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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 17:30 GMT
#3454
But yeah, her vote being on scott is a pretty good argument against a damdred redcheck at the very least.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 17:49 GMT
#3460
On October 14 2016 02:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:18 Calix wrote:
So you are voting JAT based on pre-flip associations?

Wow.

yes

I know not everyone is this good.

throw me a bone here guys. One of you mention wanting to kill marv who:

a) voted a terrible lynch on day 1, where BOTH ME AND HF noticed bats saying shit that didn't sound like mafia. We both said so. Marv is even better than us two at this tonal townie thing, and he flat out ignored it.

b) he voted me on day 2, then became less convinced I was mafia because I don't sound like damn mafia because I'm not one, but instead of doing anything, he just... went afk

c) killed hf, which is the obvious marv kill when hf suspected him and everyone thought hf was town.

Someone please, put votes on him.

I'm moving my vote to marv, and I'm going to see what happens.

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 07:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
You seriously don't see how I would be hesitant to lynch him after what happened last game?
You seriously think I would defend marv instead of just straight up bussing him when he just completely bails out?

well show me.

He is 100% mafia this game, so all you have to do is go vote him.

There is no universe where this is town marv.

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 07:44 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:39 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:36 Calix wrote:
Okay Palmar, let us know when you have some A* contributions instead of trying to lynch an AFK player over yourself, using terrible reasoning everywhere and some whining about how bad everyone else is.

This here people is why we'll lose.

Remember in the post game, how stupid this post is.

ok bye.

What about it is stupid?
The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me.

Nothing on anyone else.

you know how I feel about everyone else

and I'm behind on the game.

NU can't concoct all this stupidity as scum so he's town
Calix is unnaturally bad, but still, sounded kinda sincere at points so town

Koshi, scott and damdred can fall either way. Koshi sounds slightly mafia and scott, maybe. Damdred sounds slightly town

marv is scum.

Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Superbia is gonna flip town.

Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote:
I don't even care about my cred anymore. If I'm fucking wrong I'll just accept it. I keep hedging (Iike calling superbia not the worst lynch out of spite for his lack of effort last night, I then turned around and said he was town, of course).

Calix is 100% town
NU is 100% town
Oats is 100% town

Grack is 80% town

Damdred is 50% town
Koshi is 50% town
Scott is 40% town

Jag is 5% town
Marv is 0% town

two free mafia. gg wp

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 02:02 Palmar wrote:
On October 10 2016 02:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I pretty much have to conclude that JAT is mafia at this point.

and marv

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote:
And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town?

You said the same thing about superbia

I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive.

I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv.

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 06:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 04:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar just told you "I will not care about this lynch at all and vote this guy who is definitely mafia even though I never justified why and never will while there is this other guy who I have actual reasons to scumread". Palmar is not this shit as town.

Lol


Palmar proposed the same scum-team as Damdred. And Palmar isn’t bad.

Jat’s proposed scum-team has Oats in it who is very likely town.

Marv has 1 scum-read and it’s not the one he is voting. He’s living off of a green-check.

Koshi and Oats are town. I am town. This train on Damdred contains at least one scum in it regardless of if they are bussing or pushing for their final ML.

I think Jat is scum everytime for, as Palmar said, being so blind and not noticing that bats, superbia, Oats and Palmar were tonally obvious town.
If he was not scum, he would be suspecting marv. But he is not. Either he is scum and marv is town or they are both scum.

Ok, I've had enough of this shit.

Why the fuck is oats town? Explain it to me.

I am mafia for not noticing bats is town? I WAS NOT AROUND.
For superbia? He played like shit/his mafia meta demonstrably. You even liked my case.
Oats isn't town.
Palmar was not obvious town. And marv was willing to lynch him which is usually a good argument for killing him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 17:52 GMT
#3465
On October 14 2016 02:51 Damdred wrote:
I am unsure btw for clarity sake that marv or jat is scum. I am more sure that Scott is and would,be the better solution to,give us more time to make sense,of,the jumble.

