On September 09 2016 07:35 Calix wrote: No, moron. I'm not going to waste my time on 'convincing' you that I'm town. Nothing you said holds any weight. Go figure that I can't get a break from people scum-reading me for the worst reasons.
In any case, pretty sure you are town given your fixation on this 'scum tell' of mine. By all means continue to waste time asking 20 questions though until you wise the fuck up.
Why did this arouse me?
You secretly have a fetish for demanding women who uses the word "fixation".
I still think TPRs should use their actions every night. Agreed that Vig shouldn't shoot N1 - it's a mid-game thing given that Vig cannot shoot if the game hits five players. Pretty sure someone already said that TPR-directing = bad so won't harp on about that.
You get a Sheriff-Vig when someone is lynched, yes? They can use their LW to say "I checked X". On N2, the next person to get lynched can say "X is inno/ guilty"
(in retrospect, telling people who the Sheriff checked N1 is kind of dumb but that's what I was saying at the time, not implying that town had TPRs before N1)
Vig cannot shoot n1. Vig is person(s) who are NK.
They can check too.
One who is lynched are doctors.
Already talked about how hard it is to tell difference in altered LW. [quote]I will say that I do not like your slot. You've been sitting back, trying to read solely me and Calix, the new players, the low hanging fruits. You haven't tried to scum-hunt yet either, prefering to ask players some non-confrontational questions instead. Lean-scum.[/quote He should read me.
You get a Sheriff-Vig when someone is lynched, yes? They can use their LW to say "I checked X". On N2, the next person to get lynched can say "X is inno/ guilty"
You do, but they cannot interact with the town anymore. They share a QT, yo. Their LW will be ones they had as Vanilla Townies.
Sorry for pissing you off :3
No their LW would go out at the end of the cycle their flipped in. So, if I got NK, my LW would come out at the end of the D2 lynch.
On September 09 2016 07:51 Damdred wrote: I'm not understanding one of the reasons you scum read me. If I am trying to slow roll you and calix why do I town read both of you?
That leaves me,with hideous and horrid options this early in the game. And why should I scum,hunt atm I have a nice town circle starting in my mind I'll,just lynch outside it today.
@Shape hts would,be proud of me.
But on a serious nite shape, I like my read as a formative step. Both of them have an f u attitude and a don't back down attitude, that we mainly see come from an t v t perspective this early,
Atm I think vivax, cal and never are town. And I want to like you shape so say something I love you long time for
Eh I suck at reading fights. I might be harping on the meta their share, but that gives me such a negative taste to saying Never is town for the attitude. Cal eh, maybe. Since it comes from self defense. But content will eventually tell me if their town or not.
Besides, half the thread haven't even posted yet.
I will say "fuck you, you horrible, drunk, misrepresentation, of top tier TL mafia play." and that I really don't care if you TR me or not rn. You know what makes me town, and what makes me scum. I am not going to intentionally try to falter you. I am going to make you work at giving me a read, or lynch you for not doing anything.
On September 09 2016 07:59 Damdred wrote: Vivax is obviously town for today and I wouldn't lynch him until d2-3 even if he wasn't doing God's work today. Though his posts have been pretty nice even if I disagree at points.
And I am sort of scum hunting you just don't like the how which isn't of consequence nor a reason to scum read me.
What about the posts are nice?
And shape is one of more interesting scum players on site, so I'll always hold out on him.
Honestly Wheels on the bus is a symbolic song on how I play scum. Wheels on the bus go round and round, all through the town....
On September 09 2016 08:06 Damdred wrote: @Shape I'll answer seriously on vivax
Hrs inquisitive, he's confrontational and he is invested so far in hoe the game is being playrd. His tone fits into his town net a and him actually posting actually is a great sign.
Do I totally agree with him? Not really, but the angles he's coming at looks town and I like his posts.
So it's enough for a lean today.
Oh ninjaed.
See, I want to say active vivax is good vivax. But Koshi.....Holy shit Koshi is fucking scary. Breaking meta is real.
