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On October 05 2016 18:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 18:17 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 18:12 Holyflare wrote:
Calix can you give me a rundown of your scum reads and why in some short sentences? Pointless question, given that I have literally said "batsnacks and JAT are in cahoots" I don't have a third full-on scum-read. I just think that this group [Koshi/ Palmar/ HF/ Stutters] have scum among them. So I just bussed my entire team pointlessly despite you seeing me write in your last game how shit bussing day 1 is..........?????????????????????? ????? ???? ..???..?
Don't let this convince you. He has bussed on day1 countless times. In my last game (which I mentioned quite a few times by now) he bussed superbia day1 and that is only one example.
Fortunately I am not mafia.
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Seriously.... off to work.
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On October 05 2016 20:33 marvellosity wrote:
And jat is frightfully dull. I also have less time than historically (hence first game in 4 months) but at least I say things occasionally interesting while i'm here
You are dull.
Also I remember you saying the exact same thing the last time I had little time to play. We all know how that ended.
On October 05 2016 20:35 marvellosity wrote:
also yeah, jat's push on Stutters looks quite bad.
What about it looks bad exactly? It was an observation and I did not follow up on it since stutters did not post since then. Hardly a push.
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On October 05 2016 21:04 batsnacks wrote:
K Im caught up now nice rant post HF I similarly agree I wouldn't be that surprised if most of you flipped Mafia. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm going to borrow from what palmar said earlier but I think at least several of you are too caught up in yourselves to be as successful as town could be on this first day. the game is less about what's going now on in Cruise Boat Mafia more about maybe a select few egos.
i think a large majority agree that Calix vs <X> has been a pretty consistent, useless shit show. I don't think I've seen anyone move forward in any conversation with this person without moving two steps backward into unnecessary defensiveness or unpleasantness
I'm being pushed, I think, because I suggested in the that superbia was frustrated town dealing with a (self admitted) anti town person and a whole train of other people all at once. I'll repeat my superbia story because I still don't think it's an unreasonable perspective. Superbia started the game afraid to post their reads they commented several times that it was in their, and town's, best interest that superbia stay on the sidelines. He finally got pressured into sharing some reads and immediately got met with pretty much everyone insulting him and saying he was Mafia.
Then HF, OUTRAGED that I could possibly suggest superbia may be showing signs of frustration in the HEAT OF PASSION started the push on me. Like how on earth does it ever benefit me as Mafia to suddenly pop in with the most unpopular of all opinions ever. Even if my read on superbia is trash, which hey it might be!, why am I ever sharing that?
People should look at what people are posting IN THIS GAME like who cares that jat is capable of being a parrot/pushing an anti town agenda as town. He could be pushing a Mafia agenda in this game by doing that.
Damdred too in his all stars bio it says Damdred is a slow starter, in his all start game he was slow with questions at the start and was very careful to take stances before being solve-y first. Here he just popped in midway through the game with a few sudden conclusions and no questions. Can Damdred do this as town sure but he could also be pushing a Mafia agenda.
What Mafia agenda am I pushing when I say "hey guys superbia looks like frustrated town here" in the midst of half the thread calling him terrible?
Let me tell you why you should care:
Because if I am able/prone to do that as town you cannot use it as argument for me to be mafia. Pretty simple and logical concept. The point of this game is to show why someone is mafia and you are not doing that.
Superbia threw a fit and it was completely unwarranted. The fact that he is getting scumread for it specifically is that he is known to do that as mafia. You nonsensically stated that you think he is town for being afraid when generally being afraid is a scumtell for most people.
It's not necessarily mafia agenda to defend superbia here (even though it very well could be because he is quite scummy) but it really doesn't need to be for you to be scum.
Your damdred point is ok though.
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I don't like this new ramble without conclusion Palmar.
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On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt.
huh
I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all.
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On October 05 2016 22:39 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. What? This has nothing to do with you. He's asking how my opinion of Grack would change depending on what Bat flipped. I responded with "Grack could be a potential partner if Bat is scum but I don't think he's done anything scummy at the moment" I don't even get what your argument is here.
