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NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 23:10 GMT
#680
Please expand on your DDD and JAT reads. Try not using meta if you can.

Why is your Palmar read based pretty much solely on what Marv said about him?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 23:30 GMT
#682
On October 05 2016 08:10 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Please expand on your DDD and JAT reads. Try not using meta if you can.

Why is your Palmar read based pretty much solely on what Marv said about him?

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 23:42 GMT
#686
On October 05 2016 08:33 batsnacks wrote:
Hey I'm gonna catch the debates soon so


Ugh, I can already sense it's going to be a bore. Neither Pence nor Kaine has charisma.

I'd rather wait for Sunday's presidential debate.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 23:45 GMT
#688
On October 05 2016 08:30 batsnacks wrote:
This was the damdred game I read sort of recently where his line of questioning at the beginning seems slower and different http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/3255-Season-3-Final-Game-The-Koopa-Troop

I'm not super current on anyone's meta here but damdred's sudden entrance, sudden conclusions without the early questions, and his conclusions being a lot different than mine could suggest an agenda.


Having different conclusions in no way suggests an agenda, lol.

Your DDD read is purely based on meta. Sudden entrance/sudden conclusions (Which I haven't personally noticed) are not AI.

This read feels like a weasel read.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 23:47 GMT
#689
On October 05 2016 08:18 batsnacks wrote:
jat was on the ground floor with NU vs Calix, said later that he has "0 idea why anyone [Superbia] would find that fight interesting." He's been there a few times egging Calix on when what Calix was doing at the time was at best anti town.

I know I'm speaking as someone who himself is guilty of not taking stances but jat is also there sort of directing traffic a lot of the time and similarly not taking stances.


"Who himself is guilty" Interesting choice of words...

I agree that JAT has acted like a passenger so far.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 23:52 GMT
#690
On October 05 2016 08:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 08:18 batsnacks wrote:
jat was on the ground floor with NU vs Calix, said later that he has "0 idea why anyone [Superbia] would find that fight interesting." He's been there a few times egging Calix on when what Calix was doing at the time was at best anti town.

I know I'm speaking as someone who himself is guilty of not taking stances but jat is also there sort of directing traffic a lot of the time and similarly not taking stances.


"Who himself is guilty" Interesting choice of words...

I agree that JAT has acted like a passenger so far.


I really had to try hard not to use the word "scumslip" there.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 01:00 GMT
#701
On October 05 2016 09:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.

What are those reasons?


Complacency

Acting too nice

Making closed posts ie not open for discussion

(Didn't happen this game yet, but his actions and reads were all self-centered)

Reads not conclusive

His stances are late (Not really here. Different context)

Safe reads
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 01:01 GMT
#702
On October 05 2016 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm filtering because I don't want to read through the Calix/NU posts because I'm pretty confident they're both town.


You're missing out on certain interactions then.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 01:41 GMT
#705
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.


Interpret this the way you like.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 01:52 GMT
#707
On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.


Interpret this the way you like.

That is all you'll get.

I assume you have reads on the most active players as well. Care to share them?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:01 GMT
#709
On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.


Interpret this the way you like.

No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.

Funny considering you have not pronounced yourself on that matter.

I did not see you commenting on the HF, DDD, nor Grack.

Also, have you done your military service? And why would the government make it mandatory when the country has no threatening enemy?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:16 GMT
#711
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 11:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.[/QUOTE]

Interpret this the way you like.[/QUOTE]
No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.
[/QUOTE]
Funny considering you have not pronounced yourself on that matter.

I did not see you commenting on the HF, DDD, nor Grack.

Also, have you done your military service? And why would the government make it mandatory when the country has no threatening enemy?[/QUOTE]
I think damdred pretty null for me.

Huzzah! See, you cannot decide whether he is town or scum either. [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.[/QUOTE]

Interpret this the way you like.[/QUOTE]
No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.
[/QUOTE]
[quote]
Grack scummy, hf is also scummy. hes weirdly defensive and his tone is a bit off. [/quote]

Exactly.

Dunno about Grack. He's been pretty \0 so far. What makes you think he is scummy?

[quote]Im in the middle of it right now lol. It's mandatory because any country could just invade, Singapore has quite a lot of value in terms of its location + it's a mainly Chinese country in the middle of Malay countries. So it's more for deterrence now.
[/QUOTE]

I guess that makes sense, especially historically.

Although if any country wanted to invade Singapore, a 5 million people city/country, I guess they would have already done it by now. You almost have more chance of fending off assailants with Durian's smell than with manpower, lol.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:19 GMT
#713
Oh, boy, that was ugly. "EBWOP":

I think damdred pretty null for me.


Huzzah! See, you cannot decide whether he is town or scum either.
On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.


Grack scummy, hf is also scummy. hes weirdly defensive and his tone is a bit off.


Exactly.

Dunno about Grack. He's been pretty \0 so far. What makes you think he is scummy?

Im in the middle of it right now lol. It's mandatory because any country could just invade, Singapore has quite a lot of value in terms of its location + it's a mainly Chinese country in the middle of Malay countries. So it's more for deterrence now.


I guess that makes sense, especially historically.

Although if any country wanted to invade Singapore, a 5 million people city/country, I guess they would have already done it by now. You almost have more chance of fending off assailants with Durian's smell than with manpower, lol.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:22 GMT
#716
On October 05 2016 11:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
There's nothing wrong with either of those "cases", both based on legit good points, both dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light.

It's called playing mafia, you should try it bro.

Also hf doesn't have much emotional attachment to his pushes, that's weird.


He's scum. That simple.

Heading off. May not be able to be online at EoD.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:23 GMT
#717
Also, I like Oats' posts. Town-read for me.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 11:45 GMT
#864
Calix, I understand where your idea came from. NU - Aroith case. Not a FM game.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 14:41 GMT
#909
I have the same conclusion s as cypherbia on grasp and bats. I think they are town.

I would Lynch jat 10 times before voting bats. Jat s defense on #811 ( can't quote from phone) was him saying that his play this game corresponds to his town meta. This is a prime example of a scum being aware of his town palsy and trying to replicate it.

Also, calix, why Re you using the bats. Jat interaction against bats? Jat defense of bats makes jat and jat only scummy.

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 14:42 GMT
#910
On October 05 2016 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 21:26 Palmar wrote:
I don't like Calix all that much. I was super impressed with her when I was mafia, but I don't think her approach this game is nearly as good. Maybe it's because I'm not aware of whether or not she's being clever (you tend to overestimate townies when you're scum) but who knows.

Calix's tone is too aggressive/lecturey for me to be paying that much attention to her posts

You're soft
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 14:44 GMT
#912
Calix dw about 791. I'm studying health science
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 17:00 GMT
#973
On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote:
NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo.

re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point.

That is not the conclusion I was drawing. I do not use preflips d1. I was only questioning your approach on the matter.

You have not pushed me. That shit was based on a pl joke.

I did not like your latest posts (currently at p46 and posting from phone and shittiest Subway wifi NA)
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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