IF you are town then scott is definitely our lynch for today.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 17:54 GMT
#3468
On October 14 2016 02:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 02:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 14 2016 02:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:18 Calix wrote:
So you are voting JAT based on pre-flip associations?

Wow.

yes

I know not everyone is this good.

throw me a bone here guys. One of you mention wanting to kill marv who:

a) voted a terrible lynch on day 1, where BOTH ME AND HF noticed bats saying shit that didn't sound like mafia. We both said so. Marv is even better than us two at this tonal townie thing, and he flat out ignored it.

b) he voted me on day 2, then became less convinced I was mafia because I don't sound like damn mafia because I'm not one, but instead of doing anything, he just... went afk

c) killed hf, which is the obvious marv kill when hf suspected him and everyone thought hf was town.

Someone please, put votes on him.

I'm moving my vote to marv, and I'm going to see what happens.

On October 11 2016 07:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
You seriously don't see how I would be hesitant to lynch him after what happened last game?
You seriously think I would defend marv instead of just straight up bussing him when he just completely bails out?

well show me.

He is 100% mafia this game, so all you have to do is go vote him.

There is no universe where this is town marv.

On October 11 2016 07:44 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:39 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:36 Calix wrote:
Okay Palmar, let us know when you have some A* contributions instead of trying to lynch an AFK player over yourself, using terrible reasoning everywhere and some whining about how bad everyone else is.

This here people is why we'll lose.

Remember in the post game, how stupid this post is.

ok bye.

What about it is stupid?
The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me.

Nothing on anyone else.

you know how I feel about everyone else

and I'm behind on the game.

NU can't concoct all this stupidity as scum so he's town
Calix is unnaturally bad, but still, sounded kinda sincere at points so town

Koshi, scott and damdred can fall either way. Koshi sounds slightly mafia and scott, maybe. Damdred sounds slightly town

marv is scum.

On October 09 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Superbia is gonna flip town.

Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred

On October 10 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote:
I don't even care about my cred anymore. If I'm fucking wrong I'll just accept it. I keep hedging (Iike calling superbia not the worst lynch out of spite for his lack of effort last night, I then turned around and said he was town, of course).

Calix is 100% town
NU is 100% town
Oats is 100% town

Grack is 80% town

Damdred is 50% town
Koshi is 50% town
Scott is 40% town

Jag is 5% town
Marv is 0% town

two free mafia. gg wp

On October 10 2016 02:02 Palmar wrote:
On October 10 2016 02:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I pretty much have to conclude that JAT is mafia at this point.

and marv

On October 11 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote:
And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town?

You said the same thing about superbia

I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive.

I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv.

On October 11 2016 06:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 04:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar just told you "I will not care about this lynch at all and vote this guy who is definitely mafia even though I never justified why and never will while there is this other guy who I have actual reasons to scumread". Palmar is not this shit as town.

Lol


Palmar proposed the same scum-team as Damdred. And Palmar isn’t bad.

Jat’s proposed scum-team has Oats in it who is very likely town.

Marv has 1 scum-read and it’s not the one he is voting. He’s living off of a green-check.

Koshi and Oats are town. I am town. This train on Damdred contains at least one scum in it regardless of if they are bussing or pushing for their final ML.

I think Jat is scum everytime for, as Palmar said, being so blind and not noticing that bats, superbia, Oats and Palmar were tonally obvious town.
If he was not scum, he would be suspecting marv. But he is not. Either he is scum and marv is town or they are both scum.

Ok, I've had enough of this shit.

Why the fuck is oats town? Explain it to me.

I am mafia for not noticing bats is town? I WAS NOT AROUND.
For superbia? He played like shit/his mafia meta demonstrably. You even liked my case.
Oats isn't town.
Palmar was not obvious town. And marv was willing to lynch him which is usually a good argument for killing him.

He has a town tone and there is no evidence of him being mafia. You've had 92 hours to make a case on him since you scum-read him and have not yet done so.