Your whole scumread on me hinges on bats being scum. And now if someone asks you what you think of grack if bats flips scum you say: "he might be scum because he pushed JAT instead of bats"? Like what?
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On October 05 2016 22:49 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 22:42 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:39 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. What? This has nothing to do with you. He's asking how my opinion of Grack would change depending on what Bat flipped. I responded with "Grack could be a potential partner if Bat is scum but I don't think he's done anything scummy at the moment" I don't even get what your argument is here. Your whole scumread on me hinges on bats being scum. And now if someone asks you what you think of grack if bats flips scum you say: "he might be scum because he pushed JAT instead of bats"? Like what? I said that a large part of my scum-read on you revolves around scum!bat, not the entire thing. It's a possibility that I was asked about. I don't see how considering other possibilities where you AREN'T scum with batsnacks is a bad thing. As said before, I am skeptical that I have actually found two of the mafia on Day 1. Actually you know what? I'm not going to spend more time exploring this line of thought as it's pre-flip, relies on speculation and I don't even know if batsnacks is scum yet. Ask something more productive.
Interesting. So you are weakening your read now when questioned. Very scummy.
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But sarcasm aside:
That was a pretty bad mental fuckup. Mafia can forget the story they are trying to create but town usually doesn't lose track of their grasp on the game like that.
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On October 05 2016 22:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 22:51 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:49 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:42 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:39 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. What? This has nothing to do with you. He's asking how my opinion of Grack would change depending on what Bat flipped. I responded with "Grack could be a potential partner if Bat is scum but I don't think he's done anything scummy at the moment" I don't even get what your argument is here. Your whole scumread on me hinges on bats being scum. And now if someone asks you what you think of grack if bats flips scum you say: "he might be scum because he pushed JAT instead of bats"? Like what? I said that a large part of my scum-read on you revolves around scum!bat, not the entire thing. It's a possibility that I was asked about. I don't see how considering other possibilities where you AREN'T scum with batsnacks is a bad thing. As said before, I am skeptical that I have actually found two of the mafia on Day 1. Actually you know what? I'm not going to spend more time exploring this line of thought as it's pre-flip, relies on speculation and I don't even know if batsnacks is scum yet. Ask something more productive. Interesting. So you are weakening your read now when questioned. Very scummy. Please state where I backtracked on my read of you. I clearly stated that my Grack idea was considering another possibility, not that you were less scummy. If you're referring to my first line, I already said that earlier in the thread.
I am not interested in this shitfight which is about to ensue. I won't waste more time than this post on it.
Fact is your read on me is 99 % association with batsnacks and you just now completely "forgot" it. Now that I called you out on it you suddenly aren't interested in pre flip associations anymore. How convenient.
But sure. Let's stop making associations like that - they suck anyways.
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On October 05 2016 23:03 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 22:59 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:53 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:51 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:49 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:42 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:39 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum?
If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. What? This has nothing to do with you. He's asking how my opinion of Grack would change depending on what Bat flipped. I responded with "Grack could be a potential partner if Bat is scum but I don't think he's done anything scummy at the moment" I don't even get what your argument is here. Your whole scumread on me hinges on bats being scum. And now if someone asks you what you think of grack if bats flips scum you say: "he might be scum because he pushed JAT instead of bats"? Like what? I said that a large part of my scum-read on you revolves around scum!bat, not the entire thing. It's a possibility that I was asked about. I don't see how considering other possibilities where you AREN'T scum with batsnacks is a bad thing. As said before, I am skeptical that I have actually found two of the mafia on Day 1. Actually you know what? I'm not going to spend more time exploring this line of thought as it's pre-flip, relies on speculation and I don't even know if batsnacks is scum yet. Ask something more productive. Interesting. So you are weakening your read now when questioned. Very scummy. Please state where I backtracked on my read of you. I clearly stated that my Grack idea was considering another possibility, not that you were less scummy. If you're referring to my first line, I already said that earlier in the thread. I am not interested in this shitfight which is about to ensue. I won't waste more time than this post on it. Fact is your read on me is 99 % association with batsnacks and you just now completely "forgot" it. Now that I called you out on it you suddenly aren't interested in pre flip associations anymore. How convenient. But sure. Let's stop making associations like that - they suck anyways. My read is not entirely based on pre-flips and I didn't 'forget' about it as I've already said. Yes, why don't you tell us where your reads are at? I'm having a hard time gauging your positions here.
