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Ghost bannish: Spectral (can be used even if dead). Once per game at night, you can disable any protection that happens during the night.
Ghost curse: Once per game at night, you can target one player. If that person is protected by the benevolent ghosts' protection, he will die. If that person is targeted by the spirit's KP, he will protected from it.
Vote vivax right now. He fucked up not killing me big time.
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It's 7-2 right now.
If it's all mislynches from now then:
1 night action: 5-2 2 night action: 3-2 End game
Mafia would have just 2! Nights left to use two powers and that's not even if they overlap them!
We just lynched a mafia and vivax made a case on him and voted on the wifom spectral vote and he's not dead???
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On September 15 2016 08:40 Grackaroni wrote: HF why haven't you been pushing me this game?
I don't think you've particularly done any mafia things to push and i haven't read any of your filter sooo.
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Hmm theory plot hole being why aren't I dead?
Hmmmm
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Actually no it makes sense that wasn't an awful kill. If any of vivax/palmar (definitely vivax) are mafia then them not dying tomorrow after i died tonight would be weird/scummy.
Killing skynx gives them an extra day of an excuse of being alive after I'm killed and all the crap noobs are pushing me so maybe there's a chance I'd be lynched too.
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Not killing me also leaves crappo noobs to control powerful things so that's a bonus too.
Here's my theory in case it's confusing:
Vivax is mafia but if vivax is mafia he can't die at night.
Killing me would be the best move to get rid of a person who can shit all over a mafia team but if I die that raises questions of why me over vivax.
Then you'd reach tomorrow and vivax wouldn't die. You would again ask the question why isn't vivax dead?
Then the suspicion is too great and he's mafia.
This theory is kill Skynx off and kill hf if he doesn't get called out and lynched this cycle because he's scum read by a lot of people (look who's left alive, everyone that scum reads me) and then if hf gets killed tomorrow nobody is suspicious that vivax is still alive still since he is a powerful town guy.
This theory works for a lot of the vets really but especially vivax who should have got the most cred.
No way mafia aren't using their abilities for that and kill Skynx unless it's a plan by mafia.
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On September 11 2016 03:02 Vivax wrote:Still unsure about fuba. Went through the guys voting TT atm and HF was the guy who originated that scumread, superbia chimed in but decided to instead vote TW for his read on TT. Haven't heard much from him since. Damdred adds to HF's points that his entrance was forced, that TT lurks as scum.As for fuba I have no clue what his reasons for voting TT are. The closest I got was this. Where he says to check his post above, but in that post he's adressing NUs posts. So still no clue what fubas reason for the vote on TT are. On page 1 he spends more time talking about TW than TT whom he's voting. If anyone has any idea what fuba is voting TT for, enlighten me. His biggish posts are townie but that might be wall of text bias. Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 08:50 fuba wrote: And before anyone mentions it, I am still voting for TT right now. If my post above didn't convince anyone, then I'm not going to have the impetus today and tomorrow to push it through. Scum NU doesn't eliminate scum TT as far as I can remember.
I work tomorrow from 8am-4pm, which is the deadline. I may be able to pop in about 3-4 hours before that for a few minutes, but will be otherwise unavailable.
On September 12 2016 06:04 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 05:39 Holyflare wrote: ALSO I don't like vivax's posts but I haven't read them either but when I skim I dislike all of it.
ALSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?
make him answer this shit Wut? He said it before the lynch, he then flipped town, so Damdred's meta turned out to be wrong. Why should I jump on somebody just for being wrong? The meta was legit, but turned out shitty.I might as well jump on anyone else for being on TT. But it was a solid lynch. I'm more concerned that I spotted the same pattern adopted on TT being used by you, but it's a big picture thing, and Damdred wasn't nearly as hyperbole as you on TT, or TW now.
Vivax accepting bull shit tt meta to allow him to be lynched after just seeing tt afk for 72 hours in star wars.
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On September 12 2016 08:37 Vivax wrote:Encrypted last wills, or how to turn a game of mafia into a Dan Brown book. Back to real business fun's over. A little test for HF if you will, finding out who wrote this before answering is against the rules, play fair: Show nested quote + I didn't see any reason that HF exaggerating his sureness was indicative of the case being bad. Though iirc he later mentions that he no longer had a scum read (or maybe it was just a weaker scum read? Would have to look it up) on tt and was lynching for information at that point. That bugs me.Mostly because I'm not sure how much reasonably confident information we got from the lynch. Maybe that'll come to me when I reread EoD. 1. Is bolded true? 2. Do you think this post is scummy? 3. Do you think this would ever be able to reach a correct conclusion as to your alignment and this player would believe he could? 4. Once you find out who posted this (you may now), why does he mention you in this way after stating another intention in writing this? A few more would come to mind but that'd be an assault on your attention span. I answered to your Damdred stuff, manus manum lavat.
Top of the post vivax comments about me and Scott with spectral votes etc.
I'd like to townread shapelog cause the fuba stuff started jumping to me when I found the energy to actually read his posts (which still ended up being only his last filter page and some from the early game) and he mentioned fubas flip floppy post parts, but it also felt like he was casually throwing suspicion at me at some points which seemed out of character. But other than this his early posts seemed townie to me.
Town reads Shapelog. Scum reads fuba and suoer all day (since day 1?)
On September 14 2016 01:18 Vivax wrote: Either way I have a dinner in 2-3 hours, dunno if I can make it for EoD. It's really really important we get a wagon going on fuba or super I don't want to come back and see a shenanny lynch.
Going to take a closer look at Damdred, just gut wise he has been appearing scummier than when he was mafia in his last games (which would mean he's town) . This game feels like one of the games where everyone relies on tone reading people and when somebody (read:I) goes for post analysis it's rejected as irrelevant.
Remember the me vs you vs yamato lylo damdred?
