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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:42 GMT
#883
Also just read Damdred's last post and it sounds like he is thinking a TT lynch tells us shit about HF. Not sure if he was meaning to imply that but in case he did...

Well I don't believe in informational lynches. (especially if the person flips town). If TT is town, that doesn't auto-confirm HF as scum because town!HF wouldn't have known that TT was town.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:43 GMT
#884
Also I see Damdred trying to play the feisty game. Let's see how that goes when he bumps up to two votes.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:48 GMT
#891
On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.

Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.

Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.

Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.

You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done.


I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"?

No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM?

No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'.


If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him.

Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy.

Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why.

Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?


Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.


How do you know those people aren't mafia????


I don't. What I was saying there is that there is enough doubt about TT's alignment that scum have room to make a more coordinated defense of TT/ attack of someone else. And I don't see why they wouldn't because bussing is a horrendous scum move.

Although if I'm to trust TW, you guys actually bus on D1? wtf
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:49 GMT
#894
Skynx, pls give your ideal targets instead of making an open-ended appeal.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:52 GMT
#901
Tumblewood, while I appreciate you calling out NU just because I agree, you're not going to have much luck in changing how he views things. He will just deny doing it and carry on making the same mistakes he's made the first dozen times.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:55 GMT
#903
I like how HF says that me saying "the scum are allowing a townie to die" is "jumping to a conclusion"

It's a very simple argument to make about the stale TT wagon and lack of resistance.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:59 GMT
#908
On September 11 2016 03:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:48 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.

Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.

Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.

Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.

You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done.


I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"?

No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM?

No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'.


If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him.

Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy.

Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why.

Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?


Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.


How do you know those people aren't mafia????


I don't. What I was saying there is that there is enough doubt about TT's alignment that scum have room to make a more coordinated defense of TT/ attack of someone else. And I don't see why they wouldn't because bussing is a horrendous scum move.

Although if I'm to trust TW, you guys actually bus on D1? wtf


We do too, Calix. You are not acknowledging it because we always ML D1. When we don't scum are always bussing.

If you don't bus, you're a shit tier player and should feel bad.


I've had like, 10 scum games and I've yet to bus any of my partners aside from that one time one of my buddies got copped.

What do you make of the fact that Damdred said "I'm never getting lynched D1" and then disappeared after we said we would vote for him? I find that timing curious but not sure if it's AI or just coincidence.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:05 GMT
#916
On September 11 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Lol I walk away to do things and suddenly I dissapear? That's pretty hilarious tbh.

The simple fact is your theory isn't as strong as you make it out to be and now you hope you can push through a lynch on me. That's equally comical.



You're not very good at this, are you? If you stop posting after being voted, that looks like you disappeared.

Bonus points for coming back in a grand four minutes after I talked about you. Busy indeed.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:08 GMT
#919
Piss off, HF. We've spent most of the day discussing the case. Spamming the chat with your whining is doing nothing but regurgitating info.

I'm more inclined to not vote for TT just to spite you if nothing else at this point.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:12 GMT
#924
On September 11 2016 04:10 Holyflare wrote:
You have spent 99% of today arguing with nu your town read and confused as to why fuba is town and still calling him mafia and then wifoming for days.

I literally just proved why your wifom is bull shit and nothing has changed for you.

You should lynch me so I can fire a bullet in your direction.


Yes, clearly it's my fault that NU has decided to tunnel me based on previous games and that I was defending myself against that.

Nobody had said anything about how fuba was town until a few hours ago and the reasoning was mediocre.

You like to keep repeating those points like they actually mean something.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:21 GMT
#939
Can we actually decide on like, a decent target for EOD please? TT's train is terrible and if Palmar votes for him, that makes 3/4 sheep voters.

If anyone town-reads Damdred or HF, then please speak up now.

Everyone is just doing their own fucking thing at the moment.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:25 GMT
#949
On September 11 2016 04:22 Palmar wrote:
sheeping is good

I think HF is town based on a) sounding like a raging hammer of justice at some point and b) effort.

Damdred is whatever. I always think he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia here. But then again, I always think he's mafia.

I don't wanna lynch damdred mostly because I know he's good and can be useful at some point. I need him to impress me a bit more though.


Effort is NAI.

Your Damdred read is super waffley. "I always think that he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia but I always think that he's mafia" (this is basically what you said but my point is that you didn't actually SAY anything here)

Useful...also not a town tell.

You guys have some weird town tells, eh?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:28 GMT
#956
I'm not saying sheeping is bad, but when an entire train is almost entirely sheep-votes, there's a problem.

Hardly anyone else has managed to get anywhere near the number of sheep votes as TT has.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:30 GMT
#960
Too many of HF's reads are hinged on how people reacted to the TT case. That's a weird level of obsession to have.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:32 GMT
#965
Being self-aware about your egotistical nature invalidates the point you were trying to make.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:37 GMT
#975
Okay so someone said earlier that TT has AFKed before as town.

Superbia is saying that he's scum for not posting.

WHICH ONE IS IT? MAKE UP YOUR MINDS PEOPLE.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:39 GMT
#979
Also the TT train continues to get shitty. ONLY ONE PERSON HAS GIVEN ANY KIND OF LOGICAL REASONING TO VOTE FOR HIM.

IS THIS NOT A GIANT RED FLAG?

Also I want Damdred, fuba and one of the lurkers dead. And maybe HF but I can't really tell with him.

This is kind of a response to HF.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:50 GMT
#1003
I fail to see how TT can possibly be scummier than Damdred who seems to talk about anything but scum-reads and has only sheeped onto a leading train and justified it with some bullshit abstract "scum COULD be bussing" reasoning (which has no basis in anything that's happened in the thread, thus this idea can NEVER be countered properly)

Also the fact that he commented on me calling him out the first time shows that he's checking the thread at least but doesn't care to comment on it even though we have 1 hour until EOD.

And the only arguments for him are "he can put in effort and he's a good player". Correct me if I missed some amazing defense of his posts so far but I doubt I have.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:59 GMT
#1019
My laptop is slow when it comes to quoting so I'll just be giving numbers so I can keep up with the thread.

But 648 and 658 has him basically say "oh I have this town read, who wants to guess at what it is" and when NU gives an answer he says "lol no" but...doesn't actually say why he town-reads fuba for that post. Not a scum tell but baiting people with a read that you have when you're not doing it to get info is strange and not sure why he did that.

827 was also terrible because he was saying "there is no logical reason for town to defend TT" (which implies that anyone who does defend him is scum and reads like he was trying to deter me from doing so) especially the last line where he was like "well this particular thing could mean anything"

The rest of his filter is the WIFOM discussion and some 'townie bravado' posts.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 20:02 GMT
#1026
Oh lookie here, I just summoned Damdred by mentioning him.
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