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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 21:07 GMT
#1238
Tictock has been replaced by scott31337, who will become the Vengeful Spirit.

Wtf
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 21:08 GMT
#1242
Tomorrow is without a doubt Calix.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 21:09 GMT
#1250
On September 11 2016 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
But you think I'm mafia


Why does Tumblewood keep taunting me? This is incongruent with his thought process entirely. He thinks I'm mafia so I've successfully got my mislynch and he's still taunting?

Nah mate.

Cakix +tw
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 21:11 GMT
#1254
On September 11 2016 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
We explained why your reasons for thinking tt are town are literally the shittest in the game. You still push the rhetoric that yoir wifom is the correct logic though despite 5 people telling you otherwise.

If tt is town that is why you are mafia because you got shown 5000 other wifom situations that make sense and you picked the right one.


^ Calix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 21:12 GMT
#1262
On September 11 2016 06:11 Skynx wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/238343-player-replacement?page=16#302

We are all blind


Oh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 21:15 GMT
#1270
On September 11 2016 06:12 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
We explained why your reasons for thinking tt are town are literally the shittest in the game. You still push the rhetoric that yoir wifom is the correct logic though despite 5 people telling you otherwise.

If tt is town that is why you are mafia because you got shown 5000 other wifom situations that make sense and you picked the right one.


^ Calix


No they aren't. Thinking that a bad wagon is a town wagon because of a lack of resistance + scummy voters is using the thread to draw a conclusion. That's not a WIFOM situation.


I'm going to quote all of your bad posts when I have a computer because they are real leaps.

You scum read tt and when it looked like he's getting lynched WITH 3 PEOPLE you give wifom reasons that he's town because nobody is defending him.

I give a list of 6 ppl diverting the lynch from tt and you keeo wifoming that he's not mafia for no real reason.

Explain your logic to the thread again please it shouldn't be hard.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 21:16 GMT
#1276
I will allow you to lynch me tomorrow Tumblewood and grack just so i can shoot calix and not have to push something else. I guess i can make some posts too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#1358
On September 11 2016 06:23 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:
UPDATE -- SINCE I THINK THAT CALIX IS TOWN, I WILL MAKE A LAST WILL IN WHICH I WILL INCLUDE INFORMATION ONLY SHE CAN KNOW. SHE WILL CONFIRM THAT MY LW IS IN FACT MINE (if she is town).

@scott1337 -- Do not shoot N1. Your shot is most likely going to be neutered by the Death Whisperer.

the last will stuff falls into sketchy rules area that may or may not result in mid action. I'd be careful and check with a host first.
and Scott should shoot Hf. something something "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" plus it means Hf won't get a chance to shoot calix


Whenever you wanna stop slipping :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 22:06 GMT
#1371
On September 11 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:44 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:37 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:36 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:35 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:31 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:28 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:27 Calix wrote:
Damdred had 2 votes. HF had 2 votes until I voted for him within the last 10 minutes.

Continue to mischaracterise the situation, why don't you?


Did you actually try to convince people to go on damdred? I recall you actually being pretty quiet during the final (and most important) hour.


Yes, idiot.

And the overall response was "Damdred can be useful if he's town" and "TT is a better option, let's sheep his train"

You said yourself that "TT would have posted if he was town" - how do I argue with such stellar reasoning exactly?


I'll see when I reread EoD.


You haven't answered how I would have countered that kind of point.

Your reasoning for joining the TT train is extremely weak and you have nothing to say about that when you were proven wrong, eh?


TT is a good town who literally stopped posting when someone put pressure on him. Like I am expecting him, as town, to come in and defend himself or at least do fucking something.


lol so the possibility of him being legitimately AFK never occurred to you? Calling bullshit.


For an entire day and a half? Right at the point when pressure is applied to him? Was highly unlikely.

The fact remains that TT was indeed objectively scummy and that people have defended him for completely shitty reasons. As it stands, we, as town, should always look at the people who defended him because:
- There was literally no good reason to believe he is town as town because towns never know for certain. There simply is no(t enough) town-alignment-indicative information provided by TT to ever read him town, and all the reasons to put pressure on him and/or read him mafia.
- Therefore; a town should never defend TT because they should never read him town. UNLESS it is strictly BECAUSE people are defending TT (mafia-defense etc.).
- Also it is possible that a town null-reads TT but would much rather push his own target, but that's different from defending.


If a train is utter shit, the trained player is in most cases TOWN. Calix and I have explained many times how the train was shit and that TT was most likely town given this. Do you not do VCA in TL?

Also, we were pushing for Damdred, but it did not get attention because the scum were most likely drawing everyone's attention to TT, leaving our case in the shadows.


If i recall you were concerned when people were jumping on tt who hadn't said much.

She qas concerned when she agreed tt wws scummy, the person voting for him and making the case(me) should be likely towny and the other 2 weren't particularly suspicious.

