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On October 04 2016 23:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ? She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine. I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'. maybe shit power wolves where you come from.
They're almost unheard of where I come from. Lurk scums are the most common ones.
here people have brains (he says tentatively)
tumblewood
like seriously, no-one is going to lynch someone at someone's word like that without asking for proof. i'm shocked anyone at your homesite would get away with it because "please show me evidence" is pretty strong tictac
They wouldn't get away with it I don't think.
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Uh.
I did not understand this
like seriously, no-one is going to lynch someone at someone's word like that without asking for proof. i'm shocked anyone at your homesite would get away with it because "please show me evidence" is pretty strong tictac
in that case.
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On October 04 2016 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
like my question was 100% legit, if i start making shit up about someone i know well on here, i'm gonna get called out on it and it's a lot more trouble than its worth
hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove
that's why i ask the question
This I don't understand either.
I don't know what's the question you're referring to.
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On October 05 2016 00:26 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 00:14 batsnacks wrote:
Calix said that there was no specific evidence she could produce for NU abusing PMs as Mafia, even though she implied NU did this as Mafia before
Holyflare said "produce evidence or die"
Those events happened in that order. Maybe Mafia Holyflare knowingly issued Calix an impossible task to make the narrative for Calix being Mafia stronger? Anyway that's what I was thinking hopefully it makes sense. Quote the posts please. I explicitly said that I had no specific evidence after HF's last post iirc. On another note, Palmar is underwhelming as fuck so far. Wouldn't mind policy-lynching him.
No, this post was not against you. It was against HF. Read snacks's post again. It's about HF being aware that what he is asking you is impossible for you to deliver, thus making you appear mafia.
offski
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On October 05 2016 01:14 Palmar wrote:
this #number thing instead of quotes has got to stop.
Man, Plamar makes the same type of posts he made in HM3.
He was scum in that game.
On October 05 2016 01:52 Calix wrote:
I'm not reaching. I'm just an impatient person.
What's the point of saying you would have mod-killed NU?
lol
"I'm not reaching. This is why I reached."
On October 05 2016 04:23 Superbia wrote:
Why do people think I'm scummy?
They think you are a nocent lurker. :3
What do you think on that matter?
On October 05 2016 04:57 Calix wrote:
Seeing HF using actual logic in his posts is incredibly weird.
Then he ruins it with some annoying meta push on Grack which ignores batsnacks' scummy posts.
I'll take the baby steps though.
Where did HF use logic?
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On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine.
That post was outrageously tmi.
I think Superbia is town.
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Hyberbole flare is exaggerating every point he makes. He is clearly painting others as scum.
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On October 05 2016 06:39 Calix wrote:
As a tip, I'd recommend not posting as you catch up in the future. It just dredges up outdated information.
I have to. You now have more posts than me. Every post I can make I will make.
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On October 05 2016 06:42 Calix wrote:
Dude, I'm being serious. Don't clog up the chat with bullshit.
HF exaggerating shit...what would you call his horrendous TT push in HM then? lol
No, they are very distinct pushes. When I look at HM3 and this game, I see two very different HF. I may (and should) elaborate later if I have the time to do so. I will have to go radio silent soon for probably the remainder of D1.
I suggest you reread his cases on you and Super.
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On October 05 2016 06:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine.
That post was outrageously tmi. I think Superbia is town. Yes and that is why I am voting batsnacks. *clap clap*
"There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town"
Yet you agree with me that Superbia is town? Big contradiction. Nowhere have you let hints of your read progression on SUper before now.
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On October 05 2016 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
There's nothing wrong with either of those "cases", both based on legit good points, both dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light.
It's called playing mafia, you should try it bro.
Would like to. Only I rolled town.
What has "dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light" have to do with the legitimacy/validity of your "cases"?
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I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.
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On October 05 2016 06:58 Holyflare wrote:Explain plz.
He's fucking hilarious.
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On October 05 2016 07:06 Calix wrote:
I was hoping for a more incisive counterargument to batsnacks being scum.
