On July 23 2016 07:49 Onegu wrote: The fucking name of the game is satirical. I am one of the worst hosts on TL. But I am hosting for you and I will promise to have good cohosts and do my best, Dont ruin my game!!! If you do I am very heavy handed in my ban requests.
Roll me scum, I and I will pray to you, my wonderful hosting god!
With 9 alive it takes 5 to insta-lynch. Deadline is in on Monday, Jul 25 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) The other day: l, lik.. LOL!+ Show Spoiler [Hl=9#Σ12==" IDONNOW] +
ave you guys ever had this happen to YOU
?
I swear to WATER, man. I'm looking at the time:-; Aaaahhnd... :lt's ~ ......;-;...... not accurate AT ALL : I switch back PM to AM *wipes sweat And .. I swear to water I'll RATHER DIE before l + Show Spoiler [ľooze any more time ON THIS F**KING ߧ] +
On July 23 2016 07:49 Onegu wrote: The fucking name of the game is satirical. I am one of the worst hosts on TL. But I am hosting for you and I will promise to have good cohosts and do my best, Dont ruin my game!!! If you do I am very heavy handed in my ban requests.
Roll me scum, I and I will pray to you, my wonderful hosting god!
With 9 alive it takes 5 to insta-lynch. Deadline is in on Monday, Jul 25 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) The other day: l, lik.. LOL!+ Show Spoiler [Hl=9#Σ12==" IDONNOW] +
ave you guys ever had this happen to YOU
?
I swear to WATER, man. I'm looking at the time:-; Aaaahhnd... :lt's ~ ......;-;...... not accurate AT ALL : I switch back PM to AM *wipes sweat And .. I swear to water I'll RATHER DIE before l + Show Spoiler [ľooze any more time ON THIS F**KING ߧ] +
On July 23 2016 07:49 Onegu wrote: The fucking name of the game is satirical. I am one of the worst hosts on TL. But I am hosting for you and I will promise to have good cohosts and do my best, Dont ruin my game!!! If you do I am very heavy handed in my ban requests.
Roll me scum, I and I will pray to you, my wonderful hosting god!
/in
If you do ruin the game, don't get caught
Why do you think I bus?
shape irl
You know, I am like a Kobussen Bus. I am outdated, filled with High energy like that of Highschool kids, and will take you where you want to go, Just 1 and a half years late.
On July 26 2016 12:21 Race Bannon wrote: l Think it's §afe to say you've earned your Reever §d
On August 05 2016 09:19 Grackaroni wrote: Need one more. Perhaps somebody with a very hot, fiery appendage. Too bad there's nobody sexy enough to meet that criteria.
Sexy? How about the heart break kid, Shawn Micheals?
On August 06 2016 06:07 disformation wrote: eh time conversion too complicated. does the game start in 1h or 25h? xD since the deadline is 00:00 my time, technically tomorrow would be in 1h. xD
25h
Onegu is east coast, I am east coast. Tomorrow is about 7 hours away.
Yeah i kinda agree with the Time stamp tone points w/ dis. I never played with Dis, let alone honestly paid much attention to his overall grammar from Obs threads. But, I do notice the slight forcefulness in those early posts. Going to see what else he has done.
On August 07 2016 09:13 GlowingBear wrote: I'm town, I'll suck, don't lynch me, bye
On August 07 2016 13:07 Damdred wrote: Honestly was just busy tonight but I'm here for a bit.
I can live with a disf pressure today see where it goes but we will see.
GB could potentially be my friend.
I'M YOUR FRAND!
Trust me, disformation is mafia.
ooh what about GB pushing disfo mislynch meh probably not
Noting this, since Tumble posted:
On August 07 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote: disfo trying to read into Damdred's joke is a red flag to me. doesn't read as tryhard and I know he is a decent player. I am still on the lookout for an action from him that makes it town though.
On August 07 2016 13:07 Damdred wrote: Honestly was just busy tonight but I'm here for a bit.
