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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:12 GMT
#1264
On September 11 2016 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
We explained why your reasons for thinking tt are town are literally the shittest in the game. You still push the rhetoric that yoir wifom is the correct logic though despite 5 people telling you otherwise.

If tt is town that is why you are mafia because you got shown 5000 other wifom situations that make sense and you picked the right one.


^ Calix


No they aren't. Thinking that a bad wagon is a town wagon because of a lack of resistance + scummy voters is using the thread to draw a conclusion. That's not a WIFOM situation.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:14 GMT
#1268
Literally the argument against me is "Calix was correct that a shitty train was a mislynch before he flipped"

Except I'm not using my 'correctness' to do anything.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:18 GMT
#1279
I just did. Nobody was making a concerted effort to divert his train and almost all of his votes = sheep.

Tictock had 3 votes with 3 hours to go before EOD. At the time, he was clearly going to be lynched without objection.

And no, people voting for someone else that isn't TT =/= diverting the lynch. Nobody was trying to push an alternative train. Saying that your train was being pushed is extremely generous and nobody else was a viable option.

Therefore that is a shitty train that is likely a mislynch.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:20 GMT
#1287
On September 11 2016 06:16 Superbia wrote:
Calix I recall you making a big logical post that made sense and was townie. I recall you engaging people directly. I don't recall you actually reading anyone scum and pursuing that.

So:
- You seemed townie.
- You did not have anyone you actually believed was mafia.
- You defended a town-wagon.


"seems townie" - lol wtf, I AM town. How is that a reason to scum-read someone?

What are you even talking about? I've scum-read Grack, TT, TW, fuba and Damdred throughout the game. Saying I "haven't believed anyone is mafia" is blatantly incorrect.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:23 GMT
#1293
I like how people are acting like I haven't made my reads clear.

Damdred and fuba for two.

Your push on me reeks of opportunism and your reasons for scum-reading me are literal shit.

I also dislike HF's push. However I doubt that both of you are scum because you two are too obviously linked by agreeing on this dumb push of me.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:25 GMT
#1295
On September 11 2016 06:22 Superbia wrote:
Like you mention 5 names, which of those did you want to lynch at EoD? You definitely didn't want to lynch TT but I don't think you actually wanted to lynch someone? Am I correct in this?


What the fuck would you call my vote and posts on Damdred then?

Nice leading questions, but no dice.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:27 GMT
#1300
Damdred had 2 votes. HF had 2 votes until I voted for him within the last 10 minutes.

Continue to mischaracterise the situation, why don't you?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:28 GMT
#1302
On September 11 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote:
Honestly your vote and push on me is a soft push really


I'll be upgrading it for tomorrow, pal, since it looks like the scum are trying to mislynch me next because I called them out on their bullshit mislynch.

It's incredibly obvious.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:31 GMT
#1308
On September 11 2016 06:28 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:27 Calix wrote:
Damdred had 2 votes. HF had 2 votes until I voted for him within the last 10 minutes.

Continue to mischaracterise the situation, why don't you?


Did you actually try to convince people to go on damdred? I recall you actually being pretty quiet during the final (and most important) hour.


Yes, idiot.

And the overall response was "Damdred can be useful if he's town" and "TT is a better option, let's sheep his train"

You said yourself that "TT would have posted if he was town" - how do I argue with such stellar reasoning exactly?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:33 GMT
#1313
On September 11 2016 06:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Calix, you've got to interact with me if you want us to be efficient. I town-read you. Now more than ever is the time you have to collaborate with me.


I forget if I already posted this but your post where you said HF is less scummy for openly pushing for the ML was decent. Like I said, I don't think HF/ Superbia is a scum duo so that's a point in HF's favour.

Also I don't think that one of them flipping town means that the other is automatically scum. T/T is still possible although I am extremely skeptical.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:35 GMT
#1315
On September 11 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:31 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:28 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:27 Calix wrote:
Damdred had 2 votes. HF had 2 votes until I voted for him within the last 10 minutes.

Continue to mischaracterise the situation, why don't you?


Did you actually try to convince people to go on damdred? I recall you actually being pretty quiet during the final (and most important) hour.


Yes, idiot.