I will give you guys a lynchpool before I have to leave in a few hours. Don't worry. But that takes more time than casually responding to the thread.
Why don't you start since you seem to have all the time in the world?
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On October 05 2016 23:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 21:26 Palmar wrote:
I don't like Calix all that much. I was super impressed with her when I was mafia, but I don't think her approach this game is nearly as good. Maybe it's because I'm not aware of whether or not she's being clever (you tend to overestimate townies when you're scum) but who knows.
Calix's tone is too aggressive/lecturey for me to be paying that much attention to her posts
How is your time schedule? The likelihood that I will put my vote where you want it before I leave is pretty high so if I have to force myself to have time at some point it would be good if you were around aswell.
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On October 05 2016 23:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I have the same conclusion s as cypherbia on grasp and bats. I think they are town.
I would Lynch jat 10 times before voting bats. Jat s defense on #811 ( can't quote from phone) was him saying that his play this game corresponds to his town meta. This is a prime example of a scum being aware of his town palsy and trying to replicate it.
Also, calix, why Re you using the bats. Jat interaction against bats? Jat defense of bats makes jat and jat only scummy.
No, this is a prime example of someone getting scumread for playing his townmeta.
Your logic doesn't work. "He says he is playing his townmeta so obviously he is just trying to replicate it". Retarded.
If you don't believe me you can easily check if I am telling the truth.
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On October 06 2016 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 20:50 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 20:33 marvellosity wrote:
And jat is frightfully dull. I also have less time than historically (hence first game in 4 months) but at least I say things occasionally interesting while i'm here You are dull. Also I remember you saying the exact same thing the last time I had little time to play. We all know how that ended. On October 05 2016 20:35 marvellosity wrote:
also yeah, jat's push on Stutters looks quite bad. What about it looks bad exactly? It was an observation and I did not follow up on it since stutters did not post since then. Hardly a push. Nobody is accusing you for having little time to play, by the way. There's a reason why you are getting pushed over Koshi.
Not really. The only one who is pushing me right now is you and I easily refuted your "case".
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On October 06 2016 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. This actually makes some sense. If Batsnacks is scum it looks like I am trying to drive a wagon away from Batsnacks without defending him.
Way to miss the point.
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On October 06 2016 00:40 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 00:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. This actually makes some sense. If Batsnacks is scum it looks like I am trying to drive a wagon away from Batsnacks without defending him. Way to miss the point. I didn't. She said that you have been too reactive not that you are only scum because you are on a team with Batsnacks.
Wrong.
But irrelevant. Even if she scumread me independently I would still be mafia in her world and this still eould make no sense.
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On October 06 2016 00:49 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 00:42 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 00:40 Grackaroni wrote:On October 06 2016 00:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. This actually makes some sense. If Batsnacks is scum it looks like I am trying to drive a wagon away from Batsnacks without defending him. Way to miss the point. I didn't. She said that you have been too reactive not that you are only scum because you are on a team with Batsnacks. Wrong. But irrelevant. Even if she scumread me independently I would still be mafia in her world and this still eould make no sense. Fact check: Calix has called JAT reactive. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 16:27 Calix wrote:Not quotes but JAT has a lot of posts where he says "XYZ is behaving normally for them" or asking a question and then not going anywhere with them.
