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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 10 2016 23:00 GMT
#2956
On October 11 2016 07:55 Palmar wrote:
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On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:39 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:36 Calix wrote:
Okay Palmar, let us know when you have some A* contributions instead of trying to lynch an AFK player over yourself, using terrible reasoning everywhere and some whining about how bad everyone else is.

This here people is why we'll lose.

Remember in the post game, how stupid this post is.

ok bye.

What about it is stupid?
The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me.

Nothing on anyone else.

I'll explain what about it is stupid.

It's the complete lack of willing to lead. I have been begging for someone to actually lead this town in a sane way since day 2. I knew I wouldn't be able to. I almost always accept the role of leader myself, but I just can't this time around.

So, she expects me to pump out content and contributions, and doesn't like the fact I'm trying to lynch scum.

Let's remove the name "Palmar" and replace it with "Oatsmaster" or "Onegu" or "Dandel Ion". Suddenly my 9 pages of filter don't look so bad. I am trying to move the game in a sane direction, and in the process I'm putting my reads neck out there because I truly don't know much about the game. I just know a few things and I'm still good at recognizing what is happening and understanding game state.

If I was Onegu, people would be working around my reduced contributions and be willing to solve the game without my input. But Calix wants to sit on her ass and expects to be carried to victory by some monumental effort by me. How about, just this once, yall open my filter. Perhaps compare to the last game in which I tried to play the "afk mafia" role for a bit, and tell me how tonally similar I am to myself.

Or just read what I've posted so far in the game. It's really some of the more townie stuff I've done.


You're assuming that I have any idea of how you 'usually' play.

I don't. All I've seen of you is your shitty AFK play. This game, you're being a whiny bitch and expecting me to listen to you based on some meta reasons which I can't relate to.

In literally no world do I have the impression that you're a good player.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 10 2016 23:02 GMT
#2957
On October 11 2016 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 11 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Palmar is obvious town.

I admit he sounds like town right now. But he is pretty decent at faking that.


I would really hope that mafia!Palmar has a bit more pride than to whine this much as scum.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 10 2016 23:06 GMT
#2961
On October 11 2016 08:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On October 11 2016 08:02 Calix wrote:
On October 11 2016 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Palmar is obvious town.

I admit he sounds like town right now. But he is pretty decent at faking that.


I would really hope that mafia!Palmar has a bit more pride than to whine this much as scum.

You whine when he's afk, you whine when he's here. You're hard to please.


I actually do stuff outside of whining though.

Also I think he was mafia in the Rogue Hype game with HF/ Scott, but the OP isn't updated so not 100% sure there.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 10 2016 23:34 GMT
#2963
I just did. I was pleasantly surprised to see him actually play the game like a normal person.

He does some similar shit to this game (e.g., calling his town-reads bad)...but I see no excessive whining posts and that's the only thing that does it for me at the moment.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 10 2016 23:43 GMT
#2964
So if I just assume that Palmar is town then the three scum basically have to be among Damdred/ Scott/ JAT/ Oats by POE.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 10 2016 23:46 GMT
#2967
So let's lynch Damdred. This makes way more sense since that clears up more.

I really don't think Marv is scum and I'm not in the business of lynching him based on his inactivity.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 10 2016 23:52 GMT
#2970
On October 11 2016 08:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On October 11 2016 08:46 Calix wrote:
So let's lynch Damdred. This makes way more sense since that clears up more.

I really don't think Marv is scum and I'm not in the business of lynching him based on his inactivity.

How is lynching Damdred different in that case?


I'm 100 times more confident that he will flip mafia than Marv, duh.

If both of them are somehow mafia then sure, it doesn't make a difference but I'm not sold there and I'd rather take the safe option now rather than later, you know?

Also means more popcorn if Palmar gets annoyed at me for not listening to him yet again

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 10 2016 23:59 GMT
#2971
It's annoying when I have to differentiate between lurkers and even defend some of them.

