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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 20:18 GMT
#602
On September 10 2016 01:21 Holyflare wrote:
Fuba is too self aware at being crappy for me to call him mafia.


^ this is still where I stand at fuba, if he doesn't start to contribute more in the allotted timeframe that he has given himself then I will be after him or you will be or whatever

today is TT or Grackalackin depending on what TT says which I wager will be 0-5 posts complaining about me and saying something is crap and not much game playing
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 20:23 GMT
#606
it gave me tingly feelings in good areas
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 20:24 GMT
#607
I want you guys to isolate ticktock and grack in a bubble and sheep me directly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 21:34 GMT
#621
you just sheep me and i die at night ez
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 22:56 GMT
#659
On September 10 2016 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Sweeping is a skill that many people do not, nor want to, have. Its important to realize that sometimes someone is passionate about a lynch and they believe it so much and you should give it to them. (If you think they are town).

So yes if I think hf is town I will give him his preferred lynch and I suspect he would do the same to me.



Hahahaha no we always lynch who I want to and if we don't I get annoyed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 22:58 GMT
#660
Also there's no way I'm ever lynching fuba today and anyone voting him is bad.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 23:02 GMT
#661
On September 10 2016 06:21 Rels wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

Tictock (2): Holyflare, fuba, Calix
fuba (2): NeverUnlucky, Calix
Tumblewood (1): Superbia, Superbia
Calix (0): NeverUnlucky
Superbia (0): Superbia
Skynx (0): NeverUnlucky

Not Voting (8): Skynx, Damdred, Palmar, Grackaroni, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog, Tictock


Day 1 ends Saturday, Sep 10 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .
TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate.



bad people
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 23:02 GMT
#662
whenever we want to switch over to my lynch you're welcome
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 23:04 GMT
#663
On September 10 2016 06:09 Vivax wrote:
For HF:

Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 00:13 Vivax wrote:
A simple summary/caselet of scummy shit superbia did:

- Spammed the early game up with the stream thingy cause it tends to get people townread, got sloppy about it for the sake of spamming and made the mistake about the roles.

- While having a circle of suspects of TW/TT/Grack, the best question that comes to his mind for Calix is about NeverU, literally the guy calix talked about the most so far. Any other question could have been more productive. Calix opinion on NeverU was already fairly obvious from earlier convos.

- That question wasn't related to superbias current circle of suspects -> ergo it was just a question to appear active, get people to talk about what they want to talk. And on top of it, it was a question easy for Calix to answer given that her opinion on NU is probably the most fleshed out in the game.

- One point that isn't as important to me, but still relevant: The fact he had the same early scumreads as HF but somehow didn't relate to what HF wrote about them, or talked about HFs posts on them. This usually wouldn't be a problem if superbia actually brought up points of his own that seemed better to him than HFs points, but since I don't really see anything explaining why TT is mafia, this isn't the case.

On September 09 2016 22:03 Superbia wrote:
On September 09 2016 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
How are both those people related?

(shit did someone say something earlier and now my thread reading is a lie?)


They're both in this game. I have been inclined to group them together though I believe this has been covered by Calix before. TW's read on TT seemed non-existent and kind of forced. Plus he was willing to ignore your push on him because of 'paranoia'. Felt awkward. Like "look at how townie-paranoid I am" while not committing to anything.


This is the reason superbia believes them to be suspect. It looks entirely based on TWs read on TT. You tell me if that's a good reason.



also not ignoring this because i really did agree with your spammy point

the rest is meh-ish to ok but:


- One point that isn't as important to me, but still relevant: The fact he had the same early scumreads as HF but somehow didn't relate to what HF wrote about them, or talked about HFs posts on them. This usually wouldn't be a problem if superbia actually brought up points of his own that seemed better to him than HFs points, but since I don't really see anything explaining why TT is mafia, this isn't the case.


^ explain that plz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 23:07 GMT
#665
nah i'm lazy as fuck but i'll yell so it's all good in the hood
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 23:31 GMT
#667
ticktock is mafia and we are lynching him and nothing you can say will change that

what a waste of a wall of text
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 23:32 GMT
#668
For point #2: I think he is focusing on a contradiction that he can portray as scummy when I think he should be good enough to realize that it isn't very alignment indicative. TT said he didn't like talking about the setup and then said something about the setup. So what?


scummiest fucking thing in the universe that's what
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 10 2016 00:12 GMT
#677
are you actually being fucking serious?

he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:

a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset

b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.

SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.

Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.


Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 10 2016 00:20 GMT
#680
Grackaroni sin counter:

  • Chainsaw defends an afk ticktock
  • Hard defends an afk ticktock
  • Tries to meta the best mafia player on the site off of 2 games when there's about 100 in my profile and database even though he's played about 20 with me
  • Tries to base someone else's bad scummy play on HIS OWN meta as if everyone plays as badly as him:

    These were the posts in question. Does anyone agree with this assessment? They look like normal posts to me. I've definitely made posts like that as town.


    ^^^^^^^ WHO DOES THAT??????????

  • On September 09 2016 22:41 Grackaroni wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On September 09 2016 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
    Like people picking up on the semantics of the wording are bad and should feel bad. Sure he didn't say that mechanics are useless but his mindset is off from what he's actually posting and it looks solely like he's trying to skate by with low content posts.

    But which is it?! Is he trying to skate by with low content posts or is he not coming back from dinner?

    He did have a better start in that last game. If he's actually just bad at playing as mafia I'll vote him.

    Also I did not hard defend him. What I did is what we call in the business a "chain saw defense." The idea is to hit the accuser with the chain saw while the other scummer has him distracted.

