't think there's enough votes to lynch a Damdred/Scott right now.
I am back.
I am willing to switch to Damdred and Palmar only. Palmar survived too long already.
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Does scott always Ninja vote like this?
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On October 09 2016 05:54 Calix wrote: Can we just lynch Superbia? Nobody has given a reason to town read him. Stop.
Shenannies look fun regardless if we let a mafia slip by for a town.
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On October 09 2016 05:56 Grackaroni wrote: Can we kill Marv?
Cannot comply at the moment.
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On October 09 2016 05:56 Calix wrote: We're not doing a CFD in 3 minutes.
The less time we have for a CFD, the better it is.
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On October 09 2016 05:58 Grackaroni wrote: Let's kill Damdred lol
Are we really? I think only you and I agree on this.
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On October 09 2016 05:58 Calix wrote: Deciding a lynch? TIME TO TROLL.
0/10
Must be why they call you "robot with attitude". Way to be a killjoy.
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I have decided that I was going to sheep the funny one day one. I have not yet concretised my sayings but would like to.
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On October 09 2016 06:05 justanothertownie wrote: wow
absolute trash tier performance
A shitter to the grave.
Now we must find a scapegoat. Any propositions?
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On October 09 2016 06:11 Calix wrote: Yes. What do you make of Grack's behaviour at EOD? Or Scott's ninja vote?
Didn't mind Grack's behaviour.
Means scott was reading and following th thread all along and not contributing shit -> means I want him hung with Damdred.
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I am afraid that after the predictable event of tonight the game's activity will take a nosedive like Politico post-D1.
Currently reading marv's filter.
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On October 09 2016 06:29 Calix wrote: I really don't get how you haven't town-read Marv for his tone yet tbh. Even I picked up on that and usually you're the person who cares for that shit more than I do.
He sounds DB-ish. The DB from BFN.
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Read 4 pages so far. I have really little substance to think he is mafia, but I need to reach this conclusion for my PoE to be good. I'll dig deeper.
Sounding like DB = being neutral. He has been kind of a mediator in you vs. bats and you vs. HF from what I am seeing. You have to read his filter yourself to understand I think. Maybe it's just natural for him to speak this way, idk.
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On October 09 2016 06:42 Calix wrote: Guess I'll have to put in some legwork tomorrow. Likely that I get shanked based on activity alone which is lame but meh, I actually lived past Night 1 for once.
Goodnight. Yes, ok. I do see marv's town tone in 4-7 of his filter.
For some other undisclosed reasons I town-read him.
Grrr.
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On October 09 2016 06:53 Grackaroni wrote: By the way Palmar, Marv is going to come back and say that you failed to defend your town read for the second lynch in a row. I suggest you start preparing your response ahead of time.
He called Super's lynch "not the worst thing". He was absolutely fine with it.
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In other news, Calix is mafia.
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On October 09 2016 11:36 Grackaroni wrote: No Oatsmaster tonight? Isn't this around the time we usually get the NU/Oats chat? I am disappoint.
~20 minutes. Rest assured, I have my hopes up.
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On October 09 2016 11:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 11:36 Grackaroni wrote: No Oatsmaster tonight? Isn't this around the time we usually get the NU/Oats chat? I am disappoint. ~20 minutes. Rest assured, I have my hopes up.
Mr. Oatsy went AWOL.
That's my cue to nod off to dreamland.
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On October 09 2016 19:20 Calix wrote: Palmar and Scott FTW.
Do you have anything else about your JAT read? I'm not so convinced there. Palmar is town, Jat is scum. Remember the scum diversions you were talking about? Yeah, that's JAT.
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On October 09 2016 20:02 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 20:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 19:20 Calix wrote: Palmar and Scott FTW.
Do you have anything else about your JAT read? I'm not so convinced there. Palmar is town, Jat is scum. Remember the scum diversions you were talking about? Yeah, that's JAT. Explain. Unless Palmar is Godfather, he is town.
And my case for you will come later in the day, you need not worry.
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On October 09 2016 08:35 NeverUnlucky wrote: In other news, Calix is mafia.
Same for this.
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On October 09 2016 16:26 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 08 2016 21:29 Calix wrote: On Day 1, I town-read him.
I didn't have one for most of Day 2 since he didn't do anything.
Now I'm skeptical because of that horrendous vote. Would you kindly share your opinion on Oats? Personally, my town-read of him is fading out. He asks for others' opinions more than he gives his. He mischaracterizes stuff sometimes. Connects with 1 - no read progression/I don't know why he is voting X. Was pretty defensive over his vote D1 when no accusations against him were made. Much of an overreaction. (NAI) His fake-voting puzzles me. Really. Meh, you just don't think I'm town cause I haven't posted much recently, don't lie. Damn, you got me.
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On October 09 2016 20:36 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 19:20 Calix wrote: Palmar and Scott FTW.
Do you have anything else about your JAT read? I'm not so convinced there. not much more than anyone else has said so far but its a really sick read though your alibi for being a no show yesterday? >: (
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Nobody, not even Calix, wants to hear my case on her. Me sad.
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On October 09 2016 21:13 Calix wrote: It sucks that half the game are not really playing. Feels like I have just been talking to the same five people, lol.
5?
I counted 4, and one of them is dead.
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Or do, because you are scum together.
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On October 09 2016 21:19 justanothertownie wrote: Is it time to put the nu on the /ignore list again? I think it is time.
Anti-town behavior? Check.
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On October 09 2016 21:20 Calix wrote: I think NU's hit his head again.
That, or he reread his amazing late-game play in HM and decided to replicate it xD
Nananana, you have no idea what I'm doing. I am calculating my shit now. Just tell me when you'll be interested to hear my case.
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On October 09 2016 21:14 justanothertownie wrote: In situations like this there are rarely many scummers between the five. Just sayin.
JAT giving himself town credit. Reminds you of something, Calix?
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On October 09 2016 21:24 Calix wrote: Knock yourself out. I'm always up for reading works of fiction about a world where I'm mafia.
What? You think I'm not being serious?
Why would I not be? To troll? To protect you from being nked? To piss you off? Of course not. I'm serious.
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On October 09 2016 21:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 21:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 21:14 justanothertownie wrote: In situations like this there are rarely many scummers between the five. Just sayin. JAT giving himself town credit. Reminds you of something, Calix? Naw.
Now?
On September 26 2016 07:21 Calix wrote: In fact, scum dying Day 1 is extremely informative. It basically tells us that the mafia have to be a bunch of passive fucktards, 100% no quibbling.
"But Calix, what if there was some WIFOM9000 bussing plan?" - No. Allow me to explain the logic:
- Scum rarely die on Day 1.
- Scum do not want to bus their partners on Day 1 because they lose numbers and give town a shitton of information and the only advantage they get is "muh town cred" which means jack shit because they still have to survive for an extra day and town cred doesn't save you in LYLO.
- Scum with strong thread presence do not lose their partners on Day 1 because they can divert the lynch onto a townie.
- If a scum player dies on Day 1, then the scum cannot have a strong thread presence because otherwise the lynch would have not hit scum.
- Therefore the scum must be among the passive lurkers.
Like this is fucking airtight logic.
Also, you did a very similar post this game.
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On October 09 2016 21:31 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 21:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 21:27 Calix wrote:On October 09 2016 21:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 21:14 justanothertownie wrote: In situations like this there are rarely many scummers between the five. Just sayin. JAT giving himself town credit. Reminds you of something, Calix? Naw. Now? On September 26 2016 07:21 Calix wrote: In fact, scum dying Day 1 is extremely informative. It basically tells us that the mafia have to be a bunch of passive fucktards, 100% no quibbling.
"But Calix, what if there was some WIFOM9000 bussing plan?" - No. Allow me to explain the logic:
- Scum rarely die on Day 1.
- Scum do not want to bus their partners on Day 1 because they lose numbers and give town a shitton of information and the only advantage they get is "muh town cred" which means jack shit because they still have to survive for an extra day and town cred doesn't save you in LYLO.
- Scum with strong thread presence do not lose their partners on Day 1 because they can divert the lynch onto a townie.
- If a scum player dies on Day 1, then the scum cannot have a strong thread presence because otherwise the lynch would have not hit scum.
- Therefore the scum must be among the passive lurkers.
Like this is fucking airtight logic. Also, you did a very similar post this game. I'll have you know that the post you quoted was pure genius on my part But yes, I get what point you're making. And did I? Must have missed that.
No, Calix. It was a bad post. If you've read the /obs chat you'd know that this is what made me doubt you and what made scumformation tinfoil you. You are basically trying to town-clear yourself, like JAT did. It's a big no-no.
Yeah, you did. Not as much effort and confetti, but a similar comment nonetheless.
Let's try to start on a common grounds. Do you agree with me that you are scum this game?
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On October 09 2016 21:33 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 21:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 21:27 Calix wrote:On October 09 2016 21:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 21:14 justanothertownie wrote: In situations like this there are rarely many scummers between the five. Just sayin. JAT giving himself town credit. Reminds you of something, Calix? Naw. Now? On September 26 2016 07:21 Calix wrote: In fact, scum dying Day 1 is extremely informative. It basically tells us that the mafia have to be a bunch of passive fucktards, 100% no quibbling.
"But Calix, what if there was some WIFOM9000 bussing plan?" - No. Allow me to explain the logic:
- Scum rarely die on Day 1.
- Scum do not want to bus their partners on Day 1 because they lose numbers and give town a shitton of information and the only advantage they get is "muh town cred" which means jack shit because they still have to survive for an extra day and town cred doesn't save you in LYLO.
- Scum with strong thread presence do not lose their partners on Day 1 because they can divert the lynch onto a townie.
- If a scum player dies on Day 1, then the scum cannot have a strong thread presence because otherwise the lynch would have not hit scum.
- Therefore the scum must be among the passive lurkers.
Like this is fucking airtight logic. Also, you did a very similar post this game. I guess someone else making a completely different post in a different game as mafia proves that I am mafia.
Good guess.
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Speaking of which I'll read the scum chat from that game.
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On October 09 2016 21:37 Calix wrote: I like that instead of discussing events pertaining to this game, NU is going to bring up cringe-worthy quotes from my last game.
Ten pence that he's using some stupid 'meta' reason to scum-read me.
You're slow, aren't you?
Read 1795 from this game. Go, do it. This is exactly what you said in BFN as scum.
"You're slipping so hard you'll be outdoing Paladin in the Hall of Fame. Anyone who scum-reads you becomes suspect and whoever agrees with you is town? lmao
You don't remember the reasoning that you supposedly agree with. Right."
Hedging and exaggerating your read to make the person you are tunneling scum.
This is only the beginning.
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On October 09 2016 21:36 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 21:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 21:31 Calix wrote:On October 09 2016 21:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 21:27 Calix wrote:On October 09 2016 21:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 21:14 justanothertownie wrote: In situations like this there are rarely many scummers between the five. Just sayin. JAT giving himself town credit. Reminds you of something, Calix? Naw. Now? On September 26 2016 07:21 Calix wrote: In fact, scum dying Day 1 is extremely informative. It basically tells us that the mafia have to be a bunch of passive fucktards, 100% no quibbling.
"But Calix, what if there was some WIFOM9000 bussing plan?" - No. Allow me to explain the logic:
- Scum rarely die on Day 1.
- Scum do not want to bus their partners on Day 1 because they lose numbers and give town a shitton of information and the only advantage they get is "muh town cred" which means jack shit because they still have to survive for an extra day and town cred doesn't save you in LYLO.
- Scum with strong thread presence do not lose their partners on Day 1 because they can divert the lynch onto a townie.
- If a scum player dies on Day 1, then the scum cannot have a strong thread presence because otherwise the lynch would have not hit scum.
- Therefore the scum must be among the passive lurkers.
Like this is fucking airtight logic. Also, you did a very similar post this game. I'll have you know that the post you quoted was pure genius on my part But yes, I get what point you're making. And did I? Must have missed that. No, Calix. It was a bad post. If you've read the /obs chat you'd know that this is what made me doubt you and what made scumformation tinfoil you. You are basically trying to town-clear yourself, like JAT did. It's a big no-no. Yeah, you did. Not as much effort and confetti, but a similar comment nonetheless. Let's try to start on a common grounds. Do you agree with me that you are scum this game? Stopped taking you with even an atom of seriousness with that last question. "Woah there, [Mrs.] Edge, tone it down a little."
???
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On October 09 2016 21:50 Calix wrote: 1795 was posted by you? lmao
This is great. You're actually taking the time to go through my scum games and cherry-pick quotes.
Hilarious.
holy shit you're bad and you can't grasp codes
bad bad bad bad bad bad bad
why did i even think you would understand?
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Can't grasp hints* I should say.
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On October 09 2016 21:56 Calix wrote: If literally anyone else can pop online right now so I don't have my IQ lowered by 30 points, that'll be lovely.
yoyoyo, it was not a bad gambit. I just failed the execution a bit by not being serious enough, and you cannot take hints. If we managed to pull it off, it would have been amazing.
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>22 pages of filter.
>Subtle.
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Everyone knows what I tried to do by now.
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I've done neither of A B or C. Why are you only pushing Oats?
I think it might be the time we discuss our scum-reads before the expectable happens.
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JAT Damdred Scott
Grack Plamar Oats
Those are the not lock town for me in order of scumminess.
Calix, you town-read JAT since he pulled a Plamar and started doing shit but scum-read Palmar? Palmar's response was arbitrarily better than JAT.
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On October 09 2016 22:34 justanothertownie wrote: If you seriously think Palmars response was better than mine than I question your sanity.
You are scum, so you can be forgiven.
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On October 09 2016 22:35 Calix wrote: Yes, doing shit is generally a good thing.
'arbitrarily better' ???
I thought Palmar's responses were okay until Koshi pointed out the flaws in them. You also agreed with this assessment.
I agreed with koshi's points on Palmar just like I agreed with jat's points on Super. Despite agreeing with them, I did not scum-read either.
I pretty much voted Superbia because I agreed with jat's case even though I did not scum-read Super. I regret that.
Arbitrarily better because jat's got no town tone and never proposed that his lynch was a ML nor that he was town.
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On October 09 2016 22:41 Calix wrote: NU, are you just scum-reading JAT for that comment about how "it's rare that the scummers are among the active, interested players"?
Because if so, I don't even know what to say to you.
No. It's a point among others.
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Calix, please post your list of non-lock town in order of scumminess.
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On October 09 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:39 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:37 Calix wrote: My dude, if you think JAT was making up shit with his Superbia case then surely you can go to the case and point out where JAT was bullshitting, right? Super was super anti town lol, there is nothing inherently wrong with JAT's case. Then why on earth am I mafia for pushing his lynch? can everyone please reread this post. Listen to me about jat. It's highly unlikely that without significant scum intervention, we managed to avoid lynching damdred and Scott by now, and jat was the main mover of the last lynch. Scott came in with the ninja vote and Palmar really didnt give a shit about moving the vote onto his target.
And tell me how any of your questions are linked to what I said. I already asked you why scum would even need to intervene when you don't even think damdred is mafia. And the assumption that only mafia would do that is even more stupid. Rephrase this lol, i dont not understand. lololol
Never lynch this guy.
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On October 09 2016 22:47 Calix wrote: So...he didn't claim he was town, doesn't have 'town tone' and made a random comment about the active players.
Good stuff for sure. Defense purely based on self-meta with nothing game-related.
Anti-town behavior.
Is Titus' smurf.
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On October 09 2016 22:48 Calix wrote: Also wait, you didn't scum-read Superbia but you agreed with the case?
How does that make any sense? How do you agree with the points but not think they make Superbia scum but vote for Superbia anyway?
??? Not quite it.
I agreed with the points, so I was fooled into thinking that he was scum for those points. Before that, I had Superbia in my lock-town circle and was joking around with him.
I'm sure the same thing happened to you.
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On October 09 2016 22:50 Calix wrote: And why do you keep voting for people that you 'don't scum-read'? I've covered this.
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On October 09 2016 22:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 22:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 22:47 Calix wrote: So...he didn't claim he was town, doesn't have 'town tone' and made a random comment about the active players.
Good stuff for sure. Defense purely based on self-meta with nothing game-related. Anti-town behavior. Is Titus' smurf. Once anyone brings up a game related reason for me to be mafia I will gladly defend myself against that.
Those small pointers were all game-related.
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On October 09 2016 22:46 NeverUnlucky wrote: Calix, please post your list of non-lock town in order of scumminess.
And defend your town-read of jat if you would be so kind.
