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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
September 15 2016 19:55 GMT
#2541
On September 15 2016 20:26 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to pretend Grack doesn't exist btw.

a) I don't really think he's mafia
b) he's bad

How dare you, good sir. You lambaste my name most unjustly. I am outraged.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 15 2016 19:55 GMT
#2542
This is as good a reason as any other to lynch HF I don't need to disprove his arguments at all. I just need to prove why he's mafia. All you need to do is walk back to EoD and see him and superbia go ham once I drop my vote on Shape, then you should see the light.

On September 14 2016 06:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
On September 14 2016 05:21 Palmar wrote:
which one is the cop one?


Vengeful voting shape which is manipulated


Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
You're voting with a manipulated vote and expect to be town read?



Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 05:32 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax ignoring manipulated votes and actual posts in the game noted.


Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I hate 1/3 of shapes filter but i don't hate the other 2/3 is the problem


Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 05:57 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote Shapelog


Case:

- HF attacks me voting Shape for the VS vote.
- Slowly realizing shape is in danger of being lynched, he actually reads his filter (first time?). Shitty defense.
- When enough pressure built up, the bus ensued after he spent the entire day trying to murder other people.


If you really want to do NK analysis, here's what Skynx got iced for cause HF was confident that Tumble would be easy to manipulate.

On September 15 2016 03:09 Skynx wrote:
Vivax is also right about HF with the voting the manipulated ghost stuff thingy, HF is prolly scum.

Basically he's bussing, he never had an opinion on Shape, he called ghost vote on Shape bullshit, he voted me as his top sr then said he voted mafia (shape) when he didn't need to. Try to fit that in a town mindset plz ty.


If you think I bussed Shape in that situation, read again. I was set on voting him even before the vote HF dismissed as a scum vote appeared (which is one of the arguments HF is using). You have to play the game and actually read it. I'm already spoonfeeding you enough arguments, and once you go back and see it's all true, you can make the right decision. Trust me who was townie all game long and lynched mafia, or trust one of the top mafia players on this site who defended shape by attacking me and then ended up voting him.

That's all you need. Nothing else is required to lynch HF. You find one mistake, and you push him for it, which I did already. This game is lynch HF, lynch superbia, win. I don't even want to try and attempt at looking elsewhere while he's alive. That's just pointless distraction, it cost me the Palmar push in star wars he was supporting for lulz.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 15 2016 19:59 GMT
#2543
Although admittedly I was wrong on scott, but stuff is hard before a scum lynch. Here I got one scum lynched, I'm gonna get the other two lynched as well. Or shot if town ends up being retarded.

Never vote NU, TW, me who were the purest votes on shape (HF just bussed to not look like shite, Damdred voted to save himself but I'm still assuming he's town). Lynch everything else until no scum is left. We have like 3 lynches left and maybe protection in the night. Saul Goodman.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:01 GMT
#2544
you're literally saying my mistake is voting mafia I don't even understand your logic
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:06 GMT
#2545
On September 14 2016 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
You've just quoted exactly things that prove my point? I didn't like vivax ignoring posts that he was around to see, it looked scummy as fuck.

Then he posted a wall of text explaining his vote and it looked less scummy.

And also the fact is i just didn't care about who i voted for all that much and i voted on a wagon that didn't have a guy who looked a bit towny.

It's not scummy at all. I don't care if it had scum reads on because those can and likely will be wrong but gut feels and shenanigans are always awesome.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:08 GMT
#2546
Either way maybe you should reread my case because it's actually quite a deep flaw in your Shape read.

He was your town read, he gave you your biggest scum read on fuba, nothing changed other than 0 posts and he suddenly became your lynch choice when people were piling on damdred, it didn't make sense when damdred was also your scum read.

It looked like your team mate was afk and you wanted to not be on a potentially town damdred wagon and decided to just make up bull shit to be on him to look good later
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 15 2016 20:10 GMT
#2547
On September 16 2016 05:01 Holyflare wrote:
you're literally saying my mistake is voting mafia I don't even understand your logic


On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.

These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me.


If your defense is only that you would have pushed him "harder", I rest my case. It means nothing that you voted mafia at the point you did. You just caught a whiff of the thread sentiment switching towards the shape vote, thread sentiment I fueled.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 15 2016 20:14 GMT
#2548
On September 16 2016 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
Either way maybe you should reread my case because it's actually quite a deep flaw in your Shape read.

He was your town read, he gave you your biggest scum read on fuba, nothing changed other than 0 posts and he suddenly became your lynch choice when people were piling on damdred, it didn't make sense when damdred was also your scum read.

It looked like your team mate was afk and you wanted to not be on a potentially town damdred wagon and decided to just make up bull shit to be on him to look good later


Damdred was my scum read? He was in nullish pile all the time I decided to give it a go at TRing him EoD and all my reasoning is laid out. Stop inventing things it's pitiful
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:19 GMT
#2549
I think you're full of shit if you ever think you have enough thread pull over me. Why would I not just shout to lynch damdred who was 1 vote away, literally my vote away from dying.

If damdred is mafia I look 1000000x better staying on him.

If damdred is town then I don't lost a mislynch either.

If damdred is mafia then I yell a shit tonne and get more cred and make you look awful.

but my mafia tactic was to say absolutely nothing with force and instead vote with my scum reads who weren't particularly my scum reads and look bad?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:22 GMT
#2550
On September 16 2016 05:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2016 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
Either way maybe you should reread my case because it's actually quite a deep flaw in your Shape read.

He was your town read, he gave you your biggest scum read on fuba, nothing changed other than 0 posts and he suddenly became your lynch choice when people were piling on damdred, it didn't make sense when damdred was also your scum read.

