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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:00 GMT
#4137
On August 26 2016 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 22:54 kitaman27 wrote:

QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.

For posting that banana picture."


On August 16 2016 21:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


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Kitaman


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Kitaman?


On August 26 2016 05:36 Half the Sky wrote:
kitaman


On August 26 2016 05:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 19:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 20:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:20 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:43 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 19 2016 23:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Second, at no point did I have access to any QT


If the person in QT 3 isn't HTS, I'll eat my hat. She's lying.


If people were easily able to frame or impersonate or whatever, it's not hard to do the same for one word.

That doesn't make me mafia. Try again.


THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. THIS WAS DAY ONE. MAFIA DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE QT SPYING.

YOU'RE LOSING YOUR GRIP
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:02 GMT
#4139
On August 19 2016 09:19 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm back. Work has been a beast. Actually it's been pretty terrible but I digress.

Anyhow first things first, I'm claiming the shot on Grackaroni.


I bet this is what went down.

HTS was busy at work and had no clue that her post about banans from the mafia qt was reveled by glowingbear.

She claimed the shot on Grack and then realized that she accidently outed herself so she pretended to not know anything about where they came from.

On August 20 2016 00:49 Half the Sky wrote:
I suppose anyone with any information on where bananas are coming from would be greatly useful right now.


Then I make my huge argument about how the banana vig is mafia, she brushes it under the rug and then never brings it up again.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:03 GMT
#4141
On August 26 2016 23:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Okay, that's a fair point in 4137, but fine and dandy but like I said I never had access to the QTs and I already explained the disconnect with my ignoring the bananas.

It doesn't make me mafia.


Do you think the banana giver is mafia?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:06 GMT
#4143
On August 26 2016 23:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 23:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Okay, that's a fair point in 4137, but fine and dandy but like I said I never had access to the QTs and I already explained the disconnect with my ignoring the bananas.

It doesn't make me mafia.


Do you think the banana giver is mafia?


Answer this one please.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:10 GMT
#4148
On August 26 2016 23:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 23:03 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 26 2016 23:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Okay, that's a fair point in 4137, but fine and dandy but like I said I never had access to the QTs and I already explained the disconnect with my ignoring the bananas.

It doesn't make me mafia.


Do you think the banana giver is mafia?


The banana giver could mechanically be any alignment.


But the banana giver is in the same quicktopic as the player want agrees to "go down with the ship", why would a town player say that?

Furthermore, we've all been assuming that the banana qt was the mafia qt. You don't think a town player would want to clear that up? Especially now that we are all vanilla townies and the bananas are irrelevant to the game?

The fact that you won't admit that QT #3 is clearly the mafia QT makes you look really scummy
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:15 GMT
#4153
On August 26 2016 23:13 Half the Sky wrote:
The connection I'm missing is why people are absolutely concluding that the banana giver has to be associated with one alignment or another.


On August 26 2016 23:10 kitaman27 wrote:
But the banana giver is in the same quicktopic as the player want agrees to "go down with the ship", why would a town player say that?

Furthermore, we've all been assuming that the banana qt was the mafia qt. You don't think a town player would want to clear that up? Especially now that we are all vanilla townies and the bananas are irrelevant to the game?

The fact that you won't admit that QT #3 is clearly the mafia QT makes you look really scummy

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:20 GMT
#4160
On August 26 2016 23:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Like SL you are saying they are confirmed now. But at the beginning if you are masoned and you're confirmed town you'd know that.

You can't ignore the possibility as to the fact also that in these types of games (Carol is one example I can think of) where QTs are not necessarily created at the beginning, by default those qts are unconfirmed I think. So Palmar could have started with 3 QTs and depending on when additional QTs were created or if players had those types of powers, you can still get 5 QTs with all town.

That's partially why I'm disregarding that.


No, you're misdirecting.

You're using mechanics to excuse yourself from analyzing the content.

On August 18 2016 00:54 GlowingBear wrote:
- "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship."


Why would a townie every say this? If you can't recognize this is so incredibly mafia sounding, then I don't know what to say.

Furthermore, we know the banana giver is still alive. Why would a town banana giver not claim to put a stop to this mess?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:23 GMT
#4163
Another thing about HTS....

Koshi mentioned that she controls the zombie army, but HTS never even mentioned it until I asked her directly a full day later.

She replied that Koshi was lying about that, but she never felt it was important to point out the lie? And now after Koshi has shot disfo, she wants to side with him?!

This is so obvious guys
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:25 GMT
#4167
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THE LICH KING BE SHOOTING PLAYERS WITH BANANAS?!!!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:26 GMT
#4169
On August 26 2016 23:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 23:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Furthermore, we know the banana giver is still alive. Why would a town banana giver not claim to put a stop to this mess?


I'm just going to come out and say it, even at the risk of a modkill.

Palmar might be giving out the bananas either upon a trigger, or at random.

How do I know this?

Remember last cycle when I corrected Palmar on the votecount?

I got a banana. And during that cycle, everyone's stuff was disabled.

I realise that doesn't explain the "going down with the ship" comment but I don't see how you can eliminate that possibility it could have come from a townie who was about to get lynched/vigged/nuked/whatever.

You all can choose not to believe the bolded and that's fine.

And Kita, you are misdirecting using these QTs from some of the other mafia, I know what you're up to here.

I really have nothing to hide.


BAHAHA PALMAR IS GIVING OUT THE BANANAS?

That's why Palmar is talking in the QT about handing them out?

That's why Palmar is saying how he is going to go down with the ship and get lynched?