On October 05 2016 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 00:41 Calix wrote:
Also if anyone wants to comment on batsnacks' filter so far then knock yourself out. 0 problems with his filter so far. Generally town batsnacks doesn't give a fuck/is very sassy/self-confident while scum batsnacks tends to blend in immediately. Not really conclusive since I think he was improving his game the last time I saw him as mafia but I wouldn't lynch him right now. Here JAT's response is to characterise batsnacks as 'sassy and self-confident' (implying that these are accurate words to describe his filter). He also notes that batsnacks had been 'improving his scum game' - an odd thing to note on someone that you claim to have 'no problems' with so far. On October 05 2016 01:19 justanothertownie wrote:
I still maintain that I do not have a particular problem with his filter but I retract my confidence. This doesn't make sense. He didn't have much confidence in his read to begin with (i.e., the comment about an improved mafia game) and how does one lose confidence without seeing a problem with the filter? On October 05 2016 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:19 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:11 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 00:41 Calix wrote:
Also if anyone wants to comment on batsnacks' filter so far then knock yourself out. 0 problems with his filter so far. Generally town batsnacks doesn't give a fuck/is very sassy/self-confident while scum batsnacks tends to blend in immediately. Not really conclusive since I think he was improving his game the last time I saw him as mafia but I wouldn't lynch him right now. Eh? I didn't get the impression that he was being that sassy or whatnot. In fact, his filter is one that I'd characterise as "trying to blend in" so I don't relate to your impression of him. I don't have a 'case' per se but my impression of him is that he's popping in to make comments which sound okay by themselves but add up to a poor filter. Namely he has a few pre-flip association theories which don't tell us much about where he actually stands on the players as individuals. #266 pinged me because he doesn't really SAY anything in it. He waffles around, seemingly contemplating the possibility of scum!Calix, and then concludes null on NU/ myself (although he says that NU 'gives him town vibes'?) and his argument is "if they're TvT then it would be more obvious since they seem to know each other well" #334 and #399 read like he's throwing shade on everyone in the NU/ Calix/ HF debacle. He throws up ideas where we could all be scum at certain points...but we have NO idea of where he actually stands. This is lazy but I think he's a good candidate for scum atm. On October 05 2016 00:55 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 00:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 05 2016 00:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 00:14 batsnacks wrote:
Calix said that there was no specific evidence she could produce for NU abusing PMs as Mafia, even though she implied NU did this as Mafia before
Holyflare said "produce evidence or die"
Those events happened in that order. Maybe Mafia Holyflare knowingly issued Calix an impossible task to make the narrative for Calix being Mafia stronger? Anyway that's what I was thinking hopefully it makes sense. Quote the posts please. I explicitly said that I had no specific evidence after HF's last post iirc. On another note, Palmar is underwhelming as fuck so far. Wouldn't mind policy-lynching him. No, this post was not against you. It was against HF. Read snacks's post again. It's about HF being aware that what he is asking you is impossible for you to deliver, thus making you appear mafia. offski Yeah this is also effective if holyflare is town though so I guess it depends whether or not town Holyflare thinks Calix is Mafia. Holyflare wasn't wrong about anything he said it just seemed like a pretty dramatic way to be right. Calix wrote it off st the time as Holyflare being a dramatic person, I would probably be more concerned about it in her position. HF is a dramatic person though? You're not actually faulting HF's arguments, you're just faulting his confidence which he can do as any alignment. (aka it's null) No idea why you're hung up on this. Also how is your point 'effective' if your original point had HF as scum? I don't understand. Actually there is less of that stuff in his filter than I remembered. But there are still quite a few posts I would label as typical town bats posts. Maybe I didn't use the correct words to describe the tone: On October 04 2016 07:24 batsnacks wrote:
Just a scummy pop in post nothing to see here. On October 04 2016 21:45 batsnacks wrote:
lol someone said "Power Wolf" that sounds like a sex thing On October 04 2016 22:40 batsnacks wrote:
Also check out this skit I'm imagining
Mafia Calix goes after Mafia NU for dumb PM BS
People are town reading Mafia NU, Mafia Calix is going in too hard and getting heat
They buddy up and everything is suddenly fine after almost 24 hours of Calix scum reading NU for NAI reasons
Pretty good right? First two look like typical shit-posts to me. Third one is one of the reasons why I'm suspecting him. So not terribly convinced here but I'll see. The quality of the content doesn't necessarily correlate with the overall usefullness of a post to get a read. Those ARE shitposts. But in my experience town batsnacks is more likely to make shitposts like that. If you want to judge him on content you will have a bad time if he is town. On October 05 2016 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:23 Calix wrote:
I'm not bothered about his shit-posts; they don't factor into the main issues I have with him.
