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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 15 2016 08:42 GMT
#12
Host came prepared.

/in

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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 15 2016 15:26 GMT
#16
Silly heyoka, who said anything about rex?
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 13:45:21
August 16 2016 09:50 GMT
#30
The force is strong with this game.

Foolishness Profile Blog PM Joined May 2009 United States3015 Posts
1 hour ago #5686


It's all good, we got it sorted out. Rels told me he wanted to wait a bit for Palmar's game to be over, and that he doesn't mind if you host first. So you can keep your game open (though signups might take a bit, as I'm sure you're already noticed) and Rels will host his game after yours.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!

Signup sesame now open!
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 21 2016 19:14 GMT
#35
theme game, huh?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 23 2016 10:33 GMT
#39
On August 23 2016 09:00 Tictock wrote:
I think it's kinda a pain to get a thread's title changed.


Never created one, so I wouldn't know.

It just seemed weird is all. Rels?
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 27 2016 20:00 GMT
#103
/confirm
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 28 2016 22:07 GMT
#207
I hope the host provided the scumteam with the VT flavor, or this will be a concise town victory.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 28 2016 22:14 GMT
#218
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 28 2016 22:29 GMT
#226
Calling people morons is too.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 28 2016 22:31 GMT
#228
LAL
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 28 2016 22:35 GMT
#232
I'm Kang ®§, the general.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 28 2016 22:38 GMT
#234
Scum confirmed.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 29 2016 10:18 GMT
#392


I am the most polarizing element in the game, hijole!

I should do something other than mimicking Slam.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 29 2016 10:44 GMT
#398
On August 29 2016 19:23 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 19:18 Race Bannon wrote:


I am the most polarizing element in the game, hijole!

I should do something other than mimicking Slam.

Out of curiosity, why did you talk about the vanilla role pm? Give us YOUR version of it.

A wifom reaction test. Not sure about the reactions though. I wouldn't want to lynch the people who took sides on my alignment bearing in mind what I've said just yet. Palmar and disfo on one side, and geript, Koshi on the other, I'd like to keep at least until day 3.

Also, I will address the elephant in the room once more, and say that the PM flavor =/= OP flavor. Therefore I am nonplussed about Trfel, scott and Palmar explicitly claiming it not be so, while others at least circumvented commenting directly on this issue, and wound up discussing my alignment instead .. which could be a sign of scum probing for information following the scare that the game might be breakable.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 29 2016 11:01 GMT
#400
Anyway, @Koshi does it n any way influence your read of Tumblewood that he told DanelerH not to put too much weight on contribution .. when you yourself made an aegument that geript's posts were more likely to come from town because of their volume?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 29 2016 21:02 GMT
#500
On August 30 2016 05:53 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Ok Dane, I have a task for you. Ignore what everyone says and go with your own flow. Perhaps read my filter and cases on tumble etc as a starting point and see what happens.

The first step of mafia is to ignore what everyone else says and post whatever comes to your mind. No holding back if you have nothing to hide.


i think i might be playing this game horribly wrong.

No you're not. You, I and everyone else know playing this game is all about telling the new guy how to play the game, and giggle maliciously to yourself when he listens to you so don't let HF win, unless you two are a team in which case you share the bragging rights equally. Are you .. in a team with HF .. playing ping pong with the newblood, hmm?
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 29 2016 21:08 GMT
#510
On August 30 2016 06:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 06:03 Palmar wrote:
On August 30 2016 05:43 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, Vivax, TW

My best guesses for mafia.

jesus koshi

God Koshi.

You should know.

Ok, I've had it with the references to that game.

vote: Koshi
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 29 2016 21:31 GMT
#519
On August 30 2016 06:25 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 06:08 Race Bannon wrote:
On August 30 2016 06:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 30 2016 06:03 Palmar wrote:
On August 30 2016 05:43 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, Vivax, TW

My best guesses for mafia.

jesus koshi

God Koshi.

You should know.

Ok, I've had it with the references to that game.

vote: Koshi


Best case all game..../s

You're damn right about that.



































































The one on you is better.