It looked like your team mate was afk and you wanted to not be on a potentially town damdred wagon and decided to just make up bull shit to be on him to look good later


Damdred was my scum read? He was in nullish pile all the time I decided to give it a go at TRing him EoD and all my reasoning is laid out. Stop inventing things it's pitiful


yes I forget you mentioned the main lynch wagon only once and said he was incredibly scummy but called him town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:24 GMT
#2551
just go to my post case and talk about that, it's the ultimate way to just prove yourself town
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 15 2016 20:27 GMT
#2552
You keep arguing that you wouldn't vote Shape like that as mafia.

What matters is why you would do that as town. Why did you vote Shape after everything in your posts suggested that you wouldn't? You spent all that time arguing that it was a manipulated vote, why did you follow it? Try reversing your reasoning there instead of using the defensive one.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 15 2016 20:29 GMT
#2553
All this conversation only has one goal, HF: To make me call you town so you can survive. But it's not going to happen. I've already decided you have to die, and no argument is going to change that, it's only reinforcing it.

And with this, I pass the ball to the other players and will reply to them instead which is a much more productive approach.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:34 GMT
#2554
I explained my vote why don't you listen?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:37 GMT
#2555
On September 15 2016 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
the town mindset is I didn't want to vote a guy that sounded townie and I have no qualms killing an afk guy that has several scummy bits in his filter

simple

i don't care if all my scum reads are voting for him why would I ever vote someone that sounds like he's town?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 15 2016 20:41 GMT
#2556
On September 16 2016 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
the town mindset is I didn't want to vote a guy that sounded townie and I have no qualms killing an afk guy that has several scummy bits in his filter

simple

i don't care if all my scum reads are voting for him why would I ever vote someone that sounds like he's town?



You sounded convinced that the vote was manipulated though. That doesn't appear in your reasoning, it was the only fucking reason you were on my ass HF. And it's the reason you don't care about in the slightest when explaining your vote on Shape.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:49 GMT
#2557
There's a case on you, people are going to vote you, they want explanation, what you're doing here is relinking your original case which clearly 0 people are agreeing with because they aren't jumping on top of it. It's not scummy what I did in the slightest.

You are living up to mafia vivax and doing NO work here at all. You've even already made an excuse about doing nothing today but lynching me. It's typical mafia vivax.

Meanwhile I've been finding everything I can about people's filters and quoting posts and doing all the leg work while everyone sits back and does nothing.

You like a case based game, you're one of the biggest scum reads today, skynx died over you for no reason whatsoever, the biggest scummy bull shit is this:

If you really want to do NK analysis, here's what Skynx got iced for cause HF was confident that Tumble would be easy to manipulate.

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 03:09 Skynx wrote:
Vivax is also right about HF with the voting the manipulated ghost stuff thingy, HF is prolly scum.

Basically he's bussing, he never had an opinion on Shape, he called ghost vote on Shape bullshit, he voted me as his top sr then said he voted mafia (shape) when he didn't need to. Try to fit that in a town mindset plz ty.


This applies to you, if you're so obviously towny and had such a solid scum read on shapelog then why aren't you dead?!?!?!?!?!?




Disregarding all of this you keep spouting on about how it was some bs defence of shape for scum reading you ignoring the manipulated vote, that's just a question and it's the most basic question "why is this guy voting for someone when we've talked about the vote and it's manipulated", no defence, it's scummy to do and a perfect question to ask when you're voting someone nobody was on.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 15 2016 20:52 GMT
#2558
On September 14 2016 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 07:44 Grackaroni wrote:
You voted Shapelog with skynk/tw/vivax after spending the better part of the EoD arguing these guys were mafia while also saying that the vs vote was a scum vote.

I don't see how you could ever agree with that lynch as town.


I didn't vote with them i voted for myself. I also voted before Skynx had even said anything. Damdy sounded towny and I simply voted the counter wagon. I didn't like some of his filter, i thought the vote could be wifom to put people off a team mate too.

Unless you think damdy is mafia too then I pretty much saved his life for no reason other than to look bad for voting with vivax who I'm not even scum reading incredibly much and less so if i decide damdred is town.

Simple fact is i voted mafia when i didn't need to

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 15 2016 20:53 GMT
#2559
I didn't believe the vote was manipulated, you did. You called me mafia for voting with the manipulated vote, then voted with it yourself, what does that make you then? At the very least it makes you a hypocrite, at its worst it makes you a liar.

You're not townie for vomiting posts continuously, it didn't make you town in star wars either when we were talking in the thread solo for 70 % of the game. I've learned my lesson it's time the rest learns it too.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 15 2016 20:55 GMT
#2560
On September 16 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
On September 14 2016 07:44 Grackaroni wrote:
You voted Shapelog with skynk/tw/vivax after spending the better part of the EoD arguing these guys were mafia while also saying that the vs vote was a scum vote.

I don't see how you could ever agree with that lynch as town.


I didn't vote with them i voted for myself. I also voted before Skynx had even said anything. Damdy sounded towny and I simply voted the counter wagon. I didn't like some of his filter, i thought the vote could be wifom to put people off a team mate too.

Unless you think damdy is mafia too then I pretty much saved his life for no reason other than to look bad for voting with vivax who I'm not even scum reading incredibly much and less so if i decide damdred is town.

Simple fact is i voted mafia when i didn't need to



If you're 100 % sure it was a wifom vote, cause apparently you are 100 % sure it wasn't scott's vote, then you are also aware that mafia was trying to frame shape as town.
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