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On October 14 2016 03:46 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:44 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 03:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 14 2016 03:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 03:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 12 2016 06:18 Calix wrote:
It's impossible for there to be a world where Koshi/ NU are both town and town!JAT and town!Damdred switched away from town!Scott to lynch town!Palmar with THREE FUCKING MINUTES TO SPARE. jat jat jat jat jat It is getting boring. This post paints a scenario where scott is town AND damdred is town. Which is more or less impossible and which she did not believe in. At least 2 shenanny guys were town per default. Probably 3 in reality. So this isn't actually a point. You don't get irony, do you? She called you, Damdred and Scott SCUM. The town! was sarcasm. I promise y'all that jat's scum. Yes, I know that it is sarcasm. But read the entire post please. If scott is mafia then 2 people doing shenannigans are town at the very minimum. Which means saying anyone is automatically mafia for it is plain bullshit. In fact the most likely case is that whoever is the mafia between damdred and koshi joined while oats sat on his buddy scott. Yes, marv and Koshi are your "2 people".
Sure. If that is the case then I am #3 and damdred is mafia.
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On October 14 2016 03:48 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:46 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 03:43 Damdred wrote:
While I appreciate calix and her thoughts I don't think we should follow them 100% or we will lose.
In any regard what is the point of mafia!JAT taking suspicion off town!Marv like he did with the defense he made of,him?
The thing is that calix was almost certainly killed because she was the cop and in retrospect I have to say it was quite obvious with the way she treated marv while noone else was townreading him. I'm not questioning that... but how does it relate to the post you replied to?
It relates in the following way: Calix was not killed because of her reads, so yes, damdred is right in saying we should not depend on them too much.
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On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum.
You are twisting my words. I said marv will be killed IF he is town. Because mafia can't let a confirmed town live. I did NOT say that I consider marv confirmed town at that point.
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On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum.
Well, there a first time for everything. And considering your play I seriously doubt that this is true anyways unless the level of play on the site you are coming from is absolutely abysmal.
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Second post was to the last part obviously. Forgot to delete the rest in the quote.
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On October 14 2016 03:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:55 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum. Well, there a first time for everything. And considering your play I seriously doubt that this is true anyways unless the level of play on the site you are coming from is absolutely abysmal. You will flip scum.
Nope. Neither am I scum nor will I flip today.
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On October 14 2016 04:02 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum. You are twisting my words. I said marv will be killed IF he is town. Because mafia can't let a confirmed town live. I did NOT say that I consider marv confirmed town at that point. people do seem to misunderstand the term 'confirmed town'. confirmed means there doesn't exist a world where the player is mafia. so there is no 'if' marv is town. just a semantics point.
You are technically right. But I am sure you get what I mean.
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On October 14 2016 04:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 04:00 Damdred wrote:
Let's say this,
If marv is town and green checked, its to mafia!jat discretion to let more suspicion build up on marv and he doesn't have to waste a kill and let people think Marv is not dead why?
While he can still do that he's taken a lot of,pressure off marv now and most if not,all town read marv now. There is not much point to leaving marv alive now when he can just do what he wants.
If that makes sense, its sub optimal for jat to do what he did as scum. Not in possible but,just nit what I would expect him to do. for the sake of argument, there is +ev in a jat-mafia wanting to alleviate pressure temporarily, even if in the long run it doesn't pan out. maybe just long enough to get the mislynch needed? i think the nks implicate more than clear jat. that's something, especially later in the game. it's somewhat conjecture but it is something. i would actually have to read jat's filter before making a good stab at his alignment mind you. i just want to put it off. can anyone tell me if on day 2, there were other possible options other than Palmar before jat pushed Superbia? because pushing Superbia when palmar was on the table is a plus point for jat-town, all things considered
At the point that I made my case there was no alternative. People were voting me earlier but the wagon died way before that.
And I don't think the nightkills implicate me at all. Calix and Grack were most likely the mafia cop hunting.
And HF is actually a kill that would be really stupid for me to make. He was the only one in the game defending me from time to time.
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On October 14 2016 04:13 marvellosity wrote:
HF was neutral on you
looking at the vote thread you always had votes and they only really went away when the superbia thing came. guess i can't have that in your favour ^^
Yes, there were 2 votes who stayed on me but the thread sentiment changed much earlier as you would know if you had read it. The votes were afk Palmar and afk oats.
Yes, HF was neutral but still the only one defending me against calix for example.
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Noone of the thread leaders was scumreading me anymore when I started the push on superbia. I just thought he was the better lynch.
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You do realize that this is his only chance of surviving as mafia, do you? He saw marv get townread for a similar post and decided - let's try that. Why even bother posting this if he really doesn't care or "takes the ban"?
And if he is town and this is true we will lose anyways even if we do not lynch him today.
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If you are town, put your vote one me and go AWOL we will lose today.
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So don't you fucking dare.
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Evidently. I hope you manage catching up before deadline.
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I might have said some mean stuff about you in the mafia qt, nu. Don't take it to heart too much - I am a grumpy asshole when I am mafia. At least you care about the game.
Calix was very impressive.
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On October 15 2016 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
Boring.
On September 24 2016 19:41 Holyflare wrote:
This will be a game where either good people roll mafia and lose or bad people roll mafia and lose.
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On October 15 2016 06:07 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2016 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
I might have said some mean stuff about you in the mafia qt, nu. Don't take it to heart too much - I am a grumpy asshole when I am mafia. At least you care about the game.
Calix was very impressive. I expect the obs chat to be the same in regards to me. I played bad once again. What I said about calling someone "obvious X" stands true though. c:
You literally berated calix after the palmar lynch which she had no part in by bragging about your mafia pools that had every single townie in it.
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On October 15 2016 06:10 Shapelog wrote:
Yeah good scum play. Oats was Lock town till we know in Obs he was scum lol.
GG
I will never understand how ANYONE could have oats as lock town this game.
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