[image loading]

Mine is only close second.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 29 2016 21:44 GMT
#530
On August 30 2016 06:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 06:37 Tumblewood wrote:
damn rels is playing now

sorry to disappoint

So Tumble told rels to lurk it out until EoD, and now rels is apologizing for disobedience. Does anyone else read this tinfoil from the tone?
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 29 2016 21:47 GMT
#532
Me getting scumread by Tumble in 5

4
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 08:20 GMT
#612
Trfel scott scumbuds
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 14:21 GMT
#662
Vvivax ;-; just wow. I'm impressed.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 14:21 GMT
#663
Rereading the thread now, I'm at #180; having fun.

As soon as I get bored I'll pause to post some reads. Expect awesomeness.

Ok, I've decided not to post the above, am writing this instead and plan to copy it and keep reading and adding. When I will eventually paste and post, it will look and feel like this giant snowball of scumbarelaying nightmare for scum. And then I'll vote scum, superlatively formatted.

On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?


More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons?


This. I expect scum to slip when they're being questioned about a post, as opposed to during the initial post. In this case I think Vivax gave himself away when he failed to censor out the wording which indicates a conspiratorial approach to this conversation. He says "other reasons", as if fostering an air of mystery around the faction which he is a part of, whereas town would ask "is he more protective of Rels because of mafia reasons".

##vote: Vivax

On August 29 2016 06:56 Palmar wrote:
I declare this game to be a case game. This means that if you want someone to get lynched, you post a case. Don't just talk in stupid circles and spam for ages, make a case, summarize your points and make it concise.


If Vivax's initial platform for the case on scott (what grack did as scum in 72h) has merit, then I'm entitled to compare Palmar's post with Rels' (also endgaming scum), where he said they should never make use of the quicklynch mechanic. It's in the ballpark of trying to establish an early authoritatively presence in terms of agenda. But frankly I don't think it has merit, for one because I believe Vivax is scum. Meta is very unreliable as base for a case, but in this case it's not even the meta of the suspect, rather some random meta from a recent game; so that's double trouble.

Furthermore I'd expect a disciplined townie, which I think Vivax is judging by how he kept his cool during LightningStrike's vulgar, verbal assault on him in Onegu I game, I expect him to let the case speak for itself, instead of showing aggressive bullying tactics, to promote its apparent quality, I believe for the sake of looking townie because emotions are townread more often than not. And again, I feel like he grounded his case on someone else's meta, so objectively speaking it's not going to fly as a real case.

On August 29 2016 07:02 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested. I don't think Tfrel has the balls to come out and claim scum. He was superscared last game as mafia. I would be VERY surprised if he turned that around so fast.

Almost 100% lock town tbh.


If anything I think people make a conscious habbit of rehashing their exact behavioral pattern from their towngames, as scum, in games where the same players are present. So I remember Koshi bringing up the exact same argument about me not having the balls to do whatever I did in my scumgame. Therefore this looks more like a manipulation designed specifically for me to get a meta townread on him, bearing in mind that we've interacted enough for him to catch and try to anchor my attention in this preconceived way.
The fact that he voiced and kept claiming suspicion against me, for no reason, speaks for this as well. Anyone who says I'm scummy looks very bad, but for some reason geript is getting more votes, despite Koshi being the scummier of the two from this perspective.

The thing about geript is .. to use Koshi's attempt at alignment indication .. would scum geript say he agrees with Palmar and then scumread me like a boss anyway? I think not, and lynching geript today could mean lynching a valuable, methodical asset to town, and one of the biggest threats to scum domination. Do not! I repeat, no lyncherinho geript today.. pl0x

On August 29 2016 07:33 Palmar wrote:
also I'm a moron, this is on the thing.

I don't think that changes Race's thought patter.

Like, why would anyone make that "mistake" as any other role than vanilla town. Like there's basically 99% chance he read his role pm, figured that it would be hard for mafia to fake it and just rolled with it. The alternative scenario that he is mafia, figures that vanilla role pm might be weird, and instead of begging host for it (if he genuinely didn't know it was in the op) and decides to come up with this weird ruse hoping someone jumps it (like I'm doing now) and calls him town for it.