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On October 09 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:39 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:37 Calix wrote: My dude, if you think JAT was making up shit with his Superbia case then surely you can go to the case and point out where JAT was bullshitting, right? Super was super anti town lol, there is nothing inherently wrong with JAT's case. Then why on earth am I mafia for pushing his lynch? can everyone please reread this post. Listen to me about jat. It's highly unlikely that without significant scum intervention, we managed to avoid lynching damdred and Scott by now, and jat was the main mover of the last lynch. Scott came in with the ninja vote and Palmar really didnt give a shit about moving the vote onto his target.
And tell me how any of your questions are linked to what I said. I already asked you why scum would even need to intervene when you don't even think damdred is mafia. And the assumption that only mafia would do that is even more stupid. Rephrase this lol, i dont not understand. Seriously? Why would I as mafia go out of my way to not lynch damdred if he is town? Why would I need to INTERVENE like that? Why would I as town only lynch between the 2 hardcore lurkers? I dont know if you realised, but you were very close to being lynched yesterday. I think damdred is mafia. Dunno what your last quiestion is. I really wasn't close to being lynched at all. And I just assumed that you do not scumread damdred since in the post before that you declared the mafia team to be me, palmar and scott. My last question is very simple. Why would I only push out side of damdred and scott as mafia? Why would I not do that as town?
Look, Calix. His questions are ones that need to be answered with "WIFOM". He has no will to defend himself out of WIFOM, because WIFOM and only WIFOM make his play make sense as town.
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On October 09 2016 22:46 NeverUnlucky wrote: Calix, please post your list of non-lock town in order of scumminess.
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On October 09 2016 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:02 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 23:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:On October 09 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 09 2016 22:39 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] Then why on earth am I mafia for pushing his lynch? can everyone please reread this post. Listen to me about jat. It's highly unlikely that without significant scum intervention, we managed to avoid lynching damdred and Scott by now, and jat was the main mover of the last lynch. Scott came in with the ninja vote and Palmar really didnt give a shit about moving the vote onto his target.
And tell me how any of your questions are linked to what I said. I already asked you why scum would even need to intervene when you don't even think damdred is mafia. And the assumption that only mafia would do that is even more stupid. Rephrase this lol, i dont not understand. Seriously? Why would I as mafia go out of my way to not lynch damdred if he is town? Why would I need to INTERVENE like that? Why would I as town only lynch between the 2 hardcore lurkers? I dont know if you realised, but you were very close to being lynched yesterday. I think damdred is mafia. Dunno what your last quiestion is. I really wasn't close to being lynched at all. And I just assumed that you do not scumread damdred since in the post before that you declared the mafia team to be me, palmar and scott. My last question is very simple. Why would I only push out side of damdred and scott as mafia? Why would I not do that as town? Look, Calix. His questions are ones that need to be answered with "WIFOM". He has no will to defend himself out of WIFOM, because WIFOM and only WIFOM make his play make sense as town. This is less about me defending myself and more about oats being mafia for just making shit up on the fly. Literally not interested in continuing this converstation. I want to lynch scott tmr k guys. You misspelled Damdred.
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Hard to clarify matters when 60+% of the game is MIA.
I'm in the process of reading Jat's filter, and so far I like his Day One posts. Especially his early case on Grack: On October 05 2016 17:35 justanothertownie wrote:Wow, I had to read an insane amount of bullshit just now. I already told you guys I won't be around much today before the game started and this still holds true (only activity possible today will be what I can sneak in during work). So I will adress the horrendous stuff which has been posted about me and give you my lynchpool before I leave. Won't have time for much more. Let's start: Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 09:34 Grackaroni wrote:On October 05 2016 09:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Grack do you have any reads or you just decide to post when you feel like it uselessly? No I'm actually working on it right now, but it's a slow process. My first instinct was to look at JAT and I'm still a bit undecided. There's nothing in his filter for me to really fault but he seems very agreeable. How do you go from the bolded, which is entirely accurate, to me being his prefered lynch? When being agreeable is basically my bog-standard townmeta? I am literally known for this. Still mafia superbia made the same case on me in my last towngame. It is highly irritating. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 14:06 Grackaroni wrote: JAT (Because of general agreeability. Also he weakens his reads whenever questioned.)
Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 14:07 Grackaroni wrote: I don't really want to go for the Holyflare hat trick on day 1, so I propose JAT. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 16:36 Grackaroni wrote: I do agree though that JAT spends a lot of time arguing people are acting normally.
Palmar is normal
Batsnacks is normal
Then whenever somebody argues otherwise he agrees with them. Literally nothing about my play changed between those posts. As if reevaluating my read on batsnacks was the slightest bit scummy. I had an impression of his game which didn't really hold up when I rechecked his filter. And as far as I know this was the only time this game where I "weakened my read". Never did I retract what I said about Palmar. I wasn't questioned either. Grack is misrepresenting what happened here. Overall this is a bullshit accusation which does not require any towny mindset to come up with. Combined with gracks lackluster play it can easily come from mafia. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 08:18 batsnacks wrote: jat was on the ground floor with NU vs Calix, said later that he has "0 idea why anyone [Superbia] would find that fight interesting." He's been there a few times egging Calix on when what Calix was doing at the time was at best anti town.
I know I'm speaking as someone who himself is guilty of not taking stances but jat is also there sort of directing traffic a lot of the time and similarly not taking stances. What does "on the ground floor" even mean? I said that calix approach was hard to understand since nu apparently is such an easy read for her. That's literally the only somewhat interesting thing about that fight and since calix was obviously really invested and out herself out there I did not think it made her mafia. The rest of your accusation is just what you said earlier already and it is probably the silliest accusation I have ever heard. If you only lynch people who do this kind of "anti town" stuff you will never win a single game as town. In fact it is so silly that I find it hard to imagine mafia batsnacks trying to attack me with it. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 09:24 Oatsmaster wrote: I quite like what bats has been doing recently, especially since he returned pretty quickly after his peace out post.
Super still whining and not being proactive.
Koshi and stutters no-show.
Koshi if you really don't have the time, just find one read and push it. Don't do this fluffy shit.
Jat a lot of activity but not a lot of content, leaning scum on him.
This guy on the other hand is just making a thowaway comment on me without following up un it. He is putting me on the backburner because "I did not offend him" (what kind of bs reason is that?) - possibly because he doesn't really think I will actually get lynched. Might come from mafia.
And this lil' joke:
On October 05 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote: I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum. You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept. Might be town.
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On October 09 2016 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:15 Calix wrote: This has got to be one of the most unproductive games I've been in.
We've bickered for pages in a giant circle-jerk but not much has actually changed and we're not getting closer to clarifying matters. I call it the neverunlucky effect. Yes, it is mostly my fault. No sarcasm.
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Palmar/Oats makes sense I guess.
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I invite everyone to take look at Jat v. Grack which is contained between 938 and 991 in Jat's filter.
Jat makes some good points on Grack who seems to be back-tracking with every step Jat takes in his direction.
Jat had a solid Day 1 performance from what I am seeing. Don't want to lynch him anymore.
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Add to that the fact that Grack did not make a case on HF this game and the fact that he semi-buddied marv, we have a pretty good mafia contender in Grack.
He was always willing to lynch Palmar though. I don't think Palmar/Grack is a thing with their interactions.
Grack/Oats makes sense because they have been distantly town-reading each other.
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On October 06 2016 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 21:20 Superbia wrote:Stutters is a pretty shit shot. If you want to policy shoot, shoot Palmar (for info). If you want to hit mafia probably shoot Damdred. + Show Spoiler +Like there even is a vigi Palmar is a pretty shit shot. You always lynch palmar and similar people who are good at defending themselves as town. Stutters is by far the best shot because he will never be readable and the day we finally get rid of him will be a complete waste with 0 information gained. What did you think of Palmar's defense?
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On October 09 2016 06:04 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 2: Final Vote Count - Palmar (2) - marvellosity, Koshi,
- Damdred (1) - Grackaroni
- justanothertownie (2) - Palmar, Oatsmaster
- marvellosity (1) - Superbia
- Superbia (4) - justanothertownie, Calix, NeverUnlucky, scott31337
Not voting (1) - Damdred
Grack CFD.
Palmar and Oats on Jat for sick read.
Scott ninja'd.
Damdred AWOL.
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On October 06 2016 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 1: Final Vote Count - batsnacks (5) - marvellosity, Damdred, Calix, Oatsmaster, NeverUnlucky
- Palmar (4) - Grackaroni, Holyflare, Koshi, Superbia
- Damdred (1) - batsnacks
- Superbia (1) - justanothertownie
- Holyflare (1) - Palmar
Not voting (1) - Stutters695
Scott has no vote.
Palmar tried starting a new train.
Grack was voting Palmar.
Oats and Damdred were involved in the ML for reasons I can't remember.
On October 09 2016 06:04 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 2: Final Vote Count - Palmar (2) - marvellosity, Koshi,
- Damdred (1) - Grackaroni
- justanothertownie (2) - Palmar, Oatsmaster
- marvellosity (1) - Superbia
- Superbia (4) - justanothertownie, Calix, NeverUnlucky, scott31337
Not voting (1) - Damdred
Grack CFD.
Palmar and Oats on Jat for sick read.
Scott ninja'd.
Damdred AWOL.
Potential scum were minimally involved in any ML.
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On October 09 2016 23:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 21:20 Superbia wrote:Stutters is a pretty shit shot. If you want to policy shoot, shoot Palmar (for info). If you want to hit mafia probably shoot Damdred. + Show Spoiler +Like there even is a vigi Palmar is a pretty shit shot. You always lynch palmar and similar people who are good at defending themselves as town. Stutters is by far the best shot because he will never be readable and the day we finally get rid of him will be a complete waste with 0 information gained. What did you think of Palmar's defense? If you are asking why I am suggesting to not shoot him there - Palmar is really really good at defending himself against being mislynched. So unless I am 100 % sure that he is mafia it is always better to try and lynch him because if he is actually defending himself you should be able to see his alignment. He will not go down like superbia a scrub as town. While trying to lynch stutters would have lead to no information obtained ever regardless of his alignment. No, I understood your suggestion. I am asking for your thoughts on his D2 defense.
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On October 09 2016 23:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:42 Koshi wrote:On October 09 2016 22:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 22:35 Calix wrote: Yes, doing shit is generally a good thing.
'arbitrarily better' ???
I thought Palmar's responses were okay until Koshi pointed out the flaws in them. You also agreed with this assessment. I agreed with koshi's points on Palmar just like I agreed with jat's points on Super. Despite agreeing with them, I did not scum-read either. I pretty much voted Superbia because I agreed with jat's case even though I did not scum-read Super. I regret that. Arbitrarily better because jat's got no town tone and never proposed that his lynch was a ML nor that he was town. No words... Really just look at those 3 paragraphs. Mind = blown In a bad way Sadface.
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I am back. I have decided to take the game more seriously and properly sit down, take my time to think, write down my thoughts, and stop acting like a troll/retard.
I've just read through Koshi's whole filter in the perspective that he was scum. The only incriminating thing I found was that he at some point agreed with lynching Super and bats who were in his "never lynch" list and then blamed town for it both times. Other than that, I think he is clear.
Koshi, day 1 you theorized that JAT/Palmar was a possible scum-team. Do you still think that way?
On October 06 2016 02:58 Koshi wrote: Ok. So let's not lynch into these names. Calix, Koshi, Oats, NU, Superbia, Grack, Damdred, Marv, batsnacks
Who is left? Palmar justanothertownie Holyflare Stutters695
Pretty good stuff.
On October 06 2016 03:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 03:22 Calix wrote: I think lynching among JAT/ HF/ batsnacks is way more likely to hit multiple scum. Better return.
You don't agree? I think batsnacks is town and Palmar mafia. Palmar/JAT is also very possible.
On October 10 2016 03:57 Koshi wrote: Mafia team is within Oats/Palmar/Scott/Damdred. I would say Grack is mafia but probably not. Just pretending to be. Or maybe he is. Who knows? Why isn't Jat here?
In your next post you say that DDD seems to have a clean filter, so you cleared him. Here's what you said about him day 1. (minor point)
On October 07 2016 16:59 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 13:31 Grackaroni wrote: Writing a case for Damdred is harder than I thought.
There's the point that Bats made of Damdred primarily making a reads dump and very little questioning, which seems uncharacteristic.
I think a case could also be made that he's only willing to scum read weaker players that won't give him too much trouble. He mentioned HF in his initial reads post and backed off that very quickly.
Primarily I'm going to go with, "I have a lot of town reads and the feels are reals." Can you disprove my feels, Damdred? Bats getting so much heat and little support also points towards Damdred mafia. The guy who gets lynched D1 often sits on mafia. I like it.
What makes you town-read him?
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After the NK is revealed, I think it is beneficial for town if Scott/DDD/Palmar/Jat/Oats is the cop to claim. This way we town-clear a foggy slot and scum cannot force a 1v1 in LyLo in the eventuality that we ML.
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I've read Damdred's filter. He's lock scum to me.
On October 05 2016 03:34 Damdred wrote: Stutters Bats
Super
Hf
Is my scum pool currently. I'm somewhat more confident in almost everyone else being town.
3 flipped town, other is a guy who had made 4 posts from which 2 were questions. Scummiest player in the game? Awful scum pool.
On October 05 2016 03:38 Damdred wrote: Like stutters feels more like a policy lynch with how sideline and active he is (or isn't in this case) so if we have to policy lynch we should do him.
Bats I think is on the sideline and is just posting things to exist basically. His one tinfoil isn't enough and I don't really see him sticking his neck,out and he's super agreeable and right in the middle on certain subjects (hf I believe) he also asked several questions that seemed not to,go anywhere.
I'd rather lynch bats atm
Bats was one of the few to scum-read Damdred with me day 1. He has not been agreeable nor in "the middle on certain objects".
What tinfoil?
Bats was not posting things just to exist. That is actually what Damdred has done. Same goes for his point about questions leading nowhere.
That is one bad scum-read.
On October 05 2016 03:41 Damdred wrote: Hf probably going to rage on me to which will be sad and I do just do nit think super and hf will be on the same scum team with how super just name dropped him so easily.
Also super even when using the lurker d1 stool had decent posts when we last played instead here kind of seems like he is wanting to poke marv to rage instead of doing anything interesting.
Kind of think super is scum.
Very hesitant in his read.
Super's interaction with marv (re: "TMI'ing Calix as town") was in no way something that Super made in an attempt to make marv rage.
On October 05 2016 05:25 Damdred wrote: I will say I've missed the marv sassiness in my life.
Grack could be scum to,I guess he's not been to amazing yet, but I have a higher view of his scum game than his town game over all.
Like as scum I generally see him as mire proactive and leading away while. I'm not sure lazy Grack makes me sad (and I think more likely town by my experience so far) Hesitation.
On October 05 2016 05:28 Damdred wrote: Hi marv.
Did you disagree with anything I've thought so far?
Interesting that he chose to say DISAGREE over AGREE. As in he expected marv to disagree. Again, this shows how hestiant he is.
On October 05 2016 07:08 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me. You just do not have good taste then since even calix town reads me. Maybe I'm wrong about NU being town I'm unsure now based on him reading the game opposite how he would idk.
"Even Calix town-reads me" What is this supposed to mean? It's as if he was trying to convince me to TR him because Calix did. Absolutely shit argument.
What does he know about how I would read the game? Hestitant read.
I've seen zero town motivation in his posts. I would like to hear why Koshi and Calix TR the guy.
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Still in the process of reading through everyone's filter, but atm I'm at Palmar + Damdred + ? (Jat/Grack/marv).
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Grack, would you kindly comment on any of the filter-dives I've made and/or on the cop claim?
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On October 10 2016 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote: Still in the process of reading through everyone's filter, but atm I'm at Palmar + Damdred + ? (Jat/Grack/marv). Any reason for why grack and me are scummier than let's say - scott and oats?
I forgot Oats, thank you.
I don't see Scott+DDD in the same team at the moment.
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On October 10 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:On October 10 2016 04:46 Calix wrote: Jesus Christ, I'm going to die in just over an hour and some garbage accusations on Marv and Koshi are what come up?
Grack and Palmar can join Team Go Fuck Yourselves for whining that we're scum-reading them when they have done jack shit the entire game. The only valid point I saw in that was Grack defending Palmar with the "calling Superbia a bad lynch just draws attention to him" argument.
Otherwise no. Waaaaah you haven't done anything. Waaaaaah now you are accusing Marv and Koshi and I dislike that. Make your choice. You're one of the biggest whiners here. You haven't done anything yet you have the audacity to talk shit about the people who have? Why is it that you've only sprung to life after people start accusing you? lol Calix, please focus. You have one hour left in this thread, and I want you to make the most of it.
