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On October 14 2016 02:49 Damdred wrote:
That doesn't even make sense with what I said marv, I said you don't believe in a red check and neither do I. Your reaction to go against it being a red check,and voting for me is scummy as it doesn't make sense especially when we have Scott who you think is scum.
it makes absolute sense. i have to consolidate my votes with town. and unfortunately nu is really very likely to be town.
you should recognise that.
you should also understand my posts. many many many times in the past have i bemoaned that i 'hope' someone i think is playing terribly is mafia. you should know that.
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p.s. jat (just read it in nu's post) - superbia wasn't playing to his mafia meta demonstrably, both hf and i commented that superbia was wittier than he normally is as mafia.
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On October 14 2016 02:54 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:52 marvellosity wrote:On October 14 2016 02:49 Damdred wrote:
That doesn't even make sense with what I said marv, I said you don't believe in a red check and neither do I. Your reaction to go against it being a red check,and voting for me is scummy as it doesn't make sense especially when we have Scott who you think is scum. it makes absolute sense. i have to consolidate my votes with town. and unfortunately nu is really very likely to be town. you should recognise that. you should also understand my posts. many many many times in the past have i bemoaned that i 'hope' someone i think is playing terribly is mafia. you should know that. Koshi is the most likely to be town in this situation even outside nu wouldn't you agree?
okay, but koshi wasn't here so your point is literally 100% invalid
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On October 14 2016 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
p.s. jat (just read it in nu's post) - superbia wasn't playing to his mafia meta demonstrably, both hf and i commented that superbia was wittier than he normally is as mafia. He was trying day1, yes. But he was playing his aggressive/whiny mafia style and you can't seriously tell me that his play after day did not look like mafia.
given i've not read a huge amount of day 2 - no, i cannot seriously tell you that 
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On October 14 2016 02:56 Damdred wrote:
I hit enter a bit early as usual.
And I understand that you have to vote with town but the angle nu was pushing is not good. And it seems like he is even not quite believing a red check now maybe?
In either case I do understand that, but take a look from my view point. What's more likely (if you know that you are town) are scum more likely to pile on when a town is wrong or vote on a scum buddy.
your viewpoint is scum's viewpoint though
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i also don't think (from a personal point of view) that you would even come close to think i am mafia right now due to
1. how easily you townread me at the beginning of the game
2. the fact that after i went afk i came back and have been playing (i don't do this as mafia)
3. due to 1&2, you should be townreading me for the same reasons
4. you also know that yolo lynching Palmar is so far away from my style as mafia
5. this dichotomy you've been pushing that one or the other of Palmar and me is mafia isn't logical.
none of these are convincing to anyone else particularly, but there we go
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for the record i would lynch damdred above scott all day today.
but i can't really see how we're going to avoid lynching scott for 3 successive lynches, so *shrug*
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On October 14 2016 03:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:
No, Damd, I still think you've been red-checked.
There's no evidence for you to be town: your defense vs me and Cal was very poor, your votes were bad, and you bread crumbed that you had been red-checked.
did i miss something?
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[QUOTE]On October 14 2016 03:07 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 14 2016 03:05 marvellosity wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 14 2016 03:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:
No, Damd, I still think you've been red-checked.
There's no evidence for you to be town: your defense vs me and Cal was very poor, your votes were bad, and you bread crumbed that you had been red-checked.[/QUOTE]
did i miss something?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On October 13 2016 23:51 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 12 2016 08:24 Damdred wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 12 2016 08:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 12 2016 08:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Seriously, dude, you're in the PoE pool. If you're town you know 100% who is the scum unless you can prove to me why Koshi would be scum. [/QUOTE]
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Thats just dumb because even if i discount oats I have two people I think coudl be scum in the third position. Calix is just acting to sure of herself at this point to be town unless shes cop with a red check with me. We are in triple lylo you can't go into that with your thoughts set in stone.
Its dumb and loses you the game.[/QUOTE]
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ha! not quite the same but i get why you wrote it ^^
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On October 14 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:01 marvellosity wrote:
i also don't think (from a personal point of view) that you would even come close to think i am mafia right now due to
1. how easily you townread me at the beginning of the game
2. the fact that after i went afk i came back and have been playing (i don't do this as mafia)
3. due to 1&2, you should be townreading me for the same reasons
4. you also know that yolo lynching Palmar is so far away from my style as mafia
5. this dichotomy you've been pushing that one or the other of Palmar and me is mafia isn't logical.
none of these are convincing to anyone else particularly, but there we go I even have a far better reason to townread you by now :D
if it's the green check that's so boring 
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On October 14 2016 03:13 Damdred wrote:
Marv is right and truthful the only time lately he's went hard is when we road him to it (he played so well that game much love)
i had good company
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On October 14 2016 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 14 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 03:01 marvellosity wrote:
i also don't think (from a personal point of view) that you would even come close to think i am mafia right now due to
1. how easily you townread me at the beginning of the game
2. the fact that after i went afk i came back and have been playing (i don't do this as mafia)
3. due to 1&2, you should be townreading me for the same reasons
4. you also know that yolo lynching Palmar is so far away from my style as mafia
5. this dichotomy you've been pushing that one or the other of Palmar and me is mafia isn't logical.
none of these are convincing to anyone else particularly, but there we go I even have a far better reason to townread you by now :D if it's the green check that's so boring No, it is better.
go on then
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oh yeah. that is valid. not that i'd want anyone else to townread me for the same reason.
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certainly 1 person (at least) is playing a very excellent scumgame. kinda hoping we manage to lynch the other 2 and then 3 way lylo is like a whole different game (if town play it right)
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in all seriousness - why did Grackaroni die?
personally as mafia (in my first 2 years of playing when i was actually amazing at scum) i would sometimes kill unexpected targets so that later in the game it would be less surprising that i was alive. i'd say there's a good chance that's the case here (not that you didn't deserve to be nk or anything Grack <3)
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On October 14 2016 03:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:21 marvellosity wrote:
certainly 1 person (at least) is playing a very excellent scumgame. kinda hoping we manage to lynch the other 2 and then 3 way lylo is like a whole different game (if town play it right) That person is Jat.
well, let's say for the sake of argument that it is.
1. hopefully we lynch 1 or 2 mafia first
2. hopefully i will be dead (hopefully not connected to 1  )
3. should i be alive, i will definitely be strongly considering jat as mafia if he is alive (much as i'd expect anyone to strongly consider me in that situation too)
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On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum.
even if you're right, today wouldn't be the day for it
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On October 14 2016 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum. You are twisting my words. I said marv will be killed IF he is town. Because mafia can't let a confirmed town live. I did NOT say that I consider marv confirmed town at that point.
people do seem to misunderstand the term 'confirmed town'. confirmed means there doesn't exist a world where the player is mafia. so there is no 'if' marv is town. just a semantics point.
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