It's just way too complicated.

The simple solution is, Race Bannon is town. probably. (maybe).

I could've said this as vt, pr, scum or sk.. I repeat, it was a wifom reaction test.

On August 29 2016 07:33 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm not only fairly sure he's town, I'm fairly sure he's precisely vanilla town.

No. Turn around, walk a few steps and stay put at maybe.

On August 29 2016 08:00 Koshi wrote:
Tumble has the "Vivax is town" mafia addendum.
Disformation has the "oh wait it is probably breaking meta" mafia addendum

This is my Koshi & Vivax are scum addendum.

Don't lynch disfo, Holyflare, geript today.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 14:36 GMT
#666
It's a tone read, and easily mistakable for semantic nitpicking. But there is substance behind it, in terms of everything coming together in a way that exposes Vivax as a dirty little scumfuck.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 14:57 GMT
#668
On August 30 2016 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I like this post. If you gonna call me mafia at least call me a dirty little scumfuck, or a conspiring backstabber. Just don't randomly shit on my posts.

It would make sense for you to say that, if your case was good. Do you believe your case was good?

I'm asking because I believe that scumhunting is about forcing scum into a corner where they have to lie, and hope that I can tell when that happens.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 15:08 GMT
#673
On August 31 2016 00:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 23:57 Race Bannon wrote:
On August 30 2016 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I like this post. If you gonna call me mafia at least call me a dirty little scumfuck, or a conspiring backstabber. Just don't randomly shit on my posts.

It would make sense for you to say that, if your case was good. Do you believe your case was good?

I'm asking because I believe that scumhunting is about forcing scum into a corner where they have to lie, and hope that I can tell when that happens.


Absolutely I believe my case was good, I also believe the arguments on TW are good. I am just too proud to admit it and switch my vote, which won't be necessary cause I'm fairly sure mafia is getting trashed.

1. It was fairly early and scott hasn't posted enough for a good case.
2. A meta argument stemming from someone other than the person being cased has no place in the case, no prominent place, no less prominent place, no place.(period)

On August 31 2016 00:00 Vivax wrote:
Palmar abandoned his push on geript in super lightning mode once it stopped gaining traction which I don't like at all.

So maybe there is a bit of swagger to be had still. Palmar, Tumblewood and...scott? Like Palmar didn't even spend a single post on the case on scott, maybe cause he felt like he didn't have to since it's still very much under the radar. But I feel like Palmar is mafia in this game, cause for the fact he's playing there's very little conviction behind his own arguments, and he sucked up to Koshi which is a nono for town Palmar.

You're theorzing scum triangle constellations already? Where does this hubris stem from.

The impression I got from Palmar is that he does exactly this: migrate from one place to another, seemingly caring only about the size of wagons for pressure.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 17:57 GMT
#739
On August 31 2016 01:57 scott31337 wrote:
Interesting perspective - but do you think if Vivax and Koshi were a team he would reply to Vivax's "case" on me like he did? It just seems really complicated and unneeded. I do not think they are the same alignment.

Whatever he said might have come from both alignments, maybe even more so from scum. Take my newbie game for instance where artanis fostered this tactic of interacting with his buddies as much as possible, which resulted in ripples of unneeded complication as I was defending his attacks, and skated to victory because the other suspicious guy had little to no interaction with him.

Also any case PR is good PR, and inprints into people minds that you are lynchable today. That said, I haven't re-read that part yet, so I might be trippin', but consider the following quote again, when weighing the odds of them being scum together:

On August 29 2016 08:00 Koshi wrote:
Tumble has the "Vivax is town" mafia addendum.
Disformation has the "oh wait it is probably breaking meta" mafia addendum

It was part of a sequence of posts made in a short timeframe, he litterally voted .. made that post a minute later, then voted someone else, so that makes it an opportune time to slip, lol.