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On October 10 2016 04:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On October 10 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:On October 10 2016 04:46 Calix wrote: Jesus Christ, I'm going to die in just over an hour and some garbage accusations on Marv and Koshi are what come up?
Grack and Palmar can join Team Go Fuck Yourselves for whining that we're scum-reading them when they have done jack shit the entire game. The only valid point I saw in that was Grack defending Palmar with the "calling Superbia a bad lynch just draws attention to him" argument.
Otherwise no. Waaaaah you haven't done anything. Waaaaaah now you are accusing Marv and Koshi and I dislike that. Make your choice. You're one of the biggest whiners here. You haven't done anything yet you have the audacity to talk shit about the people who have? Why is it that you've only sprung to life after people start accusing you? lol Calix, please focus. You have one hour left in this thread, and I want you to make the most of it.
Thoughts on my 3 latest contributions?
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On October 10 2016 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 04:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:On October 10 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote: Still in the process of reading through everyone's filter, but atm I'm at Palmar + Damdred + ? (Jat/Grack/marv). Any reason for why grack and me are scummier than let's say - scott and oats? I forgot Oats, thank you. I don't see Scott+DDD in the same team at the moment. Because of the shit vote I guess. Don't necessarily agree that that makes it impossible but at least I see your point. I would find it outlandish that Damdred who was willing to PL Stutts/Scott whom he had as #1 scum-read out of 4 posts and Scott who voted Damdred for being sick (lol) were in the same team.
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On October 10 2016 05:00 Calix wrote: NU, your Damdred case wasn't terrible although it's not compelling enough for me to consider him 'lock scum'.
There's also the issue of Scott to content with. Sadly dwelling on this is just speculation because neither of them are actually playing.
Yeah, but why do you and Koshi TR him?
Agreed. We pretty much have to keep our last ML to make sure we don't flip the coin on the wrong side when dealing with scott/ddd.
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On October 10 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote: Also NU was accusing me of buddying Marv for your dick joke earlier. This is why we don't make jokes JAT!
I'm really glad I'm not Calix because having an argument with NU every 15 pages must be pretty miserable. Who's worse to argue with now that you've tasted Calix? + Show Spoiler [To get things straight] +The dick measuring contest joke was mine -_-
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On October 10 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 05:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:On October 10 2016 04:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:On October 10 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote: Still in the process of reading through everyone's filter, but atm I'm at Palmar + Damdred + ? (Jat/Grack/marv). Any reason for why grack and me are scummier than let's say - scott and oats? I forgot Oats, thank you. I don't see Scott+DDD in the same team at the moment. Because of the shit vote I guess. Don't necessarily agree that that makes it impossible but at least I see your point. I would find it outlandish that Damdred who was willing to PL Stutts/Scott whom he had as #1 scum-read out of 4 posts and Scott who voted Damdred for being sick (lol) were in the same team. I don't think it is outlandish. Damdred is a known hardbusser. And the vote is so obviously shit that I don't think that is unthinkable either.
Mmk. Forget that point then, it is forseeable.
On October 10 2016 05:07 Calix wrote: I only skimmed the last few pages since I'm only playing for the next fucking hour, but the impression I got from Grack is that his main focus is on defending Palmar/ Oats with pushing scum-reads as a secondary objective.
This may not be entirely accurate. It's just the vibe I got and people should look into it when Day 3 starts. Who do you 100% trust? I'll need someone else to bounce my reads off of.
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On October 10 2016 04:25 NeverUnlucky wrote: After the NK is revealed, I think it is beneficial for town if Scott/DDD/Palmar/Jat/Oats is the cop to claim. This way we town-clear a foggy slot and scum cannot force a 1v1 in LyLo in the eventuality that we ML.
What do you think of this?
Who would you lynch tomorrow?
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Why does Calix think that dying tonight gives her the right to act like a grumpy grandpa? lol
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On October 10 2016 05:43 Calix wrote: Also vaguely annoyed that I lack the skill to sort through Damdred/ Scott/ Grack/ Palmar/ Oats any more than I have.
I'm more disappointed that the game did not turn out the way I expected it to between me being retarded and shitposting, Palmar, Marv and Koshi not having the time to play, Superbia having the time to play but prefering to be a shitter, and two slots being empty. :/
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On October 10 2016 05:49 Calix wrote: Ah well, we just have to make the best of a very shitty situation. Wouldn't expect to catch any breaks this game.
Weird question to ask but I'll ask anyways.
Do you have tips/things to watch out for for me?
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On October 10 2016 05:58 Calix wrote: I'm going to laugh if I end up living and I'm just being melodramatic for no reason, but that might just be me being unreasonably optimistic. The only reason for that to happen is if mafia have a blue read they are confident in (even then they have framer/rber).
Other than that any kill that isn't you is a bad one. You're the most active player in the game, and it's much easier to win the game by killing it than by outplaying others.
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Someone needs to explain this.
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That makes the town on Plamar day 100% town and the CFD on Damdred 100% town.
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On October 10 2016 06:08 Calix wrote: Either a) scum were TPR-hunting or b) Grack's reads were onto something or c) the scum want us to think b.
Assuming c) is sub-optimal strategy so guess I'll be filter-diving later on now that I know he's town.
Or D) he was defending Palmar, so Palmar is town.
b) points to you, marv and jat.
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On October 10 2016 06:10 Calix wrote: He was in the POE pool.
Not a great sign. Do you think that there's deep wolf in marv/koshi/me?
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Or maybe it was because I fake-scum-read Calix? :DDD
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Other possible reasons:
Mafia are boring fucks that don't like jokes
Mafia think Calix sucks
Mafia are conscious that killing Calix and HF is killing the game, but they have honor
Mafia want us to revisit Calix
Mafia thought it was an uninformative kill that is not a shot in the dark like scott/ddd.
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On October 10 2016 06:15 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 06:13 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 06:10 Calix wrote: He was in the POE pool.
Not a great sign. Do you think that there's deep wolf in marv/koshi/me? Looks like a possibility. None of the widely town-read players have been hit yet. HF had his fair share of detractors and Grack was being considered as a scum suspect. Possible that the scum are just trying to hit TPRs but they could just roleblock in that case so I am skeptical.
Why do you assume it's a roleblocker?
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On October 10 2016 06:19 Calix wrote: I don't think the scum team are THAT focused on me, dude.
Was just rambling. The most probable are blue snipe and uninformative kill imo.
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On October 10 2016 06:20 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 06:19 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 06:15 Calix wrote:On October 10 2016 06:13 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 06:10 Calix wrote: He was in the POE pool.
Not a great sign. Do you think that there's deep wolf in marv/koshi/me? Looks like a possibility. None of the widely town-read players have been hit yet. HF had his fair share of detractors and Grack was being considered as a scum suspect. Possible that the scum are just trying to hit TPRs but they could just roleblock in that case so I am skeptical. Why do you assume it's a roleblocker? It's a guaranteed role in the setup, you dipshit. LOL
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On October 10 2016 06:24 Calix wrote: Legit question. Where do we go from here?
I don't really know how to operate given that everyone seems to have whack reads right now.
2 options:
1. we sheep Koshi and lynch plam 2. We tinfoil because of Grack's death and lynch Jat.
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Now we pretend 2. doesn't exist so we force Plam to show up and prove he is town.
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On October 10 2016 06:30 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 06:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 06:24 Calix wrote: Legit question. Where do we go from here?
I don't really know how to operate given that everyone seems to have whack reads right now. 2 options: 1. we sheep Koshi and lynch plam 2. We tinfoil because of Grack's death and lynch Jat. ??? Grack was way more convinced about marv and koshi than me. No?
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On October 10 2016 06:33 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 06:10 NeverUnlucky wrote: That makes the town on Plamar day 100% town and the CFD on Damdred 100% town. Paranoia checking in. How do you know that Palmar's wagon is 100% town when Koshi is still alive?
I read all 9 pages of his filter just 2 hours ago and concluded that he was town. Confirmation bias from your reads tells me he is town also.
Now you are spreading your paranoia on me :3
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This site is laggy af when quoting.
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On October 10 2016 06:39 Koshi wrote: Oh and Oats. Where is Oats? You mean in Grack's reads or in thread activity?
If you're talking thread activity, he usually is online around 4AM and 1-3 PM UK time.
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On October 10 2016 06:55 Palmar wrote: Grack dies for believing.
HF died for believing
I KILL PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHT AS MAFIA.
JESUS FUCK PEOPLE i believed
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On October 10 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote: Hello, I have given my excuses but would rather keep it out of thread because it is nai.
I'm way behind to make any rational thought provoking posts so here's to reading 9x pages and watch all my friends turn against me.
I for one don't like that he specifies that his inactivity is nai. It once again illustrates that he is hesitant because he is sort of defending himself against a complaint that can be made on his play when it has not been made.
This reminds me of a comment scum!Eggy made in his last game: "Im sorry for being afk most of D1 I was busy which is not AI."
guilty
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On October 10 2016 06:55 Palmar wrote: Grack dies for believing.
HF died for believing
I KILL PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHT AS MAFIA.
JESUS FUCK PEOPLE
So... you've been following the game and this is all you've to say?
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On October 10 2016 07:13 Calix wrote: Every time you make a comment referring to Eggy, I gain an extra freckle from the soul I took to recover from said comment.
Other than that, carry on. It was not a bad reference. :/
I do like me some Morgan Freeman freckle memes though.
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Like this guy has 0 town motivation in his posts. Only reason he was town-read was because he had similar thoughts as other people (and those thoughts were bad).
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There’s only one moment I noticed his tone being different, and it was in his interaction with bats. It was more inquisitive than his usual chummy-chummy tone. Overall he feels more distant this game. Was that what you had noticed? Don’t think he was sick at the time and don’t think being sick makes the tone more inquisitive than usual.
I’ve noted this too. It’s a not the best argument as he may be trying a new play style or approaching the game differently (before he got his rolecard). For instance, my play this game is nothing like any of the other games I’ve played before.
You are right that you are a hypocrite though. I can tell you that much c:
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On October 10 2016 07:33 Damdred wrote: Saying that my activity level is indicative of anything is folly at best and idiocy at worst.
For example I,have several scum games that have 15-30 pages who or at the same time I have some scum games with 1-5 pages. And these happen in indiscriminate means as I see fit.
The same can be said of my town game the range in which I post is high sometimes and low others.
Trying to draw conclusions based off activity and any type of excuses (that I'm attempting to keep out of thread) is ludicrous.
As such if you are town you should be happy I am here and will catch up. If you are scum keep being dumb.
I’m not saying that nobody said that your activity was AI, but nobody said that your activity was AI.
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On October 10 2016 07:56 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 07:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote: Hello, I have given my excuses but would rather keep it out of thread because it is nai.
I'm way behind to make any rational thought provoking posts so here's to reading 9x pages and watch all my friends turn against me. I for one don't like that he specifies that his inactivity is nai. It once again illustrates that he is hesitant because he is sort of defending himself against a complaint that can be made on his play when it has not been made. This reminds me of a comment scum!Eggy made in his last game: "Im sorry for being afk most of D1 I was busy which is not AI." guilty This post basically condemns me for activity without overtly stateing it.
Read again.
And your reads on me for the both of you are horribly bad as per usual. And might I add saying he's never inquisitive or the like is foolish as neither of you know anything of me past one game.
So we cannot know anything about you for having played one game with you, but you can say our reads on you are bad as per usual?
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Shitty laggy website makes my posting so slow that Calix ninja's me every time, zzz.
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On October 10 2016 07:59 Damdred wrote: And it is sort of funny saying my play lacks x or y when I have only played for like 5 hours maybe? Which granted is changing but that's neither here or,there, and I am not shackled to one play style in any regards. ?
What is X and what is y? I don't remember anyone saying your play lacked anything.
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On October 10 2016 08:32 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 08:08 Koshi wrote: I don't know how far you are Damdred. But you are pretty defensive and aggressive for somebody who hasn't read the thread yet. Why? Cause I hate being scum read for what I consider shifty reasons.
You did not mind it last game.
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On October 10 2016 08:35 Damdred wrote: If you scum read me it honestly can only be for Poe (or should be). And that reasoning is somewhat ok, trying to,over explain and nit pick like what 8 posts to justify a lynch past policy isn't justifiable imo.
But that's neither here or their. All of the cases I've seen so far were based on less than 8 'nit-picked' posts. There's no over-explanation in my filter dive of you.
Why could someone tr you iyo?
Who do you see as scum from where you're at?
On October 10 2016 08:36 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 08:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 08:32 Damdred wrote:On October 10 2016 08:08 Koshi wrote: I don't know how far you are Damdred. But you are pretty defensive and aggressive for somebody who hasn't read the thread yet. Why? Cause I hate being scum read for what I consider shifty reasons. You did not mind it last game. Than you are blind and I thought the reasons were so shifty that I ignored half of what was going on and attacked people? I don't recall you attacking anybody in that game.
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[From my filter]
I've read Damdred's filter. He's lock scum to me.
On October 05 2016 03:34 Damdred wrote: Stutters Bats
Super
Hf
Is my scum pool currently. I'm somewhat more confident in almost everyone else being town.
3 flipped town, other is a guy who had made 4 posts from which 2 were questions. Scummiest player in the game? Awful scum pool.
On October 05 2016 03:38 Damdred wrote: Like stutters feels more like a policy lynch with how sideline and active he is (or isn't in this case) so if we have to policy lynch we should do him.
Bats I think is on the sideline and is just posting things to exist basically. His one tinfoil isn't enough and I don't really see him sticking his neck,out and he's super agreeable and right in the middle on certain subjects (hf I believe) he also asked several questions that seemed not to,go anywhere.
I'd rather lynch bats atm
Bats was one of the few to scum-read Damdred with me day 1. He has not been agreeable nor in "the middle on certain objects".
What tinfoil?
Bats was not posting things just to exist. That is actually what Damdred has done. Same goes for his point about questions leading nowhere.
That is one bad scum-read.
On October 05 2016 03:41 Damdred wrote: Hf probably going to rage on me to which will be sad and I do just do nit think super and hf will be on the same scum team with how super just name dropped him so easily.
Also super even when using the lurker d1 stool had decent posts when we last played instead here kind of seems like he is wanting to poke marv to rage instead of doing anything interesting.
Kind of think super is scum.
Very hesitant in his read.
Super's interaction with marv (re: "TMI'ing Calix as town") was in no way something that Super made in an attempt to make marv rage.
On October 05 2016 05:25 Damdred wrote: I will say I've missed the marv sassiness in my life.
Grack could be scum to,I guess he's not been to amazing yet, but I have a higher view of his scum game than his town game over all.
Like as scum I generally see him as mire proactive and leading away while. I'm not sure lazy Grack makes me sad (and I think more likely town by my experience so far) Hesitation.
On October 05 2016 05:28 Damdred wrote: Hi marv.
Did you disagree with anything I've thought so far?
Interesting that he chose to say DISAGREE over AGREE. As in he expected marv to disagree. Again, this shows how hestiant he is.
On October 05 2016 07:08 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me. You just do not have good taste then since even calix town reads me. Maybe I'm wrong about NU being town I'm unsure now based on him reading the game opposite how he would idk.
"Even Calix town-reads me" What is this supposed to mean? It's as if he was trying to convince me to TR him because Calix did. Absolutely shit argument.
What does he know about how I would read the game? Hestitant read.
I've seen zero town motivation in his posts. I would like to hear why Koshi and Calix TR the guy.
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First part is about your #1 scum-read being someone who posted 4 times.
re:being hesitant: But the thing is you are unsure of every single read. As if you did not want to actually call someone mafia because you knew they were not mafia.
In your response, you disagree with the points I make against you, but you do not disagree with the essence of the filter-dive which is that you are scum. At the very least, I find the way you state you don’t agree interesting. "which doesn't make me,scum." "This isn't really a point against me" "I don't really think it's a point against me"
I do not understand why you have to downplay/discredit the « case » and me. It seems like you’re trying to shut down conversation and minimalize the points made against you rather than attempting to be understood. "Its a bad case but I still do not think you are scum just dumb." "That's a bad case tbh," "Overall your case is a narrative that lacks context and attempts to paint,me as scum,while,ignoring other moving,parts in,the thread."
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I want your scum-reads, both of you.
On October 10 2016 09:07 Damdred wrote: And I mean dumb as I really do,enjoy you NU and Mean it in a loving way.
o.o ?
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On October 10 2016 09:54 Oatsmaster wrote: I realised that Palmar is being lynhed for a lot of the same things Marv is doing but Marv isn't under any pressure lol. And why are you defending Plam exactly?
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Damn it, you have no sick reads.
