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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:34 GMT
#508
I really do like how dismissive the two people I'm pushing are being, lol.

I'm being incredibly tame and polite here but you'd think that I called them a bunch of twats from how they're reacting.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:37 GMT
#513
On October 05 2016 04:31 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:17 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out.


I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me.

Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz.

your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice.



If that's the case, why haven't you tried harder to push the few points that you do have? You just dropped some fantastical theories including gems such as NU and myself hard-core distancing ourselves. You show zero conviction in what you say which strikes me as un-town-like.

On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote:
Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.

I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.

Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.

I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were.

The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you



Explain how being defensive is a scum tell.

I explicitly stated that I was inquiring about the quotes you were using as I was aware that you were referring to HF. You couldn't have missed that as I made that comment right after NU pointed this out.

Listen, unless someone else is getting anything useful out of this dumb shit fight I'm just going to ignore you because I feel like I'm wasting my time. I didn't say you did anything scummy I don't think you're Mafia, I said your similarly dumb argument with NU is NAI. That your exchange with NU seemed null vs town to me, I don't think it is outrageous for me to think this as any alignment.

Your case on me is fine, I'll take harder stances on stuff if stuff comes up, if not I can live with you being right about me for now.


Case in point. I'm not throwing shit at you. I'm raising legitimate points which you yourself admit have validity.

'I don't think it's outrageous for me to think this as any alignment' - This is an incredibly weird line. Call me crazy but it reads to me like you're low-key admitting to making that post because you think it's a 'townie' view to have, not because you actually believe it. Not a strong point but it sits oddly with me anyhow.

I'll look forward to you doing more 'productive' things in the meantime, my dear.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:38 GMT
#515
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.


Why would you give a fuck about being called 'too defensive'? It's a stupid fucking argument and even if it was valid, it doesn't stop you from posting your thoughts.

Cop-out excuse detected.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#520
On October 05 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:38 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.


Why would you give a fuck about being called 'too defensive'? It's a stupid fucking argument and even if it was valid, it doesn't stop you from posting your thoughts.

Cop-out excuse detected.


It's why I want to be on the sidelines z. I hate fucking having to defend (or explain) myself.

Just listen to me and win the game.


>joins a game that revolves around discussion
>expects to coast by without having to elaborate on his thoughts

Legit.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:44 GMT
#524
On October 05 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote:
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On October 05 2016 04:41 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:38 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.


Why would you give a fuck about being called 'too defensive'? It's a stupid fucking argument and even if it was valid, it doesn't stop you from posting your thoughts.

Cop-out excuse detected.


It's why I want to be on the sidelines z. I hate fucking having to defend (or explain) myself.

Just listen to me and win the game.


>joins a game that revolves around discussion
>expects to coast by without having to elaborate on his thoughts

Legit.


I have explained a small bit of stuff. Like I usually do.

Z.


Any good points that you make get drowned out by your 100% unnecessary whining.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:47 GMT
#526
On October 05 2016 04:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:44 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:41 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:38 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.


Why would you give a fuck about being called 'too defensive'? It's a stupid fucking argument and even if it was valid, it doesn't stop you from posting your thoughts.

Cop-out excuse detected.


It's why I want to be on the sidelines z. I hate fucking having to defend (or explain) myself.

Just listen to me and win the game.


>joins a game that revolves around discussion
>expects to coast by without having to elaborate on his thoughts

Legit.


I have explained a small bit of stuff. Like I usually do.

Z.


Any good points that you make get drowned out by your 100% unnecessary whining.


What whining? I made one post whining about the shitty PM stuff and I am more recently getting annoyed by people calling me mafia. From what I recall.


You just answered your own question.

Now go forth and do something useful for once.

I'll even give you a free teddy bear to hug so that you can cope with the stress of having to post using your own initiative
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:57 GMT
#533
Seeing HF using actual logic in his posts is incredibly weird.

Then he ruins it with some annoying meta push on Grack which ignores batsnacks' scummy posts.

I'll take the baby steps though.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:00 GMT
#540
A lot of players fall into the "posting but not contributing" much pattern.

I don't fancy a policy lynch over Superbia/ batsnacks. They're not useful enough for me to consider giving them a Day 1 pass.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:02 GMT
#546
On October 05 2016 05:01 Superbia wrote:
I'm fucking done with this garbage bullying attitude.


