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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 13:58 GMT
#4134
On August 26 2016 22:56 sicklucker wrote:
like I was totally agreeing with you 20 minutes ago that kita is mafia. but your actions here are just not making anysense. I know you know who has the bananas since its related to you somehow


I looked for people who claimed bananas in thread.
Cycle after that I received one. In my PM it did not say who gave me the banana.

I don't know who has the bananas or quite frankly why it was even alignment indicative.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:00 GMT
#4136
On August 26 2016 22:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +

QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.

For posting that banana picture."


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Kitaman


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Kitaman?


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On August 19 2016 23:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Second, at no point did I have access to any QT


If the person in QT 3 isn't HTS, I'll eat my hat. She's lying.


If people were easily able to frame or impersonate or whatever, it's not hard to do the same for one word.

That doesn't make me mafia. Try again.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:02 GMT
#4140
Okay, that's a fair point in 4137, but fine and dandy but like I said I never had access to the QTs and I already explained the disconnect with my ignoring the bananas.

It doesn't make me mafia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:06 GMT
#4142
On August 26 2016 23:02 kitaman27 wrote:
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On August 19 2016 09:19 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm back. Work has been a beast. Actually it's been pretty terrible but I digress.

Anyhow first things first, I'm claiming the shot on Grackaroni.


I bet this is what went down.

HTS was busy at work and had no clue that her post about banans from the mafia qt was reveled by glowingbear.

She claimed the shot on Grack and then realized that she accidently outed herself so she pretended to not know anything about where they came from.

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On August 20 2016 00:49 Half the Sky wrote:
I suppose anyone with any information on where bananas are coming from would be greatly useful right now.


Then I make my huge argument about how the banana vig is mafia, she brushes it under the rug and then never brings it up again.


Where did you make that argument? I remember you suggested I was giving the bananas and then you clarified I was the banana shooter and then backed off.

On August 19 2016 11:02 kitaman27 wrote:
And while we're on this topic....you're a vig that just happens to be able to shoot players that post pictures of bananas. And three people just happened to post pictures of bananas by complete coincidence without you making any attempt to bait that out? Talk about a long shot...


On August 19 2016 11:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Oh are you maybe the banana shooter, but not the banana giver? That would make the puzzle start to come together....


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

There was no need to "sweep it under the rug." You did that yourself.

Keep it up with the spin.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:07 GMT
#4144
On August 26 2016 23:03 kitaman27 wrote:
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On August 26 2016 23:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Okay, that's a fair point in 4137, but fine and dandy but like I said I never had access to the QTs and I already explained the disconnect with my ignoring the bananas.

It doesn't make me mafia.


Do you think the banana giver is mafia?


The banana giver could mechanically be any alignment.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:07 GMT
#4145
sicklucker let me go back to the QTs. I am still not getting the connection with Tumble.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:13 GMT
#4152
Okay I'm reading now.

"Welp Tumble lost..." QT 1

Okay I see that.

The connection I'm missing is why people are absolutely concluding that the banana giver has to be associated with one alignment or another.

I'm also not convinced 5 town qts aren't impossible. If they were all confirmed from the get go, everyone could just mass claim. There are 28-29 people in the game. I don't see 5 unconfirmed qts where all are town are impossible.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:17 GMT
#4154
Like SL you are saying they are confirmed now. But at the beginning if you are masoned and you're confirmed town you'd know that.

You can't ignore the possibility as to the fact also that in these types of games (Carol is one example I can think of) where QTs are not necessarily created at the beginning, by default those qts are unconfirmed I think. So Palmar could have started with 3 QTs and depending on when additional QTs were created or if players had those types of powers, you can still get 5 QTs with all town.

That's partially why I'm disregarding that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:19 GMT
#4158
Okay so you're saying the banana role is mafia for not claiming because he's theoretically afraid to claim.

Here's another theory that no one has brought up yet.

Did anyone's PMs say from WHOM the bananas were given from?

Because now that I think about it....I think I know who might be giving the bananas.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:25 GMT
#4166
On August 26 2016 23:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Furthermore, we know the banana giver is still alive. Why would a town banana giver not claim to put a stop to this mess?


I'm just going to come out and say it, even at the risk of a modkill.

Palmar might be giving out the bananas either upon a trigger, or at random.

How do I know this?

Remember last cycle when I corrected Palmar on the votecount?

I got a banana. And during that cycle, everyone's stuff was disabled.

I realise that doesn't explain the "going down with the ship" comment but I don't see how you can eliminate that possibility it could have come from a townie who was about to get lynched/vigged/nuked/whatever.

You all can choose not to believe the bolded and that's fine.

And Kita, you are misdirecting using these QTs from some of the other mafia, I know what you're up to here.

I really have nothing to hide.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:27 GMT
#4170
On August 26 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:
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On August 26 2016 23:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Another thing about HTS....