    He acknowledges that Ticktock had a better start last game, completely and definitely better and ticktock has posted 0 new posts in this game yet grack is here hard defending ticktock from a push without letting him speak for himself despite agreeing with the sentiment that his two filters are different which would mean ticktock is actually mafia this game



Grackaroni mafia counter: Very, very, very high.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 10 2016 00:23 GMT
#681
Fuba is not mafia NU, and if he is then I'm not lynching him today, your time is wasted in that direction. Talk about someone else please.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 10 2016 00:26 GMT
#683
On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?

he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:

a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset

b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.

SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.

Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.


Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.


defeated
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 10 2016 00:28 GMT
#686
no we won't because i'm not around tomorrow and I don't really care enough about lynching anyone other than ticktock
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 10 2016 00:28 GMT
#687
but please tell me how any of what I posted is wrong and then maybe we can reach an understanding of how you are mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 10 2016 00:36 GMT
#689
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511964-onegu-is-the-best-host-mafia-part-2?user=Holyflare

BY THE WAY GUYS if Grackaroni's meta raeds weren't already 1000% genuine bull shit let's enlighten you to this filter!"

Here is Grackroni using something I said in this game to call my scummy:


The third thing was just the sheer certainty from Holyflare:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 10:48 Holyflare wrote:
I will never in 1000 fiery years vote anyone other than ticktock today.



Now, how about people open this said filter from my town game that Grackaroni uses to portray me as mafia and let's peruse the VERY FIRST PAGE LOL:

On August 09 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote:
yeh I could 100% lynch mderg

On August 09 2016 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
I have a pretty big hunch that SL is 100% mafia so it's not really a hunch but facts

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote:
didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway


I definitely targeted a weaker person in this game and he hasn't said shit about it and super dodged everything about me later


I am definitely the same in other games.

Strike one Grackaroni!




NOW, I found a nice tidbit in my other game too:

On August 08 2016 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Wow Tumblewood with the hard defending.

I said I didn't like his posts because they were stiff and ALSO that I looked at his other game where he was town and it was different completely, so two factors that lead up to him being scummy. Not to mention he hasn't posted since either.

Why have you completely bypassed the argument that I made and then made a new argument to defend him?

Also, SL comes in the thread and doesn't say anything about lynching me, definitely probably mafia.


this was from the Onegu game where I was town and pretty much have the exact same feelings as I do about Grackaroni in this game.

My play is almost the same (maybe I should try this tactic as mafia some day ) and somehow grack extrapolates that I'm mafia based on meta :D :D :D :D ok grack.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 10 2016 00:39 GMT
#690
On August 10 2016 16:17 Holyflare wrote:
Hahahaha sicklucker you're 1000% mafia.

On August 10 2016 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
More than what.....?

The only real moves I've done this game are started a wagon on probable mafia and cop checked to confirm. I'd say I've been 100% right so far.

On August 10 2016 23:00 Holyflare wrote:
So like i said before, 100% right.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 12 2016 07:16 Holyflare wrote:
Here is my perspective which is what I was trying to highlight and what admittedly GB thought was weird the entire day (because it was weird). I am town and now evidently GB is town and that definitely highlights irregularities from mafia's perspective of this whole claim thing.

We have several candidates flagged for mafia at this point and I'll rank them from the most likely:

1. Sicklucker

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On August 10 2016 15:36 sicklucker wrote:
in a sick world . if mafia has a rolecop and checked gb and saw he was a miller then mafia hf would make this play. would be pretty sick but way too unlikely. could also just be mafia doing it for the lulz his last mafia performance he didnt acualy try at all and let him self get lynched day 1 with no effort. but hes probably town boring

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote:
We should probably acualy lynch hf if gb flips miller. onegu especially likes to throw rolecops in his games I think...

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote:
REALLY UNLIKELY THO GUYS. just wanna throw that out there


I got a notification that I was roleblocked last night (I don't know why we get notifications at all really but w/e) so I was JK'd at least or MAYBE mafia rb'd which is possibly what SL is alluding to here:

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 16:34 sicklucker wrote:
also shouldnt you have been like jailkeeped last night? vivax sure didnt save himself



Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:12 GlowingBear wrote:
SL do you think HF is Mafia?


if your town he is. I mean theres nothing I can do untill you flip either way. no ones not gonna lynch you today including me.

But if you are town hes 100% a mafia rolecop. If thats true he saw I was right and is trying to set me up. or he could just be an idiot its hard to tell

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 21:24 sicklucker wrote:
Like its acualy insane that hf believes I slipped about a second miller which is pretty fucking unluckly in a 13 player setup. The fact he thinks its almost a certainty rather then a slim chance like I think is interesting. are lawyers not good at probability?

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 21:25 sicklucker wrote:
either way this game will be fun if gb flips miller. a good old battle royale. If he flips mafia so boring

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 13:59 sicklucker wrote:
ya my role cop scenario acualy makes alot of sense when you think about thanks grack for proving im not crazy. is it likely? hell no I have always said this



Now, think in your own heads, how unlikely was it that I was fake claiming? You guys are entirely in the dark, you did what was right, follow my lead and look for clues and links, SL on the other hand has referenced and foreshadowed (most importantly) GB flipping miller about 1000x throughout the day, not just flipping town, FLIPPING MILLER. That's the most important point of it all, mafia KNOWS I'm town and therefore if I have a red check and they know GB is town he MUST be a miller. This is why I found SL's reaction the most definite mindset of a mafia player because he KNEW ALL ALONG IT WAS HAPPENING.

Mafia chance: 100%



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