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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 11 2016 20:02 GMT
#81
/in
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 16 2016 07:30 GMT
#300
I am so lost right now.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 16 2016 07:44 GMT
#309
I think town might get the most use out of me having the tank tbh.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 16 2016 09:13 GMT
#394
On August 16 2016 18:12 Superbia wrote:
So I'm assuming there are other town nationalities in play.

Can confirm. Am not a dirty commie or murcan
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 16 2016 09:55 GMT
#473
Because of the two nukes?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 16 2016 16:18 GMT
#949
On August 16 2016 22:27 kitaman27 wrote:
It's times like these I wish there was a player run bank that I could deposit all my monies with the assurance that it would be kept safe, but alas.


This only works if you believe I'm town, but I can handle that for you. I don't really need money tbh so it would be safe, and it's accessible even if I die.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 17 2016 17:05 GMT
#1818
Sorry guys, kinda lost as to what's going on due to car shopping in my free time. I'll catch up once I'm done at work.

Not sure if it matters to you guys, but I'm in Africa and submitted a plan to catch that animal. I offered to spend up to 1100 gold on the actual catching and subsequent research as well. If that isn't enough to accomplish anything outside of catching it, it would be shipped to someone with the tech that is a solid town read.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 17 2016 19:09 GMT
#1907
On August 18 2016 04:07 Damdred wrote:
I have my bid in please do not bid against me it's a waste of money if your town.


That's assuming scum don't outbid you though, right?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 17 2016 19:11 GMT
#1909
On August 18 2016 04:08 disformation wrote:
I am in the progress of throwing my money at FOX News in order to remove 1-10 individuals already.


If you shoot me, fine with me. My role is almost as useful dead. However you better hit some scum if you're on the higher side if that number.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 17 2016 19:16 GMT
#1911
On August 18 2016 04:14 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 04:09 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 18 2016 04:07 Damdred wrote:
I have my bid in please do not bid against me it's a waste of money if your town.


That's assuming scum don't outbid you though, right?


They would almost be claiming scum or saying shape is scum I suppose


I'm just catching up, but I see anything specifying it wasn't a silent auction like the others though. Will we even know who won?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 18 2016 05:53 GMT
#2023
American citizens. You can answer this when you're posting anyway or even d2, but it's important I know this. Did you receive a birth certificate as an item to prove your US allegiance?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 18 2016 17:10 GMT
#2033
Second night post, but I want to get this out there.

I was the one who robbed GB. I received cash as well as a birth certificate which allows me to appear as a US citizen to checks, participate in elections and vote in the US.

If it was just the money, I wouldn't have said anything but this calls into question his role claim to me.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 18 2016 23:57 GMT
#2069
So do we know who won the tank/phone auctions. If no one claims winning, I'd be intersted to see what other people bid, because I'm fairly certain I can outbid anyone on this fish and use it as town sees fit once we know what it does. I just don't want to overbid by a ridiculous amount if it's avoidable.

I'd also be fine with a nuke on GB unless he has a reasonable explanation
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 19 2016 06:30 GMT
#2125
On August 19 2016 15:15 disformation wrote:
also that fox thig spparently failed?
kinda pissed cause i paid a lot of money for thsz

How much is a lot?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 20 2016 02:30 GMT
#2417
Sorry guys, I'll be more caught up tomorrow. 7 hours at the dealership, but finally replaced my car.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 20 2016 03:37 GMT
#2419
On August 20 2016 12:06 Damdred wrote:
I'm finally here had a long day.

I'll be voting sky and art.

As for my vig shot I was thinking maybe GB so far.

Yeah, that seems like a reasonable shot. His silence about the birth certificate is a little worrisome.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 20 2016 23:18 GMT
#2792
Finally caught up.

I can think of a few logical reasons for each of them to have evaded their deaths, but I'd like to hear their explanation/theory.

I didn't rob anyone last night as it's very conditional and my target didn't meet them.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 22 2016 20:39 GMT
#3084
On August 23 2016 04:31 prplhz wrote:
GlowingBear is probably alien

Stutters695 too

Negative ghostrider. I'm in Africa though

If anyone has anything they want me to weigh in on I'm happy to, but having no lynches and my role is super demoralizing. I'm like barely following along because I can't impact anything.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 22 2016 20:41 GMT
#3087
On August 23 2016 05:39 prplhz wrote:
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On August 23 2016 05:21 Kurumi wrote:
Chez is a bank, the only way to kill him is to rob him. Chez, want something cool from me for some cash?

who was it who robbed GlowingBear again?