And the overall response was "Damdred can be useful if he's town" and "TT is a better option, let's sheep his train"

You said yourself that "TT would have posted if he was town" - how do I argue with such stellar reasoning exactly?


I'll see when I reread EoD.


You haven't answered how I would have countered that kind of point.

Your reasoning for joining the TT train is extremely weak and you have nothing to say about that when you were proven wrong, eh?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:37 GMT
#1321
On September 11 2016 06:36 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:35 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:31 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:28 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:27 Calix wrote:
Damdred had 2 votes. HF had 2 votes until I voted for him within the last 10 minutes.

Continue to mischaracterise the situation, why don't you?


Did you actually try to convince people to go on damdred? I recall you actually being pretty quiet during the final (and most important) hour.


Yes, idiot.

And the overall response was "Damdred can be useful if he's town" and "TT is a better option, let's sheep his train"

You said yourself that "TT would have posted if he was town" - how do I argue with such stellar reasoning exactly?


I'll see when I reread EoD.


You haven't answered how I would have countered that kind of point.

Your reasoning for joining the TT train is extremely weak and you have nothing to say about that when you were proven wrong, eh?


TT is a good town who literally stopped posting when someone put pressure on him. Like I am expecting him, as town, to come in and defend himself or at least do fucking something.


lol so the possibility of him being legitimately AFK never occurred to you? Calling bullshit.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:43 GMT
#1327
I would propose not directing the shot because I recall the scum have some Doctor role that allows them access to the TPR chats if they heal correctly or some shit.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:44 GMT
#1328
I still don't get how fuba is being town-read but I'd rather not take away focus from Superbia/ Damdred/ HF, etc.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:49 GMT
#1336
TT was not objectively scummy. He only had one person who gave any kind of reasoning for his train. If he was actually scummy, that wouldn't have been the case.

I didn't say that I knew he was town for certain. The only thing I knew was that his train sucked and this is undeniable. A train that isn't being contested with a bunch of sheep voters = shitty.

You are only focusing on me being scum when I wasn't the only person defending TT's shitty train. Yet I am the only person that is scummy for defending TT. Selective scum-hunting, now that's actually sketchy.

I read him as probable town due to external factors, in this case votes. You don't always need to use his posts (which sucked but there was nothing that came from a 100% scum mindset) to figure that out. Not a scum tell, sorry not sorry.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:52 GMT
#1339
Superbia's logic is not consistent. He says we should look at the people defending the ML and that 'town would never defend TT in that situation' but is uncritically town-reading NU despite him defending the ML too. And he has said nothing on how NU defending TT isn't scummy yet my defense is.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:54 GMT
#1345
That's called constipation.

But seriously, fuck 'gut reads' to high hell.

And if you think I'm relenting on my read of you because you might 'reconsider' your shitty 'scum-read' then you can suck it.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:57 GMT
#1354
Also I haven't used TT's mislynch as a "I told you so" thing. You people keep saying "Calix defended TT" but you haven't said what I would actually get out of it.

I'm not using TT's mislynch to push a scum-read on anyone. I'm not saying "I told you so". I'm not saying I am town for defending TT. I am not saying I am town for making this post "cuz WIFOM lul"

But fuck WIFOM for a second...what exactly would scum!Calix get out of this if not those things?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#1356
Also if this site doesn't do VCA and that's the reason this argument is taking place, I'm going to brain myself with a crowbar.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 22:02 GMT
#1365
On September 11 2016 06:59 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:57 Calix wrote:
Also I haven't used TT's mislynch as a "I told you so" thing. You people keep saying "Calix defended TT" but you haven't said what I would actually get out of it.

I'm not using TT's mislynch to push a scum-read on anyone. I'm not saying "I told you so". I'm not saying I am town for defending TT. I am not saying I am town for making this post "cuz WIFOM lul"

But fuck WIFOM for a second...what exactly would scum!Calix get out of this if not those things?


No, no.

What are you getting out of this as town, exactly?


Showing that the scum-read on me for defending TT is shitty, duh.

I'm asking for what intent I would have, as scum, to defend TT.

Also if it wasn't obvious, I hate 'WIFOM' as a response. That's almost-always been a cop-out way of saying "I have no retort but I won't say as much" like seriously.
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