EPTTaking this with a landfill of salt at the moment, but if you are claiming to be using a truth tell then your play is even worse than I thought it was. That is the literal definition of using a shortcut and is a horrible defense.
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Taking this with a landfill of salt at the moment, but if you are claiming to be using a truth tell then your play is even worse than I thought it was. That is the literal definition of using a shortcut and is a horrible defense. | ||
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NU still not trying to do anything and just waffles on about some semi-related bullshit. Noted. Going to disappear until someone relevant turns up. | ||
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On October 04 2016 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote: I really don't like what calix is trying to push here. Sure what nu is doing is super bad play and from first glance it looks scummy but it's not actually scummy. Why would scum post that he can be modconfirmed town? That makes 0 sense. And now she's trying to push some stupid Lynch based on content but no one has done shit anyway. Fake activity How does one 'fake' activity? Either I am posting or I am not posting and it doesn't indicate jack shit about my alignment. I think the reason people are not following me is because they're not that familiar with NU. (aka, meta) He is prone to coming up with stupid plans/ gambits - him trying to get around the rules is NAI taken by itself because it's a part of how he plays. (I don't think it's noteworthy that anyone on this site reads it as townie as people play more conservatively here compared to our home site and thus are reading his actions from that mindset) When I first saw that post, I just laughed it off. Grack's comment made me reread and see how terrible it was as an entrance so I decided to push it. What I don't like is how his very first focus is on promoting himself as town using external factors. While saying "I can be mod-confirmed" is NAI by itself for him, his later posts make me think he is looking for a fallback in case he's called out for his sub-par posting. Look at his responses to me. They are underwhelming for him. Nothing substantial, just some self-aggrandizing comments, downplays my push on him, snark, bluffing about being town. (last two points come across as forced) If he steps it up then I'll reconsider but right now, I really do not like him and think everyone should read his filter with this in mind. I don't want people giving him a free pass for something which is not - in my opinion - out of his scum range. On October 04 2016 18:34 justanothertownie wrote: I will have to refamiliarize myself with Stutters meta but so far he seems the scummiest to me. His filter consists exclusively of questions that lead nowhere and aren't followed up upon. Totally disconnected from the thread. He was pretty lurkish, unresponsive and making terrible posts in the last game we were in and he was town so not sure how AI that is for him. Will keep your point in mind though. | ||
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Unless you're saying that you're not reading it. | ||
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Being skeptical of something that he obviously cannot follow through with does not make me mafia. | ||
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On October 04 2016 19:37 Holyflare wrote: It's also 40 minutes between your post and the latest one before that so not receiving a response from people with full time jobs and activity excuses within 20 minutes of your last post seems to be smearing people for no other reason than to look like you are giving more contributions than in fact you are. How was I 'smearing' anyone or even pretending to contribute with that post you refer to? I was annoyed that nobody had responded given that there was a burst of activity shortly before I logged online. This post is a massive reach, HF. | ||
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You haven't responded to any of my points, lol. | ||
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Like I said, I don't blame anyone for not knowing this. Tell me when you read his posts outside of that role PM thing and get back to me. | ||
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On October 04 2016 19:56 Holyflare wrote: I haven't read your points and I likely never will. You said he does this play on your site and it's his mafia meta to do so. Prove he does or die. Actually I said "He is prone to coming up with stupid plans/ gambits - him trying to get around the rules is NAI taken by itself because it's a part of how he plays." Nowhere did I say "he has tried fucking around with role PMs before" or "he only does stupid shit as mafia" | ||
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You must have read my long posts otherwise you wouldn't have found that comment and misrepresented my position like that. | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:07 Holyflare wrote: No, it's bull shit. He either has done a play like this or you think he's town. Mafia don't know or can't know there's words or anything in a pm or whatever that can prove you're town. NU makes a play like that. Either he's done something similar in a previous game or something like this where he's abused knowledge he can't have and he's been mafia or he's flat out town. Koshi has said something else that's "validated" the wording point too. Your push is completely bull shit. Role PMs are on the first page, so surely the mafia know what they are? In case I wasn't being clear, no, he has not tried abusing role PMs in a previous game. Which I never said to begin with since I said that he's done stupid shit before. (when I said that, I was mainly referring to a game where he fake-claimed Friendly Neighbour as mafia + a couple of comments he's made before which made me think he would try something like this since the host can't confirm) Your most valid point is that Koshi is backing him up, so I am probably wrong here. Since this is now the only thing happening, you should still keep pushing me about something non-PM related so that we have something to talk about. tl;dr: I didn't think that through but I realise that looks like a cop-out so there's not much I can do there. | ||
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(for example, he scum-hunts a lot via 'scum slips' - a look at his first game on here shows that) And I didn't think the host would confirm it (obviously) so with that in mind alongside the fact that posting PMs is obviously against the rules, I found it questionable. | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:36 marvellosity wrote: no, i get that, but to vote him you have to think he does that as mafia otherwise you would also find it townie, hence the baying mob asking for you to provide an example of him doing such a thing as mafia. It doesn't have to be exactly that even, but if you can provide an example of him doing something weird to try to confirm himself when he's mafia, that would be lovely. if you can't, you should be able to see why hf and whoever else is getting on your bum, it's just logic Yeah that's what I said earlier. I'd be doing exactly the same thing. Like I had an example in mind (as said earlier) when making my earlier posts but that doesn't match the "confirm self as mafia" thing that's being asked for. | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:38 justanothertownie wrote: Is this actually a thing? Calix? Because then your approach is indeed hard to understand. Yes, he's been lynched first in both of his mafia games. | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:41 marvellosity wrote: you may as well provide it for the sake of completeness :p tbh i don't think your vote on him looks very good, but on the other hand I know it's very easy to have your own thoughts and make sweeping statements about players you know without being able to back it up very well. I did. I said that he claimed Friendly Neighbour as scum in his last game. (which I now realise is a bad example due to different contexts of the claim - he didn't claim it at the start of that game) This isn't that bad. It means people are doing something so I don't mind. | ||
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(plus the general points being made > talking about the players) | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:44 NeverUnlucky wrote: I see what you did with my name, lul. I'm concerned that Calix didn't question my BS confirm. She just went along with it and called me bad. Wait what? | ||
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