Koshi mentioned that she controls the zombie army, but HTS never even mentioned it until I asked her directly a full day later.

She replied that Koshi was lying about that, but she never felt it was important to point out the lie? And now after Koshi has shot disfo, she wants to side with him?!

This is so obvious guys

Is this true? HTS is Arthas from WCIII. I know she made them civilized.


Koshi said what he watched was an interpretation and he disclaimed he could be wrong. He was right that I shot Grack, but he was wrong on the zombie army.

I know I've said at least once I've had nothing to do with the zombies.

And Koshi, no I'm a British actor, my main active ability besides the kp was to use my comedian skills to convert extremists to moderates.

So I'm not sure where you're getting that part from. It doesn't make you mafia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:29 GMT
#4174
On August 26 2016 23:26 kitaman27 wrote:
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On August 26 2016 23:25 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 26 2016 23:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Furthermore, we know the banana giver is still alive. Why would a town banana giver not claim to put a stop to this mess?


I'm just going to come out and say it, even at the risk of a modkill.

Palmar might be giving out the bananas either upon a trigger, or at random.

How do I know this?

Remember last cycle when I corrected Palmar on the votecount?

I got a banana. And during that cycle, everyone's stuff was disabled.

I realise that doesn't explain the "going down with the ship" comment but I don't see how you can eliminate that possibility it could have come from a townie who was about to get lynched/vigged/nuked/whatever.

You all can choose not to believe the bolded and that's fine.

And Kita, you are misdirecting using these QTs from some of the other mafia, I know what you're up to here.

I really have nothing to hide.


BAHAHA PALMAR IS GIVING OUT THE BANANAS?

That's why Palmar is talking in the QT about handing them out?

That's why Palmar is saying how he is going to go down with the ship and get lynched?

Cmon now



Well he gave one to me during the cycle that no one could do anything, the furnace cycle.

People in the thread have claimed they got bananas but not from whom.

I didn't say Palmar was in QT.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:30 GMT
#4175
On August 26 2016 23:28 Koshi wrote:
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On August 26 2016 23:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 26 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2016 23:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Another thing about HTS....

Koshi mentioned that she controls the zombie army, but HTS never even mentioned it until I asked her directly a full day later.

She replied that Koshi was lying about that, but she never felt it was important to point out the lie? And now after Koshi has shot disfo, she wants to side with him?!

This is so obvious guys

Is this true? HTS is Arthas from WCIII. I know she made them civilized.


Koshi said what he watched was an interpretation and he disclaimed he could be wrong. He was right that I shot Grack, but he was wrong on the zombie army.

I know I've said at least once I've had nothing to do with the zombies.

And Koshi, no I'm a British actor, my main active ability besides the kp was to use my comedian skills to convert extremists to moderates.

So I'm not sure where you're getting that part from. It doesn't make you mafia.

Oh then you made Arthas a moderate skeleton leader or something. Did you use your ability on somebody?


The only person I used my ability on was Luna day 2. I really had no idea who was a extremist.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:33 GMT
#4184
Okay QT 3 does say the banana was given to Kita. Still doesn't make me mafia though.

Palmar gave me a banana furnace cycle for god knows what reason.

On August 18 2016 02:56 kitaman27 wrote:
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On August 18 2016 02:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Kitaman tried to frame me over this banana shit. He moves to the top of my scum list.


wut? I'm trying to figure out who gave me the thing. The only time I mentioned you was because you called me kitaman, which is really the only info we have to go by


Not surprised it's happening again, but whatever.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:34 GMT
#4187
On August 26 2016 23:31 kitaman27 wrote:
Lets just vote HTS and get this over with.


Nope, you completely trying to protect Rels too...zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Killing me is your best chance of winning today.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:35 GMT
#4189
On August 26 2016 23:33 Koshi wrote:
Lunatic is Arthas from WCIII. I am not 100% on that. And he has kp.


Luna's last reads were Kita/Rels/Iamp.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:36 GMT
#4191
On August 26 2016 23:35 sicklucker wrote:
ya also the 6 players hts suggest to be shot are all town including myself. even trefl was listed above us lul. she said vig my bottom 6 and had trefel at 7. LULZ


?????????????????

On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote:
This is where I am:

Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more:
GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine)
Dandel Ion (meh)
Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion)
Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?)
MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him)

The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile:
Rels (pending catching up)
Stutters695
Kurumi
Shapelog
Fecalfeast

Possible scum
Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter)
sicklucker (where are the reads)
Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to)

Scum reads
prplhz
Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum)
IAP

I would say that vigis should target the bottom six players.


Where are you getting 7?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:38 GMT
#4195
On August 26 2016 23:37 sicklucker wrote:
ok fuck she does say shoot trefel damn. well he was obv being bussed just found that funny not posting that for acual reads


I called Trfel out before the Ikea announcement. Take that as you will.

