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On August 29 2016 16:15 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 16:13 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 16:10 disformation wrote:
and with all these questions I am fairly surprised you don't ask me where the hell my incredible hard TR on TT comes from. Sure, why are you so confident that Tictock is town? For correctly using meta to TR me, when he could just sheep one of the really strong players scumreading me.
In regards to Disformation, I'm not sure what to think of him at the moment but this post struck me as really dodgy. In the last game he played where he was mafia against me himself and shape pocketed me hard with town reads flung at me from every direction and "analysing" my posts d1 to correctly determine my alignment (my biggest weakness apparently) yet this game he's quite happy to town read someone doing the same thing to himself??? (Not to mention that I actually think TT is somewhat suspicious anyway)
Honestly, I don't think disformation is really doing anything much this game, he posts a lot sure and he says some things that align with what's happening but there's subtle things like the above post which make me confused that he actually thinks these things if he's town. I also don't particularly think there's much original thought in his filter.
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On August 30 2016 03:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare, what do you think about Tumblewood's posts on Tictock? Especially since you said that you're also suspicious of Tictock.
it's annoying because it's not a bad post :D
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What game is that from tumble? I can't find him posting it in search.
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Also someone explain to me how geript is leading the votes?
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On August 30 2016 04:13 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 03:49 Holyflare wrote:
Also someone explain to me how geript is leading the votes? How have you not been paying attention to my posts?
I didn't think they were very good at all so no.
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On August 30 2016 04:13 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 03:49 Holyflare wrote:
Also someone explain to me how geript is leading the votes? There is a pretty big mismatch between his comments/reads/post by post analysis and his conclusions. Most notably on the RB/Palmar thing, also noticeable on the reads on you/me. As in: his conclusions make various degrees of not much to no sense given the comments he posted in the wall. So it all feels super unnatural/constructed/mismatched.
But there's not a huge mismatch like you seem to say there is. He sheeps my posts, he dislikes you and votes you, town reads generally share your reads. Why is there a problem?
You ever gonna elaborate on your tt town read after what I said btw?
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Also, Daneler or w/e your name is, why have you ignored providing a read on disformation when he displayed the exact same traits that koshi did when you scum read koshi? I pointed it out and you've just jumped on geript for a point that is somewhat mediocre while ignoring evidence given to you that you yourself said you'd look into:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 30 2016 00:50 DanelerH wrote:Rels certainly seems suspicious for having ony said "yo", then disappearing, but I don't think we have enough information to lynch him. I'm more interested in Geript right now. Other than the posts in the spoiler below, his strange reads are pretty much all he's said. It would be one thing if they were ordered by person, then gives an alignment after each one, but they're ordered by timestamp, which makes them seem a lot less coherent. As Palmar pointed out, there is also a pretty blatant contradiction in his read on Race Bannon. Because of this, I think I'm going to vote for Geript, as well. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 10:39 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 06:46 Trfel wrote:Oh boy, disformation, I can't wait to see how you react if/when I actually push you  For you less meta-inclined people, Palmar and Vivax are very likely town ^^ at least if Trfel is mafia and ever flips I'm spewed confirmed town status. That's nice. This is the most interesting post so far. I'm surprised Palmar doesn't want to lynch Trfel; usually, he'd be more than happy to flip someone he doesn't think is town in hopes to confirm himself. On August 29 2016 10:54 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 10:51 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 10:39 geript wrote:On August 29 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 06:46 Trfel wrote:Oh boy, disformation, I can't wait to see how you react if/when I actually push you For you less meta-inclined people, Palmar and Vivax are very likely town ^^ at least if Trfel is mafia and ever flips I'm spewed confirmed town status. That's nice. This is the most interesting post so far. I'm surprised Palmar doesn't want to lynch Trfel; usually, he'd be more than happy to flip someone he doesn't think is town in hopes to confirm himself. ![[image loading]](https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/71378636.jpg) I do, but I'm at work. You'll get them later tonight.
On August 29 2016 10:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 10:24 DanelerH wrote:
I find it odd that Koshi was suspicious of Trfel, but then defended Trfel shortly afterwards. If the former was said in jest, then it's another irrelevant and uncontributive post. Also, if you're using this metric why are you going after Koshi and not hopping aboard the Disformation is mafia train with me? None of disformation's post can be mistaken for jokes, a lot of them defend people (Rels) and then scum lean them (based off a 2 letter post....)? Also, everyone that is following the Palmar wagon on Rels and has said nothing more is in major cop out mode and I will be coming after you big time.
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On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 18:45 Palmar wrote:
geript's two long posts are awful. He quotes a bunch of my posts and gives random commentary, then proceeds to make his conclusion some joke about marv.
Also, Rels still afk? wow such caught. Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch. Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things". Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this: Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Town
HF
Koshi
Vivax
Leaning Town
Trfel
Null
Palmar
Scott
Rels
Scum
Tumble
RB
disfo
Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~ Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point. So yeah. geript's entrance is shit.
When it comes down to it and I read your posts I see a lot of geript saying smart things that I agree with (your case on rels is totally subpar and he is useless) and the RB thing isn't particularly alignment indicative (I know for sure I've tried to abuse this as mafia before and it's been abused against me).
He also agrees with my reads and smart towny people do that.
As far as contradiction I don't particularly see much.
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On August 30 2016 01:47 geript wrote:
Pretty simple. I ignored the initial pm post. That's the type of shit that flat out ruins games one way or another. At the time he had a short filter with an exceptionally unusual scum pair (Koshi + someone iirc). I remember missing it initially but when TT and TW were talking, TT had this awful townread reasoning and TW made a short post on how he and Koshi couldn't be scum together. And it got me thinking about how Race could ever pair those two. It's such an odd pairing that it stuck in my mind.
