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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:17 GMT
#3096
On October 12 2016 05:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:06 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:04 Calix wrote:
While I am dubious about the lack of resistance, how exactly does someone defend Scott?

exactly, you don't.

if scott is town, mafia is happy with the lynch.

if scott is mafia, he may as well get lynched now (from mafia's perspective) as pushing against the lynch would look odd.

unfortunately that makes wagonomics kinda useless for today

This is true regardless og marvs alignment

I am glad you shared this valuable piece of information...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:18 GMT
#3100
On October 12 2016 05:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:
It's no different from lunatic from last game.

hm?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:24 GMT
#3106
On October 12 2016 05:22 Calix wrote:
Who would the high-volume poster be in your opinion?

Good question. I don't really see anyone but palmar.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:25 GMT
#3107
On October 12 2016 05:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:22 Calix wrote:
Who would the high-volume poster be in your opinion?

i genuinely couldn't say. there's just too many pages of filter for me to have waded through to even have an opinion.

for example i literally have no idea how the superbia lynch happened. i'm lacking a huge amount of information.

i did have koshi's filter open not long ago because it seemed kinda accessible and i didn't really think it was him.

The superbia lynch happened because I made a case on him and pushed it. Palmar was the alternative.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:39 GMT
#3117
On October 12 2016 05:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Last game, scott claimed before he had to leave. I dont think hes cop, so we're fine.

If he is town we are in triple LYLO. I wouldn't call that fine.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:44 GMT
#3126
Palmar also came in to literally just post this unnecessary analysis about marvs wagon analysis?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:49 GMT
#3132
On October 12 2016 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:46 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:44 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:42 Koshi wrote:
Marv walks in after 2 days being awol and gets 0 pressure. Throws a fish towards damdred, throws 2 fishes towards scott and you take the bait and lynch scott.

you're not pressuring me either, you're bitching. pressure away my dear.

I did. And concluded you are mafia.

you never pressured me. you may have concluded i was mafia at some point (like i very accurately predicted) but it wasn't the product of pressure.

Yes it was. I asked you to read Palmar. You said "he could be town or mafia" and didn't come back to it till now.

Scumclaim right there.

don't be silly. as mafia i can just choose a stance.

I don't know about that. If you call him mafia we are definitely lynching between the 2 of you. If you call him town confidently you will always get lynched before him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:50 GMT
#3138
On October 12 2016 05:49 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:46 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:44 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:42 Koshi wrote:
Marv walks in after 2 days being awol and gets 0 pressure. Throws a fish towards damdred, throws 2 fishes towards scott and you take the bait and lynch scott.

you're not pressuring me either, you're bitching. pressure away my dear.

I did. And concluded you are mafia.

you never pressured me. you may have concluded i was mafia at some point (like i very accurately predicted) but it wasn't the product of pressure.

Yes it was. I asked you to read Palmar. You said "he could be town or mafia" and didn't come back to it till now.

Scumclaim right there.

don't be silly. as mafia i can just choose a stance.

I don't know about that. If you call him mafia we are definitely lynching between the 2 of you. If you call him town confidently you will always get lynched before him.

why is that true?

Because you cannot be wrong if you are confident in him being town?! You can only be mafia lying.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:51 GMT
#3144
On October 12 2016 05:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:45 Calix wrote:
Because his whining sounded townie?

lol. No words. Just no words.

Palmar actually knows how the game works. He actually can post thoughts on why people are mafia.

Palmar scumread JAT the entire game. Give me 1 reason why he thought JAT was mafia.

Palmar can influence a lynch by posting. He posted this game, he didn't influence shit.

Palmar was the full town counterwagon to mafia filled town lynch.

^ one of the reasons i'm not confident?

i really dislike being wrong and i especially would dislike being wrong about palmar so i'm hedging like fuck because i'm not sure.

Great.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:54 GMT
#3147
On October 12 2016 05:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:51 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:45 Calix wrote:
Because his whining sounded townie?

lol. No words. Just no words.

Palmar actually knows how the game works. He actually can post thoughts on why people are mafia.

Palmar scumread JAT the entire game. Give me 1 reason why he thought JAT was mafia.

Palmar can influence a lynch by posting. He posted this game, he didn't influence shit.

Palmar was the full town counterwagon to mafia filled town lynch.

^ one of the reasons i'm not confident?

i really dislike being wrong and i especially would dislike being wrong about palmar so i'm hedging like fuck because i'm not sure.

Great.

Like, figuring palmar out was basically your only job today.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:55 GMT
#3155
ALso willing to kill Palmar. Koshi is like 100 % town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:57 GMT
#3158
DO it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 20:59 GMT
#3168
On October 12 2016 05:57 marvellosity wrote:
like if he's mafia, great.

if he's town, we lose because i'm gonna get lynched inevitably.

but even if scott is mafia we are probably in the same position tomorrow. and i'm probably never going to catch up on the whole game.

