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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 09:11 GMT
#1221
Maybe Tfrel is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 09:43 GMT
#1224
On September 01 2016 18:18 Holyflare wrote:
You could just explain your scott read again

If you want to go with obvious mafia!Vivax against me go ahead.


I don't have to explain the scott read. Fact is that even if scott was a bit scummy this game he is still way more townie than both Palmar and Vivax so he should not be considered. But he isn't even scummy. Look at the 2 posts I quoted. Both show townie mindset and willingness to solve the game. All other posts are just post advancing the game somehow, or are just conversation posts which everybody makes. Last post he made is either mafia lying or a townie with genuine emotions. I am going for townie being angry and sad. Which are the correct emotions to feel atm.


It is funny how Tfrel is trying to discredit me by my "gutread" scott when that is maybe the most "unexplainable" read I have.
On September 01 2016 09:32 Trfel wrote:
The thing I really don't like about Koshi, is why is he so confident about scott31337 being town?

I looked through Koshi's filter, and I didn't see any reasons that he gave that scott31337 is town. Koshi said that he built a town case on scott31337, so I missed it (please link?), but I'm not seeing anything.

I also saw where Koshi said that he doesn't think that scott31337 is mafia but he really could be. Since then, scott31337 has not done anything worth townreading him for (in my opinion anyway), but Koshi's become far more confident in scott31337 being town, for seemingly no reason. If anything, the vote count analysis makes scott31337 look scummier IMO, not townier.

So this really confuses me.

Tfrel 100% ignores both my cases on Vivax and Palmar. Just attacks me for my Scott read. While he just played mafia with me and knows the only thing I did was
1) Talk mechanics D1
2) Pushed Artanis/Skynx solely based on a QT snippet D2. Switched my reads from 100% lock town to 100% mafia solely due to that QT.
3) Spam things to get elected on D3
4) skipped D4
5) Dayvigged the most obvious town D5 and ignored the game.


Not to speak of the fact I just tried to buddy everybody, never showed any intention to solve the game, made only one liners, etc etc etc



Palmar -> Vivax -> Tfrel
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 09:46 GMT
#1226
Saying I am mafia in this game actually should get you lynched. No questions asked.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 09:46 GMT
#1227
On September 01 2016 18:45 Holyflare wrote:
Why hasn't scott posted his spreadsheets then?

Ask him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 09:47 GMT
#1228
Like why the fuck should I explain why he hasn't posted his spreadsheets?

How does that make me mafia HF?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 09:48 GMT
#1229
Ugh. I need to chill. Sorry.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 09:48 GMT
#1230
I don't know why I get pissed off so fast.

Bad habbit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 09:50 GMT
#1231
I also need to stop refreshing. AFK for 7 hours.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 10:20 GMT
#1233
On September 01 2016 18:46 Koshi wrote:
Saying I am mafia in this game actually should get you lynched. No questions asked.

this was about Tfrel not you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 10:20 GMT
#1234
and in general
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 10:59 GMT
#1236
On September 01 2016 19:29 Holyflare wrote:
So you don't find it suspicious there's no spreadsheet at all? He's definitely seen my post asking for it and has been around.

Yeah, kinda bad he dodged that question. :/
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 20:58 GMT
#1279
Pfff. I am sad that the people who should show activity aren't doing it.

Palmar. Tfrel. TW. Maybe even Scott.

Come on.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 20:59 GMT
#1280
TT. Where are thou?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2016 21:48 GMT
#1286
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I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 07:20 GMT
#1300
On September 02 2016 12:58 Trfel wrote:
Palmar feels especially uncaring today. Even worse than before.

If Palmar is town and being mislynched by a Holyflare that he thinks is mafia, I'd expect him to do something about it.

##unvote
##vote Palmar


Koshi, why did you change your read on Vivax to town?

This never happened.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 07:33 GMT
#1304
On September 02 2016 16:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 12:58 Trfel wrote:
Palmar feels especially uncaring today. Even worse than before.

If Palmar is town and being mislynched by a Holyflare that he thinks is mafia, I'd expect him to do something about it.

##unvote
##vote Palmar


Koshi, why did you change your read on Vivax to town?