It boils down to this: how can he warrant using vivax's alignment to incriminate Tumble here, hmm? Even if it's sort of a transition to disformation, that's not important. He's basically scumclaiming for both him and vivax.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 19:25 GMT
#765
On August 31 2016 02:58 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure you don't even understand what I wrote.

You were pretending to "weigh" which is scummier, Tumble or disformation, based on their addendum involving having called vivax town, and trfel breaking meta, respectively.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 20:16 GMT
#792
On August 31 2016 05:12 Koshi wrote:
oh deadline is in 50 mins indeed. Thought it was in 2 hours.

Hey me too.

So what did I not understand, about that post of yours.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 20:21 GMT
#798
On August 31 2016 05:18 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote:
fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript.


What about his responses make you think he's town?

Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him.

his vote is still on geript.
he will have to vote scott for survival which is perfectly nai.

Who except Trfel and Vivax made a case against scott? Can yoube persuaded to help nudge along a Koshi or Vivax choochoo?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 30 2016 21:00 GMT
#902
There's something I noticed about myself. I fucking hate it when the acting is so bad that I'm constantly being reminded of how it's a movie I'm watching. Either the acting, sometimes the casting irrevocably dooms that department entirely, or the camera keeps shaking stupidly erratic, especially when 3d, my word. Is it so hard to empathize with the viewer experience and just take Alejandro Inarritu's success as a hint? FFS, and the mobile phones.. the stupid kids with their availability issues.

The same goes for people breaking the reading experience in forum mafia. When I'm hosting I'll totally modkill, and taste the full flavor of the subsequent bitch-fest and enjoy it to the fullest, when someone looses even a coherent sentence about anything other than game-relevant material, except material used for jokes or whatever.

I vehemently denounce this entitlement of a player to think they can bring into this picture their real life persona, what they're doing or would like to do outside of this game.. who the fuck wants to see a player as anything other than the cog in the machinery. Random people .. evoking contexts like wht they eat, where they drive, dota and wow .. what? Why is this relevant to my experience? I am well advised to decide that scum could just as well lie about being unavailable and some such, so where's the fucking point of interluding the flow of relevant conversation, just to "announce" I'll want to play dota .. like "wrap this up people, I got somewhere to be". No you don't you piece of shit. You don't exist outside the context of this game, for anyone inside this game. .. For real.

Sry, meant to play but had to get this off my chest.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 07:58 GMT
#986
On August 31 2016 16:29 Trfel wrote:
Race Bannon
(...)
So, I don't think that any of his arguments make sense this whole game.

I don't think you think that.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 08:03 GMT
#989
On August 31 2016 17:01 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 16:58 Race Bannon wrote:
On August 31 2016 16:29 Trfel wrote:
Race Bannon
(...)
So, I don't think that any of his arguments make sense this whole game.

I don't think you think that.
Glad to see that as soon as I scumread you, you appear It's like magic!

Do you have any further comments on my case?

Yes, and I though I made myself clear. I'd like you to elaborate on my arguments. AMA
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 08:25 GMT
#994
omg you spoilered it, wtf.
Trfel:
I really, really don't understand why this is significant, in the slightest. "Other reasons" implies that one possibility is the subject being mafia.

This is my point, why would a townie imply anything, when he can simply say the subject might be mafia.. the dramatic aspect of it makes me think that this is a juncture, where wording diverges based on alignment.

Allow me to restate: Koshi did something last game when he was town. Because he did the same thing in this game, I think that he's mafia doing this specifically aimed to fool me.

So, what ever prevents Koshi from being town and just thinking the same way he did last game, since he was town last game?!!!?!?!!? This doesn't make him mafia in the slightest.

The opposite is far more probable as I've explained, the interaction with me, the voting me.. there's no reason for him to do that other than backdooring his meta into the picture. Like why did noone else scumread me throughout the entire game, except geript who was pissed at my entrance but didn't admit it, which broght him into a precarious situation, there's a reason for that.

"It boils down to this: how can he warrant using vivax's alignment to incriminate Tumble here, hmm? Even if it's sort of a transition to disformation, that's not important. He's basically scumclaiming for both him and vivax."