Eh, you might have a point about the confrontational part. I disagree about the tone at spots. I prob. look back his posts.
On September 09 2016 08:19 Shapelog wrote: Anyways
TickTock and fuba probs deserve a vote for fucking off right after posting, when the thread must have looked pretty busy already.
I wouldn't mind pressure voting them. Skynx can be in this pool too rn.
Calling a vote a "pressure vote" nullifies the intent.
Also, do you think TickTock's post was him trolling about rolling mafia or him rolling mafia and WIFOMing to be trolling about rolling mafia?
Calling a waitress at Hooters "strippers" nullifies the resultant theme.
I already talked about TT's post (aka I stated I didn't really like how he set himself up to be afk already). In regards to Mafia WIFOM, I couldn't tell you. I rolled 2 games with scum TT, and they were months/last year. I really didn't pay any attention to how much he WIFOMs people.
I am waiting till he comes back and posts (if he does) and go from there.
Damdred hasn't done enough really to warrant anything higher then null. Kinda weak rn. NU included Damdred into scumville. Made my opionon on their fight (NU and Cal) clear. Prob. reread it tomorrow. Vivax also in there in terms of reenvu. Though I have read some of his posts again, and see my earier grievance becoming less and less. Experienced players cannot give reads on me: + Show Spoiler +
Maybe because of what I did to damdred in storm/all last mafia games.
On September 09 2016 09:14 Damdred wrote: Honestly I'm good at reading you shape and I like hedging on you because you are better mafia player than you let on.
Anyway be back later
Aka, Wait till day 2 to see how I play.
Personally, this is my view on it, As scum, I am good at the more panning part of it. Voting maltupation, long term plans, WIFOM plays, who I need to push, blue sniping. All these things I am decent or good at I will admit. I understand how a mafia team needs to work, and how to "hide" my agenda as scum.
But my execution is horrible IMO. I have a hard time fake scum hunting as scum, which leads to me TR everyone. I lack anything strong in it. That is why I have to plan ahead, to try to look townie by WIFOM.
I think Rsoultin said it best, when she said I wasn't good. I am crazy,
On September 09 2016 09:24 Tumblewood wrote: there is one thing I have on Shapelog that makes me feel really smart. I think he is town because of his setup spec early game, because it shows that he is genuinely interested and not doing it for town cred because setup spec is generally something people scumread you for. not 100% but I'm sticking with it. other people: vivax is probably town just for tone and care-ness calix looks town and NU looks scum to me. even though their entrances were the same from a surface-level point of view, calix feels more genuine and helpful. Damdred interests me but I do not yet have feelings toward his alignment
Very, Very, Very, wrong logic. Right result. It honestly is a pile of BS.
Lets walk through it..
there is one thing I have on Shapelog that makes me feel really smart. I think he is town because of his setup spec early game, because it shows that he is genuinely interested and not doing it for town cred because setup spec is generally something people scumread you for. not 100% but I'm sticking with it. other people:
The underline is just so awful with the fact that he knows me, and how I am generally. I have claim scum as scum, claim scum as town. Took 2 blues (confirmed) to lylo. and....Talked Set up before as scum.
Not only that, but i can fake involvement as scum to a degree. And I know I have debated set up before as well in thread as well as scum.
Not only that still, but I never have care as scum if I get Scumread for posting something. yes, I try to get town cred, but I post without thinking as both alignment.
TLDR: Tumble should know better then this.
Rest of the post is eh.
On September 09 2016 09:31 Tumblewood wrote: on second thought NU confuses me too much to call him scum
This is bad logic.
see, the argument looks like wifom, because it is, but scum!shape is better at looking town than town!shape and is unlikely to do setup spec imo re: NU, I implied that NU did not feel genuine. sorry if that was unclear. and the genuineness was what differed, more or less. and ya Damdred interests me because of how he wants to form a town circle (and also his posting style - more on that eventually) already but I have not yet determined what this means about his alignment.