Also Kitaman pointed out to lynch Trfel right before he would have died to Fox News.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:45 GMT
#4202
On August 26 2016 23:39 sicklucker wrote:
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On August 26 2016 23:34 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 26 2016 23:31 kitaman27 wrote:
Lets just vote HTS and get this over with.


Nope, you completely trying to protect Rels too...zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Killing me is your best chance of winning today.


it could also be argued you are trying to protect koshi...

So I really feel like we should just lynch one from each side and get a free kill with the other...

Why do you guys think the games going to end today if we dont kill two mafia? Theres no evidence of this. Mafia has shown very little kp in this game at most they should have 1.


I have the impression there are 2kp given that I was shot day 1, Vivax was shot day 1, I imagine they could have at least one now in addition to the lynch and it would be consequential/endgame likely if we mislynch. And we don't know what Koshi has.

Also I've presented three different mechanical theories for why Koshi isn't necessarily mafia. There were at least two other mafia before Koshi went insane. If you want to disagree with that that's fine.

You aren't looking into what Koshi is doing now either.

I honestly think Koshi's role was either sabotaged or whatever as a distraction, and my scumreads were eager to pile on him without looking for others.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 26 2016 14:53 GMT
#4204
Kitaman

On August 17 2016 21:08 Half the Sky wrote:
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On August 17 2016 16:18 Trfel wrote:
Is anyone awake still?

Still trying to make sense of Onegu and Artanis... While Onegu's actions and specific claims seem very scummy, his play is marked by so much not caring, and Onegu tends to take his scum play relatively seriously. On the other hand, third party feels very likely.

I liked Artanis after skim reading, but then realized that he actually hasn't been doing anything.
It feels like he's just trying to seem active and present but he hasn't felt invested at all. In addition to being so secretive about (seemingly) taking control of Superbia's body...

I definitely support killing Onegu with the FOX News thing. Maybe Shapelog would also qualify as anti-American...


Trfel is someone that I know spins behaviour to be mafia when he is exclusively mafia.

(1) Artanis had not been hiding the DGAF attitude so he didn't care that he was getting scumread for it, which is actually a towny trait
(2) The so called bounty hunter role (or the action of controlling someone's body) is a mechanic that (knowing Palmar) could be assigned to either alignment
(3) Onegu will "not care" what others think as town or scum (the latter example: see Outlaw).

So I really don't like that post either.


This post I made well before the IKEA announcement.

On August 18 2016 07:59 ritoky wrote:
Fox News!

A fair and balanced look at American society

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Breaking News: Unpatriotic Man Being Chased Through Ikea


Here is live footage from our associate's GoPro:

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More information as the situation develops!


Trfel continued making scummy posts. I didn't have perfect information. That was the basis for my read.

You on the other hand

On August 17 2016 11:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Haven't bothered with filter dives yet, but aside from maybe 1 afk straggler, the mafias are in here.

Onegu
prplhz
Artanis[Xp]
Lunaticman
Dandel Ion
Shapelog
GlowingBear
iamperfection
sicklucker
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu

I'll see if I can narrow this down a bit more and come up with a top 3 or something.


LEFT TRFEL OFF YOUR LIST.

This amongst other things suggests you are much more strongly connected to Trfel than me.

On August 17 2016 23:53 kitaman27 wrote:
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On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote:
This is where I am:

Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more:
GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine)
Dandel Ion (meh)
Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion)
Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?)
MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him)

The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile:
Rels (pending catching up)
Stutters695
Kurumi
Shapelog
Fecalfeast

Possible scum
Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter)
sicklucker (where are the reads)
Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to)

Scum reads
prplhz
Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum)
IAP


I would move GB and Luna down to one of the lower tiers and suggest the vig's focus on the scum reads, while using investigative roles on the trash pile, but this is a solid list overall.


THAT post above is BEFORE Ikea announcement, and you want vigs to focus on the scumreads. Trfel is just above that category.

Then soon after IKEA announcement

On August 19 2016 06:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Here is where I'm at right now.

Really Town
Half the Sky
Koshi
Disformation
Tumblewood
kitaman27

Mostly Townie
Skynx
Damdred
Dandel Ion
Fecalfeast

No Clue
Kurumi
Stutters695
Trfel
Rels
sicklucker
Shapelog

Kinda scummy, but less so than group below
Artanis[Xp]
Lunaticman
Meapak_Ziphh

Probably Mafia
GlowingBear
iamperfection
prplhz
Chezinu


THEN OUT OF NOWHERE

On August 20 2016 08:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Sweet :D

I'd say GlowingBear, Trfel, iamperfection, and chezinu are the priorities.

We have a couple vig shots too right? I wonder if we can take out all of them.


It's just like magic folks.
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