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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 11 2016 13:54 GMT
#1501
Shape doesn't know what to make of your inconsistencies, sees no reason that you should do what you did as scum.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 11 2016 13:58 GMT
#1502
On September 11 2016 22:54 Damdred wrote:
Shape doesn't know what to make of your inconsistencies, sees no reason that you should do what you did as scum.


You dropped your opinion while you were busy rehashing Shape's views, my dude.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 11 2016 14:01 GMT
#1503
On September 11 2016 22:58 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 22:54 Damdred wrote:
Shape doesn't know what to make of your inconsistencies, sees no reason that you should do what you did as scum.


You dropped your opinion while you were busy rehashing Shape's views, my dude.

And you still haven't explained to me why TW/Damdred can be a thing. gogogo
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 14:01 GMT
#1504
On September 11 2016 22:27 Damdred wrote:
Nothing that's posted makes me scum and honestly calix is creating a narrative that just fits what they want to see.

Sk might be scum I'm not sure the inconsitincies are more scum leaning but not,sure.

Anyway I'll probably be around some,then be here later on Monday.

Also I expected more from you hf.


Why? I don't have time to be good at this game anymore. Apart from nailing tw to a wall.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 11 2016 14:01 GMT
#1505
The more skynx talks about me being a good lynch yesterday the more I want to kill him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 11 2016 14:02 GMT
#1506
Also I'm downgrading Calix to meh based on paranoia but not really interested in lynching yet.
Computer says mafia
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 11 2016 14:03 GMT
#1507
On September 11 2016 23:01 Palmar wrote:
The more skynx talks about me being a good lynch yesterday the more I want to kill him.

Oi sush you you were supposed to be afk til monday.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 11 2016 14:03 GMT
#1508
NU, go and read my filter if you want to see my reasoning.

Otherwise stop distracting everyone with your annoying "summary pls" posts.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 11 2016 14:03 GMT
#1509
Btw, my science experiment yielded exactly 0 results. No one wanted to join me on the TW wagon. I have no idea if TW is scum and I don't really think the slip was a slip, but it is interesting that despite all the talk and seeming sense of "we should maybe shennie" in the thread, no one was actually willing to pull the trigger.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 11 2016 14:03 GMT
#1510
On September 11 2016 23:03 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 23:01 Palmar wrote:
The more skynx talks about me being a good lynch yesterday the more I want to kill him.

Oi sush you you were supposed to be afk til monday.

You're not my mom
Computer says mafia
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 11 2016 14:04 GMT
#1511
On September 11 2016 23:02 Palmar wrote:
Also I'm downgrading Calix to meh based on paranoia but not really interested in lynching yet.


Please tell us more about your self-aware paranoiak read, sir.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 11 2016 14:05 GMT
#1512
Why did you say I only shitposted Skynx? I didn't post much, but I don't think much of what I posted was just shitty trolling. I actually think most of my posts are very reasonable and extremely intelligent.
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 11 2016 14:05 GMT
#1513
On September 11 2016 22:48 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 22:42 Damdred wrote:
On September 11 2016 22:15 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 19:04 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 07:57 Damdred wrote:
Nu why is it again that sky can town hunt and you say he's scum hunting, but when I'm largely town hunting and trying to build what I think is the right group I am not?

And no I disagree with your conclusions over all on sky him voting tt especially when there was a movement away from tt (to a poont) is just scummy.

In fact he complains about people ignoring the other lurkers and never really brings much of anything worth talking about up just says the filter he checked wasn't that bad.

Then he bites someone who he really shouldn't given his filter. So no it's scum


This isn't part of the reason I am town-reading Skynx, but I don't like Damdred's push on Skynx either.

A. His first line (where he asks why Skynx town-clearing is townie but him doing that is scummy) would be fine taken by itself because he's pointing out a possible inconsistency. However, it fits in with his overall pattern of only commenting on things that relate to him. It doesn't look like he actually cares about pushing a scum-read (Skynx) because his focus is on NU treating him differently to Skynx. It is another example of Damdred only focusing on himself.