Town!Shape actually can look good now as town. Better then Scum!Shape.
You think the scum tell he was harping about wasn't a genuine reasoning to call cal scum?
-Tumble makes points about not being able to read newbies. could be attempt to get out of reading newbies.
-NU's reaction to tumbles post bout confusement is a line with mine reaction. points. -Cal is similar too.
About Cal, I thought of something last night. Tinfoil here, but cal is Mafia's Necromancer, and wanted to establish a format to make changes to LW's more believable. This could explain the focus on LW's on the entro post.The only thing against this, and that she did mention the risk of Necromancer changing.
TT-
The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.
My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.
Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.
Ok post that mimics my thoughts earlier.
On September 09 2016 10:17 Grackaroni wrote:
If you want me baby, put a ring on it.
Better act quick too, This deal might be over soon.
On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote: pls stop making me explain myself
Ok, I am going to explain basic logic.
Out of context, that gif seems like WTF what do they mean.
Don't be like that Gif.
On September 09 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote: To elaborate (yes without quoting posts go fuck yourself tt vivax surmises well that ticktock's entry is a cheap imitation of a post that got someome town read last game but that's not the only reason I'm voting him.
Read his filter and look at how forced it looks that he's giving out reads such as "I like this post" and similar crap.
But wait you say that's not enough oh great and wonderous Holyflare you are so great and wonderous surely there is more?
On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote: Ending pg7.
The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.
My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.
Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.
Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner.
The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts.
First of all his entire post is a giant trash paradox "oh wow setup is so shitty and boring here is some setup talk!" this also doesn't align with anything he said in the post either because if he is too bored to read other people talk about setup then why is he making a post that could well have already been said? Nah he's skimmed your posts and wants to fit in.
Then oh lokk I'm contributing after dinner spiel. Please TT i thought you at least had some high level mafia play.
He never said though that Setup talk was shitty.through. He just said it bores him, but ackolges the fact that it did generate content.
The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion
I can understand the paradox nature though now that you pointed it out. Also fits the Lazy painting he painted.
Also, waiting for you to fakeclaim a blue role this game.
On September 09 2016 11:46 Holyflare wrote:
Someone better sheep me real soon.
use a better Gif and maybe I will.
Actually I most likely will so
On September 09 2016 11:53 Holyflare wrote: Guess I'm gonna be getting off a lot of medic protects then.
Wait, what?
Your going to be lynching Townies?
As I said, I considered it, but your "GG ez, sheep me" behavior as well as your admittance of not reading through the whole thread are making me second-think this.
tl;dr I agree with your read, but you've got little credibility.
This post from NU reads off as a Paranoid town to me.
Can someone summarize the main points for me right now? I cannot catch up 40 pages roughly and give my vote in time. And I would like to at least know the main points in the pages I have missed.
The only thing that could in my mind, make TT town. Is nothing that TT has done. It falls upon voting logic. The highest counter wagon rn is at 2 votes, while TT is at 6. Which indicatives to me, that either mafia is bussing TT, or Mafia is fine lynching TT due to him being town. And that's it. Which is just awful to go off of.
TT's filter is Crap honestly. Reading it doesn't give me too much rn to go off of.
Nothing in TT's filter feels majorly town.
I am going to put my vote on him. And then catch up during the night phase.
On September 11 2016 06:08 Damdred wrote: Can we not blame anyone, it was a push and a lynch. Tjats how the game goes tbh and being condescending towards hf will only cause a nuclear war.
But grac defending but not defending and calix chainsaw wifom defense is strange on retrospect
"We cannot blame anyone for the lynch, let's blame everyone who was off the path?"
I think that was the post message.
I mean, I need to read it. But them defending TT could just be reg. town stuff.
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vivax surmises well that ticktock's entry is a cheap imitation of a post that got someome town read last game but that's not the only reason I'm voting him. ![[image loading]](https://media4.giphy.com/media/9c830567WqLCw/giphy.gif)
