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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2016 10:35 GMT
#201
Point out to me where he does this on your site and tries to abuse role pms to get mod confirmed and I'll believe you.

Otherwise you are madia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2016 10:37 GMT
#202
It's also 40 minutes between your post and the latest one before that so not receiving a response from people with full time jobs and activity excuses within 20 minutes of your last post seems to be smearing people for no other reason than to look like you are giving more contributions than in fact you are.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 10:38 GMT
#203
It literally says "no posting PMs from the host" - it's clear that it's against the rules. (it's also a common rule on the home site, it's not like he got mixed up there)

Being skeptical of something that he obviously cannot follow through with does not make me mafia.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 10:40 GMT
#204
On October 04 2016 19:37 Holyflare wrote:
It's also 40 minutes between your post and the latest one before that so not receiving a response from people with full time jobs and activity excuses within 20 minutes of your last post seems to be smearing people for no other reason than to look like you are giving more contributions than in fact you are.


How was I 'smearing' anyone or even pretending to contribute with that post you refer to?

I was annoyed that nobody had responded given that there was a burst of activity shortly before I logged online.

This post is a massive reach, HF.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2016 10:51 GMT
#205
On October 04 2016 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
Point out to me where he does this on your site and tries to abuse role pms to get mod confirmed and I'll believe you.

Otherwise you are madia.

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 10:53 GMT
#206
On October 04 2016 19:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
Point out to me where he does this on your site and tries to abuse role pms to get mod confirmed and I'll believe you.

Otherwise you are madia.



You haven't responded to any of my points, lol.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2016 10:55 GMT
#207
Simply, I find it quite hilarious that someone that proposes they can read NU so well and he's the easiest mafia in the world to spot and that he gets lynched every game day 1 as mafia is trying to shit all over NU this early instead of seeing whether he follows this obvious pattern of play.

If it's a rule on your site he knows not to abuse it. It's also a rule here, why does he choose to do something that skates the rules so blatantly? He either has the role pm wording issues that he thought he could post and skirt the rules or he's lying and mafia.

I'm going to ignore it like koshi said but it's there and it's bad that you're pushing it when it's most likely a town inquisitive post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2016 10:56 GMT
#208
I haven't read your points and I likely never will.

You said he does this play on your site and it's his mafia meta to do so.

Prove he does or die.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2016 10:58 GMT
#209
It's the simplest thing in the world to prove too. Replying tp your post is irrelevant as this exercise would quite easily get me to see your point of view and reread your post and NU.

Don't dodge it please, chop chop.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 10:58 GMT
#210
'He knows not to abuse it' - Hilarious, given that he's flaunted the rules on several occasions prior.

Like I said, I don't blame anyone for not knowing this.

Tell me when you read his posts outside of that role PM thing and get back to me.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 11:01 GMT
#211
On October 04 2016 19:56 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't read your points and I likely never will.

You said he does this play on your site and it's his mafia meta to do so.

Prove he does or die.


Actually I said "He is prone to coming up with stupid plans/ gambits - him trying to get around the rules is NAI taken by itself because it's a part of how he plays."

Nowhere did I say "he has tried fucking around with role PMs before" or "he only does stupid shit as mafia"
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 11:02 GMT
#212
Your reading comprehension is exceptionally poor today, mate.

You must have read my long posts otherwise you wouldn't have found that comment and misrepresented my position like that.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 11:04 GMT
#213
Just proof that he has done it in the past.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2016 11:07 GMT
#214
No, it's bull shit. He either has done a play like this or you think he's town.

Mafia don't know or can't know there's words or anything in a pm or whatever that can prove you're town. NU makes a play like that.

Either he's done something similar in a previous game or something like this where he's abused knowledge he can't have and he's been mafia or he's flat out town. Koshi has said something else that's "validated" the wording point too.

Your push is completely bull shit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2016 11:08 GMT
#215
On October 04 2016 20:04 Koshi wrote:
Just proof that he has done it in the past.


ANYTHING similar will do even.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 04 2016 11:08 GMT
#216
My last post is the last time I ever mention pms. I feel disgusting lynching mafia calix with something like that.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 04 2016 11:18 GMT
#217
lets see if this makes sense

Town Calix thinks Mafia NU is trying to abuse game mechanics to create town cred to fall back on in case Mafia NU is called out in the future for sub par posting.

yeah idk unless NU has a history of doing this specifically as Mafia (Calix already said NU doesn't do this specifically as Mafia) I don't know why anyone would thinm that what NU did was scummy

So pretty much what holyflare said. Although getting Calix to "prove it or die" seems a little dramatic all the info is already there
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2016 11:23 GMT
#218
On October 04 2016 20:02 Calix wrote:
Your reading comprehension is exceptionally poor today, mate.

You must have read my long posts otherwise you wouldn't have found that comment and misrepresented my position like that.

The idea is (and it took me way too long): nu (he directly asked to be called nu, everyone do it) did something that on the surface is townie behaviour - drawing attention to self / dumb plan type idea - but you voted for him.

So the question is, why didn't you also find it somewhat townie behaviour, and the only answer is that you have meta that he does such things as mafia. So if you could provide an example of nu trying funky things right at the start of the game as mafia, you might save yourself a lot of hassle.

just a suggestion
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 11:23 GMT
#219
On October 04 2016 20:07 Holyflare wrote:
No, it's bull shit. He either has done a play like this or you think he's town.

Mafia don't know or can't know there's words or anything in a pm or whatever that can prove you're town. NU makes a play like that.

Either he's done something similar in a previous game or something like this where he's abused knowledge he can't have and he's been mafia or he's flat out town. Koshi has said something else that's "validated" the wording point too.

Your push is completely bull shit.


Role PMs are on the first page, so surely the mafia know what they are?

In case I wasn't being clear, no, he has not tried abusing role PMs in a previous game. Which I never said to begin with since I said that he's done stupid shit before.

(when I said that, I was mainly referring to a game where he fake-claimed Friendly Neighbour as mafia + a couple of comments he's made before which made me think he would try something like this since the host can't confirm)

Your most valid point is that Koshi is backing him up, so I am probably wrong here.

Since this is now the only thing happening, you should still keep pushing me about something non-PM related so that we have something to talk about.

tl;dr: I didn't think that through but I realise that looks like a cop-out so there's not much I can do there.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2016 11:24 GMT
#220
whatever bats, go pee yourself
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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