I just don't think they warrant a town-read unless you're saying that he's one of those types who is more serious as scum. He is definitely one of thise types. And on the heels of losing his confidence, he makes these two posts: Soft-ball defense of batsnacks using his shit-posting, arguing that this shows batsnacks is less serious and thus is likely town. His last post says that batsnacks is "definitely" one of the types to be more serious as scum. This is an odd shift in confidence from "having retracted [his confidence]" to now being sure that batsnacks acts in a certain way as scum. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 16:38 Calix wrote:
Also while I'm here, if anyone wants to present actual analysis for why batsnacks can be town, I'd like to hear it.
Because so far, I've seen nothing convincing outside of "he's hilarious" (courtesy of NU) and "some of his later posts were okay" (which doesn't invalidate the earlier points)
Both batsnacks and JAT are playing passively imo. We rate the claim true.
Why are you going out of your way to avoid the actual issue? Calix admitted herself that the association with batsnacks was a major part of her read. And knowing that what she said just makes 0 sense.
Go read HFs post about it instead of trying to sidestep. It sums it up pretty well.
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On October 06 2016 00:59 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 00:49 Grackaroni wrote:On October 06 2016 00:42 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 00:40 Grackaroni wrote:On October 06 2016 00:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum?
If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. This actually makes some sense. If Batsnacks is scum it looks like I am trying to drive a wagon away from Batsnacks without defending him. Way to miss the point. I didn't. She said that you have been too reactive not that you are only scum because you are on a team with Batsnacks. Wrong. But irrelevant. Even if she scumread me independently I would still be mafia in her world and this still eould make no sense. Fact check: Calix has called JAT reactive. On October 05 2016 16:27 Calix wrote:Not quotes but JAT has a lot of posts where he says "XYZ is behaving normally for them" or asking a question and then not going anywhere with them.
On October 05 2016 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 00:41 Calix wrote:
Also if anyone wants to comment on batsnacks' filter so far then knock yourself out. 0 problems with his filter so far. Generally town batsnacks doesn't give a fuck/is very sassy/self-confident while scum batsnacks tends to blend in immediately. Not really conclusive since I think he was improving his game the last time I saw him as mafia but I wouldn't lynch him right now. Here JAT's response is to characterise batsnacks as 'sassy and self-confident' (implying that these are accurate words to describe his filter). He also notes that batsnacks had been 'improving his scum game' - an odd thing to note on someone that you claim to have 'no problems' with so far. On October 05 2016 01:19 justanothertownie wrote:
I still maintain that I do not have a particular problem with his filter but I retract my confidence. This doesn't make sense. He didn't have much confidence in his read to begin with (i.e., the comment about an improved mafia game) and how does one lose confidence without seeing a problem with the filter? On October 05 2016 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:19 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:11 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 00:41 Calix wrote:
Also if anyone wants to comment on batsnacks' filter so far then knock yourself out. 0 problems with his filter so far. Generally town batsnacks doesn't give a fuck/is very sassy/self-confident while scum batsnacks tends to blend in immediately. Not really conclusive since I think he was improving his game the last time I saw him as mafia but I wouldn't lynch him right now. Eh? I didn't get the impression that he was being that sassy or whatnot. In fact, his filter is one that I'd characterise as "trying to blend in" so I don't relate to your impression of him. I don't have a 'case' per se but my impression of him is that he's popping in to make comments which sound okay by themselves but add up to a poor filter. Namely he has a few pre-flip association theories which don't tell us much about where he actually stands on the players as individuals. #266 pinged me because he doesn't really SAY anything in it. He waffles around, seemingly contemplating the possibility of scum!Calix, and then concludes null on NU/ myself (although he says that NU 'gives him town vibes'?) and his argument is "if they're TvT then it would be more obvious since they seem to know each other well" #334 and #399 read like he's throwing shade on everyone in the NU/ Calix/ HF debacle. He throws up ideas where we could all be scum at certain points...but we have NO idea of where he actually stands. This is lazy but I think he's a good candidate for scum atm. On October 05 2016 00:55 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 00:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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No, this post was not against you. It was against HF. Read snacks's post again. It's about HF being aware that what he is asking you is impossible for you to deliver, thus making you appear mafia.