Why is Damdred your 2nd and why is Plam your 3rd? Short answers please, watching the debate.
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On October 07 2016 05:22 Holyflare wrote:Koshi Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695 NeverUnlucky Oatsmaster Superbia batsnacks, Vanilla town, lynched D1. Grackaroni This is my list of potential mafia. Even green flipped bats. + Show Spoiler + Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695
Maybe add oats for atrocious night posts but kinda like his style. Maybe remove jat if he goves me a frilly list post of mafia reads. A lot of townish reads can also come back, Superbia very very flimsy town read.
On October 10 2016 02:06 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:45 Calix wrote: Question. How involved have Palmar/ Grack/ Oats been in the mislynches?
Stutters/ Scott has either been AFK or jumped on the bandwagon and the only person even remotely involved in the Superbia mislynch was Grack.
I think it'll be useful to note down what each of them did.
We could even divvy it up between us or some shit, lol. This is incredibly rich. You have hard pushed all 3 flipped town so far. Mafia don't even need to be involved in anything because you are doing everything for them. At least 2 are mafia from the Marv/JAT/Koshi group because they are reading the game incredibly wrong. One of them is being clueless. The other mafia is between Damdred/Scott.
Common scum-reads: Damdred/Scott/Marv/Jat.
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On October 10 2016 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 10:36 NeverUnlucky wrote: Damn it, you have no sick reads.
Why is Damdred your 2nd and why is Plam your 3rd? Short answers please, watching the debate. I really don't like the way damdred re entered the game with him being all salty he got scum-read. Don't waste your time man, I couldn't take trump turning everything into what Hillary has done badly.
It really was a waste of my time. I wish I could get a refund on that hour and a half I just wasted.
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On October 10 2016 14:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 10:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 05:22 Holyflare wrote:Koshi Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695 NeverUnlucky Oatsmaster Superbia batsnacks, Vanilla town, lynched D1. Grackaroni This is my list of potential mafia. Even green flipped bats. + Show Spoiler + Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695
Maybe add oats for atrocious night posts but kinda like his style. Maybe remove jat if he goves me a frilly list post of mafia reads. A lot of townish reads can also come back, Superbia very very flimsy town read.
On October 10 2016 02:06 Grackaroni wrote:On October 09 2016 23:45 Calix wrote: Question. How involved have Palmar/ Grack/ Oats been in the mislynches?
Stutters/ Scott has either been AFK or jumped on the bandwagon and the only person even remotely involved in the Superbia mislynch was Grack.
I think it'll be useful to note down what each of them did.
We could even divvy it up between us or some shit, lol. This is incredibly rich. You have hard pushed all 3 flipped town so far. Mafia don't even need to be involved in anything because you are doing everything for them. At least 2 are mafia from the Marv/JAT/Koshi group because they are reading the game incredibly wrong. One of them is being clueless. The other mafia is between Damdred/Scott. Common scum-reads: Damdred/Scott/Marv/Jat. Not true. HF actually went out of his way to say that he does not scumread me right after that. He was also the only player in the game who defended me against some of the sillier accusations against me (calix comes to mind) while basically everyone in the game was calling me mafia to some degree. The scumreads which the nightkills actually have in common are marv/damdred/scott. Maybe HF didn't scum-read you, but he still had you in his mafia list for "underwhelming play" to quote him.
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On October 10 2016 22:17 Damdred wrote: Basically if I say it both of you think it's a bad post, even if it is the truth.
If someone else says something against me,it's a good post. Never case against me is bad I explained why.
And I'd rather argue and take part,in the thread while I catch up than read 100 pages and disappear for most of the day.
Also to point out something that calix says, he's trying to use against me (about the marv point) and well it's super important the context of the thread and how marv actually reacted. It matters a lot actually what others/marv himself states after I make my point.
You have no intent to show that you are town. All you want to do is disprove the case "making you scum" (see bolded text and Point 3 of Calix's response) without making yourself appear as town.
You show no intent to try and solve the game.
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On October 10 2016 22:39 Damdred wrote: Also voting palmar cause I liked what marv had to say and think there is a decent chance he's scum.
Still reading though What specifically did you like?
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Wait, so... You are trying to convince me that the NAI guy is supposed to claim one of the remaining town slots there is?
Koshi Calix NU Cop** Oats
Marv Palmar Jat Scott Damdred
You think being NAI is enough to claim the last town slot (if you're not cop)? You're going to have to come up with something better if you don't want to be lynched.
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Calix, you have to unvote (scott) before you vote for someone else. It is mandatory. c:
If Damdred's town, I see marv, jat, scott as scum.
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On October 11 2016 00:34 NeverUnlucky wrote: Filter-diving Calix. I'm tilted after reading the first 7 pages.
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On October 11 2016 00:59 Calix wrote: On the one hand, I know you are just burning your time.
On the other hand, I was mocking people in my scum game because nobody questioned me at all until Day 4, so can't really blame people for being paranoid. This is not me being paranoid. This is me consolidating/revisiting my read. HF and Grack were suspicious of you, so I just want to make sure I'm not reenacting Blind Faith NU.
Please do tell me why iyo people should town-read you. I don't think I can stand another minute of reading your bad bad bad bad bad posts.
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Your content is great. Your tone and attitude is not.
Propose a better scum-team then. I'm listening.
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On October 11 2016 01:07 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 01:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 11 2016 00:59 Calix wrote: On the one hand, I know you are just burning your time.
On the other hand, I was mocking people in my scum game because nobody questioned me at all until Day 4, so can't really blame people for being paranoid. This is not me being paranoid. This is me consolidating/revisiting my read. HF and Grack were suspicious of you, so I just want to make sure I'm not reenacting Blind Faith NU. Please do tell me why iyo people should town-read you. I don't think I can stand another minute of reading your bad bad bad bad bad posts. No. Bonus: It means you have to keep reading my posts
I'm going to be bald at the end of the day...
(note that I'm not a red-head)
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I'm finding some posts that would make me scum-read Calix, but I just am not able to. My gut tells me with confidence that she is town.
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My filter already has more than enough posts for which you can laugh at me. c:
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On October 11 2016 03:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote: And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town? You said the same thing about superbia I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive. I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv. Ok, you can just die then. Once again you call marv 100 % mafia and vote me instead. I can see him being mafia if you aren't but I am definitely not and there is no reason for you to think so either. So basically you have to be mafia.
bla bla bla I am mafia bla bla bla
He calls you obvious mafia as well. It is only normal for him to vote you. There's no inconsistency in what he said.
"I can see him being mafia if you aren't" -> "So basically you have to be mafia" Nice contradiction.
Also, your post makes no sense. You come up with, "So basically you have to be mafia" as a conclusion to "Maybe marv is maybe if you are not, but I am not mafia". There is no correlation between these two statements.
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On October 11 2016 04:29 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 04:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 11 2016 03:54 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote: And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town? You said the same thing about superbia I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive. I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv. Ok, you can just die then. Once again you call marv 100 % mafia and vote me instead. I can see him being mafia if you aren't but I am definitely not and there is no reason for you to think so either. So basically you have to be mafia. bla bla bla I am mafia bla bla bla He calls you obvious mafia as well. It is only normal for him to vote you. There's no inconsistency in what he said. "I can see him being mafia if you aren't" -> "So basically you have to be mafia" Nice contradiction. Also, your post makes no sense. You come up with, "So basically you have to be mafia" as a conclusion to "Maybe marv is maybe if you are not, but I am not mafia". There is no correlation between these two statements. Why are you defending the person that you're voting for? And why are you comfortable voting with two of your scum-reads? ??? Except I'm voting Jat.
His last post was yet another example of how self-centered his play is. He comes by when his name is summoned or when someone scum-reads him.
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No, it does not make him mafia.
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Think that's what I'm doing, yeah.
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On October 11 2016 04:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 04:36 NeverUnlucky wrote: Think that's what I'm doing, yeah. Then I don't know what to tell you besides that you are really terrible at this game. What tells you that I'm not mafia with Palmar?
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On October 11 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: palmar/oats +1 Would you case Oats?
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On October 11 2016 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 05:46 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 11 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: palmar/oats +1 Would you case Oats? Maybe I will tomorrow. I already gave reasons for that which I am sure you remember. I did not agree with said reasons.
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Certainly not Calix whining.
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I am advocating for a cop claim at this point. Reducing the PoE pool (assuming the cop is in there) outweighs the benefits of having cop checks whose checks are not to be trusted with GF/Framer still alive imo. That and I'm lazy so I would like someone to be town-cleared.
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On October 11 2016 06:51 Calix wrote: Certainly not NU stating the obvious. >.>
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On October 11 2016 07:09 Calix wrote: I wish we had just lynched Palmar on Day 1. At least batsnacks' conspiracy theories would have been something -_- I still have nightmares of voting bats over Palmar.
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Palmar, I think you should roleclaim.
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Falling back to my D1 gut reads which are usually accurate.
Mafia: Marv/Jat/HF*/Damdred Town circle: Grack, Koshi, Superbia, Calix Lean town: Bats Null: Stutters, Palmar (town tone).
This time I am not voting someone whom I don't scum-read. If 2/3 of my mafia reads were wrong, I accept losing the game.
From now on, I will lurk. I'm too annoyed at the game to keep up with my activity.
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On October 11 2016 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:I admit he sounds like town right now. But he is pretty decent at faking that. Refer me to a game he was mafia (not his afk mafia play).
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On October 11 2016 08:02 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote: Palmar is obvious town. I admit he sounds like town right now. But he is pretty decent at faking that. I would really hope that mafia!Palmar has a bit more pride than to whine this much as scum. You whine when he's afk, you whine when he's here. You're hard to please.
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Ok, I will read Palmar's filter in that game.
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On October 11 2016 08:34 Calix wrote: I just did. I was pleasantly surprised to see him actually play the game like a normal person.
He does some similar shit to this game (e.g., calling his town-reads bad)...but I see no excessive whining posts and that's the only thing that does it for me at the moment. Mmk. Marv + Scott/jat + Damdred?
I don't see really see scott fitting in there, and jat I don't feel strongly about.
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The mind melds are real this game.
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This is Completely Generic Mafia.
Palmar claims he rolled scum in his 7th post. He is way more hesitant than his "Calix is 100% mafia" self in this game. He also asks questions which I have not seen him do in this game.
Also, his 2 first pages of filter are only him calling others town. ie he's town-hunting vs. now his first posts were geared towards looking for scum.
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On October 11 2016 08:46 Calix wrote: So let's lynch Damdred. This makes way more sense since that clears up more.
I really don't think Marv is scum and I'm not in the business of lynching him based on his inactivity. How is lynching Damdred different in that case?
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On October 10 2016 09:53 Oatsmaster wrote: I really don't feel like I'm lynching Scott causr he hasn't played, I'm lynching Scott because he's been scummy as absolutely shit with his votes and posts. What posts were scummy?
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Another post regarding Damdred if you'd like. Also, I'm claiming the credit you're giving Calix for pushing Damdred. I started that shit.
I've read Damdred's filter. He's lock scum to me.
On October 05 2016 03:34 Damdred wrote: Stutters Bats
Super
Hf
Is my scum pool currently. I'm somewhat more confident in almost everyone else being town.
3 flipped town, other is a guy who had made 4 posts from which 2 were questions. Scummiest player in the game? Awful scum pool.
On October 05 2016 03:38 Damdred wrote: Like stutters feels more like a policy lynch with how sideline and active he is (or isn't in this case) so if we have to policy lynch we should do him.
Bats I think is on the sideline and is just posting things to exist basically. His one tinfoil isn't enough and I don't really see him sticking his neck,out and he's super agreeable and right in the middle on certain subjects (hf I believe) he also asked several questions that seemed not to,go anywhere.
I'd rather lynch bats atm
Bats was one of the few to scum-read Damdred with me day 1. He has not been agreeable nor in "the middle on certain objects".
What tinfoil?
Bats was not posting things just to exist. That is actually what Damdred has done. Same goes for his point about questions leading nowhere.
That is one bad scum-read.
On October 05 2016 03:41 Damdred wrote: Hf probably going to rage on me to which will be sad and I do just do nit think super and hf will be on the same scum team with how super just name dropped him so easily.
Also super even when using the lurker d1 stool had decent posts when we last played instead here kind of seems like he is wanting to poke marv to rage instead of doing anything interesting.
Kind of think super is scum.
Very hesitant in his read.
Super's interaction with marv (re: "TMI'ing Calix as town") was in no way something that Super made in an attempt to make marv rage.
On October 05 2016 05:25 Damdred wrote: I will say I've missed the marv sassiness in my life.
Grack could be scum to,I guess he's not been to amazing yet, but I have a higher view of his scum game than his town game over all.
Like as scum I generally see him as mire proactive and leading away while. I'm not sure lazy Grack makes me sad (and I think more likely town by my experience so far) Hesitation.
On October 05 2016 05:28 Damdred wrote: Hi marv.
Did you disagree with anything I've thought so far?
Interesting that he chose to say DISAGREE over AGREE. As in he expected marv to disagree. Again, this shows how hestiant he is.
On October 05 2016 07:08 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me. You just do not have good taste then since even calix town reads me. Maybe I'm wrong about NU being town I'm unsure now based on him reading the game opposite how he would idk.
"Even Calix town-reads me" What is this supposed to mean? It's as if he was trying to convince me to TR him because Calix did. Absolutely shit argument.
What does he know about how I would read the game? Hestitant read.
I've seen zero town motivation in his posts. I would like to hear why Koshi and Calix TR the guy.
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On October 11 2016 23:32 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 23:28 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 23:26 Calix wrote: If you want to do that, Palmar, then try voting for Damdred.
Or JAT. Maybe. I'm getting that feeling about his posts again -_- Please don't start being bad again. I am getting tired of being called bad every time I suspect NU/ Palmar/ JAT. FYI, posts like these are what ping me. Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote: Palmar is obvious town. I admit he sounds like town right now. But he is pretty decent at faking that. Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 23:13 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 23:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 11 2016 23:09 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 23:04 marvellosity wrote:On October 11 2016 21:43 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote: I would also like to point out that you need to read Palmar JAT Oats Scott
In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not. I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today. tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter) At which point are we supposed to lynch Palmar in your opinion? If we mislynch today we are in LYLO... it just means i don't think he's mafia. Then who is? You already dismissed oats for a really stupid reason. I think you should read his filter instead of saying "he could never post 7 pages as mafia". Especially if you think Palmar is town. it's not really stupid at all. Yes, it is. 7 pages is nothing at this point. And if I remember correctly oats had a few decent mafia games from time to time, no? Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 23:21 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 23:15 marvellosity wrote: just to be super clear: I'm not saying Oats is lock town because he has 7 pages of filter. Of course he is capable of that as mafia. But when I am very short of time, someone having 7 pages of filter when his last 5 games have 2-5 pages of filter as mafia is a helpful metric Oats hasn't played in ages btw. so he might very well be more active as mafia. I apologize for calling you bad throughout day one. I think you are a good, logical player, and I enjoy playing with you. Sorry if my careless behavior bothered you. :/
I too am annoyed that those who are actually playing the game are being called bad for scum-reading Damdred, jat, and Palmer.
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I do have a question. Why am I sxum?
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I was never paranoid over Calix. You saying that makes me think that you are scum even more because you tool my gambit seriously and Calix was not killed.
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On October 12 2016 01:00 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 00:43 justanothertownie wrote:On October 12 2016 00:41 Damdred wrote: Calix Koshi Oatsmaster Jat Never Palmar/Marc Scott
I think one of palmar and marv are scum,but not both. Scott makes a good bit of sense with his posts and safe votes with no real reasoning.
Any other questions you can ask. Is this list ordered? If so I would like to an explanation on your oats and nu reads when you have the time. However I have a reason for town reading never and upward as town. I call bullshit.
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Scott's last post is pure shit.
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Quickly did a chart of everyone's reads to get a picture of the situation.
Everybody but Scott scum-reads him. This means one of two things: 1) Scum agree on bussing Scott; 2) Scott is scum.
Marv's reads have big question marks on them because of these posts:
On October 11 2016 20:14 marvellosity wrote: don't mind what Calix had to say about Damdred (read last 3 pages of Calix's filter + Damdred's filter).
Damdred could easily be mafia but I don't know how to say so with any confidence. I agree with Calix that Damdred's long defence post was quite poor.
On October 11 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:15 scott31337 wrote: Sorry I've really had a loss of time - friend needed a hand with some things - etc This week is fall break so work should be slow.
Grack dying instead of basically any body else makes me think my reads are crap.