Except that's not what Koshi said at all. Koshi said that Tumblewood is mafia because of the way that Tumblewood said "Vivax is town" at the end of his post. Koshi said absolutely nothing about Vivax's alignment, so it has nothing to do with what you are saying.

Are you serious? This is ridiculous.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 08:30 GMT
#997
On August 31 2016 17:14 Trfel wrote:
My turn

So, since you were scumreading scott31337 early on, how could you be so sure that Vivax is mafia, since he posted the biggest case on scott31337?

Read case, ask if no comprende
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 08:32 GMT
#999
On August 31 2016 17:31 Trfel wrote:
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On August 31 2016 17:30 Race Bannon wrote:
On August 31 2016 17:14 Trfel wrote:
My turn

So, since you were scumreading scott31337 early on, how could you be so sure that Vivax is mafia, since he posted the biggest case on scott31337?

Read case, ask if no comprende
I don't get it, that's why I'm asking

You go so far as to say that it was too early to make a good case on scott31337. So, okay, why were you scumreading scott31337???

Fuck scott, you're asking why I was sure of Vivax, and it's rigt there in the case.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 08:44 GMT
#1001
On August 31 2016 17:39 Trfel wrote:
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On August 31 2016 17:32 Race Bannon wrote:
On August 31 2016 17:31 Trfel wrote:
On August 31 2016 17:30 Race Bannon wrote:
On August 31 2016 17:14 Trfel wrote:
My turn

So, since you were scumreading scott31337 early on, how could you be so sure that Vivax is mafia, since he posted the biggest case on scott31337?

Read case, ask if no comprende
I don't get it, that's why I'm asking

You go so far as to say that it was too early to make a good case on scott31337. So, okay, why were you scumreading scott31337???

Fuck scott, you're asking why I was sure of Vivax, and it's rigt there in the case.
I've already said why I don't think that makes sense, but okay, it's not worth arguing about.

In your scumread of Vivax, are you not considering the rest of his play? For instance, the push he's made for quite a while, and is by far the thing he's been most involved with? If you don't agree with this push, then presumably you disagree with the reasons that Vivax provided. In which case, I'd like to know the reasons that you were scumreading scott31337 for early on, and they'd better be different from the ones that Vivax posted.

I'm tired, so good night.

+ Show Spoiler +
Race Bannon seems to be genuinely annoyed though, which feels much more like a town mindset than a mafia mindset sigh... Everything he does seems so mafia, but maybe he's somehow town anyway...

Oh let's argue! Argue argue argue. Bannon wants argue, Now!

On August 31 2016 17:01 Trfel wrote:
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On August 31 2016 16:58 Race Bannon wrote:
On August 31 2016 16:29 Trfel wrote:
Race Bannon
(...)
So, I don't think that any of his arguments make sense this whole game.

I don't think you think that.
Glad to see that as soon as I scumread you, you appear It's like magic!

As soon as I confront you, you bail. Like Houdini
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 16:38 GMT
#1079
On September 01 2016 01:12 disformation wrote:
not sure if ill do the rest im pissed.

On September 01 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
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On September 01 2016 01:18 Vivax wrote:
Disfo why is geript an easy mislynch?

cause he apparently has like 0 time to play?

On September 01 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
like that you even have to ask that is ridic.

On September 01 2016 01:21 disformation wrote:
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On September 01 2016 01:20 Vivax wrote:
But why don't you consider that he might be mafia?

DO. YOU. EVEN. FUCKING. READ. MY. FUCKING. POSTS?!

On September 01 2016 01:21 disformation wrote:
OFC HE CAN BE SCUM

On September 01 2016 01:22 disformation wrote:
I CAN STILL THINK YOU ARE SCUMMY FOR MISREPRESENTING/CHERRY PICKING SHIT

On September 01 2016 01:23 disformation wrote:
LIKE DIDNT YOU SEE ME VOTING GERIPT FOR A JUNK OF D1 OR SOMETHING?!