B. His points make no sense for him to use to scum-read Skynx when he himself admits that he was doing the same thing. According to his logic, that makes him scummy. If a townie was aware that they were doing questionable things, they would have rationalisations for why said things are helpful to the town.

Therefore, that townie would be more inclined to town-read players who are acting similarly to them, because they can relate to that behaviour and have an explanation fresh in their minds for why said player is acting like that. So let's say that town!Damdred didn't push on anyone at EOD because he was busy. He sees Skynx not pushing on anyone. He would be more likely to assume that Skynx wasn't pushing anyone because of time constraints too.

(bad example but I'm not saying this is what happened. I'm just trying to explain my thought process)

So given this, why wouldn't Damdred assume that Skynx also has similar reasoning for acting like he was instead of jumping to the explanation that makes Skynx scum?

C. This is another example of Damdred focusing on the easy targets in the thread:

- His town-reads match up with popular opinion.

- Sheep-voted on the shitty TT train, complete with horrible WIFOM conspiracy theories about scum bussing which cannot be backed up by anything in the thread. (focus on abstract theories > logical arguments)

- He never discussed other lynch targets in any of his EOD posts. Why? Because the shitty TT train was already locked in at that point so why would he need to? Even Skynx, Palmar, etc were discussing other candidates. Regardless of how shitty said discussion was, it's better than just settling for a TT vote with NO comment.

- After TT flipped, he threw shade on Grack and myself because "their defense of TT was weird" (which isn't the same as scum-motivated, just black sheep) and now focuses on Skynx after NU drew attention to this potential inconsistency. I have yet to see Damdred actually push a 'scum-read' BEFORE someone else did. Classic scum tactic of evading responsibility.

- Let's not forget the "don't blame the TT voters, blame the people off the train" post.

This was said AFTER HF and Superbia had made it clear that they were going to attack people off the TT train regardless of how TT flipped. Thus, this is a safe position for Damdred to take because he knows he'll have support in the thread already.

- I am aware that he suddenly flipped and defended me against Super because he was 'playing devil's advocate'. I have no idea what the fuck he was doing there but it didn't give me good vibes. If he did that after getting pushback against a Calix train then I'm even more inclined to think he's scum because it felt like an awkward and insincere backtrack.


Fuck's sake N00b

tl;dr

- Self-centred and almost-exclusively talks about himself and responds to posts that mention him.

- Always hides behind other players' ideas. (e.g., he waited for NU to talk about Skynx before saying Skynx was scummy; waited for HF/ Superbia to say "if TT is town, lynch Calix" before agreeing)

- He takes safe/ popular positions in the thread, says nothing controversial whatsoever.

- Had no interest in doing anything useful at EOD except for responding when called out, was content with the TT train and did not even bother discussing other options.


1) One is hypocritical as you yourself mainly protected yourself and have overall reacted poorly pressure, also it is natural to foremost take on accusations against yourself as only you (or a cop) knows your alignment. This is nai to the extreme doesn't make anyone scum.

2) When night began I attacked the notion that calix was scum with super via across several posts as I thought that you had nothing to gain from doing what you did. Nu asked for opinions and mine directly countered thread sentiment. So this is a blatant lie and the examples are just wrong.

3) See two obviously can't be true, and I was the starter of some early opinions.

4) I wanted tt lynched not other people, I got the person who I wanted lynched. Not scum indicative and this harkens back,to 1. Nai

As for wishy washy, yep I am sometimes I don't have perfect information so,I second guess myself whenever I can.


1. Er no, I have done considerably more than 'just defend myself'. I am not arguing that talking about/ defending yourself is scummy. I am arguing that ONLY talking about yourself is scummy.

Why would any town care to talk about themselves as much as you have when they should be focused on figuring out everyone else's alignment?

2. Explain why you felt the need to say "Calix defending TT is weird" then if you didn't think it was scummy. You were low-key agreeing with the idea that I was sketchy for defending TT's train. If you didn't think that made me suspicious, why did you do it again?