Palmar was obvious town. Marv did not even scum-read Palmar when he voted for him, so that is invalid.

I gave you reasons ages ago. Does he look like he is trying to figure out the game to you? For the last days oats only came in to put his vote somewhere with no reasoning and vanished again. The guy is just bussing scott and content with it.

Not to mention that there is absolutely 0 evidence for me to be mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 17:56 GMT
#3471
On October 14 2016 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
p.s. jat (just read it in nu's post) - superbia wasn't playing to his mafia meta demonstrably, both hf and i commented that superbia was wittier than he normally is as mafia.

He was trying day1, yes. But he was playing his aggressive/whiny mafia style and you can't seriously tell me that his play after day did not look like mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:07 GMT
#3483
On October 14 2016 03:01 marvellosity wrote:
i also don't think (from a personal point of view) that you would even come close to think i am mafia right now due to

1. how easily you townread me at the beginning of the game
2. the fact that after i went afk i came back and have been playing (i don't do this as mafia)
3. due to 1&2, you should be townreading me for the same reasons
4. you also know that yolo lynching Palmar is so far away from my style as mafia
5. this dichotomy you've been pushing that one or the other of Palmar and me is mafia isn't logical.

none of these are convincing to anyone else particularly, but there we go

I even have a far better reason to townread you by now :D
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:07 GMT
#3486
On October 14 2016 03:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 03:01 marvellosity wrote:
i also don't think (from a personal point of view) that you would even come close to think i am mafia right now due to

1. how easily you townread me at the beginning of the game
2. the fact that after i went afk i came back and have been playing (i don't do this as mafia)
3. due to 1&2, you should be townreading me for the same reasons
4. you also know that yolo lynching Palmar is so far away from my style as mafia
5. this dichotomy you've been pushing that one or the other of Palmar and me is mafia isn't logical.

none of these are convincing to anyone else particularly, but there we go

Can someone confirm 2 and 3?

If he disappears as mafia he usually does not return, yes.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:09 GMT
#3490
On October 14 2016 03:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:
No, Damd, I still think you've been red-checked.

There's no evidence for you to be town: your defense vs me and Cal was very poor, your votes were bad, and you bread crumbed that you had been red-checked.

He "crumbed" the check? Where is the mafia motivation here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:11 GMT
#3492
Or is your point just the guilty conscience? THat makes more sense.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:14 GMT
#3497
On October 14 2016 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 14 2016 03:01 marvellosity wrote:
i also don't think (from a personal point of view) that you would even come close to think i am mafia right now due to

1. how easily you townread me at the beginning of the game
2. the fact that after i went afk i came back and have been playing (i don't do this as mafia)
3. due to 1&2, you should be townreading me for the same reasons
4. you also know that yolo lynching Palmar is so far away from my style as mafia
5. this dichotomy you've been pushing that one or the other of Palmar and me is mafia isn't logical.

none of these are convincing to anyone else particularly, but there we go

I even have a far better reason to townread you by now :D

if it's the green check that's so boring

No, it is better.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:16 GMT
#3500
On October 14 2016 03:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 14 2016 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 14 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 14 2016 03:01 marvellosity wrote:
i also don't think (from a personal point of view) that you would even come close to think i am mafia right now due to

1. how easily you townread me at the beginning of the game
2. the fact that after i went afk i came back and have been playing (i don't do this as mafia)
3. due to 1&2, you should be townreading me for the same reasons
4. you also know that yolo lynching Palmar is so far away from my style as mafia
5. this dichotomy you've been pushing that one or the other of Palmar and me is mafia isn't logical.

none of these are convincing to anyone else particularly, but there we go

I even have a far better reason to townread you by now :D

if it's the green check that's so boring

No, it is better.

go on then

I think I know you well enough to say that you would probably never make this post as mafia:
On October 13 2016 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 23:23 Damdred wrote:
On October 13 2016 23:20 marvellosity wrote:
##vote damdred

whatever. we have to vote together anyway.