On September 01 2016 01:25 disformation wrote:
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On September 01 2016 00:34 disformation wrote:
random tinfoil:
why is vivax only going after easy targets?
scott is know to get misslyched a ton (no offense) and geript has like no time to play.


going home and stepping away from the pc.

On September 01 2016 01:26 disformation wrote:
i also dont think i said anything about misslynches anywhere. might be wrong. am slightly pissed atm.

On September 01 2016 01:26 disformation wrote:
fucking BS.

Hush. Dont you mind those mean fuckers. Race is here to comfort you.

Flieg junger Adler, hinaus in die Freiheit.
Schau nur nach vorn', nie zurück.
tuh nunuh nuh
Dann findest du dein Glück!

There, all better?
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 16:39 GMT
#1080
On September 01 2016 01:28 disformation wrote:
hardclaiming cop.

On September 01 2016 01:28 disformation wrote:
cu.

Lol, .. or ?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 16:51 GMT
#1083
On September 01 2016 01:48 Vivax wrote:
This is more like the good ol' days.

Let's just hope he's not actually cop.

Let's just hope we didn't make it easier for scum to snipe the cop, if he is indeed someone other than ourelves. If not, well .. There can be only one cop p, or can there? Yes. Fuck it, time to read role PM.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 16:52 GMT
#1084
oh.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 17:03 GMT
#1085
almost forgot to screenshot-document proof.

[image loading]
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 17:05 GMT
#1086
[image loading]


Superpsyched! 5

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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 17:06 GMT
#1087
..oh.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
August 31 2016 17:13 GMT
#1096
Relax. Just don't compare PM times, forwhatever reason that's a bannable offense.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
September 05 2016 22:30 GMT
#1847
Scott.. why did you say your role PM was the same as the OP? Did you even read it?
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
September 06 2016 00:47 GMT
#1851
On August 30 2016 23:21 Race Bannon wrote:
Rereading the thread now, I'm at #180; having fun.

As soon as I get bored I'll pause to post some reads. Expect awesomeness.

Ok, I've decided not to post the above, am writing this instead and plan to copy it and keep reading and adding. When I will eventually paste and post, it will look and feel like this giant snowball of scumbarelaying nightmare for scum. And then I'll vote scum, superlatively formatted.

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On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?


More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons?


This. I expect scum to slip when they're being questioned about a post, as opposed to during the initial post. In this case I think Vivax gave himself away when he failed to censor out the wording which indicates a conspiratorial approach to this conversation. He says "other reasons", as if fostering an air of mystery around the faction which he is a part of, whereas town would ask "is he more protective of Rels because of mafia reasons".

##vote: Vivax

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On August 29 2016 06:56 Palmar wrote:
I declare this game to be a case game. This means that if you want someone to get lynched, you post a case. Don't just talk in stupid circles and spam for ages, make a case, summarize your points and make it concise.


If Vivax's initial platform for the case on scott (what grack did as scum in 72h) has merit, then I'm entitled to compare Palmar's post with Rels' (also endgaming scum), where he said they should never make use of the quicklynch mechanic. It's in the ballpark of trying to establish an early authoritatively presence in terms of agenda. But frankly I don't think it has merit, for one because I believe Vivax is scum. Meta is very unreliable as base for a case, but in this case it's not even the meta of the suspect, rather some random meta from a recent game; so that's double trouble.

Furthermore I'd expect a disciplined townie, which I think Vivax is judging by how he kept his cool during LightningStrike's vulgar, verbal assault on him in Onegu I game, I expect him to let the case speak for itself, instead of showing aggressive bullying tactics, to promote its apparent quality, I believe for the sake of looking townie because emotions are townread more often than not. And again, I feel like he grounded his case on someone else's meta, so objectively speaking it's not going to fly as a real case.

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On August 29 2016 07:02 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested. I don't think Tfrel has the balls to come out and claim scum. He was superscared last game as mafia. I would be VERY surprised if he turned that around so fast.

Almost 100% lock town tbh.