3. [citation fucking needed]

But let's assume you didn't make that shit up. Fire-starting is not a town tell. If anything, that's what scum do. They get other people to talk about and push their own ideas.

4. That doesn't mean you just stop talking about the other trains, wtf. You're telling me that you had no opinions you wanted to share about the EOD events? Not buying it. You got complacent with the ML and stopped posting anything constructive.


1) I am figuring out people's alignments, you just do not like how I am doing it. I have several posts where I am standing at points. And being self centered when .people are talking about lynching you isn't scum indicative.

2. Cause I thought you and grac might be scum. Then I almost instantly swap on grac in my next post. You forgot that one. I thought of town reasons it could be done.

3. You are basically saying here you didn't read my filter before you made your case. And once again you are forcing everything into a narrative on a conclusion you have already made. Which btw if you took the same tact you are handling,me,the same way nu scum read me and now you are using,it to throw shade under the cover. I don't think,that's the case but it's humorous.

4) I can do what hi want around lynch, I was relatively sure on tt. Can only lynch one person at a time anyway. This isn't alignment indicative in that case.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 11 2016 14:06 GMT
#1514
On September 11 2016 23:04 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 23:02 Palmar wrote:
Also I'm downgrading Calix to meh based on paranoia but not really interested in lynching yet.


Please tell us more about your self-aware paranoiak read, sir.

No, later.

Don't worry, just lynch scum and you'll be fine.

I actually thought I decided against posting that, but I must've hit post. Pretend you didn't read it and I'm townreading you 100%. Could you do that for me? Please?
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 11 2016 14:07 GMT
#1515
On September 11 2016 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 22:27 Damdred wrote:
Nothing that's posted makes me scum and honestly calix is creating a narrative that just fits what they want to see.

Sk might be scum I'm not sure the inconsitincies are more scum leaning but not,sure.

Anyway I'll probably be around some,then be here later on Monday.

Also I expected more from you hf.


Why? I don't have time to be good at this game anymore. Apart from nailing tw to a wall.


We both believed in the same lynch, I'm not able to be as active as either of us want. You should,know I'm town by now honestly
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 11 2016 14:07 GMT
#1516
On September 11 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
Why did you say I only shitposted Skynx? I didn't post much, but I don't think much of what I posted was just shitty trolling. I actually think most of my posts are very reasonable and extremely intelligent.

Sure hun, maybe I will actually take you serious soon. + Show Spoiler +
(Soon is the key word here)
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 11 2016 14:08 GMT
#1517
Can you give me an updated list of your scumreads Calix?
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 11 2016 14:08 GMT
#1518
On September 11 2016 22:58 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 22:54 Damdred wrote:
Shape doesn't know what to make of your inconsistencies, sees no reason that you should do what you did as scum.


You dropped your opinion while you were busy rehashing Shape's views, my dude.

'
What does this even,mean. Sky misinterpreted what shape was saying I corrected him idk
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 11 2016 14:10 GMT
#1519
On September 11 2016 23:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 22:27 Damdred wrote:
Nothing that's posted makes me scum and honestly calix is creating a narrative that just fits what they want to see.

Sk might be scum I'm not sure the inconsitincies are more scum leaning but not,sure.

Anyway I'll probably be around some,then be here later on Monday.

Also I expected more from you hf.


Why? I don't have time to be good at this game anymore. Apart from nailing tw to a wall.


We both believed in the same lynch, I'm not able to be as active as either of us want. You should,know I'm town by now honestly

There are some reasons to think you're mafia so calm down bro

a) you haven't said anything super smart and insightful
b) you have been background-y
c) your sass has been almost over the top. You aren't queen enough to act like you're me
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 11 2016 14:11 GMT
#1520
On September 11 2016 23:07 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
Why did you say I only shitposted Skynx? I didn't post much, but I don't think much of what I posted was just shitty trolling. I actually think most of my posts are very reasonable and extremely intelligent.

Sure hun, maybe I will actually take you serious soon. + Show Spoiler +
(Soon is the key word here)

scumpile
Computer says mafia
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