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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:53 GMT
#4205
Kitaman is highly correlated with Trfel. It's all in 4204.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:54 GMT
#4206
4203 debunked by 4204. Nice.

The difference was that my read was organic. Yours was not.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:54 GMT
#4207
And with that I'm going to take a break from here.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:18 GMT
#4231
On August 27 2016 00:12 sicklucker wrote:
IF what kita says is true tho that does make hts the mafia. because why would a mafia give his team mate a useless banana. why would anyone give anyone a useless banana. its all very confusing... fucking palmar


I'm back but only briefly.

Here's the bigger question, why is Kita overemphasising the mechanics. The mechs can be WIFOMed by both alignments.

I know you aren't reading filters but that is what mafia Kita is depending on.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:21 GMT
#4237
On August 27 2016 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:11 sicklucker wrote:
what was that thing about posting pictures of bananas leading to peoples deaths? was that nothing


The three people that posted banana pictures were given bananas.

HTS claimed that she could only shoot banana holders, which led to grack's death.

She admitted that we could have passed the banana to any player in the game and use it to kill her #1 scum read, but for whatever reason she decided to shoot grack instead who was #8.


I took Holyflare's picture (I know he posted) as a troll picture and I had no idea if those people were claiming with those pictures or posting for fun or trolling.

And passing the banana to another player would have taken another cycle. You can only do that during the day and that was one thing I considered. I made it very clear I'd have held the shot otherwise. I was shot day 1 but that's besides the point.

Again, you are spinning things to make it look like I'm mafia.

To get me lynched, you also need to argue why the player who shot me hasn't come out yet. If you are arguing in favour of a mafia medic. Town vig shouldn't be afraid to claim the shot on me.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:22 GMT
#4239
On August 27 2016 00:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:18 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 27 2016 00:12 sicklucker wrote:
IF what kita says is true tho that does make hts the mafia. because why would a mafia give his team mate a useless banana. why would anyone give anyone a useless banana. its all very confusing... fucking palmar


I'm back but only briefly.

Here's the bigger question, why is Kita overemphasising the mechanics. The mechs can be WIFOMed by both alignments.

I know you aren't reading filters but that is what mafia Kita is depending on.


well you should try it because from a neutral perspective regardless of his alignment he is owning you and making you look bad


That would be because you are looking at the mechanics and not gameplay. You are looking that we both had bad reads all game.

What you are ignoring....is the WHY.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:23 GMT
#4241
On August 27 2016 00:22 kitaman27 wrote:
Are you the banana QT luna?

At what point did you gain access to your QT? The exact start of day 2?

Which QT were you from the ones disfo posted?


Nope, we weren't the banana QT but I'll let Luna speak up as to how we got in a mason QT.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:25 GMT
#4246
On August 27 2016 00:23 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:20 Lunaticman wrote:
My god, this is just too important to leave out since this might be the last day but me and HtS has been masons since day 2.


Am I allowed to post the QT?


WUT? HOLY FUCK YES


Luna, you masoned me end of day 2 for day 3.

He typoed here and I know this because I used kp day 1 and conversion day 2 for Luna's zombies.

Day 3 QT made me lose my powers including the ability to convert.

And this is verifiable through Koshi.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:26 GMT
#4248
On August 27 2016 00:24 sicklucker wrote:
hts how do you honestly think it was ok to leave out that you were in a mason qt... like how can you omg... scum


The mason QT was in Luna's ability not mine. I typed out just now how it works.

I left it out because it was a day 3 QT and it was irrelevant to the discussion

Luna could choose a player of his liking and mason with them.

It will also explain the (unexplained) townreads I've had on him too.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:28 GMT
#4251
I got two bananas. One I claimed in thread, second I got via Palmar during furnace cycle. But I did not give bananas to people.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:28 GMT
#4252
Posting the QT would clear me actually.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:29 GMT
#4256
On August 27 2016 00:27 sicklucker wrote:
hts claims she has been in a private qt. I have been talking about private qts for the last 5 hours but only brings it up when lunaticman mentions it.

[image loading]


There is a reason I did this.

(Hint: Koshi mentions Luna as possible mafia.)

My QT was not relevant to what GB brought up because it only existed Day 3.

(Luna typoed but we can also work around that.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:30 GMT
#4259
On August 27 2016 00:28 Lunaticman wrote:
But the crux is I have no idea if HtS really is town, I just masoned her and removed all her abilities but none of her items.

However She never told me she targeted me with her ability in the QT...

AAAA this is so confusing.


You're right I actually did forget to do this. That was my fault.

My power as I told you was to convert extremists to moderates, that would get me 500 points. I had no idea who to target, so I just picked people at random.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:35 GMT
#4267
On August 27 2016 00:28 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:26 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 27 2016 00:22 kitaman27 wrote:
Are you the banana QT luna?

At what point did you gain access to your QT? The exact start of day 2?

Which QT were you from the ones disfo posted?


No I'm Arthas, Hts has the bananas but I don't know if that makes her the mafia though. I'm really tired so I can't really understand your argument.