I'll be tearing it up tomorrow. What's the rationale for this exactly? Also no tearing it up occurred. scott can easily be mafia because there's been no interesting thought whatsoever. I don't know how to call him mafia with any confidence, however. ^ This looks like a shy bus. Also worth noting that scott town-reads marv.
On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote: I would also like to point out that you need to read Palmar JAT Oats Scott
In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not. I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today.
tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town
i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter)
Marv + Scott makes a lot of sense to me. I'd lynch either today.
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EBWOP
2) Scott is town**
Marv only has two scum-reads and he has no confidence in either.
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I apologize to those who are color blind by the way.
On October 12 2016 02:14 Calix wrote: I don't scum-read Marv. I just don't really town-read him either.
Scott seems like the best option tbh because I really can't see town motivation in his posts. Ok.
Neither can I.
What do you make of Marv's hesitation to give reads? More specifically, am I right to think that the post in which he talked about scott I quoted looked like a shy bus?
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Just read through his newbie game filter. Noticed a few things that may mean something.
-He gives his opinion on things rather than agreeing with/questioning others; -His posts are generally longer; -He has made 3 different reads lists over 2 days; -He states who he wants to lynch clearly; -He questions himself and shows paranoia.
Quite different from what I've seen from him this game.
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On October 12 2016 03:06 Calix wrote: NU, what did you make of Damdred's recent content? I don't know. He's neither town nor scum in these last few posts. I can't find anything to lean on either side.
One thing I don't like is that the scum-team he puts forward only has 2 members[Scott + Palmar/Marv].
Honestly, I've been trying to answer your question for 10 minutes now, and this is all I could come up with. Let me know if you can find something peculiar in his posts.
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I technically cannot be around at EoD. Who should I vote for before I leave?
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On October 12 2016 03:27 Calix wrote: If Scott is town then I'll concede that we sucked ass this game and gladly take the loss. If Scott is town, NU will put on his tryhard panties and carry the game home.
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On October 12 2016 03:43 Calix wrote: I know what you were getting at but it's a dumb question. Hmm, no. In the case that there is a CFD, I want my vote to make any lynch possible.
Then again, Grack's dead, and I won't be there, so no CFD for today.
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It's no different from lunatic from last game.
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Last game, scott claimed before he had to leave. I dont think hes cop, so we're fine.
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OH MY FUCKING GOD, I AM SO PISSED AT YOU FUCKING MORONS. PALMAR WAS OBVIOUS TOWN. OF COURSE YOU GUYS LYNCH HIM WHEN HE AND I ARE AWAY AND CAN'T DEFEND HIM.
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Like pissed to the point where I was fucking driving at fucking 160 km/h on the highway to come back home early to tell you guys HOW FUCKING BAD YOU ARE
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Especially Calix, HOLY SHIT, this girl NEVER FUCKING LISTENS TO ME! I told her bats was town, had Superbia in my D1 town circle, called Palmar obvious town... I WAS RIGHT EVERYTIME.
LIKE SHIT, you know I can read players 10000000000 times better than you'll ever can. The last time I rolled town on our homesite I solved the game D1. Now Frog MODCONFIRMED THAT I SOLVED MEAN GIRLS 150 POSTS IN IN THE OBS CHAT. JUST SHEEP ME! YOU ARE KNOWN TO LEAD MISLYNCHES AND BE THE HONORARY 4TH MAFIA AND YOU PROVED JUST THAT ONCE AGAIN.
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Oh fuck no, you're not going to be bed right now even if it's 11 PM. Tomorrow is Wednesday which means I won't fucking have time to play AT ALL, and since I'm the last town who fucking knows who's town and who's mafia, mafia are going to NK me unless they think they can make me paranoid (HINT THEY CANT). You're staying here and I'm telling you exactly what you're going to fucking do for the next three lynches.
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No, it's not fucking game even if it's 3x LYLO. It's only game if losers like you who are insecure and paranoid about being red-checked for no fucking reason don't listen to me.
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On October 12 2016 07:01 Oatsmaster wrote: How the fuck did we not lynch scott??? Fucking retarded Koshi and Calix I FUCKING SWEAR
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Literally my POE pool was marv/jat/damdred/scot. We ML scott, guess what we still have auto-win. Nope, Calix and Koshi needed to be retards.
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On October 12 2016 07:03 Calix wrote: Now NU is pointlessly raging over a game which is lost because no way are we going to lynch all three scum in a row. It's not fucking lost. Scott is confirmed mafia now because mafia noticed that Palmar and I were not online at EoD so they saw the opportunity to ML OBVIOUS TOWN PALMAR and they did.
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Scott and Jat are 100% scum.
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Damdred/Marv is the third. I won't be around to solve this one for you by the time it comes down to the wire.
Marv's got town tone, Damdred I liked his recent posts. We have 50/50 chance of winning if we flip the coin now. It's not fucking lost. Just lynch Jat tomorrow, then scott, then resolve this last clue.
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On October 12 2016 07:07 Calix wrote: Also NU raging is typical for him.
Not that I am particularly bothered as long as he doesn't start calling people cunts or telling people to go kill themselves or some shit. Raging is typical for me? This is literally the first time you see me doing that in a FM game (I did rage in a Skype mafia game where my town buddies were too fucking dumb to see how obvious scum DB and you were).
If you’re bothered you can go ahead and cry about how your favorite food is water, dipshit.
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On October 12 2016 07:08 Damdred wrote: Like just gut feeling,
NU and Koshi are never scum here, NU way to over the top in his rage.
JAT is possible, I think scott is probably scum.
Calix idk seems a bit really passive now and seemed a bit that way going into the lynch now as well which is strange.
Marv is a bit of a coin flip right now, his tone and reaction to the lynch wasn't the most horrible. Kinda feels like hes just accepted being the lynch a bit but i've seen him fake things like that before.
Ok, fucking forget what I just said. This guy is either fucking atrocious or scum.
There is no "I think X is scum here" "Y is town there" after that big ML just took place. Everything is fucking set in stone ESPECIALLY IF YOU KNOW YOU ARE TOWN LOOL.
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On October 12 2016 07:12 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 07:11 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 12 2016 07:07 Calix wrote: Also NU raging is typical for him.
Not that I am particularly bothered as long as he doesn't start calling people cunts or telling people to go kill themselves or some shit. Raging is typical for me? This is literally the first time you see me doing that in a FM game (I did rage in a Skype mafia game where my town buddies were too fucking dumb to see how obvious scum DB and you were). If you’re bothered you can go ahead and cry about how your favorite food is water, dipshit. You know it's bad when you're literally quoting Duck. I admit that this made me laugh. Sorry if what I'm saying hurts you btw, I'm like drunk in rage rn.
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Lol, you can be scum.
Only way you’re town is if you claim cop. If you are, claim now. Your checks are meaningless because the game is solved other than you/marv.
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On October 12 2016 07:17 Calix wrote: NU, you're just making a fool out of yourself. It's cheap entertainment, nothing more to it. The fools are the fucking 4 other townies that voted someone outside of marv//scott yesterday and you.
I don't care what I'm making myself look like.
I really hope that I am wrong and that you are scum, Calix, because your play was piss poor this game.
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On October 12 2016 07:21 Calix wrote: It's JAT/ Scott/ Damdred.
This speaks for itself, my dude. Game solved.
Vote NU MVP endgame.
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Ok, sorry I said that, Calix.
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Cop needs to claim ASAP to confirm the scumteam. Claiming past EoN is too late, scum will challenge a 1v1 and it’s not in town’s favor.
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Jat -> Scott ->Damdred.
In that order.
Reconsider DDD if needed.
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Although that scum-team implies that Koshi is a shit player and was wrong on everyone.
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On October 12 2016 07:28 Calix wrote: It's amusing seeing you switch between insulting me and apologising. How stereotypically Canadian.
As it stands, I consider the game to be solved as well, so my interest in the game will drop rapidly.
Same. Bad thing is I need my drug fix and don't want to lay in SJ’s game (Bad host reputation, bad setup, bad playerbase) nor in Dota 2 because 17 players looks like a lot.
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On October 12 2016 07:38 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 07:21 Calix wrote: It's JAT/ Scott/ Damdred.
This speaks for itself, my dude. At least one wrong sadly I suppose your one scum-read that’s left is a better proposition, hmm?
Also, I’m sure you are town for voting Palmar who was ½ scum for you over your 100% scum-read on Scott.
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I've just read Jat's reaction to the NKs and lynches and, god, is it obvious that he is scum.
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I would, but the site's being extremely laggy. Also, tonight we'll see if the scum-team are smart or fucking dumb with the kill they choose.
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On October 06 2016 21:57 marvellosity wrote: Don't ever want to lynch Nu for the zing on hf I thought this was a townie post.
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Damdred, you have yet to propose a scum-team that could make sense. Piss off with the "you are wrong".
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Honestly, if Calix is scum, she's played an amazing game and pocketed me like a coin. I think she deserves the win if that is the case and would never lynch her.
But she's not scum.
Seriously, dude, you're in the PoE pool. If you're town you know 100% who is the scum unless you can prove to me why Koshi would be scum.
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On October 12 2016 08:16 Damdred wrote: Its not confidence if you are town its just confirmation bias at this point.
NU are you going to be around for awhile? I've 3 hours ahead of me, yeah. I won't be there at all tomorrow and probably for the rest of the game (game you got replaced by MattZed 1205).
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On October 12 2016 08:18 NeverUnlucky wrote: Seriously, dude, you're in the PoE pool. If you're town you know 100% who is the scum unless you can prove to me why Koshi would be scum.
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Anything that has Calix and Oats as scum I won't read.
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On October 12 2016 08:23 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 08:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 12 2016 08:16 Damdred wrote: Its not confidence if you are town its just confirmation bias at this point.
NU are you going to be around for awhile? I've 3 hours ahead of me, yeah. I won't be there at all tomorrow and probably for the rest of the game (game you got replaced by MattZed 1205). lmao xD
The end of the sentence is what the code is about obviously.
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On October 12 2016 08:25 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 08:23 NeverUnlucky wrote: Anything that has Calix and Oats as scum I won't read. If you want more bants, you should check out 2164 again :') Lmao, that was a funny one. I miss Paladin, for real. He thought me the basics of this game :'(
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On October 12 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote: Like you are acting as if you have a red check on me when you do not becuase it is impossible. Interesting that that is what you have in the back of your mind with Calix's push.
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Reminds me dangerously of ScumLix in the last newbie game when she was pushed by TicTock.
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Self-voting is not allowed. But ok, we'll lynch you tomorrow.
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On October 12 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote: Like you are acting as if you have a red check on me when you do not becuase it is impossible. Godfather claim.
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On October 12 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote: Like you are acting as if you have a red check on me when you do not becuase it is impossible. How is it impossible?
What if I told you I have a red-check on you?
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Damdred's very early scum-read of Scott and Scott's awful votes on Damdred actually makes me confident that Damdred is not the last piece of the puzzle.
Go with Marv instead. Sheep Palmar and Koshi on that read, and lynch Big Dick Marv 3rd. Makes sense considering called Marv an obvious town without ever going in the details.
Jat -> Scott -> Marv.
Donezo.
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On October 12 2016 07:45 Calix wrote: Oh do quote, darling.
On October 07 2016 06:09 justanothertownie wrote: That sucks a lot.
On October 09 2016 06:05 justanothertownie wrote: wow
absolute trash tier performance
On October 10 2016 06:07 justanothertownie wrote: Dafuq is that kill?
On October 12 2016 06:05 justanothertownie wrote: ...
All of these post-flip posts are so fucking forced, it is unreal. I never ever ever see a town making these posts that are stating the obvious at best. In his following posts, he doesn't even try to explain why HF/Grack were killed possibly in fear of TMI. I would vote him for this alone, but he's done much worse with his pushes, interactions with Superbia/Grack/HF, tone, and reads. Plus, those who were NKed and Palmer and Superbia scum-read that guy. They're not bad by any means.
Lynch this guy. Don't ever back off him tomorrow like you did with scott today. Free mafia flip.
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Calix, I'll try getting my hands on a computer between 5:30 - 7:15 pm your time. I want things clarified.
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Restating that cop should claim.
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Koshi, g un kro chè roux je sur dent dress.
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"Anyone who goes into triple LYLO after only townies were lynched all game with the attitude of "this is the exact scumteam" is really really stupid and naive. "
So be it. I'm not budging.
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On October 12 2016 09:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote: Like you are acting as if you have a red check on me when you do not becuase it is impossible. How is it impossible? What if I told you I have a red-check on you?
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On October 12 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote: Because I don't know what a scum team that makes sense woudl be.
Scott/JAT/Marv seems plausible but I am not sure that Marv or JAT are 100% scum, Jat is more likely than marv i think probably.
I also think maybe I need to look at Calix again tbh, just seems to sure what she wants to push to the finish to set in stone.
Oats is also a slight possiblity
Like Scott and JAT I can pair on a team without feeling anything but yeah thats probably right, the third one i'm just not sold on. Damdred goes from there is certainly a scum between Palmar and marv to being "not sure that marv [is] 100% scum" after Palmar's town flip.
He also cannot explain why he voted Palmar whom he thought was scum if Marv was town over his 100% scum-read of Scott. "Palmar is harder to lynch" is not a town explanation. It's opportunistic as fuck.
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"The supposed scumteam you guys (nu/calix) are suggesting makes no fucking sense upon further inspection. What you are saying is essentially that damdred and I threw the game yesterday in order to achieve what exactly? A single mislynch on Palmar? Why would we EVER not bus scott there? Sure, one more mislynch is nice but we look like utter shit in LYLO and will probably lose."
^Says that scum not bussing scott is throwing the game...
"The reality is that I am not mafia and that mafia are probably not retarded like that. They need to have a backup plan for LYLO IF they save scott. The damdred/me team does not have that. I think it is way more likely that mafias general plan was to bus scott yesterday and win the game after that. We just made it easier for them with our shennanies which were predominantly town driven. If scott is mafia then AT LEAST 2/4 people "CFDing" him yesterday still have to be town."
^Says that scum did in fact ending up not bussing Scott.
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Marv has yet to explain why he voted Palmar over Scott when he said that he was hedging his read on Palmar and not on Scott.
Also, the timing at which marv happened to come back to play this game coincidentally corresponds to the time where he was starting to be voted up.
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[Still in the same game MZ took your slot, #1]
Calix okay. Paladin beep beep.
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On October 12 2016 23:37 justanothertownie wrote: You have to discriminate between the rist paragraph where I am talking about your proposed scumteam and the second one where I talk about what I think is reality. It's exactly what I am saying. You say that it is stupid for scum to switch from Scott to Palmar, but then say that it is precisely what they did.
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On October 05 2016 03:42 Damdred wrote: And hf push on calix really wasn't that bad so kind if just want to take him off the table today and it was kind of a weak Poe anyway. But I'd like to leave him there so he won't ignore me this game.
But on another note- <3 you town jat This "<3 you town jat" has always puzzled me.
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On October 12 2016 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 23:43 Calix wrote: This conversation is dumb. Scum risked the negative attention by mislynching on Day 3 because it means we're in triple LYLO and means that they only have to convince one of the townies to vote incorrectly for the town to lose...over THREE days.
Or they just don't do that, bus scott and achieve the same result only one day later without outing themselves as mafia. What does mafia gain from going all out to save scott today when we are most likely lynching him tomorrow anyways? See #3299.
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And no, we were not lynching Palmar today. I can be online at today's EoD, so there would not have been a Palmar CFD. Scum took advantage of Palmar and I being mia at EoD to lynch him "because he is hard to lynch".
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On October 12 2016 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 23:51 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 05 2016 03:42 Damdred wrote: And hf push on calix really wasn't that bad so kind if just want to take him off the table today and it was kind of a weak Poe anyway. But I'd like to leave him there so he won't ignore me this game.
But on another note- <3 you town jat This "<3 you town jat" has always puzzled me. In before you call that scummy. This is basically a spew if he is mafia. He is mafia.
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The two things that make me second-think why Jat may be town is that he actually had a read progression on Superbia and had the balls to get his hands dirty (could be Wifom though) and he was considerably active.
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On October 13 2016 00:22 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 00:18 Calix wrote:On October 13 2016 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On October 13 2016 00:11 Calix wrote:On October 13 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote: And if you think I would plan ahead for 4 days as mafia then you are even more insane. I'm clearly arguing that you planned out how you were going to treat Stutters/ Scott, not that you plotted on Day 1 for this very specific moment where Scott was almost-lynched. Plz Who knows. You are assuming all kinds of nonsense right now. Ah yes, such nonsensical concepts such as "scum!JAT switched trains onto a mislynch at the last minute" Truly radical, ground-breaking ideas there. I sense this is just going to turn into shit-flinging so I'm off to run the errands. You can put it this way. Or you can put it like this: scum!JAT decided to switch trains and throw the game in order to save his useless scumbuddy for one (!) day. Suddenly it is truly radical, ground-breaking bullshit. It is not radical. It makes a lot of sense, and it is incontestably what happened yesterday no matter your alignment.
