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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 14 2016 21:17 GMT
#2401
On September 15 2016 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
##vote vivax


Why exactly does Vivax shoot Skynk?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 14 2016 21:28 GMT
#2406
On September 15 2016 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
all these kills are like top tier scrub mafia or vivax, same thing really

if anything it looks like NU kills too

Calix/Skynx do seem like NU kills to me.

Skynx was pushing you. You were pushing Skynx. I'm not sure why mafia would want to shoot into there if you're town and it's not NU. I was expecting the shot to hit somebody not being pushed at all like Vivax or maybe a small chance of me lol.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 14 2016 21:39 GMT
#2409
Then I'm killing HF
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 14 2016 21:44 GMT
#2413
On September 15 2016 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
wow you're so easily convinced by the guy that has no opinion on the mafia team that has two people left, why couldn't nu decide a kill?

He probably could. But I've also been waiting like 6 days to kill you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 14 2016 22:03 GMT
#2416
The night kill really does point to NU imo. I'll filter dive later.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 14 2016 23:17 GMT
#2431
NU what site are you/Calix from?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 14 2016 23:31 GMT
#2434
I was going to try to check but it doesn't look easy. I'll take your word on being bad at mafia because I remember Calix was shitting on your scum play earlier.

The reason I said that about the night kills is that there actually aren't a lot of people I could see killing Skynx. A lot of people way overvalue certain players i.e. why some people think Palmar would be a good kill here.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 14 2016 23:40 GMT
#2437
HF why haven't you been pushing me this game?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 00:01 GMT
#2444
Can't we just kill Palmar? I'm pretty sure this is scum!Palmar by now. He made one attempt at contributing and it was a really bad list.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 00:57 GMT
#2453
I was about to shit on the case but underneath a lot of meh stuff there is actually a pretty good point. Vivax started adding all of these good reasons for Shapelog being scum that weren't in his first post even though Shapelog never posted in between those two posts.

By the way, in the Damdred post he was calling Damdred town for seeming scummy. It was actually a town read on Damdred.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 01:01 GMT
#2454
lol nope I just had a total epiphany between the minute I posted that and right now. Holyflare killed Skynx because in his mind he's going to look strange in LYLO for not dying even though nobody else is thinking that.

It makes way more sense than that same reasoning being applied to Vivax because I don't think Vivax would ever think that.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 01:31 GMT
#2459
On September 15 2016 10:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 10:01 Grackaroni wrote:
lol nope I just had a total epiphany between the minute I posted that and right now. Holyflare killed Skynx because in his mind he's going to look strange in LYLO for not dying even though nobody else is thinking that.

It makes way more sense than that same reasoning being applied to Vivax because I don't think Vivax would ever think that.


I don't understand why you make those conclusions.

I would find it suspicious that HF hasn't died in LYLO as scum has the possibility of disabling all protection. It seems like you are trying to frame HF here because you are giving YOUR reasoning to why HF wasn't killed and are expecting others to agree with it by presenting it as a fact.

Why would Vivax not think that?

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 09:37 Holyflare wrote:
Also I'm going to trust that Calix would have left a last will or voted nu if he was mafia so I can town read him without reading a single thing he's saying and flame calix if she's wrong end game


I want to change alignment just to see that happening.

It's actually not because HF didn't die. I didn't expect HF to die. HF was saying that Vivax made the kill for that reason which made me realize that this would be a more plausible motive for HF than Vivax.

Regardless it's not going to convince anyone of anything.

And I get that you think that HF is super townie but I don't think you understand that HF is a really strong mafia player. Definitely in the running for the best on this site. He's super active and opinionated regardless of alignment.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 02:00 GMT
#2461
On September 15 2016 10:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 10:31 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 15 2016 10:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 15 2016 10:01 Grackaroni wrote:
lol nope I just had a total epiphany between the minute I posted that and right now. Holyflare killed Skynx because in his mind he's going to look strange in LYLO for not dying even though nobody else is thinking that.

It makes way more sense than that same reasoning being applied to Vivax because I don't think Vivax would ever think that.


I don't understand why you make those conclusions.

I would find it suspicious that HF hasn't died in LYLO as scum has the possibility of disabling all protection. It seems like you are trying to frame HF here because you are giving YOUR reasoning to why HF wasn't killed and are expecting others to agree with it by presenting it as a fact.

