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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 16:16 GMT
#2645
Problem there being Sicklucker doesn't capitalize his first letter unless it's I so that seems unlikely.

Unless Mafia has a way to fuck with these QT's. Honestly think they might or it'd be a bit too OP.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 16:18 GMT
#2646
Okay the fucking with QT option scared me a little and ignoring everything else, Trfel is the scummiest guy out there. Given no one's trying to lynch me in the US I'm changing my vote there.
##USAunvote Skynx
##USAvote Trfel
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 16:19 GMT
#2647
On August 21 2016 00:52 Skynx wrote:
Nah fuck it sl bro let the town lose

This feels like it isn't mafia-ish. It's a stupid little thing but it makes me prefer Trfel.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 16:21 GMT
#2649
Trfel
That is his filter. It is also my case on him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 16:25 GMT
#2652
So if we could please lynch two people not me, that'd be grand.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 18:13 GMT
#2656
On August 21 2016 03:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
if people could give just a few more shits, that'd be great

When you're the one saying this, we know things are dire.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 20:10 GMT
#2680
Dani, stop ignoring me already. ENGAGE ME.

Same goes for Trfel. This talking about me without actually talking to me is really getting on my nerves.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 20:13 GMT
#2685
Also Koshi popping in and saying nothing bothers me.

Seriously, it feels like people just decided I'm scum and no one decided it's worth thinking critically about.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 20:15 GMT
#2686
How would you summarize the reasons that you are being considered for the lynch?

Dreadful.

On August 21 2016 05:13 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Dani, stop ignoring me already. ENGAGE ME.

Same goes for Trfel. This talking about me without actually talking to me is really getting on my nerves.
Wasn't aware that you were around.

I feel that your activity and involvement increased significantly when people were talking about lynching you.

Common for me as town. It also coincided with when we actually got lynches available but people seem to conveniently forget that.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 20:17 GMT
#2687
Anyone that pays attention to how I write can easily tell that the way that QT message is posted did not come from me. I do not type like that. If you want to argue I might be aware it gets posted and therefore alter my style, I wouldn't have posted what I did in-thread to begin with. I did nothing to highlight the global warming shit, just threw it in the thread as additional info. Makes no sense to do as scum.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 20:19 GMT
#2691
On August 21 2016 05:17 Trfel wrote:
Artanis, why do you think I am mafia?

You're a lot more useful when you're town. You've barely been around and your first scumread on me was thinking I was disformation. Since then, it feels like you've just decided to call me scum anyway. I don't see any real evolution in your reads and no conviction behind anything you're doing.

A small side thing was the usage of XD in the QT's which is something I think you're likely to use.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 20:27 GMT
#2694
On August 21 2016 05:25 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 05:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:17 Trfel wrote:
Artanis, why do you think I am mafia?

You're a lot more useful when you're town. You've barely been around and your first scumread on me was thinking I was disformation. Since then, it feels like you've just decided to call me scum anyway. I don't see any real evolution in your reads and no conviction behind anything you're doing.

A small side thing was the usage of XD in the QT's which is something I think you're likely to use.
Here's the thing I don't understand. You are a lot more useful when you are town than in this game. And you've already presented reasons that (I assume) you consider valid to explain this. Why is this a valid reason?

There is really no motivation for me to play the game when I have no ability to do anything. I've been sharing suspicious people who should be dealt with, but I can't do anything about it myself, and I don't even know who has KP or alignment checks.

I need to eat lunch, be back in a bit.

I have been very useful since I've been suspected. This has happened in plenty of other games in which I am town; I'm commonly considered for the Day 1 or Day 2 lynch, then this cycle where I get upset/annoyed and spout out a bunch of content happens and I'm mostly treated as confirmed town for the rest of the game. You've been suspected the entire game, and haven't done anything despite that. There's a lynch up and you're still not doing anything.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 20:42 GMT
#2696
On August 21 2016 05:41 sicklucker wrote:
alright fine ill give art another day. but ill probably nuke you tormorow

Very gracious of you to do so when momentum has already switched off, truly a meaningful gesture.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 21:09 GMT
#2701
On August 21 2016 06:00 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 05:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:25 Trfel wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:17 Trfel wrote:
Artanis, why do you think I am mafia?