Fuba/damd/super scum reads and disappears to dinner (aka not playing the game at all)
In other words, I think mafia is still super/fuba + shape/palmar/HF if alive for too long. Shape especially has dropped off a lot activity wise and if anyone is going to shenanny, shenanny on shape. I'll join you if I make it, at least one of the unreadables will be gone. Don't really have much else to add on him.
Suddenly his town read on shape disappeared and me/palmar anr shape appear in a list.
On September 14 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote: I'm back. Damdred is being voted by calix, presumably, and Shape by scott. Fuba is a read magnet when it comes to his posts. It feels like lots of people think he's town but keep calling his posts bad.
If neither fuba nor super are happening I'm voting Shape. Not going to sit on solely my own wagon this time.
Suddenly he can't be bothered to push his wagons and doesn't want to vote into damdred or Skynx (his Skynx towm read being literally one sentence btw) and he afks on a vote he knows was potentially messed with because he acknowledged the happenings earlier.
On September 14 2016 05:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2016 05:20 Holyflare wrote: Wtf do you mean why? I left a message for scott since he left a message for me and it's not what I asked for. I am not aware of such a thing.
On September 14 2016 05:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote:On September 12 2016 08:59 Holyflare wrote: Hey scott if you're reading this your vote is likely to get manipulated now so my bad.
Uhhh also you should vote on the name on /m11 if damdred is mafia Didn't happen it's manipulated What if he doesn't think damdred is mafia? All this vote bullshit is wifom anyway I literally don't care about the vote I care about shape being the person I want to lynch next if we don't get super or fuba. You can wifom ride all you want it's not going to save him from me. The leeway time for my regular game buds is over. His first page is fear mongering on me all the time without ever calling me mafia. He spends an entire post discussing how a guide to reading him by rsoultin is wrong, in answer to Damdred. He spent the post arguing against Damdred that his TR on shape is wrong, basically. I'm still trying to figure out if there's more. The best thing I can think of in his defense is that he pointed out how fuba was flip floppy on some points. But otherwise I'm really unimpressed by shape this game, he loves to motivate town with youtube vids as well as town which is lacking this moment. He usually also is a much more constant presence. Not this in and out shape. And then there's the PoE, I'm certainly not ending on a wagon that HF/fuba/Palmar/super were on first, besides that I don't think Damdred and Skynx are our best lynches for today.
Remember when vivax town read shape and being faced with a manipulated vote wanted to be a hipster?
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Fuck quoting posts on a phone.
How did vivax suddenly switch from town reading shape to mafia reading him?
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I'd like to townread shapelog cause the fuba stuff started jumping to me when I found the energy to actually read his posts (which still ended up being only his last filter page and some from the early game) and he mentioned fubas flip floppy post parts, but it also felt like he was casually throwing suspicion at me at some points which seemed out of character. But other than this his early posts seemed townie to me.
All this vote bullshit is wifom anyway I literally don't care about the vote I care about shape being the person I want to lynch next if we don't get super or fuba.
You can wifom ride all you want it's not going to save him from me. The leeway time for my regular game buds is over.
His first page is fear mongering on me all the time without ever calling me mafia. He spends an entire post discussing how a guide to reading him by rsoultin is wrong, in answer to Damdred. He spent the post arguing against Damdred that his TR on shape is wrong, basically.
I'm still trying to figure out if there's more. The best thing I can think of in his defense is that he pointed out how fuba was flip floppy on some points. But otherwise I'm really unimpressed by shape this game, he loves to motivate town with youtube vids as well as town which is lacking this moment. He usually also is a much more constant presence. Not this in and out shape.
Relevant quotes from same day.
Miraculous read turnaround.
Gets his strongest scum read from shape.
Fuck shape is so mafia for these reasons that existed when i town read him.
Screw my scum reads here's a random wagon.
- vivax 'the mafia' nubbins
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Sheep me = win game
Ty for playing vivax gg
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Also I'm going to trust that Calix would have left a last will or voted nu if he was mafia so I can town read him without reading a single thing he's saying and flame calix if she's wrong end game
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The question is who is vivax with
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Well fuck I was meant to sleep hours ago bai
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You just said vivax pulled Shapelog read out of his anus and somehow magiced away his town read and ditched his scum reads
But now I'm mafia because I made some good nk wifom and actually proved his read was bull shit?
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I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.
These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me.
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On September 15 2016 11:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 11:07 Holyflare wrote: You just said vivax pulled Shapelog read out of his anus and somehow magiced away his town read and ditched his scum reads
But now I'm mafia because I made some good nk wifom and actually proved his read was bull shit? Well no if Vivax is mafia it's for withholding thoughts on Shapelog. He didn't ditch a scum read on Damdred as I've already explained. But yeah I spend a lot of time wavering and that pushed me back a bit.
I never even mentioned anything about damdred.
I'm saying he bull shitted a reason to switch on his partner to look good later when Shapelog dies (could have been modkilled). He didn't wager damdred would look towny and me and skynx switch.
There's no way vivax TOWN READS Shapelog and goes to dinner and MAGICALLY finds a reason to scum read Shapelog who he town reads and who he got his main scum read (fuba) from. He showed absolutely no hesitancy when I told him the votes were manipulated either. None whatsoever.
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On September 15 2016 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote: I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.
These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me. Who are you referring to here? Well activity wise you are a very strong scum player. I still think you do a lot of stupid things like make reads you wouldn't make as town and I thought you were scum in the obs QT as well.
Quote reads or this is bull shit. I can explain every read and move I make.
As mafia I'm 100x more careful.
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No he lists someone as town and then never is mentioned again and then after dinner just appears?
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I am exhausted and burnt out and yesterday i forgot portions of my journey and ended up where i needed to be.
So functioning just great
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