Shapelog?


Me, but it's very conditional. I can try it today, but there is no guarantee it'll hit, especially if he's actually not a person.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 22 2016 20:48 GMT
#3092
On August 23 2016 05:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 05:41 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 23 2016 05:39 prplhz wrote:
On August 23 2016 05:21 Kurumi wrote:
Chez is a bank, the only way to kill him is to rob him. Chez, want something cool from me for some cash?

who was it who robbed GlowingBear again?

Shapelog?


Me, but it's very conditional. I can try it today, but there is no guarantee it'll hit, especially if he's actually not a person.


Then you've got 250 million dollars and a birth certificate. Did you tell that to the thread?


Like disfo quoted, I didn't mention the amount, but it was brought up. Before the economy crash, 250m was negligible to what I had, but now makes up a pretty solid portion of my wealth.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 22 2016 21:02 GMT
#3098
On August 23 2016 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Why did you rob me stutters?

Not going to answer fully because it would reveal the conditions of my ability. But you said something in thread that made me believe my ability would both hit and fulfill a secondary objective.

I figured worst case, I could just return the items anonymously but I didn't see the need after your d2.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 22 2016 21:02 GMT
#3099
I'm voting you koshi
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 22 2016 21:16 GMT
#3101
Do you guys want me to buy the shuttle? I should have enough to win that still and you guys can decide how it's used. I have no idea why my role even has money tbh, it doesn't even affect my secondary objectives.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 22 2016 21:50 GMT
#3108
On August 23 2016 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:
we should mass claim for sure. no one, least of all me, has any real idea of what everyone else does and how we can interact with each other. this is kind of like town of salem on steroids.


I can already tell you, I'll lie. I'm sure I won't be the only one either. But if my role is revealed, I essentially become a vt.

Seems like a bad idea tbh.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 23 2016 17:40 GMT
#3545
I'm awake and caught up. Just let me know who/when to push pull. I'll be around and can save them against shenanigans before EoD if that's preferable as well.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 23 2016 19:14 GMT
#3632
I'm here, but I know I'll be around near the deadline so I'm trying to save my stuff to stop shenanigans. If town wants me to burn them I can however.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 23 2016 19:41 GMT
#3640
Want me to do it¿
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 23 2016 20:00 GMT
#3642
##push prplhz
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 24 2016 16:12 GMT
#3738
On August 24 2016 22:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Reading through some of those flips, I'm kinda paranoid that they could be fake or altered. There are three different occasions where one of the players that flipped town have role descriptions that don't match the powers that they claimed. I'm not saying that all 5 players that flipped were mafia, but it's possible mafia may have had the ability to mess with the flips and possibly the alignments as a counter to us being able to lynch a bunch of people last cycle. I guess they might have been powers related to secondary objectives or something, but mine don't work that way.

-Artanis stole superbia's legs on day one using the ##help command. Superbia confirmed that it was a real power. It couldn't have been his thesis power since he wouldn't receive that until night 1. Not mentioned in role PM.

-GlowingBear received the NSA for getting elected. He said it was part of his role when I questioned him since the Patriot Act was his election reward. Not mentioned in role PM.

-prpl claimed two vig shots prior to dying. Not mentioned in role PM.

I'll try to re-read the filters of everyone tonight. I have a hard time believing HTS, disfo, or koshi are mafia even after a bunch of town deaths, but I'll try re-evaluating to see if there was something I overlooked. There are a couple players who have gone the entire game without even calling any player scum or using their role in any way that helps town, so those players are probably the most likely mafia candidates at this point.



I agree they probably have some janitor-esque role, but there is certainly no way it was that many of them. With how much of this is played behind the scenes, you can't really tell. I still have GBs berth birth certificate, and no one else has had items appear when they flip so it could be explained like that.

My role also has a post-death power that gets substantially weaker if it's mechanics are known, so I assume that would be left out of my flip if I die.