You're a lot more useful when you're town. You've barely been around and your first scumread on me was thinking I was disformation. Since then, it feels like you've just decided to call me scum anyway. I don't see any real evolution in your reads and no conviction behind anything you're doing.

A small side thing was the usage of XD in the QT's which is something I think you're likely to use.
Here's the thing I don't understand. You are a lot more useful when you are town than in this game. And you've already presented reasons that (I assume) you consider valid to explain this. Why is this a valid reason?

There is really no motivation for me to play the game when I have no ability to do anything. I've been sharing suspicious people who should be dealt with, but I can't do anything about it myself, and I don't even know who has KP or alignment checks.

I need to eat lunch, be back in a bit.

I have been very useful since I've been suspected. This has happened in plenty of other games in which I am town; I'm commonly considered for the Day 1 or Day 2 lynch, then this cycle where I get upset/annoyed and spout out a bunch of content happens and I'm mostly treated as confirmed town for the rest of the game. You've been suspected the entire game, and haven't done anything despite that. There's a lynch up and you're still not doing anything.
I really don't understand how you can think this.

I'm very happy with the targets getting lynched. Are you not? Should I not be?

Why should I be doing anything else?

You mentioned Tumblewood. In your reads he's the top person in both lists, yet you're not expanding on him at all. Your list is very long but there appears to be no hierarchy in them. You're not working to find out which are the most likely to be scum between them, or if you have, you haven't made that clear at all. Who do you want to lynch the most, and who do you think isn't actually scum? What are you doing to discern the alignments of the people in your list?

Answer: Nothing.
On August 21 2016 06:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 05:13 Half the Sky wrote:
This is what the votes look like now with 1h45 left.

Europe:
IAMP (6): disformation, HTS, Koshi, MZ, Artanis, Dandel Ion, disformation, Artanis, HTS, Trfel
Artanis (4): Koshi, disformation, Rels, Kitaman, HTS, FF, sicklucker
GlowingBear (1): Rels
Damdred (0): Artanis

USA:
Skynx (8): Koshi, disformation, Rels, Kitaman, HTS, Fecalfeast, MZ, Dandel Ion, Artanis, sicklucker
Trfel (1): Artanis
GlowingBear (0): disformation, HTS, Artanis
sicklucker (0): Koshi

Let's do iamp first and give artanis another day.

##unvoteeu
##vote iamp

I have done enough today. If you still scumread me you should probably just kill me now and then follow my list.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 21:11 GMT
#2702
On August 21 2016 06:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also Koshi popping in and saying nothing bothers me.

Seriously, it feels like people just decided I'm scum and no one decided it's worth thinking critically about.

We did think critically and decided you were mafia.

I responded to all your points. A tonne has happened since then and you never got back to my responses or the activity I've generated. You (should) know I have a tendency to give up/don't give a fuck as scum, especially if my team sucks yet you're not processing the new data out of laziness. It's fairly annoying.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 21:16 GMT
#2705
On August 21 2016 06:13 Lunaticman wrote:
Shooting nukes is a mistake.

Killing chez is a mistake.


FYP

Chezinu is friend. Chezinu should not be killed.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 21:19 GMT
#2708
On August 21 2016 06:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 06:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 21 2016 06:08 Koshi wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also Koshi popping in and saying nothing bothers me.

Seriously, it feels like people just decided I'm scum and no one decided it's worth thinking critically about.

We did think critically and decided you were mafia.

I responded to all your points. A tonne has happened since then and you never got back to my responses or the activity I've generated. You (should) know I have a tendency to give up/don't give a fuck as scum, especially if my team sucks yet you're not processing the new data out of laziness. It's fairly annoying.

I was playing overwatch but I agree that it would be a crime to lynch you as town putting in this much effort. But my points still stand wether or not you answered them.

The HTS one was literally invalid as she mentioned she had already changed her mind before getting shot.
On August 21 2016 04:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 04:08 Rels wrote:
Skynx is super likely scum
Gonna vote GB for the second one. Iamp is a good choice too I feel


Most people on the EU side are on IAMP, I will probabIy switch because I don't want mafia to tamper with the lynch.
I hate leaving Artanis alive, but we should lynch most probable mafia, and I think the vig shot should be left on some mix of scummy lurkers - GB/Trfel/prplhz/what have you.

