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NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 21:36 GMT
#1753
On October 07 2016 06:28 Calix wrote:
NU, did you ever explain why you voted for someone you didn't scum-read yesterday?


Maybe. Can't recall.

My vote on HF was useless as I was the only one to vote him at the time. I was considering voting either Bats or Plamar (I sr neither).

Batsnacks' defense was utter shit, and I thought he scumclaimed when he voted HF and said something like, "Might as well have fun while I can." I would expect this to be something scum would say when they're on the verge of being lynched (like me in superstitious), not a town. Town should give out the final reads they have which he did not do.

That was what made me vote him. Obv. with hindisght bias I now think voting Plamar was the better option there as he is playing exactly like in hm3.

On October 07 2016 06:20 Calix wrote:
But yeah, my play this game is reminding me of other games I've had where I was totally wrong and was basically honorary mafia by pushing mislynches all game long so I'm just going to take a step back now BEFORE I reach that point.

##vote Palmar


Don't say I did not try to prevent that.

Also, when you type my initials, how do you read my name? ie "[NeverUnlucky], did you..." or "[En-you], did you..."
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 21:38 GMT
#1754
You have this annoying habit of not listening to others who say that the lynch you are leading is a ML. Please try listening to your trs in the future.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 21:40 GMT
#1756
To add to marv's points on Plam - Plamar said that I should have been modkilled day 1 for trying to abuse the game mechanics. This would only favor mafia.

That's his one post that made me think he is mafia.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 21:42 GMT
#1758
On October 07 2016 06:39 Calix wrote:
Your explanation sucks.

You said you didn't scum-read him. Now you're claiming that you did scum-read him for that post.

You also said he was scummy because he didn't say "I'm town" in his defense - that is literally what you posted in the thread.

Someone saying "might as well have fun" has never been scum-indicative. What are you smoking?

I don't give a shit if you tried to prevent that, my dude.


I did not scum-read him. I said that as I voted. Go check. (Grack asked me if I scum-read Bats and I said no.)

Yes, I said that. Your point?

I explained my thought process. I still think it's scum AI.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 21:44 GMT
#1759
On October 07 2016 06:41 Calix wrote:
It also makes no sense for you to lecture me for not listening to you when you voted for him for doing something scummy, lmao.


Listening to your TRs is what I said. I was not the only one to tell you bats was unlikely to flip mafia.

It makes perfect sense.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 21:47 GMT
#1761
I said that I thought that he had scum-claimed in the thread. You even questioned it.

I have just explained it.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 21:47 GMT
#1762
On October 07 2016 06:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I said that I thought that he had scum-claimed in the thread. You even questioned it.

I have just explained it.

At EoD*

Your whole point is that my read on Bats changed when it did not.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 21:52 GMT
#1766
On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote:
Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time.


It fucking does.

What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 21:54 GMT
#1768
On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote:
Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time.


It fucking does.

What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere.


Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude.


Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:01 GMT
#1770
On October 07 2016 06:56 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote:
Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time.


It fucking does.

What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere.


Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude.


Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point?


It's obvious that I think your vote is bad and I'm prying into your stated reasoning vs what you've said before and how they don't actually make sense together. Doesn't take a genius to pick up on that one, pal.


They make sense together... they're the same.

So it has no relevance. You have no follow-up on this.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:01 GMT
#1771
What do y'all make of HF's death?

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:04 GMT
#1774
On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
What do y'all make of HF's death?



I think it further clears Calix from being mafia because the "code" I was talking about stated that I had a veteran read on HF (I had not read the veteran role, so I thought a veteran killed the visitors when he decides to go on alert. I thought his whole "I will shoot Calix" narrative was a vet bait because of that.). If Calix was mafia, I do not think she would have NKed HF knowing this.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:06 GMT
#1775
On October 07 2016 07:03 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:56 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote:
Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time.


It fucking does.

What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere.


Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude.


Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point?


It's obvious that I think your vote is bad and I'm prying into your stated reasoning vs what you've said before and how they don't actually make sense together. Doesn't take a genius to pick up on that one, pal.


They make sense together... they're the same.

So it has no relevance. You have no follow-up on this.


Saying you don't scum-read someone who you think scum-claimed is not the same.

Instead of properly explaining your thought process here so that I can understand it better, you're just trying to shut down this line of conversation by calling it 'irrelevant'.

You have yet to show me how this point is relevant, lmao. I don't see any follow-up coming my way.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:07 GMT
#1776
On October 07 2016 07:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
What do y'all make of HF's death?



I think it further clears Calix from being mafia because the "code" I was talking about stated that I had a veteran read on HF (I had not read the veteran role, so I thought a veteran killed the visitors when he decides to go on alert. I thought his whole "I will shoot Calix" narrative was a vet bait because of that.). If Calix was mafia, I do not think she would have NKed HF knowing this.


Although she did not agree with that read. Hmm.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:09 GMT
#1778
On October 07 2016 07:08 Calix wrote:
You're seriously trying to say that you didn't read the setup?

Veteran is a protective role. It can be roleblocked and killed because Consort is a guaranteed role.


I did read the setup. Just not the veteran description as I thought it was a standard veteran.

Like again, what is the relevance of this? You don't even sr me.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:17 GMT
#1781
On October 07 2016 07:10 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 07:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 07:03 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:56 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:49 Calix wrote:
Actually my point is that your recent explanation doesn't mesh well with your stated reasoning at the time.


It fucking does.

What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere.


Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude.


Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point?


It's obvious that I think your vote is bad and I'm prying into your stated reasoning vs what you've said before and how they don't actually make sense together. Doesn't take a genius to pick up on that one, pal.


They make sense together... they're the same.

So it has no relevance. You have no follow-up on this.


Saying you don't scum-read someone who you think scum-claimed is not the same.

Instead of properly explaining your thought process here so that I can understand it better, you're just trying to shut down this line of conversation by calling it 'irrelevant'.

You have yet to show me how this point is relevant, lmao. I don't see any follow-up coming my way.


Nice evasion of explaining your contradictory vote.

Your vote sucks. You voted for someone that you didn't scum-read and later claimed that he scum-claimed. This was on town. You then try having your cake and eating it too by going "told you so LOL Calix, you so bad, should have listened to me sooner!" and now you refuse to explain yourself.

Need me to spoon-feed you any further on how scummy that is?


Who are you to tell me my vote sucked, lol?

If I voted Palmar, the problem would have been the same. I did not scum-read Palmar. My vote on HF was meaningless because it was the only one on him. I had to choose between two players I do not scum-read. Of course the vote was going to be bad. Nice job taking my vote out of context.

Yeah, you're fucking bad. This push is bad. (You claim that my vote doesn't match my reads, while you are pushing one of your scum-reads. That is some really nice play.)

I said that you never listened to anybody else. That applies to every game I've seen you play. It's either your lynch or fuck off. The better players' opinion does not matter.

I have explained myself.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:18 GMT
#1782
One of your town-reads* obviously
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:35 GMT
#1785
On October 07 2016 07:23 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 07:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 07:10 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 07:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 07:03 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 07:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:56 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:53 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[quote]

It fucking does.

What is the relevance of your point? Unless you think I am mafia with Plamar, you are going nowhere.


Who said anything about Palmar? I just asked about your batsnacks vote on its own, my dude.


Which raises the question: What is the relevance of your point?


It's obvious that I think your vote is bad and I'm prying into your stated reasoning vs what you've said before and how they don't actually make sense together. Doesn't take a genius to pick up on that one, pal.


They make sense together... they're the same.

So it has no relevance. You have no follow-up on this.


Saying you don't scum-read someone who you think scum-claimed is not the same.

Instead of properly explaining your thought process here so that I can understand it better, you're just trying to shut down this line of conversation by calling it 'irrelevant'.

You have yet to show me how this point is relevant, lmao. I don't see any follow-up coming my way.


Nice evasion of explaining your contradictory vote.

Your vote sucks. You voted for someone that you didn't scum-read and later claimed that he scum-claimed. This was on town. You then try having your cake and eating it too by going "told you so LOL Calix, you so bad, should have listened to me sooner!" and now you refuse to explain yourself.

Need me to spoon-feed you any further on how scummy that is?


Who are you to tell me my vote sucked, lol?

If I voted Palmar, the problem would have been the same. I did not scum-read Palmar. My vote on HF was meaningless because it was the only one on him. I had to choose between two players I do not scum-read. Of course the vote was going to be bad. Nice job taking my vote out of context.

Yeah, you're fucking bad. This push is bad. (You claim that my vote doesn't match my reads, while you are pushing one of your scum-reads. That is some really nice play.)

I said that you never listened to anybody else. That applies to every game I've seen you play. It's either your lynch or fuck off. The better players' opinion does not matter.

I have explained myself.


"Your vote was worse so my awful contradiction doesn't mean anything!"


You actually have zero self-conscience. This is a complete twist of what I said.

You still have not explained how "I don't scum-read him" and "he scum-claimed" make any sense. Your response is just you whining about how you JUST HAD TO CHOOSE between two town-reads when you could have easily voted for a third wagon and push that? lol


I said, "I think that was a scum-claim." I was not convinced it was one myself, and I did explain why I thought it was one. He had a town tone and I stated it. That was why I did not scum-read him.

When I placed my vote, I had to go to class. I was not in a position to push for a third wagon.

HF was being considered as an option and had a brief spurt of votes on him iirc. You have no excuse to not even try and get a wagon on him going. It wasn't like anyone really town-read him at that point.

Yeah, you don't rc. He had batsnacks and Palmar's votes and that was after I voted batsnacks. He was not ever considered an option before by other players than me.

I had an excuse.

You realise that your continued discrediting of someone you town-read is extremely anti-town and only helps the scum do their job by tearing down a town voice, right? It hasn't escaped my notice that most of your posts have the words "Calix is bad/ retarded" which is excessive even for you.


Most of my posts? Not. Maybe a sixth of my posts has "X is bad".

You are doing a great job of tearing down your own voice.

You don't know me. You cannot judge what is excessive for me and what is not. And I never called you or anybody retarded.

The fact that you started renewing your "Calix sucks" tirade once I said that I find your vote scummy (in the same post where you fail to explain it, rofl) speaks volumes.


If you think that this is a good push, you are fucking atrocious. And when did I stop the "Calix is bad" thing? Never.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:37 GMT
#1786
On October 07 2016 07:27 Calix wrote:
Not even getting into how you picked the person you actively town-read over someone who you have only said is "not scummy" lmao.


I did explain this. I had reasons to doubt my BS read while I did not have any reason to sr Plamar (other than the modkill post).
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 06 2016 22:39 GMT
#1787
I am town and would rather spend my time watching my movies/looking at the scummy players' filter than arguing with Mrs. Ego.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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