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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:26 GMT
#803
I'm not even here to play the game today. I have 3 simple posts that you need to counter otherwise you come join my lynch.

Just because you can't accept I play this way as any alignment doesn't mean I'm mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:30 GMT
#805
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).

I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:38 GMT
#810
On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).

I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.


Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now.

How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that?


No you made a shit case on a town read of mine, perhaps you should read my comment again. You said that fuba os mafia because he's setting himself up to play like shit with that post which is a mafia post.

I'm simply asking if it becomes null if he plays like that every game and also since I got the opposite impression from the post when he posted it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:40 GMT
#811
On September 11 2016 01:36 Skynx wrote:
Sup mofos, I'll cook eat then sit here for rest of the night.


Catch up and make posts instead of posting from behind the game permanently please. I'm suspicious of you slightly.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:52 GMT
#817
On September 11 2016 01:43 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).

I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.


Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now.

How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that?


No you made a shit case on a town read of mine, perhaps you should read my comment again. You said that fuba os mafia because he's setting himself up to play like shit with that post which is a mafia post.

I'm simply asking if it becomes null if he plays like that every game and also since I got the opposite impression from the post when he posted it.


I fail to see how it's a shit case, especially to you, when you made similar points against TT and Grack.

I didn't say "fuba is mafia because he made X comment" - that is only a PART of my case against him. Even if he hadn't made that comment, the rest of my points stand strong.

You didn't ask about wherever it becomes null. (you said 'not scummy' which is not the same thing as 'null')

You haven't said what you were hoping or expecting to get from my reaction.


I've given you what I've thought there's nothing more to discuss here.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:55 GMT
#819
If you think my points on tt and grack and yours on fuba were anything alike then I have no idea what game you're reading.

Grack was purely association with tt because of all the hard defending and chainsaw posts, many sins. I still actually am sort of unsure of grack still despite calling him mafia.

Tt is a massive lapse in thought process, forced entry etc etc.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 17:57 GMT
#838
On September 11 2016 02:39 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 02:35 Damdred wrote:
You forgot a option tbh, the third option is tt didn't want to play as scum and at least one team mate is light budding with the intent to jump on when the train looks like it,had no breaks,for cred.

COukd it be town tt just going down with the ship, yes it could. But there is no logical reasoning town should defend tt is there? For such a easy target the amount of push back,that has been received from the tt while no one town reads him is staggering tbh.

But really there is so much time left and so few people voting it coups,mean any number of things.


Ew no wtf.

I've already explained that bussing is a horrible fucking strategy for Day 1. Town cred is overrated - nobody gives a shit about who voted for who on Day 1 when it comes to a LYLO situation. I've literally never seen anyone be saved from a lynch because "lol they voted for scum on D1"

Well I am town and I'm defending TT with logical reasoning because scum have no incentive to stick their neck out for a lurker mislynch, so get the fuck off with that 'logic'.

Your last sentence just serves to undermine everything you just said.

0/10, did not like this post whatsoever.


Damdred' s post is correct and yours is semi correct. You don't bus for lylo cred. You can bus for normal cred though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:02 GMT
#846
Fuba I have no idea but last game when I was mafia I pushed ticktock as mafia a d he came back and started countering all the points and fighting back.

For some reason people think I'd do that two games in a row.

Also, he was afk a shit load as town last game too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:07 GMT
#849
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.

Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.

Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.

Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.

You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:21 GMT
#861
On September 11 2016 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Man p34 is way too long but I'm kinda liking Gracks defence.

HF you seem to be pretty convinced both Grack n TT are mafia which one are we lynching today? And what about the other one if todays lynch flips town?


Catch up next time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:24 GMT
#866
On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.

Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.

Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.

Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.

You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done.


I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"?

No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM?

No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'.


If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him.

Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy.

Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why.

Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:27 GMT
#868
This Calix person is as dumb as two planks.

"why should i answer your wifom questions, here is my wifom! "
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:45 GMT
#886
On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.

Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.

Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.

Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.

You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done.


I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"?

No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM?

No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'.


If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him.

Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy.

Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why.

Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?


Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.


How do you know those people aren't mafia????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:46 GMT
#888
On September 11 2016 03:33 Skynx wrote:
So TT is afk.
HF sr's TT cuz according to meta TT should defend when pressured.
Grack defends TT cuz HF's points is weak.
HF sr's Grack cuz of defending an afk.
Tumble sr's HF cuz his points are invalid.
HF asks everyone to follow him cuz his reads are flawless.

While Shapelog, Super, Palmar are all MIA and posted no content.
fuba, calix and NU are fighting eachother for no reason.
Damdred and Vivax are kinda in and out.

game is hard.


This is terrible fucking bs read. That's not why I'm mafia reading him at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:50 GMT
#896
On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.

Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.

Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.

Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.

You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done.


I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"?

No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM?

No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'.


If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him.

Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy.

Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why.

Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?


Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.


How do you know those people aren't mafia????


It's so bull shit there's 6 people not voting and half the gane barely posts things and you jump to some conclusion mafia is doing some stuff to push tt because he's town??

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:51 GMT
#899
On September 11 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:33 Skynx wrote:
So TT is afk.
HF sr's TT cuz according to meta TT should defend when pressured.
Grack defends TT cuz HF's points is weak.
HF sr's Grack cuz of defending an afk.
Tumble sr's HF cuz his points are invalid.
HF asks everyone to follow him cuz his reads are flawless.

While Shapelog, Super, Palmar are all MIA and posted no content.
fuba, calix and NU are fighting eachother for no reason.
Damdred and Vivax are kinda in and out.

game is hard.


This is terrible fucking bs read. That's not why I'm mafia reading him at all.

You didn't like his wifom entry. You pressured him and he didn't defend. Those are your arguments around 35-40 am i not right? If not please tell cuz I'm not happy with TT lynch.


No. Read again I even summarise my case during the pages multiple times. I don't think anyone that reads the thread properly can ever think this at all.

I'll go find the quotes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:56 GMT
#905
On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it.

It's a very strong opening.

But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because:

Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:

TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing

But... he's not mafia?


On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."

or

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>"

On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.

If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.

If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either.

On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.

Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too.

On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?

he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:

a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset

b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.

SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.

Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.


Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:58 GMT
#906
On September 11 2016 03:55 Calix wrote:
I like how HF says that me saying "the scum are allowing a townie to die" is "jumping to a conclusion"

It's a very simple argument to make about the stale TT wagon and lack of resistance.


It's a shit argument.

Gracj pushes off tt
Nu wants damdred
You use useless wifom shit
There's onky 3 ppl on tt
5 people afk
Tunble wants me

Why is your argument the most simple one? It's nit because it's bull shit to fit your wifom agenda of not voting tt.


Read my quotes EVERYONE IN THIS GAME.

PROVE MY LOGIC IS WRONG OR VOTE TT.

I'm actually sick of everyone dodging.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 19:03 GMT
#911
It was a minor point that developed into more when i thought about it later.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 19:04 GMT
#913
I push it so hard for discussion not just make it.
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