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Kind of sounds town maybe.
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On October 13 2016 05:13 Calix wrote: Yo NU, I just got back. What did you want with me earlier? Discuss 3295 and Jat and Scott.
I've to go though.
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On October 13 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 05:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 05:13 Calix wrote: Yo NU, I just got back. What did you want with me earlier? Discuss 3295 and Jat and Scott. I've to go though. You're going to have to clarify that one for me. Bad timing, it seems. it has to do with the numbers and 2164
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On October 13 2016 05:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:On October 13 2016 05:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 05:13 Calix wrote: Yo NU, I just got back. What did you want with me earlier? Discuss 3295 and Jat and Scott. I've to go though. You're going to have to clarify that one for me. Bad timing, it seems. it has to do with the numbers and 2164 dont bother figuring this one out, im probaly dead tonight
do good without me
marv damd scott imo
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On October 13 2016 05:59 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 05:26 Calix wrote:On October 13 2016 05:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 05:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:On October 13 2016 05:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 05:13 Calix wrote: Yo NU, I just got back. What did you want with me earlier? Discuss 3295 and Jat and Scott. I've to go though. You're going to have to clarify that one for me. Bad timing, it seems. it has to do with the numbers and 2164 dont bother figuring this one out, im probaly dead tonight do good without me marv damd scott imo Marv over JAT? Pfft. Just saying. Fuck yeah. Calix, you are a legend.
Let's win this game for Calix now.
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On October 13 2016 06:37 scott31337 wrote: Okay - time to look back into Calix's massive posting for clues - but probably all green checks with this voting pattern. lovely She had a red-check on Damdred.
We are voting JAT regardless. If you are town, follow me. Vote Jat.
Why Jat over Damdred?
Both are 100% scum. Jat is the mafia power wolf. He is the one who will go into 2v1 LyLo and convince a townie of voting anyone but him. If I don't get him lynched today, he will never be lynched because they're killing me tonight.
Plus, marv was green checked. If we want to be sure that he is not the godfather that appeared town to Calix's check, we have to lynch the other mafia. Damdred was red-checked, so we know he isn't GF. Could be framer, granted, but that's besides the point.
It's triple Lylo, the order in which we lynch the scum does not really matter except for Jat who I can see convincing noobs of not voting for him.
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On October 13 2016 06:37 scott31337 wrote: Okay - time to look back into Calix's massive posting for clues - but probably all green checks with this voting pattern. lovely
Of course that is all you had to say in 48 hours.
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On October 12 2016 07:21 Calix wrote: It's JAT/ Scott/ Damdred.
This speaks for itself, my dude. This speaks for itself, my dudes.
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On October 07 2016 21:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 21:25 Grackaroni wrote:On October 07 2016 21:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 07 2016 21:17 NeverUnlucky wrote: Mhhm, Palmar is town. Don't dare say my EoD vote was bad anymore.
Damdred/Scott/JAT/Marv -- 3 are mafia. Calix, is it safe to assume you dropped your sr on me? You did not follow-up your tunnel with what I have left you when you left, and your two arguments have been disproved. Her arguments were actually pretty good. You just have a lot of other things going for you. [...] I had Soctt/DDD/Marv/JAT/HF as scum D1. Note this for post-game credz. 3/5 for D1.
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On October 13 2016 08:26 Damdred wrote: well i'm not scum and i do not think calix had a red check on me, or else she would of put it at eon like agreed. More than likely just had a green check on marv. I am positive that Calix had a red-check on you. She did say it and soft-claimed it twice.
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She hard-claimed it to me in a code, and soft-claimed it twice for everyone.
You are mafia.
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On October 10 2016 06:46 Calix wrote: Cop should just try to get their red check lynched first and claim if it goes badly.
^^^much better idea. Soft-claim before pushing Damdred.
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On October 12 2016 07:06 Calix wrote: You forgot Damdred.
On October 12 2016 08:15 Calix wrote:I really like how you think you can throw shade on my confidence. You can't fabricate a narrative where you are not scum. I don't blame you. Not everyone can be a fiction writer
On October 12 2016 08:31 Calix wrote: Just to get this straight...you're claiming to be so sensitive that someone calling you 100% scum bothers you?
On October 12 2016 08:41 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 08:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 12 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote: Like you are acting as if you have a red check on me when you do not becuase it is impossible. Interesting that that is what you have in the back of your mind with Calix's push. Reminds me of an unknown someone in WOM. "You can't scum-read me. You don't even have a red check on me!" :')
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On October 13 2016 09:12 Damdred wrote: guess you will just lose the game when you get to me.
You are an idiot when the only claim that she fucking hard claimed was on marv, soft claims dont' mean jack shit when she had time to hard claim a check on marv before eon when she could of hard claimed all her checks. So quit being a moron and pushing what you can't know What are you even trying to do here? Like, she had a red-check on you, there is no way around it. She already flipped cop, so you I don't see why you're still trying to throw shade on her.
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On October 13 2016 16:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 09:16 NeverUnlucky wrote: She hard-claimed it to me in a code, and soft-claimed it twice for everyone.
You are mafia. Explain the code please. It's not a code if I explain it. All she said was that she was cop and she said so WHILE she was pushing Damdred. All you've to know.
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On October 13 2016 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 06:37 scott31337 wrote: Okay - time to look back into Calix's massive posting for clues - but probably all green checks with this voting pattern. lovely She had a red-check on Damdred. We are voting JAT regardless. If you are town, follow me. Vote Jat. Why Jat over Damdred? Both are 100% scum. Jat is the mafia power wolf. He is the one who will go into 2v1 LyLo and convince a townie of voting anyone but him. If I don't get him lynched today, he will never be lynched because they're killing me tonight. Plus, marv was green checked. If we want to be sure that he is not the godfather that appeared town to Calix's check, we have to lynch the other mafia. Damdred was red-checked, so we know he isn't GF. Could be framer, granted, but that's besides the point. It's triple Lylo, the order in which we lynch the scum does not really matter except for Jat who I can see convincing noobs of not voting for him. The order actually matters a lot in the sense that we absolutely need to lynch the player with the highest chance of being mafia. Because we cannot fail today. The only reason you want to lynch me is because you want to pat your ego for lynching the "power wolf". If people are so stupid for possibly townreading me then why did you take me out of your mafia list last night? Yeah. You only put me in again because marv was greenchecked and for some idiotic reason you are 100 % ignoring oats who hasn't done shit for days and days. I will tell you a secret: the reason people think I am towny is that I am town. You are literally saying we should lynch me for being towny compared to your other scumreads. That is the dumbest shit I had to read 2016 which actually means a lot since you posted almost 600 times in this thread. It actually makes a lot of sense to lynch you today. If we lynch Damdred then Scott, LyLo is Oats+Marv+You with only Oats being semi-confirmed town. Semi-afk Oats + AFK marv = low chances of success.
Marv/you is who we should lynch today. That's the coin flip that'll happen at LyLo anyways.
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On October 13 2016 20:11 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 09:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 06:46 Calix wrote: Cop should just try to get their red check lynched first and claim if it goes badly.
^^^much better idea. Soft-claim before pushing Damdred. this to me reads that there is no red-check otherwise she would have claimed to get him lynched. You can be mafia.
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On October 13 2016 21:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 20:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 09:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 06:46 Calix wrote: Cop should just try to get their red check lynched first and claim if it goes badly.
^^^much better idea. Soft-claim before pushing Damdred. this to me reads that there is no red-check otherwise she would have claimed to get him lynched. You can be mafia. Also lol @ you saying that you would have time to play yesterday when all you did was post "nice" at EoN showing that you clearly were online at that time but never posted.
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On October 13 2016 18:06 Oatsmaster wrote: I would also like to know this code thing. Its seems really cool.
##vote scott We cannot have our votes scattered.
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Red-checked Damdred voting Scott, lul.
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On October 13 2016 21:27 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 21:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:On October 13 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 06:37 scott31337 wrote: Okay - time to look back into Calix's massive posting for clues - but probably all green checks with this voting pattern. lovely She had a red-check on Damdred. We are voting JAT regardless. If you are town, follow me. Vote Jat. Why Jat over Damdred? Both are 100% scum. Jat is the mafia power wolf. He is the one who will go into 2v1 LyLo and convince a townie of voting anyone but him. If I don't get him lynched today, he will never be lynched because they're killing me tonight. Plus, marv was green checked. If we want to be sure that he is not the godfather that appeared town to Calix's check, we have to lynch the other mafia. Damdred was red-checked, so we know he isn't GF. Could be framer, granted, but that's besides the point. It's triple Lylo, the order in which we lynch the scum does not really matter except for Jat who I can see convincing noobs of not voting for him. The order actually matters a lot in the sense that we absolutely need to lynch the player with the highest chance of being mafia. Because we cannot fail today. The only reason you want to lynch me is because you want to pat your ego for lynching the "power wolf". If people are so stupid for possibly townreading me then why did you take me out of your mafia list last night? Yeah. You only put me in again because marv was greenchecked and for some idiotic reason you are 100 % ignoring oats who hasn't done shit for days and days. I will tell you a secret: the reason people think I am towny is that I am town. You are literally saying we should lynch me for being towny compared to your other scumreads. That is the dumbest shit I had to read 2016 which actually means a lot since you posted almost 600 times in this thread. It actually makes a lot of sense to lynch you today. If we lynch Damdred then Scott, LyLo is Oats+Marv+You with only Oats being semi-confirmed town. Semi-afk Oats + AFK marv = low chances of success. Marv/you is who we should lynch today. That's the coin flip that'll happen at LyLo anyways. How on earth is oats semi-confirmed town? Marv/me are literally the last people you should lynch today. I am town, he is green checked. This is record level terrible. There is one VT slot left to claim in my PoE pool. Marv being green-checked means he have 50% chance of being GF, 50% chance of being VT.
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" I will tell you a secret: the reason people think I am towny is that I am town."
Name those people. Red-checked Damdred does not count.
You can't. Every dead player but bats scum-read you.
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HF scum-read you for being bad. He said it.
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On October 13 2016 21:30 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 21:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 21:27 justanothertownie wrote:On October 13 2016 21:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:On October 13 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 06:37 scott31337 wrote: Okay - time to look back into Calix's massive posting for clues - but probably all green checks with this voting pattern. lovely She had a red-check on Damdred. We are voting JAT regardless. If you are town, follow me. Vote Jat. Why Jat over Damdred? Both are 100% scum. Jat is the mafia power wolf. He is the one who will go into 2v1 LyLo and convince a townie of voting anyone but him. If I don't get him lynched today, he will never be lynched because they're killing me tonight. Plus, marv was green checked. If we want to be sure that he is not the godfather that appeared town to Calix's check, we have to lynch the other mafia. Damdred was red-checked, so we know he isn't GF. Could be framer, granted, but that's besides the point. It's triple Lylo, the order in which we lynch the scum does not really matter except for Jat who I can see convincing noobs of not voting for him. The order actually matters a lot in the sense that we absolutely need to lynch the player with the highest chance of being mafia. Because we cannot fail today. The only reason you want to lynch me is because you want to pat your ego for lynching the "power wolf". If people are so stupid for possibly townreading me then why did you take me out of your mafia list last night? Yeah. You only put me in again because marv was greenchecked and for some idiotic reason you are 100 % ignoring oats who hasn't done shit for days and days. I will tell you a secret: the reason people think I am towny is that I am town. You are literally saying we should lynch me for being towny compared to your other scumreads. That is the dumbest shit I had to read 2016 which actually means a lot since you posted almost 600 times in this thread. It actually makes a lot of sense to lynch you today. If we lynch Damdred then Scott, LyLo is Oats+Marv+You with only Oats being semi-confirmed town. Semi-afk Oats + AFK marv = low chances of success. Marv/you is who we should lynch today. That's the coin flip that'll happen at LyLo anyways. How on earth is oats semi-confirmed town? Marv/me are literally the last people you should lynch today. I am town, he is green checked. This is record level terrible. There is one VT slot left to claim in my PoE pool. Marv being green-checked means he have 50% chance of being GF, 50% chance of being VT. Maybe. But your PoE pool is shit. There is 0 reason to consider oats as town. Try convincing me otherwise then.
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Mafia has no reason to kill someone who's in the PoE pool, lol. Koshi and I are the first and only ones to go no matter how bad our reads are.
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I don't think they can kill one of their own.
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Re-post of marv's reads.
On October 11 2016 20:14 marvellosity wrote: don't mind what Calix had to say about Damdred (read last 3 pages of Calix's filter + Damdred's filter).
Damdred could easily be mafia but I don't know how to say so with any confidence. I agree with Calix that Damdred's long defence post was quite poor.
On October 11 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 13:15 scott31337 wrote: Sorry I've really had a loss of time - friend needed a hand with some things - etc This week is fall break so work should be slow.
Grack dying instead of basically any body else makes me think my reads are crap.
I'll be tearing it up tomorrow. What's the rationale for this exactly? Also no tearing it up occurred. scott can easily be mafia because there's been no interesting thought whatsoever. I don't know how to call him mafia with any confidence, however. ^ This looks like a shy bus. Also worth noting that scott town-reads marv.
On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote: I would also like to point out that you need to read Palmar JAT Oats Scott
In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not. I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today.
tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town
i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter)
Marv + Scott + Damdred makes a lot of sense to me.
Adding that Marv has 1 scum-read alive with Palmar flipping town..
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batsnacks (5) - marvellosity, Damdred, Calix, Oatsmaster, NeverUnlucky Palmar (4) – Grackaroni, Holyflare, Koshi, Superbia Damdred (1) - batsnacks Superbia (1) - justanothertownie Holyflare (1) – Palmar
Palmar (2) - marvellosity, Koshi, Damdred (1) - Grackaroni justanothertownie (2) – Palmar, Oatsmaster marvellosity (1) - Superbia Superbia (4) - justanothertownie, Calix, NeverUnlucky, scott31337
Palmar (4) – Koshi, marvellosity, Damdred, justanothertownie Scott31337 (2) - Oatsmaster, Calix, Damdred, [blue]justanothertownie, marvellosity[blue] Damdred (1) -Calix , scott31337 marvellosity (2) - Palmar, NeverUnlucky
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There's actually a chance of scott being town if you don't look at his awful posts.
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Damdred who is 100% scum-reads his slot since D1 after Stutters made 4 posts. This could be due to the fact that Damdred knows he is scum, so he hedges his read though.
Scott has been voting Damdred since day 2 also. I didn't put his unvote in the vc, but he did vote damdred on d2 at one point. This would be a dual bus which is possible.
Keep in mind that that's if you don't consider scott's awful posts. He could be town.
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Dude, he doesn't even need to be red-checked to be 100% scum. Look at who pressured him: Bats-Lynched, Grack-Night killed, Calix-NightKilled, me- :D.
Only town pressured this guy. If you look at his defense vs me and Calix, you'll see that he is scum easily as well. His opportunistic votes are telling also.
Being red-checked is a plus. I won't explain the code, it's irrelevant. I've told you all you needed to know about it: she claimed cop to me while pushing for damdred.
Also, it's obvious that she had a red-check on him from the posts I quoted and from the fact that Calix town-read Damdred from d1 to d2 and started being suspicious of him once I filter-dove Damdred and showed y'all why he was obv. scum. She pushed him hard d3.
DDD is 100% scum, debating about him is waste of time.
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On October 13 2016 22:40 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 22:35 NeverUnlucky wrote: Dude, he doesn't even need to be red-checked to be 100% scum. Look at who pressured him: Bats-Lynched, Grack-Night killed, Calix-NightKilled, me- :D.
Only town pressured this guy. If you look at his defense vs me and Calix, you'll see that he is scum easily as well. His opportunistic votes are telling also.
Being red-checked is a plus. I won't explain the code, it's irrelevant. I've told you all you needed to know about it: she claimed cop to me while pushing for damdred.
Also, it's obvious that she had a red-check on him from the posts I quoted and from the fact that Calix town-read Damdred from d1 to d2 and started being suspicious of him once I filter-dove Damdred and showed y'all why he was obv. scum. She pushed him hard d3.
DDD is 100% scum, debating about him is waste of time. Explaining the code is very relevant. I would expect calix to claim a redcheck without any ambiguity. Especially since he did this for her greencheck too. The likelihood that damdred is mafia is very high in general - that is true. But from calix' posting I do not see how it has to be a red check instead of a very strong scumread. Then she did not meet your expectations.