Man I am town marv, you doing this totally is dumb as jat and nu can be scum in this situation. Scott will hammer etc etc

i'm beyond caring.

i already toyed with the idea of posting my role PM in the game on the basis i'll have sat out as many games as i need to before i want to play again.

Shitty way of reading people but it is what it is.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:21 GMT
#3504
On October 14 2016 03:19 Damdred wrote:
So here's the question could koshi or nu be playing the most awesome game as scum so far?

If you are town then it has to be the case. But I am not convinced.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:22 GMT
#3507
On October 14 2016 03:21 marvellosity wrote:
certainly 1 person (at least) is playing a very excellent scumgame. kinda hoping we manage to lynch the other 2 and then 3 way lylo is like a whole different game (if town play it right)

Or it is just oats/damdred/scott.
It would be too good to be true but it really looks to me that way.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:24 GMT
#3510
On October 14 2016 03:22 marvellosity wrote:
in all seriousness - why did Grackaroni die?

personally as mafia (in my first 2 years of playing when i was actually amazing at scum) i would sometimes kill unexpected targets so that later in the game it would be less surprising that i was alive. i'd say there's a good chance that's the case here (not that you didn't deserve to be nk or anything Grack <3)

I would guess that they were cop hunting.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:28 GMT
#3514
On October 14 2016 03:24 Damdred wrote:
I mean

Scitt/oats/Koshi is an interesting scum team idea but why would either oats or,koshi not,vote me in,that situation to win the game unless they are sure I can't proove I'm town.

It Justinian logical. Well unless thatvisnt care about another cycle or Scott is town.

They could be playing the long game. Like I mentioned multiple times - I don't think anyone who is mafia with scott in this game would not be ready to bus him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:28 GMT
#3515
I mean they can still switch at deadline.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:31 GMT
#3518
Damdred, my vote is not set in stone. If you keep playing the game and seem towny I will act accordingly. Don't worry about that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:41 GMT
#3524
On October 14 2016 03:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 06:18 Calix wrote:
It's impossible for there to be a world where Koshi/ NU are both town and town!JAT and town!Damdred switched away from town!Scott to lynch town!Palmar with THREE FUCKING MINUTES TO SPARE.

jat jat jat jat jat

It is getting boring. This post paints a scenario where scott is town AND damdred is town. Which is more or less impossible and which she did not believe in. At least 2 shenanny guys were town per default. Probably 3 in reality.
So this isn't actually a point.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:44 GMT
#3528
On October 14 2016 03:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 03:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 14 2016 03:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 12 2016 06:18 Calix wrote:
It's impossible for there to be a world where Koshi/ NU are both town and town!JAT and town!Damdred switched away from town!Scott to lynch town!Palmar with THREE FUCKING MINUTES TO SPARE.

jat jat jat jat jat

It is getting boring. This post paints a scenario where scott is town AND damdred is town. Which is more or less impossible and which she did not believe in. At least 2 shenanny guys were town per default. Probably 3 in reality.
So this isn't actually a point.

You don't get irony, do you?

She called you, Damdred and Scott SCUM. The town! was sarcasm.

I promise y'all that jat's scum.

Yes, I know that it is sarcasm. But read the entire post please.

If scott is mafia then 2 people doing shenannigans are town at the very minimum. Which means saying anyone is automatically mafia for it is plain bullshit. In fact the most likely case is that whoever is the mafia between damdred and koshi joined while oats sat on his buddy scott.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 13 2016 18:46 GMT
#3531
On October 14 2016 03:43 Damdred wrote:
While I appreciate calix and her thoughts I don't think we should follow them 100% or we will lose.

In any regard what is the point of mafia!JAT taking suspicion off town!Marv like he did with the defense he made of,him?

The thing is that calix was almost certainly killed because she was the cop and in retrospect I have to say it was quite obvious with the way she treated marv while noone else was townreading him.
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