Perhaps it's because I wasn't around at the time that you saw it being contradictory but I remember reading this and being completely fine with it. I'm not going to just flat out trust something that isn't alignment indicative and has actually been used by mafia before.
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On August 30 2016 04:42 Holyflare wrote:Also, Daneler or w/e your name is, why have you ignored providing a read on disformation when he displayed the exact same traits that koshi did when you scum read koshi? I pointed it out and you've just jumped on geript for a point that is somewhat mediocre while ignoring evidence given to you that you yourself said you'd look into: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2016 00:50 DanelerH wrote:Rels certainly seems suspicious for having ony said "yo", then disappearing, but I don't think we have enough information to lynch him. I'm more interested in Geript right now. Other than the posts in the spoiler below, his strange reads are pretty much all he's said. It would be one thing if they were ordered by person, then gives an alignment after each one, but they're ordered by timestamp, which makes them seem a lot less coherent. As Palmar pointed out, there is also a pretty blatant contradiction in his read on Race Bannon. Because of this, I think I'm going to vote for Geript, as well. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 10:39 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 06:46 Trfel wrote:Oh boy, disformation, I can't wait to see how you react if/when I actually push you For you less meta-inclined people, Palmar and Vivax are very likely town ^^ at least if Trfel is mafia and ever flips I'm spewed confirmed town status. That's nice. This is the most interesting post so far. I'm surprised Palmar doesn't want to lynch Trfel; usually, he'd be more than happy to flip someone he doesn't think is town in hopes to confirm himself. On August 29 2016 10:54 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 10:51 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 10:39 geript wrote:On August 29 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 06:46 Trfel wrote:Oh boy, disformation, I can't wait to see how you react if/when I actually push you For you less meta-inclined people, Palmar and Vivax are very likely town ^^ at least if Trfel is mafia and ever flips I'm spewed confirmed town status. That's nice. This is the most interesting post so far. I'm surprised Palmar doesn't want to lynch Trfel; usually, he'd be more than happy to flip someone he doesn't think is town in hopes to confirm himself. I do, but I'm at work. You'll get them later tonight. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 10:33 Holyflare wrote:On August 29 2016 10:24 DanelerH wrote:
I find it odd that Koshi was suspicious of Trfel, but then defended Trfel shortly afterwards. If the former was said in jest, then it's another irrelevant and uncontributive post. Also, if you're using this metric why are you going after Koshi and not hopping aboard the Disformation is mafia train with me? None of disformation's post can be mistaken for jokes, a lot of them defend people (Rels) and then scum lean them (based off a 2 letter post....)? Also, everyone that is following the Palmar wagon on Rels and has said nothing more is in major cop out mode and I will be coming after you big time.
This is an excellent point btw:
Koshi does scummy trait A
I tell Daneler that Koshi does it a lot and in fact Disformation is more guilty of scummy trait A
Daneler hops on current free wagon of geript ignores scummy trait A
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I just told you I searched for the meta read and nothing popped up, even looked for the phrase "more posts" by TT and even this thread didn't show up so search is fucked. Database is fooked too :/
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Also i better back off, I'm looking too towny. How can I claim cop now?
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Ahhh that's a bad post, you are keeping your vote on geript when he's already cleared up his inconsistency (which btw disfo/palmar/you) haven't even mentioned while you afk vote him but ignoring someone that provides the exact scummy traits you scum read someone for earlier???
For real ?
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On August 30 2016 05:27 disformation wrote:
@Koshi what do you think of TW's meta thing on TT?
Is this all you're gonna keep saying? D:
No comment on Daner and the constant inconsistent approach to scum reading people? No update to your geript read since you vote him and he's posted clarification? No proper engagement with me?
Are you scared this game since I'm posting actual cases now disfo?
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Lol koshi i don't actually hate tw after he posted that :D
Not totally anyway.
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Enough talking about geript and tw, let's focus on you know, the rest of the game?
Dane comes in and can only focuses on one person to vote (geript) but it's basically a sheep, returns and seems annoyed that they got called out and maintain that they are still voting geript when voti
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Enough talking about geript and tw, let's focus on you know, the rest of the game?
Dane comes in and focuses on koshi but gets called wrong so says they'll look elsewhere. They get directed to disfo who does everything that they think is scummy but ignores that and essentially just sheeps the thread. Then, when called out says they're still voting geript (aka ignores the thread and that geript has posted clarification).
Not to mention tumble is basically scummy extreme and does everything that they hated koshi for but is also essentially ignored.
Basically more concerned with trying to look good/fit the thread than read it and think critically. Definitely scummy.
It's pretty bad that half the thread is in my mafia-ish pile tbh.
(no idea how it posted a half finished post before)
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On August 30 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
Lol koshi i don't actually hate tw after he posted that :D
Not totally anyway. 1 good post and he is town? That's not how it works. Mafia are the ones who make posts in an attempt to look town. The better the mafia player the more townie post he can make. Town are the ones who make posts in an attempt to find mafia and don't care if they look town but look town in the process.TW in this game is red and was able to make 1 good post. TW in any other game is green and obvious green. I will go look for a game.
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Come back to me when you win a game with a red check on you when the cop flipped three cycles ago koshi.
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Ok Dane, I have a task for you. Ignore what everyone says and go with your own flow. Perhaps read my filter and cases on tumble etc as a starting point and see what happens.
The first step of mafia is to ignore what everyone else says and post whatever comes to your mind. No holding back if you have nothing to hide.
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