Dude, I have no reason as town to come up with a fake red-check of someone who died. You don't scum-read me, so I don't know why you are doubting me.
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On October 13 2016 22:47 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 22:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 22:40 justanothertownie wrote:On October 13 2016 22:35 NeverUnlucky wrote: Dude, he doesn't even need to be red-checked to be 100% scum. Look at who pressured him: Bats-Lynched, Grack-Night killed, Calix-NightKilled, me- :D.
Only town pressured this guy. If you look at his defense vs me and Calix, you'll see that he is scum easily as well. His opportunistic votes are telling also.
Being red-checked is a plus. I won't explain the code, it's irrelevant. I've told you all you needed to know about it: she claimed cop to me while pushing for damdred.
Also, it's obvious that she had a red-check on him from the posts I quoted and from the fact that Calix town-read Damdred from d1 to d2 and started being suspicious of him once I filter-dove Damdred and showed y'all why he was obv. scum. She pushed him hard d3.
DDD is 100% scum, debating about him is waste of time. Explaining the code is very relevant. I would expect calix to claim a redcheck without any ambiguity. Especially since he did this for her greencheck too. The likelihood that damdred is mafia is very high in general - that is true. But from calix' posting I do not see how it has to be a red check instead of a very strong scumread. Then she did not meet your expectations. Dude, I have no reason as town to come up with a fake red-check of someone who died. You don't scum-read me, so I don't know why you are doubting me. I am not doubting your alignment/that you think you are telling the truth. I am doubting your interpretation of her posts. I restate. The code linked to a cop claim. There's no room for misinterpretation there.
She claimed this while pushing Damdred. When I said Jat and scott are 100% scum, she replied with: "You forgot Damdred."
Like, there's plenty of hints showing that she had a red-check. A red-check on Damdred or not does not change the fact that he is 100% scum anyways.
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Good, because I am sure about it.
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But...
Why would you want to lynch someone who 10000000% flips mafia and can be lynched at anytime when lynching him NOW means losing a townie during the night? It does not seem like a good trade. We are just reporting the real game deciding lynch until later whilst losing a vt.
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On October 13 2016 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:02 NeverUnlucky wrote: But...
Why would you want to lynch someone who 10000000% flips mafia and can be lynched at anytime when lynching him NOW means losing a townie during the night? It does not seem like a good trade. We are just reporting the real game deciding lynch until later whilst losing a vt. Because if we are wrong today we lose?! How stupid would that be? We get a mafia flip and can work with confirmed information from his flip and the nightkill to figure out his teammates. Seems much better to me than yoloing on someone we are far less sure on therefore taking the risk of straight up losing. Eh, you did not understand my point. Too bad.
Lynch Damdred.
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On October 13 2016 23:11 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 22:03 NeverUnlucky wrote:Re-post of marv's reads. On October 11 2016 20:14 marvellosity wrote: don't mind what Calix had to say about Damdred (read last 3 pages of Calix's filter + Damdred's filter).
Damdred could easily be mafia but I don't know how to say so with any confidence. I agree with Calix that Damdred's long defence post was quite poor. On October 11 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:On October 10 2016 13:15 scott31337 wrote: Sorry I've really had a loss of time - friend needed a hand with some things - etc This week is fall break so work should be slow.
Grack dying instead of basically any body else makes me think my reads are crap.
I'll be tearing it up tomorrow. What's the rationale for this exactly? Also no tearing it up occurred. scott can easily be mafia because there's been no interesting thought whatsoever. I don't know how to call him mafia with any confidence, however. ^ This looks like a shy bus. Also worth noting that scott town-reads marv. On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote: I would also like to point out that you need to read Palmar JAT Oats Scott
In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not. I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today.
tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town
i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter) Marv + Scott + Damdred makes a lot of sense to me.
Adding that Marv has 1 scum-read alive with Palmar flipping town.. i was townreading Palmar So... you only had one scum-read (scott) and did not even lynch him when you had the opportunity to????????????????????
You can be mafia.
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Why am I not surprised that marv and Damdred log on at the same time?
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On October 13 2016 23:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 22:03 NeverUnlucky wrote:Re-post of marv's reads. On October 11 2016 20:14 marvellosity wrote: don't mind what Calix had to say about Damdred (read last 3 pages of Calix's filter + Damdred's filter).
Damdred could easily be mafia but I don't know how to say so with any confidence. I agree with Calix that Damdred's long defence post was quite poor. On October 11 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:On October 10 2016 13:15 scott31337 wrote: Sorry I've really had a loss of time - friend needed a hand with some things - etc This week is fall break so work should be slow.
Grack dying instead of basically any body else makes me think my reads are crap.
I'll be tearing it up tomorrow. What's the rationale for this exactly? Also no tearing it up occurred. scott can easily be mafia because there's been no interesting thought whatsoever. I don't know how to call him mafia with any confidence, however. ^ This looks like a shy bus. Also worth noting that scott town-reads marv. On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote: I would also like to point out that you need to read Palmar JAT Oats Scott
In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not. I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today.
tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town
i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter) Marv + Scott + Damdred makes a lot of sense to me.
Adding that Marv has 1 scum-read alive with Palmar flipping town.. i was townreading Palmar So... you only had one scum-read (scott) and did not even lynch him when you had the opportunity to???????????????????? You can be mafia. you can be mafia too don't really get your point You lynched Palmar whom you town-read while not voting for scott whom you scum-read. Not hard to understand.
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Lol @ both DDD and Marv calling me mafia. They're mafia together, ez.
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On October 13 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:13 NeverUnlucky wrote: Why am I not surprised that marv and Damdred log on at the same time? because mafia buddies log on together. ...... Well done.On October 13 2016 23:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 23:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 22:03 NeverUnlucky wrote:Re-post of marv's reads. On October 11 2016 20:14 marvellosity wrote: don't mind what Calix had to say about Damdred (read last 3 pages of Calix's filter + Damdred's filter).
Damdred could easily be mafia but I don't know how to say so with any confidence. I agree with Calix that Damdred's long defence post was quite poor. On October 11 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:On October 10 2016 13:15 scott31337 wrote: Sorry I've really had a loss of time - friend needed a hand with some things - etc This week is fall break so work should be slow.
Grack dying instead of basically any body else makes me think my reads are crap.
I'll be tearing it up tomorrow. What's the rationale for this exactly? Also no tearing it up occurred. scott can easily be mafia because there's been no interesting thought whatsoever. I don't know how to call him mafia with any confidence, however. ^ This looks like a shy bus. Also worth noting that scott town-reads marv. On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote: I would also like to point out that you need to read Palmar JAT Oats Scott
In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not. I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today.
tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town
i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter) Marv + Scott + Damdred makes a lot of sense to me.
Adding that Marv has 1 scum-read alive with Palmar flipping town.. i was townreading Palmar So... you only had one scum-read (scott) and did not even lynch him when you had the opportunity to???????????????????? You can be mafia. you can be mafia too don't really get your point You lynched Palmar whom you town-read while not voting for scott whom you scum-read. Not hard to understand. have you played mafia before? Yes, and you never vote your TOWN-READ over your ONLY scum-read. Niiiice deflection, Godfather.
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On October 13 2016 23:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 20:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 09:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 06:46 Calix wrote: Cop should just try to get their red check lynched first and claim if it goes badly.
^^^much better idea. Soft-claim before pushing Damdred. this to me reads that there is no red-check otherwise she would have claimed to get him lynched. nu, please explain to me why Calix would say: "cop should claim to get their red-check lynched" and not claim her red check to get damdred lynched? It's irrelevant be she never said that, rofl.
She said cop should push their red-check and claim if it goes wrong. It went wrong, and she claimed to me she had a red-check on Damdred.
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On October 13 2016 23:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 23:13 NeverUnlucky wrote: Why am I not surprised that marv and Damdred log on at the same time? because mafia buddies log on together. ...... Well done. On October 13 2016 23:15 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 23:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 23:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 22:03 NeverUnlucky wrote:Re-post of marv's reads. On October 11 2016 20:14 marvellosity wrote: don't mind what Calix had to say about Damdred (read last 3 pages of Calix's filter + Damdred's filter).
Damdred could easily be mafia but I don't know how to say so with any confidence. I agree with Calix that Damdred's long defence post was quite poor. On October 11 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:On October 10 2016 13:15 scott31337 wrote: Sorry I've really had a loss of time - friend needed a hand with some things - etc This week is fall break so work should be slow.
Grack dying instead of basically any body else makes me think my reads are crap.
I'll be tearing it up tomorrow. What's the rationale for this exactly? Also no tearing it up occurred. scott can easily be mafia because there's been no interesting thought whatsoever. I don't know how to call him mafia with any confidence, however. ^ This looks like a shy bus. Also worth noting that scott town-reads marv. On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote: I would also like to point out that you need to read Palmar JAT Oats Scott
In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not. I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today.
tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town
i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter) Marv + Scott + Damdred makes a lot of sense to me.
Adding that Marv has 1 scum-read alive with Palmar flipping town.. i was townreading Palmar So... you only had one scum-read (scott) and did not even lynch him when you had the opportunity to???????????????????? You can be mafia. you can be mafia too don't really get your point You lynched Palmar whom you town-read while not voting for scott whom you scum-read. Not hard to understand. have you played mafia before? Yes, and you never vote your TOWN-READ over your ONLY scum-read. Niiiice deflection, Godfather. TOWNIES DO THIS 1000X MORE THAN MAFIA DO BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW IT LOOKS REALLY TERRIBLE THIS IS MAFIA 101 LITTLE ONE Still deflecting. Why would you vote your town-read over your ONLY scum-read when your vote decided who was getting lynched that day?
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I've yet to see any argument/point making Damdred a possible town.
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On October 13 2016 23:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:19 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:16 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 20:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 09:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 06:46 Calix wrote: Cop should just try to get their red check lynched first and claim if it goes badly.
^^^much better idea. Soft-claim before pushing Damdred. this to me reads that there is no red-check otherwise she would have claimed to get him lynched. nu, please explain to me why Calix would say: "cop should claim to get their red-check lynched" and not claim her red check to get damdred lynched? It's irrelevant be she never said that, rofl. She said cop should push their red-check and claim if it goes wrong. It went wrong, and she claimed to me she had a red-check on Damdred. she said that in the fucking nested quote you moron Except she didn't.
"Cop should just try to get their red check lynched first and claim if it goes badly."
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On October 13 2016 23:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 23:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 23:13 NeverUnlucky wrote: Why am I not surprised that marv and Damdred log on at the same time? because mafia buddies log on together. ...... Well done. On October 13 2016 23:15 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 23:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 23:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 13 2016 23:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 13 2016 22:03 NeverUnlucky wrote: Re-post of marv's reads.
[quote] [quote] ^ This looks like a shy bus. Also worth noting that scott town-reads marv. [quote]
Marv + Scott + Damdred makes a lot of sense to me.
Adding that Marv has 1 scum-read alive with Palmar flipping town..
i was townreading Palmar So... you only had one scum-read (scott) and did not even lynch him when you had the opportunity to???????????????????? You can be mafia. you can be mafia too don't really get your point You lynched Palmar whom you town-read while not voting for scott whom you scum-read. Not hard to understand. have you played mafia before? Yes, and you never vote your TOWN-READ over your ONLY scum-read. Niiiice deflection, Godfather. TOWNIES DO THIS 1000X MORE THAN MAFIA DO BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW IT LOOKS REALLY TERRIBLE THIS IS MAFIA 101 LITTLE ONE Still deflecting. Why would you vote your town-read over your ONLY scum-read when your vote decided who was getting lynched that day? how is it deflecting? i am literally explaining to you that i did something that basically only townies do because mafia knows it looks terrible. it is literally 100% relevant to the point at hand. i voted palmar because #bigplays, because i haven't read anywhere between 25-50% of the game, because koshi was bringing up what looked like really legit points at the time (from stuff I had no context for) It's deflecting because you'd rather insult me than answer the question.
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On October 13 2016 23:23 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:20 marvellosity wrote: ##vote damdred
whatever. we have to vote together anyway. Man I am town marv, you doing this totally is dumb as jat and nu can be scum in this situation. Scott will hammer etc etc First time you say you are town. Give me evidence to support your claim.
I am not scum.
Come up with a better scum team.
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On October 13 2016 23:29 Damdred wrote: If you aren't scum nu then you are pushing scum agenda to the max and have been for days. So be it.
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On October 12 2016 08:20 Damdred wrote: Thats the thing though theres like five people who have reasons to be scum to me.
Marv JAT Scott Oats Calix
I think if JAT is scum than Oats is most likely not scum so I scratch him out, scratch scott and JAT out as they are my most likely pair
That leaves me with Marv and Calix. One of them shoudl be the cop I think which makes the other one the scum. Unless oats is the cop but I doubt that sorta. Jat, Scott, Marv. I kinda like it.
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On October 12 2016 08:24 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 08:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 12 2016 08:18 NeverUnlucky wrote: Seriously, dude, you're in the PoE pool. If you're town you know 100% who is the scum unless you can prove to me why Koshi would be scum. Thats just dumb because even if i discount oats I have two people I think coudl be scum in the third position. Calix is just acting to sure of herself at this point to be town unless shes cop with a red check with me. We are in triple lylo you can't go into that with your thoughts set in stone. Its dumb and loses you the game. LOL
He knew she had a red-check on him.
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On October 12 2016 08:25 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 08:23 NeverUnlucky wrote: Anything that has Calix and Oats as scum I won't read. If you want more bants, you should check out 2164 again :') "I am a sheriff. Night one: BananaCucho (Town) // Night two: Firebringer (Town)"
Is what 2164 links to. I don't think I misinterpreted the code, but if you think I have, say so.
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The checks are probably irrelevant. She likely green-checked marv N1 because she never had him in her scum pool and told me to trust him if she were to die. N2 she must've checked you and came with a red-check.
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The code implies that she was cop. The checks are probably irrelevant.
I don't know why she would have claimed cop to me if it wasn't for a red-check she had.
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I want you to walk me through your thought process when switching your vote from Scott to Palmar yesterday.
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Because I actually very much like the scumteam you propose.
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On October 14 2016 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 00:14 NeverUnlucky wrote: Because I actually very much like the scumteam you propose. That's because you are notoriously bad. Right.
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Yes, I considered that, Koshi. I am still puzzled as to why she would have claimed cop to me while pushing Damdred.
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On October 11 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 07:18 Calix wrote: So you are voting JAT based on pre-flip associations?
Wow. yes I know not everyone is this good. throw me a bone here guys. One of you mention wanting to kill marv who: a) voted a terrible lynch on day 1, where BOTH ME AND HF noticed bats saying shit that didn't sound like mafia. We both said so. Marv is even better than us two at this tonal townie thing, and he flat out ignored it. b) he voted me on day 2, then became less convinced I was mafia because I don't sound like damn mafia because I'm not one, but instead of doing anything, he just... went afk c) killed hf, which is the obvious marv kill when hf suspected him and everyone thought hf was town. Someone please, put votes on him. I'm moving my vote to marv, and I'm going to see what happens.
On October 11 2016 07:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 07:19 justanothertownie wrote: You seriously don't see how I would be hesitant to lynch him after what happened last game? You seriously think I would defend marv instead of just straight up bussing him when he just completely bails out? well show me. He is 100% mafia this game, so all you have to do is go vote him. There is no universe where this is town marv.
On October 11 2016 07:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 07:39 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:36 Calix wrote: Okay Palmar, let us know when you have some A* contributions instead of trying to lynch an AFK player over yourself, using terrible reasoning everywhere and some whining about how bad everyone else is. This here people is why we'll lose. Remember in the post game, how stupid this post is. ok bye. What about it is stupid? The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me. Nothing on anyone else. you know how I feel about everyone else and I'm behind on the game. NU can't concoct all this stupidity as scum so he's town Calix is unnaturally bad, but still, sounded kinda sincere at points so town Koshi, scott and damdred can fall either way. Koshi sounds slightly mafia and scott, maybe. Damdred sounds slightly town marv is scum.
On October 09 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote: Superbia is gonna flip town.
Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred
On October 10 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote: I don't even care about my cred anymore. If I'm fucking wrong I'll just accept it. I keep hedging (Iike calling superbia not the worst lynch out of spite for his lack of effort last night, I then turned around and said he was town, of course).