Me too. I re-read his filter and only found 3-4 posts I liked/felt a town tone. He had just as many, if not more, scummy posts. I do not know if he is town anymore.
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On October 05 2016 05:58 batsnacks wrote:I was just thinking jat can be mafia though. There were some moments, one where Carix was yelling at super, where he's maybe been egging bad town behavior. Like this is one Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 05:05 Calix wrote:
You are either being incredibly childish or you're scum throwing a temper tantrum.
Either way, it can be fixed with a rope. Top post. That's not the first one I just don't want to find the rest.
I don't like that his only expressed scum-read is worded like this (bold). Other than that "can be mafia", the dude has no scum-read.
I like how he calls Calix "Carix" though.
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On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out.
This post feels genuine and really makes me think BS (Funny initials) is town.
On October 05 2016 05:30 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 05:13 Damdred wrote:
@Batsnack how am I just trying to jump on people who are gathering steam when u was one of the firsts to scum read you essentially? Which you are still super sideline atm not even really interested in making conclusions on super vs everyone atm? I think superbia is frustrated town would seem consistent with his play the rest of today. He threw out HF and Palmar as names initially and didn't want to explain why for fear of critical people, critical people end up barking at him anyway which is totally his fault but his reactions check out.I thought marv and superbia were equally obtuse to each other earlier marv was just better at spinning it and it got exacerbated by the fact that superbia was being difficult prior.
This post mirrors one of the reasons why I think Superbia is town.
Following are posts which I found town because of the tone and the legitimacy of the original points BS makes. (In the Calix-BS, Super-BS, DDD-BS interactions)
On October 04 2016 21:41 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta. Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do. I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question. People start to town-read you for your question. I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself. Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta" So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know. Weirdly defensive post I keep thinking there should be enough activity from Calix by now to have some opinion of their alignment but I'm having trouble coming up with anything. Most of calix's contributions are game mechanics inspired I could see them coming from any angle or alignment. And there are a couple of these "at least we're talking about something I'm okay with that" statements from Calix that show an awareness that they're "contributing" to the game. Like maybe Mafia Calix is intentionally choosing to talk about things that are easy to fake perspectives on.
I was thinking that the Calix-NU exchange should feel town-town if they are both town and familiar with each other , and I'm getting town vibes from NU not from Calix though they're null.
On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out. I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me. Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz. your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice.
On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote:
Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.
I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.
Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.
I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were. The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you On October 05 2016 04:31 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 04:17 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out. I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me. Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz. your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice. If that's the case, why haven't you tried harder to push the few points that you do have? You just dropped some fantastical theories including gems such as NU and myself hard-core distancing ourselves. You show zero conviction in what you say which strikes me as un-town-like. On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote:
Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.
I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.
Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.
I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were. The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you Explain how being defensive is a scum tell. I explicitly stated that I was inquiring about the quotes you were using as I was aware that you were referring to HF. You couldn't have missed that as I made that comment right after NU pointed this out. Listen, unless someone else is getting anything useful out of this dumb shit fight I'm just going to ignore you because I feel like I'm wasting my time. I didn't say you did anything scummy I don't think you're Mafia, I said your similarly dumb argument with NU is NAI. That your exchange with NU seemed null vs town to me, I don't think it is outrageous for me to think this as any alignment. Your case on me is fine, I'll take harder stances on stuff if stuff comes up, if not I can live with you being right about me for now.
On October 05 2016 05:10 batsnacks wrote:
Hey off work I got to a computer for a bit Damdred can we talk about your read on me. I considered what you said some more and I don't know yet if I believe you believe I'm the best lynch. I'm worried you could just be trying to jump on people that you think are gathering steam.
Finally, this:
On October 04 2016 08:50 batsnacks wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lMcX6I0.gif)
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I am unsure how I feel about the guy. Logic tells me he's null for not having any scum-reads (and his only one being based on a questionable tell) while gut tells me he's town for his tone.
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On October 04 2016 19:32 Calix wrote:
And of course everyone decides to go into hibernation when I pop online. Figures.
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