Yeah, exactly.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 21:05 GMT
#3178
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 11 2016 21:17 GMT
#3187
On October 12 2016 06:15 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 06:11 Calix wrote:
In any case, I think the scum will win. We're stuck in triple LYLO now, no way do we get out of that one.

Even when you had Scott on the line, the other scum will just switch votes at the last minute.

What does this mean?


Scott is scum.

There is scum among JAT/ Damdred/ you because you three caused Palmar to die over Scott.

Simple stuff.

It's also entirely possible that we just did mafias work for them while they were content bussing scott. It could be scott, oats + one of marv/damdred.
Depressing game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 12 2016 09:09 GMT
#3281
Anyone who goes into triple LYLO after only townies were lynched all game with the attitude of "this is the exact scumteam" is really really stupid and naive. Especially if you are basing this on your POE list you had for half of the game.
If I am still alive tomorrow I will start again from scratch. Hopefully the nightkill + cop claim will shed some light on the actual situation in this game. And yes, the cop needs to claim eon. It is too dangerous to gamble on mafia not shooting you.

Right now I think it is probably scott + oats + one of damdred/marv but I will certainly not rule out the possibility of one of calix/koshi to have played a really good scumgame.

The supposed scumteam you guys (nu/calix) are suggesting makes no fucking sense upon further inspection. What you are saying is essentially that damdred and I threw the game yesterday in order to achieve what exactly? A single mislynch on Palmar?
Why would we EVER not bus scott there? Sure, one more mislynch is nice but we look like utter shit in LYLO and will probably lose. And scott would be lost no matter what. That's not how I play. I bus deadweight teammembers hard and I definitely know better than to throw the game in order to save them. You guys are looking for reasons why people aren't in a team with scott? How about you look at night1 where I call a vigshot on that guy multiple times and never waver. You think I would let him die for free but not bus him during the dayphase? No, no, no.

The reality is that I am not mafia and that mafia are probably not retarded like that. They need to have a backup plan for LYLO IF they save scott. The damdred/me team does not have that.
I think it is way more likely that mafias general plan was to bus scott yesterday and win the game after that. We just made it easier for them with our shennanies which were predominantly town driven. If scott is mafia then AT LEAST 2/4 people "CFDing" him yesterday still have to be town.
I think mafia was about to lazily bus scott. Oats fits the bill there, combined with his general play he is the one I am the most sure on right now besides scott. Then the last one seized the opportunity to shenanny (one of marv/damdred/koshi).
If oats is mafia everything makes sense because he is a real endgame solution for them. As opposed to damdred or me.

It will be really fucking annoying to deal with the rampant confirmation bias in this game but I will not lose this game by letting myself be mislynched in LYLO. Every single townie HAS to vote for mafia tomorrow in order to even have the slightest chance of winning and I am not scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 12 2016 09:24 GMT
#3282
I don't know how active I can be today. It is wednesday after all. Will definitely not be around for the deadline.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 12 2016 11:42 GMT
#3287
On October 12 2016 20:37 NeverUnlucky wrote:
"Anyone who goes into triple LYLO after only townies were lynched all game with the attitude of "this is the exact scumteam" is really really stupid and naive. "

So be it. I'm not budging.

Call me surprised.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 12 2016 11:54 GMT
#3288
On October 12 2016 20:23 Koshi wrote:
I don't see JAT be mafia. But I liked the second point nu made in his case. That further than the initial response to the mls and nks JAT never instantly made a fresh assumption based on the new evidence. If it is true, that is a really good point.

This isn't his point btw. since I actually did that multiple times. He thinks that the quoted posts are forced and that's more or less it. He doesn't have any actual reason to scumread me besides "tone". That hasn't changed all game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
October 12 2016 14:33 GMT
#3293
On October 12 2016 23:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
"The supposed scumteam you guys (nu/calix) are suggesting makes no fucking sense upon further inspection. What you are saying is essentially that damdred and I threw the game yesterday in order to achieve what exactly? A single mislynch on Palmar?
Why would we EVER not bus scott there? Sure, one more mislynch is nice but we look like utter shit in LYLO and will probably lose."

^Says that scum not bussing scott is throwing the game...

"The reality is that I am not mafia and that mafia are probably not retarded like that. They need to have a backup plan for LYLO IF they save scott. The damdred/me team does not have that.
I think it is way more likely that mafias general plan was to bus scott yesterday and win the game after that. We just made it easier for them with our shennanies which were predominantly town driven. If scott is mafia then AT LEAST 2/4 people "CFDing" him yesterday still have to be town."

^Says that scum did in fact ending up not bussing Scott.

Are you illiterate or something?

The first one is correct even though I am talking about a theoretical team of me/damdred/scott.

The second one is entirely incorrect. I am in fact saying that the actual mafia team DID bus scott. Sure, one of them might have hopped on the palmar train in the end because why not if town is pushing a mislynch for you? But the plan was to bus.
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