Calix is 100% town NU is 100% town Oats is 100% town
Grack is 80% town
Damdred is 50% town Koshi is 50% town Scott is 40% town
Jag is 5% town Marv is 0% town
two free mafia. gg wp
On October 10 2016 02:02 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 02:01 Grackaroni wrote: I pretty much have to conclude that JAT is mafia at this point. and marv
On October 11 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote: And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town? You said the same thing about superbia I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive. I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv.
On October 11 2016 06:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2016 04:40 justanothertownie wrote: Palmar just told you "I will not care about this lynch at all and vote this guy who is definitely mafia even though I never justified why and never will while there is this other guy who I have actual reasons to scumread". Palmar is not this shit as town. Lol
Palmar proposed the same scum-team as Damdred. And Palmar isn’t bad.
Jat’s proposed scum-team has Oats in it who is very likely town.
Marv has 1 scum-read and it’s not the one he is voting. He’s living off of a green-check.
Koshi and Oats are town. I am town. This train on Damdred contains at least one scum in it regardless of if they are bussing or pushing for their final ML.
I think Jat is scum everytime for, as Palmar said, being so blind and not noticing that bats, superbia, Oats and Palmar were tonally obvious town. If he was not scum, he would be suspecting marv. But he is not. Either he is scum and marv is town or they are both scum.
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On October 14 2016 02:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 11 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:18 Calix wrote: So you are voting JAT based on pre-flip associations?
Wow. yes I know not everyone is this good. throw me a bone here guys. One of you mention wanting to kill marv who: a) voted a terrible lynch on day 1, where BOTH ME AND HF noticed bats saying shit that didn't sound like mafia. We both said so. Marv is even better than us two at this tonal townie thing, and he flat out ignored it. b) he voted me on day 2, then became less convinced I was mafia because I don't sound like damn mafia because I'm not one, but instead of doing anything, he just... went afk c) killed hf, which is the obvious marv kill when hf suspected him and everyone thought hf was town. Someone please, put votes on him. I'm moving my vote to marv, and I'm going to see what happens. On October 11 2016 07:23 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:19 justanothertownie wrote: You seriously don't see how I would be hesitant to lynch him after what happened last game? You seriously think I would defend marv instead of just straight up bussing him when he just completely bails out? well show me. He is 100% mafia this game, so all you have to do is go vote him. There is no universe where this is town marv. On October 11 2016 07:44 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 07:39 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:36 Calix wrote: Okay Palmar, let us know when you have some A* contributions instead of trying to lynch an AFK player over yourself, using terrible reasoning everywhere and some whining about how bad everyone else is. This here people is why we'll lose. Remember in the post game, how stupid this post is. ok bye. What about it is stupid? The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me. Nothing on anyone else. you know how I feel about everyone else and I'm behind on the game. NU can't concoct all this stupidity as scum so he's town Calix is unnaturally bad, but still, sounded kinda sincere at points so town Koshi, scott and damdred can fall either way. Koshi sounds slightly mafia and scott, maybe. Damdred sounds slightly town marv is scum. On October 09 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote: Superbia is gonna flip town.
Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred On October 10 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote: I don't even care about my cred anymore. If I'm fucking wrong I'll just accept it. I keep hedging (Iike calling superbia not the worst lynch out of spite for his lack of effort last night, I then turned around and said he was town, of course).
Calix is 100% town NU is 100% town Oats is 100% town
Grack is 80% town
Damdred is 50% town Koshi is 50% town Scott is 40% town
Jag is 5% town Marv is 0% town
two free mafia. gg wp On October 10 2016 02:02 Palmar wrote:On October 10 2016 02:01 Grackaroni wrote: I pretty much have to conclude that JAT is mafia at this point. and marv On October 11 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote: And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town? You said the same thing about superbia I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive. I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv. On October 11 2016 06:23 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 04:40 justanothertownie wrote: Palmar just told you "I will not care about this lynch at all and vote this guy who is definitely mafia even though I never justified why and never will while there is this other guy who I have actual reasons to scumread". Palmar is not this shit as town. Lol Palmar proposed the same scum-team as Damdred. And Palmar isn’t bad. Jat’s proposed scum-team has Oats in it who is very likely town. Marv has 1 scum-read and it’s not the one he is voting. He’s living off of a green-check. Koshi and Oats are town. I am town. This train on Damdred contains at least one scum in it regardless of if they are bussing or pushing for their final ML. I think Jat is scum everytime for, as Palmar said, being so blind and not noticing that bats, superbia, Oats and Palmar were tonally obvious town. If he was not scum, he would be suspecting marv. But he is not. Either he is scum and marv is town or they are both scum. Ok, I've had enough of this shit. Why the fuck is oats town? Explain it to me. I am mafia for not noticing bats is town? I WAS NOT AROUND. For superbia? He played like shit/his mafia meta demonstrably. You even liked my case. Oats isn't town. Palmar was not obvious town. And marv was willing to lynch him which is usually a good argument for killing him. He has a town tone and there is no evidence of him being mafia. You've had 92 hours to make a case on him since you scum-read him and have not yet done so.
Palmar was obvious town. Marv did not even scum-read Palmar when he voted for him, so that is invalid.
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On October 14 2016 02:57 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:56 Damdred wrote: I hit enter a bit early as usual.
And I understand that you have to vote with town but the angle nu was pushing is not good. And it seems like he is even not quite believing a red check now maybe?
In either case I do understand that, but take a look from my view point. What's more likely (if you know that you are town) are scum more likely to pile on when a town is wrong or vote on a scum buddy. your viewpoint is scum's viewpoint though lol
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No, Damd, I still think you've been red-checked.
There's no evidence for you to be town: your defense vs me and Cal was very poor, your votes were bad, and you bread crumbed that you had been red-checked.
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On October 14 2016 03:01 marvellosity wrote: i also don't think (from a personal point of view) that you would even come close to think i am mafia right now due to
1. how easily you townread me at the beginning of the game 2. the fact that after i went afk i came back and have been playing (i don't do this as mafia) 3. due to 1&2, you should be townreading me for the same reasons 4. you also know that yolo lynching Palmar is so far away from my style as mafia 5. this dichotomy you've been pushing that one or the other of Palmar and me is mafia isn't logical.
none of these are convincing to anyone else particularly, but there we go Can someone confirm 2 and 3?
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On October 14 2016 03:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:05 NeverUnlucky wrote: No, Damd, I still think you've been red-checked.
There's no evidence for you to be town: your defense vs me and Cal was very poor, your votes were bad, and you bread crumbed that you had been red-checked. did i miss something? [QUOTE]On October 13 2016 23:51 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On October 12 2016 08:24 Damdred wrote: [QUOTE]On October 12 2016 08:23 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On October 12 2016 08:18 NeverUnlucky wrote: Seriously, dude, you're in the PoE pool. If you're town you know 100% who is the scum unless you can prove to me why Koshi would be scum. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
Thats just dumb because even if i discount oats I have two people I think coudl be scum in the third position. Calix is just acting to sure of herself at this point to be town unless shes cop with a red check with me. We are in triple lylo you can't go into that with your thoughts set in stone.
Its dumb and loses you the game.[/QUOTE]
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On October 14 2016 03:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:05 NeverUnlucky wrote: No, Damd, I still think you've been red-checked.
There's no evidence for you to be town: your defense vs me and Cal was very poor, your votes were bad, and you bread crumbed that you had been red-checked. did i miss something? On October 12 2016 08:24 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 08:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 12 2016 08:18 NeverUnlucky wrote: Seriously, dude, you're in the PoE pool. If you're town you know 100% who is the scum unless you can prove to me why Koshi would be scum. Thats just dumb because even if i discount oats I have two people I think coudl be scum in the third position. Calix is just acting to sure of herself at this point to be town unless shes cop with a red check with me. We are in triple lylo you can't go into that with your thoughts set in stone. Its dumb and loses you the game.
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On October 14 2016 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:05 NeverUnlucky wrote: No, Damd, I still think you've been red-checked.
There's no evidence for you to be town: your defense vs me and Cal was very poor, your votes were bad, and you bread crumbed that you had been red-checked. He "crumbed" the check? Where is the mafia motivation here. I meant slip, mb.
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On October 14 2016 03:19 Damdred wrote: So here's the question could koshi or nu be playing the most awesome game as scum so far? I wish :/
If I had rolled scum I'd have been lynched day 1 like usual. Calix would assure you all that I am 100% town, but she ded.
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On October 14 2016 03:21 marvellosity wrote: certainly 1 person (at least) is playing a very excellent scumgame. kinda hoping we manage to lynch the other 2 and then 3 way lylo is like a whole different game (if town play it right) That person is Jat.
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On October 14 2016 03:22 marvellosity wrote: in all seriousness - why did Grackaroni die?
personally as mafia (in my first 2 years of playing when i was actually amazing at scum) i would sometimes kill unexpected targets so that later in the game it would be less surprising that i was alive. i'd say there's a good chance that's the case here (not that you didn't deserve to be nk or anything Grack <3) Calix and I made plenty of theories on this matter. I now think that the most probable reason right now is because he was suspicious of Damdred and Jat.
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Could the D3, N3 and D4 links be added to the OP as well as the new flips?
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On October 14 2016 03:30 Damdred wrote: In any case if that happens and you and nu are town which I'm leaning more towards now the game,is,over anyway.
And we know Scott will vote me today anyway so just takes one to kill me anyway unless the scum team is nu, jat, Scott. Which I kinda doubt NU + Jat as a scum team? Are we reading the same game?
I doubt that the Koshi is mafia even though he said that marv and Palmar were 99.5% scum and diverted the lynch of scott with a ml.
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On October 12 2016 05:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2016 05:51 marvellosity wrote:On October 12 2016 05:49 Koshi wrote:On October 12 2016 05:45 Calix wrote: Because his whining sounded townie? lol. No words. Just no words. Palmar actually knows how the game works. He actually can post thoughts on why people are mafia. Palmar scumread JAT the entire game. Give me 1 reason why he thought JAT was mafia. Palmar can influence a lynch by posting. He posted this game, he didn't influence shit. Palmar was the full town counterwagon to mafia filled town lynch. ^ one of the reasons i'm not confident? i really dislike being wrong and i especially would dislike being wrong about palmar so i'm hedging like fuck because i'm not sure. HE IS 100% MAFIA. I said 99,5% but I meant 100%.
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On October 12 2016 06:18 Calix wrote: It's impossible for there to be a world where Koshi/ NU are both town and town!JAT and town!Damdred switched away from town!Scott to lynch town!Palmar with THREE FUCKING MINUTES TO SPARE. jat jat jat jat jat
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On October 12 2016 07:21 Calix wrote: It's JAT/ Scott/ Damdred.
This speaks for itself, my dude.
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On October 14 2016 03:41 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 12 2016 06:18 Calix wrote: It's impossible for there to be a world where Koshi/ NU are both town and town!JAT and town!Damdred switched away from town!Scott to lynch town!Palmar with THREE FUCKING MINUTES TO SPARE. jat jat jat jat jat It is getting boring. This post paints a scenario where scott is town AND damdred is town. Which is more or less impossible and which she did not believe in. At least 2 shenanny guys were town per default. Probably 3 in reality. So this isn't actually a point. You don't get irony, do you?
She called you, Damdred and Scott SCUM. The town! was sarcasm.
I promise y'all that jat's scum.
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Can we seriously lynch Jat? I'm liking marv's tone and think we've the 4 townies in oats, koshi, marv and me.
Jat is never town in this game. NEVER.
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On October 14 2016 03:43 Damdred wrote: While I appreciate calix and her thoughts I don't think we should follow them 100% or we will lose.
In any regard what is the point of mafia!JAT taking suspicion off town!Marv like he did with the defense he made of,him?
Make naive people think he's town/pocket marv.
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On October 14 2016 03:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 14 2016 03:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 03:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 12 2016 06:18 Calix wrote: It's impossible for there to be a world where Koshi/ NU are both town and town!JAT and town!Damdred switched away from town!Scott to lynch town!Palmar with THREE FUCKING MINUTES TO SPARE. jat jat jat jat jat It is getting boring. This post paints a scenario where scott is town AND damdred is town. Which is more or less impossible and which she did not believe in. At least 2 shenanny guys were town per default. Probably 3 in reality. So this isn't actually a point. You don't get irony, do you? She called you, Damdred and Scott SCUM. The town! was sarcasm. I promise y'all that jat's scum. Yes, I know that it is sarcasm. But read the entire post please. If scott is mafia then 2 people doing shenannigans are town at the very minimum. Which means saying anyone is automatically mafia for it is plain bullshit. In fact the most likely case is that whoever is the mafia between damdred and koshi joined while oats sat on his buddy scott. Yes, marv and Koshi are your "2 people".
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On October 14 2016 03:46 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:43 Damdred wrote: While I appreciate calix and her thoughts I don't think we should follow them 100% or we will lose.
In any regard what is the point of mafia!JAT taking suspicion off town!Marv like he did with the defense he made of,him?
The thing is that calix was almost certainly killed because she was the cop and in retrospect I have to say it was quite obvious with the way she treated marv while noone else was townreading him. I'm not questioning that... but how does it relate to the post you replied to?
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On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote: While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda.
I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum.
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On October 14 2016 03:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote: While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum. Well, there a first time for everything. And considering your play I seriously doubt that this is true anyways unless the level of play on the site you are coming from is absolutely abysmal. You will flip scum.
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On October 14 2016 04:02 Damdred wrote: And honestly pocketing marv doesn't work that well especially going into 2 v 1. Question: Who do you think is the scum-team now?
With your recent posts, it looks like you're trying to sell me that you, marv, jat, and I are the town while Koshi, Oats, and Scott are the scum.
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Yes, jat was set to be lynched day 2 at first.
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I'm here for a couple of minutes before going AWOL again. I propose we lynch Jat because his chances of flipping scum are 100%. Scott can wait.
I need Koshi and marv to be online though. You guys here?
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On October 15 2016 01:40 scott31337 wrote: I've lost all interest this game. I tried to come in as a replacement and get some traction - but after ml after ml and the cop never getting anywhere I've lost interest. I've been in crappy LYLO's before as well though and never felt this way.
I'll drop a vote and take my ban, I need a break from mafia anyway. Sorry town it's partially my fault. >Has 4 votes. >Comes online. >Does not defend himself. >Blames the cop and the town for the MLs while being AWOL and making town's job to lynch scum extremely difficult. >Drops a random vote. >Makes an unsincere and empty apology. >Leaves.
If you are town and the scum team is marv/Jat/Damdred the loss is 100% your fault for not even remotely trying to defend yourself.
I would be absolutely disgusted if you flipped town. Absolutely disgusted.
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On October 15 2016 02:13 justanothertownie wrote: If you are town, put your vote one me and go AWOL we will lose today. I would have, but I won't for a reason I won't tell you and because Scott is being an absolute shitter who needs to die and be shunned.
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On October 15 2016 05:56 justanothertownie wrote: wow, marv. wow.
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On October 15 2016 06:03 Holyflare wrote: Boring. I am ashamed.
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On October 15 2016 06:04 justanothertownie wrote: I might have said some mean stuff about you in the mafia qt, nu. Don't take it to heart too much - I am a grumpy asshole when I am mafia. At least you care about the game.
Calix was very impressive. I expect the obs chat to be the same in regards to me. I played bad once again.
What I said about calling someone "obvious X" stands true though. c:
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GG Koshi and GG Jat. I can only respect your plays. Well played.
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On October 15 2016 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2016 06:07 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 15 2016 06:04 justanothertownie wrote: I might have said some mean stuff about you in the mafia qt, nu. Don't take it to heart too much - I am a grumpy asshole when I am mafia. At least you care about the game.
Calix was very impressive. I expect the obs chat to be the same in regards to me. I played bad once again. What I said about calling someone "obvious X" stands true though. c: You literally berated calix after the palmar lynch which she had no part in by bragging about your mafia pools that had every single townie in it. Yes. I did do that.
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On October 15 2016 06:09 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2016 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:On October 15 2016 06:03 Holyflare wrote: Boring. On September 24 2016 19:41 Holyflare wrote: This will be a game where either good people roll mafia and lose or bad people roll mafia and lose. Pretty hard when 50% of the game afk. I agree. Still well played i guess. Mhhm. Really frustrating to play in a game like that. No substance to town-read or scum-read half the players.
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On October 15 2016 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2016 06:10 Shapelog wrote: Yeah good scum play. Oats was Lock town till we know in Obs he was scum lol.
GG I will never understand how ANYONE could have oats as lock town this game. I couldn't even tell you.
I scum-read him D1 for being outrageously defensive at a vote, but then I dropped that read for a reason I don't remember.
His D3 vote on Scott before going AWOL was pretty bad. I'm biting my thumb for not calling him out on it.
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