If anything I think people make a conscious habbit of rehashing their exact behavioral pattern from their towngames, as scum, in games where the same players are present. So I remember Koshi bringing up the exact same argument about me not having the balls to do whatever I did in my scumgame. Therefore this looks more like a manipulation designed specifically for me to get a meta townread on him, bearing in mind that we've interacted enough for him to catch and try to anchor my attention in this preconceived way.
The fact that he voiced and kept claiming suspicion against me, for no reason, speaks for this as well. Anyone who says I'm scummy looks very bad, but for some reason geript is getting more votes, despite Koshi being the scummier of the two from this perspective.

The thing about geript is .. to use Koshi's attempt at alignment indication .. would scum geript say he agrees with Palmar and then scumread me like a boss anyway? I think not, and lynching geript today could mean lynching a valuable, methodical asset to town, and one of the biggest threats to scum domination. Do not! I repeat, no lyncherinho geript today.. pl0x

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On August 29 2016 07:33 Palmar wrote:
also I'm a moron, this is on the thing.

I don't think that changes Race's thought patter.

Like, why would anyone make that "mistake" as any other role than vanilla town. Like there's basically 99% chance he read his role pm, figured that it would be hard for mafia to fake it and just rolled with it. The alternative scenario that he is mafia, figures that vanilla role pm might be weird, and instead of begging host for it (if he genuinely didn't know it was in the op) and decides to come up with this weird ruse hoping someone jumps it (like I'm doing now) and calls him town for it.

It's just way too complicated.

The simple solution is, Race Bannon is town. probably. (maybe).

I could've said this as vt, pr, scum or sk.. I repeat, it was a wifom reaction test.

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On August 29 2016 07:33 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm not only fairly sure he's town, I'm fairly sure he's precisely vanilla town.

No. Turn around, walk a few steps and stay put at maybe.

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On August 29 2016 08:00 Koshi wrote:
Tumble has the "Vivax is town" mafia addendum.
Disformation has the "oh wait it is probably breaking meta" mafia addendum

This is my Koshi & Vivax are scum addendum.

Don't lynch disfo, Holyflare, geript today.


I had one here. 2/3 of Palmar and 1/3 of Koshi. Should've known you western euros think the same way.
rb:
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On August 29 2016 06:56 Palmar wrote:
I declare this game to be a case game. This means that if you want someone to get lynched, you post a case. Don't just talk in stupid circles and spam for ages, make a case, summarize your points and make it concise.


If Vivax's initial platform for the case on scott (what grack did as scum in 72h) has merit, then I'm entitled to compare Palmar's post with Rels' (also endgaming scum), where he said they should never make use of the quicklynch mechanic. It's in the ballpark of trying to establish an early authoritatively presence in terms of agenda. But frankly I don't think it has merit, for one because I believe Vivax is scum. Meta is very unreliable as base for a case, but in this case it's not even the meta of the suspect, rather some random meta from a recent game; so that's double trouble.


And Koshi.. I should've gottenyou lynched when you said I don't understand your addendum bs. Nobody wanted that outcome just yet.. but day 2 would've been a fieldday.
day3: y u no dead?
day4: srsly

But I have to say I'm really impressed by your insta townread.. took balls.. alsotalking to Koshi about it.. he seemed clueless why he was scumreading me.

My bad, Iwas in rant mode. Palmar.. buddying up to me with the reply ..uuuuuhugh. so scummy I feel, all over.GG Nice one disfo, rels, me. Vivax teach disfo to b cool, and rels to drive less .. 5 warming and polution's sake take a bus, train, kite, portal, astral projector, telepathy etc. And do something about the triumph arch roundabout .. it's too funny.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
September 06 2016 13:50 GMT
#1866
On September 06 2016 06:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Ban list actions can be seen here.

Is there anyone who'd like to represent you, or do you represent yourself in this matter. I can recomment a good attorney, he is informed.. to a reasonably advanced extent.

You'll need to reevaluate your suggestion, for me to alleviate mine: Worst host in history.
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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
September 06 2016 21:31 GMT
#1872
Lol this is not appropriate at all.. if you know what sw is about. But damn that's legit foodporn yo. Coolio
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