Although I'm hoping this is just a really bastardized game that has no scum because the world is supposed to end. That would be amazing.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 25 2016 15:51 GMT
#3889
Ok, please don't kill me now that we're retired.

For the record, I'm Cleopatra and my role worked as follows.

I could seduce(role block/mug) a world leader every night.

My passive was part of the reason for playing so lurky. I really wanted to get viged. I've been following along, but by dying I would have created a pyramid with my money inside (Roughly 30-50billion depending on which day with exchange rates). People could have explored it and I would have gotten to decide if they could take some, all of it, or they could die to a trap(giving me a lot of kp depending on who entered).

I have been following along though.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 25 2016 16:04 GMT
#3892
Anyway, the most obvious answer is Damdred is lying about the check.

However he appears to be non-human while the toy factory day was so focused on humans, he might not have been RBd since it appears he wasn't human. Can any other aliens confirm/deny that they weren't rbd?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 25 2016 17:27 GMT
#3907
Damdred and Koshi seem like the correct play here
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 26 2016 03:04 GMT
#3975
On August 26 2016 05:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On August 26 2016 04:59 Half the Sky wrote:
My vote at this point in time is for Damdred and Stutters.

I agree that Koshi is anti-town, but people aren't considering the why.

If someone wants to explain why Koshi was mafia BEFORE his behaviour changed drastically that's fine. But that's a different argument.

I'll be back in one hour.

Sigh

After the prplhz death I took a long hard look at you but other than the shit flinging between you two I don't really disagree with most of the stuff you've said and your latest and greatest reads are about in line with mine as well.

I'm going off the assumption Koshi is 3p, if not we need to have a long conversation after this game about what it means to play to win vs play to secondary objectives bc there have been a frustrating amount of townies who have essentially said fuck winning and tried for secondary objectives.

Take stutters for example, playing blatantly anti town in hopes of getting vigi'd so that you can then kill more people upon death is NOT optimal town play. Stutters if you somehow flip town I hope you understand that even in a game like this, increasing random KP is almost never ever in the town's best interest. It is on the other hand great scum play as it would increase team kp. It would also go along with the trend we've seen/had people claim of nontown aligned players having after death mechanics.


Remember that time I was a dreamflower and shot the mafia assassin and Damdred hit mafia in Assassination and they conceded d3 because of our 2 shots? Good times.

Other fun facts, I had 2 pages of filter essentially in that game as well and I was town. My last themed games (mtg mini 2 and aperture 2) I spent way more time on mechanics and themed stuff then actually hunting scum.

Also, did you read how that power worked? I got to choose, it wasn't random. Do you know who'd be more likely to unannounced enter the pyramid? Scum. If it required a declaration in thread, I could read their filters and decide.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 26 2016 09:50 GMT
#4000
Lunatic is a solid third after Damdred and Koshi
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 26 2016 19:04 GMT
#4333
I'm reading the qt, but does HtS always make so many association cases?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 26 2016 19:36 GMT
#4346
I need to re-read Kita, but I'm inclined to side with him. From that qt HtS calls Damdred and Rels "for sure" mafia while Kita is the one she's most likely to be wrong on but she prefers kita get shot. That don't make no sense nohow.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 26 2016 19:46 GMT
#4358
Damdred 100% needs to die. If we're not killing Koshi (although I think we should) HtS would be the next best bet.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 26 2016 20:21 GMT
#4379
##vote Damdred
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 26 2016 20:33 GMT
#4393
On August 27 2016 05:22 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 05:21 Stutters695 wrote:
##vote Damdred


;o how is that helpful you dink

So we're for sure killing scum?

The shot needs to be on someone less sure because scum might be able to rb or otherwise interfere. Petty common sense tbh.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 26 2016 20:44 GMT
#4403
On August 27 2016 05:39 Half the Sky wrote:
My team is Kita/Rels/Stutters/Damdred.

Scum are going for preserving Kita/Rels/Stutters. I don't know which one of them has the extra kp but we have to lynch one of them instead of Damdred, so I'll switch to Kitaman.


No, we lynch Damdred for the assured kill. Not to mention I have 0 faith in your associations because you're wrong about me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 26 2016 21:33 GMT
#4480
Lunatic posted the qt. Sucks, but that's pretty standard.
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