Why would Vivax not think that?

On September 15 2016 09:37 Holyflare wrote:
Also I'm going to trust that Calix would have left a last will or voted nu if he was mafia so I can town read him without reading a single thing he's saying and flame calix if she's wrong end game


I want to change alignment just to see that happening.

It's actually not because HF didn't die. I didn't expect HF to die. HF was saying that Vivax made the kill for that reason which made me realize that this would be a more plausible motive for HF than Vivax.


You went from "Holyflare killed Skynx because in his mind he's going to look strange in LYLO for not dying even though nobody else is thinking that. " to "more plausible motive" in two posts. Inconsistent to say the least.

Show nested quote +
Regardless it's not going to convince anyone of anything.


Why are you making a case/post if your goal is not to convince? You are marginalizing your own posts.

Show nested quote +
And I get that you think that HF is super townie but I don't think you understand that HF is a really strong mafia player. Definitely in the running for the best on this site. He's super active and opinionated regardless of alignment.


Yes, I understand that he's a great player. That doesn't make him scummy nor does it change my stance on him.

I never said that activity nor opinions were AI.

They're the same reason.

HF said that Vivax is mafia for the night kill because Vivax doesn't want to look bad in LYLO for still being alive. Knowing HF I think that's a much more plausible motive for HF than Vivax.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 02:10 GMT
#2464
On September 15 2016 11:07 Holyflare wrote:
You just said vivax pulled Shapelog read out of his anus and somehow magiced away his town read and ditched his scum reads

But now I'm mafia because I made some good nk wifom and actually proved his read was bull shit?

Well no if Vivax is mafia it's for withholding thoughts on Shapelog. He didn't ditch a scum read on Damdred as I've already explained. But yeah I spend a lot of time wavering and that pushed me back a bit.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 02:14 GMT
#2465
On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.

These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me.

Who are you referring to here?

Well activity wise you are a very strong scum player. I still think you do a lot of stupid things like make reads you wouldn't make as town and I thought you were scum in the obs QT as well.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 02:15 GMT
#2466
On September 15 2016 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.

These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me.

Who are you referring to here?

Well activity wise you are a very strong scum player. I still think you do a lot of stupid things like make reads you wouldn't make as town and I thought you were scum in the obs QT as well.

*In the Star Wars game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 02:19 GMT
#2467
Also I'm still of the opinion that Vivax is pretty likely town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 02:41 GMT
#2470
On September 15 2016 11:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.

These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me.

Who are you referring to here?

Well activity wise you are a very strong scum player. I still think you do a lot of stupid things like make reads you wouldn't make as town and I thought you were scum in the obs QT as well.


Quote reads or this is bull shit. I can explain every read and move I make.

As mafia I'm 100x more careful.

lol I already did with TT.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 02:43 GMT
#2471
On September 15 2016 11:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 11:10 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 15 2016 11:07 Holyflare wrote:
You just said vivax pulled Shapelog read out of his anus and somehow magiced away his town read and ditched his scum reads

But now I'm mafia because I made some good nk wifom and actually proved his read was bull shit?

Well no if Vivax is mafia it's for withholding thoughts on Shapelog. He didn't ditch a scum read on Damdred as I've already explained. But yeah I spend a lot of time wavering and that pushed me back a bit.


I never even mentioned anything about damdred.

I'm saying he bull shitted a reason to switch on his partner to look good later when Shapelog dies (could have been modkilled). He didn't wager damdred would look towny and me and skynx switch.

There's no way vivax TOWN READS Shapelog and goes to dinner and MAGICALLY finds a reason to scum read Shapelog who he town reads and who he got his main scum read (fuba) from. He showed absolutely no hesitancy when I told him the votes were manipulated either. None whatsoever.

I'll let Vivax defend himself but the posts were made over a day apart not a dinner.

I don't really want to get in another big spat with you. Go to bed HF.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2016 03:09 GMT
#2473
On September 15 2016 12:00 Holyflare wrote:
No he lists someone as town and then never is mentioned again and then after dinner just appears?


Ah I see you are referring to a different post than the original Shapelog read.

I went back to check and he is literally the first one to suggest Shape. He did so even before TW.
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