But hey, not the first time I've defended the shitty. Wasn't I the only person defending Palmar on Day 1 as well? Just remembered that.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 00:11 GMT
#2975
I'm not hesitant about lynching Scott. I've just been focused on other players.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 00:20 GMT
#2976
I'm wondering if Scott/ Damdred/ JAT makes sense.

I'm only skimming JAT's filter at the moment since it's really late over here so if someone else wants to do it with me then knock yourself out.

You can check up on Marv and Oats too while you're at it.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 00:29 GMT
#2978
I'm doing it to see if my POE reads make sense.

Going to have to leave it for now. I am falling asleep at the keys here and I have important stuff to do tomorrow.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 14:16 GMT
#3007
Scott is probably mafia because of that awful vote plus the fact that he's promised twice to do shit and hasn't done anything plus his awful contradictory posts.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 14:26 GMT
#3014
If you want to do that, Palmar, then try voting for Damdred.

Or JAT. Maybe. I'm getting that feeling about his posts again -_-
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 14:32 GMT
#3017
On October 11 2016 23:28 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 11 2016 23:26 Calix wrote:
If you want to do that, Palmar, then try voting for Damdred.

Or JAT. Maybe. I'm getting that feeling about his posts again -_-

Please don't start being bad again.


I am getting tired of being called bad every time I suspect NU/ Palmar/ JAT.

FYI, posts like these are what ping me.

On October 11 2016 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 11 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Palmar is obvious town.

I admit he sounds like town right now. But he is pretty decent at faking that.


On October 11 2016 23:13 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 11 2016 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
On October 11 2016 23:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 11 2016 23:04 marvellosity wrote:
On October 11 2016 21:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote:
I would also like to point out that you need to read
Palmar
JAT
Oats
Scott

In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not.

I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today.

tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town

i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter)

At which point are we supposed to lynch Palmar in your opinion? If we mislynch today we are in LYLO...

it just means i don't think he's mafia.

Then who is? You already dismissed oats for a really stupid reason. I think you should read his filter instead of saying "he could never post 7 pages as mafia". Especially if you think Palmar is town.

it's not really stupid at all.

Yes, it is. 7 pages is nothing at this point. And if I remember correctly oats had a few decent mafia games from time to time, no?


On October 11 2016 23:21 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 11 2016 23:15 marvellosity wrote:
just to be super clear: I'm not saying Oats is lock town because he has 7 pages of filter. Of course he is capable of that as mafia. But when I am very short of time, someone having 7 pages of filter when his last 5 games have 2-5 pages of filter as mafia is a helpful metric

Oats hasn't played in ages btw. so he might very well be more active as mafia.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 14:37 GMT
#3019
I'm finding it hard to explain.

But basically it's like you're doing it in a way that spreads paranoia and doubt about other people as opposed to countering the town-reads with actual logic.

Instead of saying "you make a point but how about XYZ post they made, does this change your view?" or something, you go "well his scum game COULD be more active" or "but it's Palmar, he can easily bullshit sounding like town". It's a bunch of abstract nonsense with no factual evidence attached to it.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 14:38 GMT
#3021
Didn't you just say that Scott, Marv, Palmar are the scum team, Koshi?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 14:41 GMT
#3026
Kindly walk through your thought process here, mate.

I for one do not think this is some elaborate distancing scheme.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 14:52 GMT
#3034
Question. Where is the scum motivation in the progression that you've outlined?

Reads like a bunch of egotistical circle-jerking around each other FMPOV.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 14:54 GMT
#3036
I personally think there is 0% chance of Scott/ Damdred being T/T, therefore lynching one of them is the superior option.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 11 2016 14:58 GMT
#3038
I'm skeptical because the main reason to scum-read Marv is because of his activity from what I've read.

And that has an explanation - he's busy.

So I'd hope that people would be able to see why I, as someone unused to the players here, would not want to lynch Marv based on his activity.

Right?
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