Also whoever mentioned scumming Artanis, I changed that read towards end of day 1 prior to getting shot.

Also really hate that Trfel only pops up when he's mentioned. His activity is dismal as either alignment but I'm definitely not seeing the quality posts he's capable of.

The others were equally flimsy.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 21:24 GMT
#2715
On August 21 2016 06:22 Koshi wrote:
You and Skynx look a lot like mafia buddies. Not only from that QT but also how you ignored him after QTs came out. You didn't say engage him at all, just told him to man up. Didn't vote him even though you were 100% certain that was mafia QT.

I was focussed on getting people off my back first. I told you this. I also didn't take a close look at the QT at first, only the part I was mentioned in to make sense of it. That was my primary focus of attention. My interactions with Skynx at that point were based on immediate interaction with what he was saying/doing at the time.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 21:24 GMT
#2717
On August 21 2016 06:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Swapped to iamp. Really fine with either at this point since they are both highly likely mafia. Still might be able to flip both with kp, right?


Have you read the thread entirely?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 20 2016 21:28 GMT
#2722
On August 21 2016 06:26 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 06:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 21 2016 06:00 Trfel wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:25 Trfel wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:17 Trfel wrote:
Artanis, why do you think I am mafia?

You're a lot more useful when you're town. You've barely been around and your first scumread on me was thinking I was disformation. Since then, it feels like you've just decided to call me scum anyway. I don't see any real evolution in your reads and no conviction behind anything you're doing.

A small side thing was the usage of XD in the QT's which is something I think you're likely to use.
Here's the thing I don't understand. You are a lot more useful when you are town than in this game. And you've already presented reasons that (I assume) you consider valid to explain this. Why is this a valid reason?

There is really no motivation for me to play the game when I have no ability to do anything. I've been sharing suspicious people who should be dealt with, but I can't do anything about it myself, and I don't even know who has KP or alignment checks.

I need to eat lunch, be back in a bit.

I have been very useful since I've been suspected. This has happened in plenty of other games in which I am town; I'm commonly considered for the Day 1 or Day 2 lynch, then this cycle where I get upset/annoyed and spout out a bunch of content happens and I'm mostly treated as confirmed town for the rest of the game. You've been suspected the entire game, and haven't done anything despite that. There's a lynch up and you're still not doing anything.
I really don't understand how you can think this.

I'm very happy with the targets getting lynched. Are you not? Should I not be?

Why should I be doing anything else?

You mentioned Tumblewood. In your reads he's the top person in both lists, yet you're not expanding on him at all. Your list is very long but there appears to be no hierarchy in them. You're not working to find out which are the most likely to be scum between them, or if you have, you haven't made that clear at all. Who do you want to lynch the most, and who do you think isn't actually scum? What are you doing to discern the alignments of the people in your list?

Answer: Nothing.
On August 21 2016 06:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 21 2016 05:13 Half the Sky wrote:
This is what the votes look like now with 1h45 left.

Europe:
IAMP (6): disformation, HTS, Koshi, MZ, Artanis, Dandel Ion, disformation, Artanis, HTS, Trfel
Artanis (4): Koshi, disformation, Rels, Kitaman, HTS, FF, sicklucker
GlowingBear (1): Rels
Damdred (0): Artanis

USA:
Skynx (8): Koshi, disformation, Rels, Kitaman, HTS, Fecalfeast, MZ, Dandel Ion, Artanis, sicklucker
Trfel (1): Artanis
GlowingBear (0): disformation, HTS, Artanis
sicklucker (0): Koshi

Let's do iamp first and give artanis another day.

##unvoteeu
##vote iamp

I have done enough today. If you still scumread me you should probably just kill me now and then follow my list.
List order is player filter order.

I think that everyone on those lists is likely anti town. I'm probably wrong on a few, sure, but reasons are there and they are good, and very readily apparent from filters.

Town isn't supposed to direct town power roles.

Where are you going with this?

You're.. not doing anything. That's been the point all along. Now you're asking me "why should I put in effort to find out who is the scummiest person when they're all doing things that make them look scummy?"

Are we playing the same game?
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