HtS if she is mafia I would be amazed, she has been nothing but forthright with her abilities all game. Unfortunately we never really had the chance to use them properly. Every kill we agreed upon though has been town so I'm a bit confused by that.


if hts has the bananas shes 100% mafia... how do you know this? she said 2 hours ago she does not have the bananas


I had the banna I was given day 2, and I assumed I had it through day 3 since I was given a banna by day 3.

And yeah every kill we agree on will be town when town are on the wrong track with the number of afk/scumy townies there have been.

My concern is that people are ignoring filters and read development/origination and just trying to spin the mechanics which is very dangerous.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:36 GMT
#4270
On August 27 2016 00:32 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Luna could choose a player of his liking and mason with them.

It will also explain the (unexplained) townreads I've had on him too.


Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 04:58 Half the Sky wrote:
There were and still are at least two other if not three other mafia that are just coasting right now. It could be any in the line of Kurumi, Luna, Fecalfeast, Stutters or Kitaman as I suspect is the active mafia.


Lies, lies, and more lies.


Nope. I know I said that purposely and I did that for a reason.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:37 GMT
#4272
Here's a hint: who's actually been pushing Luna or bringing him up versus who hasn't?

That gives me more information on who was aligned with whom.

Nice try Kita with the cherry picking.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:39 GMT
#4274
On August 27 2016 00:32 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:31 Lunaticman wrote:
Listen can I post the QT, please answer me.


Even if you can't, does it confirm HTS as town like she is saying or is she making that part up?


The QT is unconfirmed by default because Luna picked me. My townreads on him were my reads based on our discussion in the QT, which none of you can see.

Also in addition to what I started off on him. I also made some deductions based on the conditions of the QT that we had to be same alignment which I should be able to state.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:42 GMT
#4279
On August 27 2016 00:37 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Posting the QT would clear me actually.


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:28 Lunaticman wrote:
But the crux is I have no idea if HtS really is town


Luna, could you explain this? Why is she saying that the QT would confirm her as town, but you're saying that you don't know.


The QT would "clear" me against the absurd point you're bringing up about the bananas.

The condition of the QT is that I have to ensure that Lunaticman survives until end game. I used that opportunity to get the best read on him regardless.

My deduction is that if Luna was mafia, then helping him with this objective would be against my wincon. It is a points based objective.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:44 GMT
#4284
On August 27 2016 00:39 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:35 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 27 2016 00:28 sicklucker wrote:
On August 27 2016 00:26 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 27 2016 00:22 kitaman27 wrote:
Are you the banana QT luna?

At what point did you gain access to your QT? The exact start of day 2?

Which QT were you from the ones disfo posted?


No I'm Arthas, Hts has the bananas but I don't know if that makes her the mafia though. I'm really tired so I can't really understand your argument.

HtS if she is mafia I would be amazed, she has been nothing but forthright with her abilities all game. Unfortunately we never really had the chance to use them properly. Every kill we agreed upon though has been town so I'm a bit confused by that.


if hts has the bananas shes 100% mafia... how do you know this? she said 2 hours ago she does not have the bananas


I had the banna I was given day 2, and I assumed I had it through day 3 since I was given a banna by day 3.

And yeah every kill we agree on will be town when town are on the wrong track with the number of afk/scumy townies there have been.

My concern is that people are ignoring filters and read development/origination and just trying to spin the mechanics which is very dangerous.


why did you lie about not being the person who had the bananas? Like when I asked that person to claim because it makes tumbleweed 100% mafia. BECUASE IT MAKES TUMBLEWEED 100% MAFIA.

ok im done with you your mafia. are you claiming qt#3 is not you?


You are confusing bananas (given to) with banana bunch (giver).

I didn't lie. You are getting the two confused.

I got one banana day 2 which I claimed.

Day 3 from Palmar.

I did not start out with any bananas.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 15:46 GMT
#4287
On August 27 2016 00:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 00:42 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 27 2016 00:37 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 27 2016 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Posting the QT would clear me actually.


On August 27 2016 00:28 Lunaticman wrote:
But the crux is I have no idea if HtS really is town


Luna, could you explain this? Why is she saying that the QT would confirm her as town, but you're saying that you don't know.


The QT would "clear" me against the absurd point you're bringing up about the bananas.

The condition of the QT is that I have to ensure that Lunaticman survives until end game. I used that opportunity to get the best read on him regardless.

My deduction is that if Luna was mafia, then helping him with this objective would be against my wincon. It is a points based objective.


ALL POINTS BASED OBJECTIVES ARE SECONDARY WIN CONDITIONS.

THEY HAVE NOTHING TO WITH YOU BEING YOUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE.

LOOK AT HOW HTS IS TRYING TO WEASEL INTO A CONFIRMED TOWN READ BY TWISTING THE FACTS


Nope, try harder Kita. I made my own thoughts rightly or wrong.

If he did something that was off I could have just abandoned the QT.

I even said that Luna picking me by default doesn't make me confirmed it is by default an unconfirmed QT.

You are the one spinning my words. I am simply just repeating what I said in the QT.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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