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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:03 GMT
#551
I was pushing him for voting for you after he stated a scum-read on me. In case it wasn't obvious, I don't scum-read Oats anymore.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:05 GMT
#553
You are either being incredibly childish or you're scum throwing a temper tantrum.

Either way, it can be fixed with a rope.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:06 GMT
#555
And anyone with half a brain cell can infer that Marv town-reads me because his entire fucking argument on you is "Superbia TMI'd that Calix is town with his question"
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:14 GMT
#566
You guys ever consider just looking at what he's done this game so far?

It'll be 100% less misleading as all the information relates to that game.

(and I've already demonstrated that meta reads are not usually that accurate )
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:33 GMT
#581
On October 05 2016 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
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On October 05 2016 05:13 Damdred wrote:
@Batsnack how am I just trying to jump on people who are gathering steam when u was one of the firsts to scum read you essentially? Which you are still super sideline atm not even really interested in making conclusions on super vs everyone atm?

I think superbia is frustrated town would seem consistent with his play the rest of today. He threw out HF and Palmar as names initially and didn't want to explain why for fear of critical people, critical people end up barking at him anyway which is totally his fault but his reactions check out.

I thought marv and superbia were equally obtuse to each other earlier marv was just better at spinning it and it got exacerbated by the fact that superbia was being difficult prior.


If you're worried about being criticised then you have no business in a mafia game. I really do not understand why people are objecting to people...questioning them. It's entitled to expect people to not do that.

If you think someone is 'spinning it' then does this mean that you think Marv could be scum? You passed judgment on Superbia but not Marv so it's hard to gauge.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:34 GMT
#584
Stutters is probably going to do nothing again. No idea why he signed for two games after he phoned in the first.

Ignoring him for now.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:37 GMT
#587
On October 05 2016 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 05:34 Calix wrote:
Stutters is probably going to do nothing again. No idea why he signed for two games after he phoned in the first.

Ignoring him for now.

he's literally been playing for years doing the same thing :p


If that's 'playing' then rats are a rare breed of animal.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:39 GMT
#590
On October 05 2016 05:37 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine.

That post was outrageously tmi.

He whined about needing to stay on the sidelines presumably because of the bad critical people, he dropped two names but was apprehensive to provide reasoning because omg critical people again, and then he got super frustrated when after he finally opens up the thread runs a train on him. I don't think this story is that outrageous.


Again with you acting like you're making up bullshit to sell to us. (bolded)

You're literally speaking on behalf of Superbia as well when you can't know his reasoning for sure.

You sound like standard scum.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:46 GMT
#597
Is this JAT/ Koshi interaction relevant? I haven't been reading it.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:48 GMT
#600
On October 05 2016 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 05:46 Calix wrote:
Is this JAT/ Koshi interaction relevant? I haven't been reading it.

Not really.


Brilliant. Now I can divert both of you to the actual interesting events in the chat to give thoughts on.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 20:54 GMT
#613
On October 05 2016 05:50 batsnacks wrote:
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On October 05 2016 05:39 Damdred wrote:
Well bats, I am,not sure why you think him being afraid leads him to,being town. And I'm not sure where you are getting that he is even scared at tbh.

If you could,point that out would be good. And super who has played with most of us and,is generally a thorn in people's sides as town and explains himself I just don't see fear.

So I really don't understand the read you made.

Also you avoided explaining how I am just jumping on the easy target when I posted my scum,read not,much push on then,exactly.

Most of his first posts are insisting that he needs to stay on the sidelines this phase, that it's in town's best interest that he does or something. Also I remember when I asked about HF and palmar he wouldn't tell me what he was thinking.

Being afraid leads to him being town I guess because it doesn't make sense to be afraid as mafia. I'm sure I've played with super in the past but it's been years since I've played with any of you and I don't really remember anything about how super plays.

What I'm saying isn't so much that I'm CERTAIN super is town and afraid, it's that his frustration would be consistent with being town and afraid, which would be consistent with trying to stay on the sidelines and his reluctance to elaborate on reads.

Like maybe super is self aware that his reads will not stand up to scrutiny because it's only 24 hours into a pretty lame day 1 so far but they're the best he has anyway lol. I obviously can't speak for him but that's pretty much where I'm at anyway.


Mafia can be afraid because the town have numbers and can find and kill them, duh.

Your logic is extremely weird because you list classically scummy things (staying on the sides, not contributing, being fearful) as...town tells?

And yeah you are speaking for him way too much. You basically made up a narrative for town!Superbia.
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