Cmon now

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:29 GMT
#4173
Also Palmar calls me kita.

Unlike someone else....


QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.

For posting that banana picture."


On August 16 2016 21:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 16 2016 22:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 17 2016 00:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 17 2016 01:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 17 2016 20:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 19 2016 23:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 19 2016 23:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 20 2016 00:55 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 20 2016 03:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 20 2016 22:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 22 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 23 2016 08:34 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 23 2016 22:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 23 2016 23:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 23 2016 23:30 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 24 2016 04:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 24 2016 07:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 25 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 25 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 25 2016 07:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 04:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 05:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman?


On August 26 2016 05:36 Half the Sky wrote:
kitaman


On August 26 2016 05:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 19:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 20:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:20 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


On August 26 2016 21:43 Half the Sky wrote:
Kitaman


I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:30 GMT
#4176
On August 26 2016 23:28 sicklucker wrote:
I think its really stupid to lynch outside of hts/kita. let them battle it out its the best chance of me getting a good read rather then lynching lurkers and lynch bait. I can just shoot dandred and if we hit on hts/kita its 2 mafia almost everytime


I'm more than happy to take the 1 for 1 trade.

I think the evidence shows it's more than obvious that she lying, but if I have to die first to flip her after, then so be it.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:31 GMT
#4179
Lets just vote HTS and get this over with.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:42 GMT
#4199
On August 17 2016 01:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Policy lynch category (if we had lynches but you get the idea)
Kurumi
Fecalfeast
MZ (Not dead, but has a green check)
Shapelog

Scumlean
IAP

Probable scum
Artanis
Onegu
GlowingBear


Since HTS likes to keep bringing up my reads flipping town, lets take a look at hers.

On August 20 2016 08:23 Half the Sky wrote:
Trfel isn't a bad idea.


On August 21 2016 06:54 Half the Sky wrote:
second kp should go on Trfel or prplhz. I can see the reasoning for Shape though. I'd probably kp prplhz, but that's just me.


She also calls for a kp to be wated on Trfel when he is already about to die.

On August 22 2016 21:01 Half the Sky wrote:
(1) IF YOU ARE TOWN AND NOT LOCATED IN SPACE, YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR KOSHI.

(2) IF YOU ARE TOWN AND LOCATED IN SPACE, RALLY EVERYONE ELSE TO VOTE FOR KOSHI FUCK IT JUST VOTE FOR KOSHI ANYWAYS.


FAILURE TO DO EITHER, you are claiming scum.

Fixed.

<3


She guaranteed that Koshi would get elected on day three.

On August 23 2016 07:48 Half the Sky wrote:
I also agree with your list.


On August 23 2016 23:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Damdred, here's the other question - we're making sure everyone is on board with Kitaman's kill list of prplhz/GB/Chez.


Finally she attacks me for going after all the afk townies, saying that it must make me mafia.

Well guess who 100% agreed with my list at the time? HTS. In fact, she made sure everyone was on board with my plan, yet now that they flipped town, she uses it as an excuse to show that I'm mafia, while she acts if she played no part in it.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:47 GMT
#4203
Why HTS is mafia

1) Her scum reads this game are all on townies. She repeats multiple times that I'm mafia because of this, when there are several instances of her replying to my list posts saying that they are good.

2) She chose to shoot grack when she had 8 other players that she said was a better shot.

3) She refers to me as kitaman all the time, which matches the unclaimed banana giver.

4) She refuses to admit that QT #3 is the mafia qt. She comes up with a bunch of nonsense about it being 5 town qts or that Palmar is the banana giver to avoid the subject

5) She tried to get trfel lynched or shot on day two to waste a kp

6) She pushed incredibly hard to get koshi elected, who proceeded to shoot disfo. Now she continues to side with him, when he is clearly anti-town
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 14:55 GMT
#4209
The difference is that there is irrefutable evidence that I'm not part of QT #3 and you probably are.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 15:03 GMT
#4212
If we assume 5-6 mafia at the start of the game, there are 4-5 mafia remaining. If the two survivor claims are actually survivors, that means mafia has 6-7 votes this cycle.

There are 13 players remaining:

Tumblewood
Rels
Lunaticman
Kurumi
kitaman27
Stutters695
Damdred
Fecalfeast
Koshi
iamperfection
sicklucker
Meapak_Ziphh
Half the Sky

If mafia/survivors has 7 members remaining, they control the vote with 7/13. If mafia/survivors has 6 members remaining, then a single town player messing up their vote means they win.

That is why it is so incredibly important that town takes a stand here.

Either vote me or vote HTS.

Throwing your vote away on a side wagon means we lose automatically.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 15:04 GMT
#4213
And furthermore, if they can convince SL to shoot a townie, that essentially GUARANTEES A MAFIA WIN regardless of the lynch because of straight up numbers.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 15:06 GMT
#4215
On August 26 2016 05:43 Kurumi wrote:
##vote Koshi


Kurumi, please please please don't throw your vote away here.

You gotta choose between HTS and myself. Any player that is voting elsewhere essentially throws away the game for free.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 26 2016 15:08 GMT
#4216
On August 27 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
But there is also another conflicting scenario and I think this is just as likely if not more.

QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.

For posting that banana picture."

- "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship."

Kita if mafia is giving you the banana why is it up for you to decide its power? Is it perhaps because you are mafia with them? gg?


Dandel who also received the banana confirmed that nothing happened.

Furthermore, if I'm in QT 3 it would be phrased as "oh and I gave you a banana kitaman. It's mostly up to your imagination what you do with it."
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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