offski Yeah this is also effective if holyflare is town though so I guess it depends whether or not town Holyflare thinks Calix is Mafia. Holyflare wasn't wrong about anything he said it just seemed like a pretty dramatic way to be right. Calix wrote it off st the time as Holyflare being a dramatic person, I would probably be more concerned about it in her position. HF is a dramatic person though? You're not actually faulting HF's arguments, you're just faulting his confidence which he can do as any alignment. (aka it's null) No idea why you're hung up on this. Also how is your point 'effective' if your original point had HF as scum? I don't understand. Actually there is less of that stuff in his filter than I remembered. But there are still quite a few posts I would label as typical town bats posts. Maybe I didn't use the correct words to describe the tone: On October 04 2016 07:24 batsnacks wrote:
Just a scummy pop in post nothing to see here. On October 04 2016 21:45 batsnacks wrote:
lol someone said "Power Wolf" that sounds like a sex thing On October 04 2016 22:40 batsnacks wrote:
Also check out this skit I'm imagining
Mafia Calix goes after Mafia NU for dumb PM BS
People are town reading Mafia NU, Mafia Calix is going in too hard and getting heat
They buddy up and everything is suddenly fine after almost 24 hours of Calix scum reading NU for NAI reasons
Pretty good right? First two look like typical shit-posts to me. Third one is one of the reasons why I'm suspecting him. So not terribly convinced here but I'll see. The quality of the content doesn't necessarily correlate with the overall usefullness of a post to get a read. Those ARE shitposts. But in my experience town batsnacks is more likely to make shitposts like that. If you want to judge him on content you will have a bad time if he is town. On October 05 2016 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 01:23 Calix wrote:
I'm not bothered about his shit-posts; they don't factor into the main issues I have with him.
I just don't think they warrant a town-read unless you're saying that he's one of those types who is more serious as scum. He is definitely one of thise types. And on the heels of losing his confidence, he makes these two posts: Soft-ball defense of batsnacks using his shit-posting, arguing that this shows batsnacks is less serious and thus is likely town. His last post says that batsnacks is "definitely" one of the types to be more serious as scum. This is an odd shift in confidence from "having retracted [his confidence]" to now being sure that batsnacks acts in a certain way as scum. On October 05 2016 16:38 Calix wrote:
Also while I'm here, if anyone wants to present actual analysis for why batsnacks can be town, I'd like to hear it.
Because so far, I've seen nothing convincing outside of "he's hilarious" (courtesy of NU) and "some of his later posts were okay" (which doesn't invalidate the earlier points)
Both batsnacks and JAT are playing passively imo. We rate the claim true. Why are you going out of your way to avoid the actual issue? Calix admitted herself that the association with batsnacks was a major part of her read. And knowing that what she said just makes 0 sense. Go read HFs post about it instead of trying to sidestep. It sums it up pretty well. I read the post, I just don't agree. Calix has been townie this game and I don't expect her to have 100% confidence that her scum team is right. I have to go. Let us pray for Marv's benevolence.
THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DISAGREE ON.
She literally said it. Do I really need to look for the exact post?
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Grack = pretty decent lynch.
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He clearly decided he would defend calix no matter what before actually reading what has been said about her.
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