This never happened.

ah you meant why he didn't make my last list.
It is because he was making posts.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 07:42 GMT
#1307
On September 02 2016 16:38 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi

Show nested quote +
And it just smells of TMI "youare all on the wrong track but here is a bullshit case on scott that I want you all to gobble up" And we did...

Speeding this thing up due to having other things to do:
Everything else Vivax did that day was push his scott ml while cheering on the TW ml.


How can vivax's case on scott look like tmi but it's a scott mislynch? If it's tmi scott is mafia?

The part that town was on the wrong track completely was the tmi part. Not scott.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 07:46 GMT
#1310
On September 02 2016 16:41 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 16:28 Holyflare wrote:
Also what do you mean vivax feels less active? He's like the most active guy in the thread?

What's your reason for mafia reading him exactly? That he's just not tinfoil enough?

Like he 'feels' like he's super active. Involved in everything, but has a much shorter filter than I'd expect. It's a scumread for Kita btw. It's a lot of little stuff I mentioned. Like usually I've seen him championing read to 'the known' players to push his read. But that's not so much here. It's drop a case. Do a little. Move on to next target. There's no real stubbornness. Like he's active at end of D1 but not really trying to make a decision. Iirc He's also the first and only to discredit end of D1 as useless.

Like earlier, we usually really butt heads or I find his reads retarded. This game he's been ok. I think it was only Dane or TW who commented on his odd read mid D1 I think.

I get your points on Palmar, but usually even among us vets, there's some disagreement on how to read the game. It's weird I'm defending palmar, but considering the dynamic of my-you-Koshi-vivax on similar pages with palmar kinda aligned but off on a few specifics in an argumentative way that's pretty odd. Usually the odd ball out is town and one in the circle is scum. And it's one in the circle who half keeps feeding the dissension. Here IMO the dissension looks more to come from vivax than Koshi or you.

Why can't Vivax and Palmar not be both mafia? Vivax is just bussing Palmar because it was obvious we (HF and I) were going to go for him today. You are creating a world in which 3 of us are town and only 1 can be mafia. But what in a world in which 2 are mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 07:55 GMT
#1312
On September 02 2016 16:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 16:46 Koshi wrote:
On September 02 2016 16:41 geript wrote:
On September 02 2016 16:28 Holyflare wrote:
Also what do you mean vivax feels less active? He's like the most active guy in the thread?

What's your reason for mafia reading him exactly? That he's just not tinfoil enough?

Like he 'feels' like he's super active. Involved in everything, but has a much shorter filter than I'd expect. It's a scumread for Kita btw. It's a lot of little stuff I mentioned. Like usually I've seen him championing read to 'the known' players to push his read. But that's not so much here. It's drop a case. Do a little. Move on to next target. There's no real stubbornness. Like he's active at end of D1 but not really trying to make a decision. Iirc He's also the first and only to discredit end of D1 as useless.

Like earlier, we usually really butt heads or I find his reads retarded. This game he's been ok. I think it was only Dane or TW who commented on his odd read mid D1 I think.

I get your points on Palmar, but usually even among us vets, there's some disagreement on how to read the game. It's weird I'm defending palmar, but considering the dynamic of my-you-Koshi-vivax on similar pages with palmar kinda aligned but off on a few specifics in an argumentative way that's pretty odd. Usually the odd ball out is town and one in the circle is scum. And it's one in the circle who half keeps feeding the dissension. Here IMO the dissension looks more to come from vivax than Koshi or you.

Why can't Vivax and Palmar not be both mafia? Vivax is just bussing Palmar because it was obvious we (HF and I) were going to go for him today. You are creating a world in which 3 of us are town and only 1 can be mafia. But what in a world in which 2 are mafia?

Vivax + Palmar can both be scum I just don't find it very likely. If those two are both scum Palmar doesn't quit thread. Like, Palmar can't be scum with anyone with any actual thread pull.

Dnu. I don't see how Vivax can ever save Palmar. Maybe by presenting some lynchbait guy he has been pushing 24/7 with the worst case ever build.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 08:07 GMT
#1314
On September 02 2016 17:02 geript wrote:
If that's the case why doesn't Vivax suck up more to you/HF

Dnu. It isn't so that he is trying to piss me off either though.
He calls me town, says we are similar players.
I had a good night of sleep.
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