Literally 3 votes on a person and she called him town because of what mafia aren't doing even though 6 people were afj and any or all of them could be mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 22:09 GMT
#1373
On September 11 2016 07:02 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:59 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:57 Calix wrote:
Also I haven't used TT's mislynch as a "I told you so" thing. You people keep saying "Calix defended TT" but you haven't said what I would actually get out of it.

I'm not using TT's mislynch to push a scum-read on anyone. I'm not saying "I told you so". I'm not saying I am town for defending TT. I am not saying I am town for making this post "cuz WIFOM lul"

But fuck WIFOM for a second...what exactly would scum!Calix get out of this if not those things?


No, no.

What are you getting out of this as town, exactly?


Showing that the scum-read on me for defending TT is shitty, duh.

I'm asking for what intent I would have, as scum, to defend TT.

Also if it wasn't obvious, I hate 'WIFOM' as a response. That's almost-always been a cop-out way of saying "I have no retort but I won't say as much" like seriously.


You get a mislynch and you appear to not be on the wrong wagon while you point out how bad people are for joining it when "it's obviously a mislynch" as you've done by pointing to a list of me/super/damd post lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 22:11 GMT
#1375
The general feeling i get from cal is "aggressively pushing 0 mafia reads" and instead "aggressively pushing points".
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 22:11 GMT
#1376
Rapid dog missing its teeth.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 22:11 GMT
#1377
Rabid anyway drunk time bye
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 00:52 GMT
#1425
On September 11 2016 07:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I've reviewed Skynx's EoD filter, and I am mixed.

For one, I can see his train of though evolving through his posts, and so his vote didn't feel forced.

For two, and this point is sort of a contradiction to point one, he said that he was going to vote for
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:49 Calix wrote:
Skynx, pls give your ideal targets instead of making an open-ended appeal.

Palmar, Shape, Super. Possibly Damdred.


He then started to argue with HF saying that his reasoning was bad and that he should feel bad.
After, he says this
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 05:00 Skynx wrote:
On September 11 2016 04:58 Vivax wrote:
On September 11 2016 04:55 Tumblewood wrote:
yo calix, Damdred's meta D1 as town is to try and form a town circle (and to a lesser extent all game). he is also a valuable townie because that is a useful strategy.


His scum play has become really good. I won't lynch him D1 by default but I'm certainly still open to the idea of him being mafia. If he actually lynched mafia at some point ahead that would make things easier.

HF and Palmar are roughly in the same category.

The idea of the town circle is only as good as the town circle itself, so don't really see any grounds for this being a reason to TR Damdred.

The point is we're not lynching Damdred today. We need to form some sort of circle and decide on something.
Let's ignore Palmar cuz ppl don't want to lynch him, which of Super, Shape, TT you want to lynch most?


Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 05:06 Skynx wrote:
Shape's filter is ever so slightly better than I originally anticipated, I'm voting TT.


Somehow TT sneaked into his lynch pool without previous notice. It's a big contradiction considering he disagreed with HF.

For three, he says this
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 05:16 Skynx wrote:
Calix, if there is no obv scum plynches are ok D1. HF is trying to paint TT as scum but just ignore that its a plynch.


He says that HF is painting TT as scum, but then votes him and says that it's a PL? I understand that he didn't have a strong scum-read, but voting someone who he acknowledges has aa shitty train on him is brutally bad when there were other possible PLs he himself proposed.

The rest of his posts felt town, nothing to report. Conclusion: Despite his actions not matching his words and acting shady, I still think that Skynx is town because of his tone, his attempts to town-hunt (and thus scum-hunting by poe), his uncertainty, and his reasoning.

Thoughts?

Very goos point my friend i agree
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 01:07 GMT
#1427
I'm not here i have frienes and obligations
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 01:46 GMT
#1432
I like you shape
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 02:29 GMT
#1437
On September 11 2016 11:03 Tumblewood wrote:
this whole game is divided in half
me, grack, fuba, calix, NU, skynx
vs
shape, Hf, super, palmar
with Damdred and vivax chilling on the side
this is not healthy for town. I think the piece we're missing is convincing everyone who was on tictock that calix isn't mafia for being off him. I should do that sometime


This isn't us against them and you're the only one thinking that at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 10:03 GMT
#1443
So we kill Tumblewood next.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 10:15 GMT
#1445
On September 11 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote:
or did TMI get changed to Takes Minimal Intelligence and no one told me?
ok I'm done being snarky for now. just know that Hf and two people between super/damdred/palmar/shape are the scum team, and grack is #1 best townie in the game.


The 2/3 people that want calix lynched are all tw's scum reads and the only thing tw thinks is a good idea is to make a TOWN case on a player his mafia reads are pushing that was really bad and didn't really display towniness at all. I seem ti remember mafia tw making tmi town cases on me and someone else mentioned it.

It's really off, coupled with the 4 or 5 slips.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 10:16 GMT
#1446
Also, yeh, damdy could well be mafia now that I'm not drunk since he's been kind of a wet noodle all game and sidelining.
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