I can live with a disf pressure today see where it goes but we will see.
GB could potentially be my friend.
I'M YOUR FRAND!
Trust me, disformation is mafia.
ooh what about GB pushing disfo mislynch meh probably not
How's it a mislynch again?
Glowing bear sees it too, Townie points and Tumble prob answer GB so
On August 07 2016 20:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Here's how we random lynch.
Every player gets an equal range of numbers from 0 to 59. 60/nPlayers will be the range. It will go by the order of the player list. So if 60/nPlayers was 5, the first player on the player list would get 0 to 4.
Then we look at the time stamp of a host's next post. The seconds will dictate which player gets lynched.
So if Onegu posts at 13:10:02, then the first player on the player list gets lynched. If he posts at 13:10:58, then the last player gets lynched.
Alright, 100% sure that what ever is holy in this universe just loves to screw me over with storms.
Anyways, I got a hour or two rn, and later I will have more later in the day (7 oclock here).
No matter what though, I forgot this is majority. We need to consistence sometime in the next 5 hours or so, so that we don't end up like we did in Onegu part 1's lynch.
On August 08 2016 02:34 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: This is like the 20th game in a row I've rolled town.
Brah I haven't rolled scum since April(?), and have rolled doc twice.
So obv we are both scum.
Scum Team: nnn_theKushmountains, Shapelog, ?????
I am too lazy to look in the mafia QT to see who our third mafia member is. Prob damdred knowing his mafia luck.
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
Panicy Kush is Panicy
Also, on this site, you haven't got ML expect in 72 hours. Brav. ended early, and you were Mason in part 1. And besides, we are scum remember? It is a Lynch!
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
This is incredibly scummy. This guy spends the last 20 games as town not giving a shit whether he gets mislynched. This game he gets questioned on some simple point and responds with what could only be described as verbal diarrhea. I'm not buying it.
On August 07 2016 13:07 Damdred wrote: Honestly was just busy tonight but I'm here for a bit.
I can live with a disf pressure today see where it goes but we will see.
GB could potentially be my friend.
I'M YOUR FRAND!
Trust me, disformation is mafia.
ooh what about GB pushing disfo mislynch meh probably not
How's it a mislynch again?
I think you skipped this tumble GB might want an answer.
As for the RNG Lynch really shouldn't, while d1 lynches are more miss than hit the gathered informTion is more valuable than something people don't have to really take a stand on. Probably not scummy for sl though the other two hrmmm maybe.
oh yeah in case you were wondering GB, it wasn't a mislynch but more so suspicion. pretty bad read though and I do not stand by it.
From what I make out of this post, No longer believes in the read he had on Dis. And he finds his reasoning bad, which was this:
On August 07 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote: disfo trying to read into Damdred's joke is a red flag to me. doesn't read as tryhard and I know he is a decent player. I am still on the lookout for an action from him that makes it town though.
And lets assume Tumble's ML comment was indeed meant, I have sus. but not enough to be sure. So this means two things:
First, Tumble doesn't find the tonal thing at the beginning of the game scummy any more. Meaning if he flip flops in the next few pages, or what not, I and you (the reader, including you tumble) should be sus. I would say, he should also be against the tonal reads on Dis now, but it is Day 1 (and that post was early in Day 1 as well), and he never stated he had a Town read on dis.
Second, and this is only if Dis does flip scum, Tumble could be more scummy, due to him backing away from the notation Dis was scum around the time Kush looked sus. A course, Kush needs to be town in this case as well, unless mafia is the three of them, and they are just doing me and busing the shit out of each other.
From what I now make out of his post, I realized that the sus. he is talking about is about GB, and not dis. and that he didn't change the read on dis, but on GB. Would like to know the bad read though.
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
On August 08 2016 03:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
Good one. You got me. Vote stands.
How about if I said I was being too scummy to be scum.
No no no! You suck at being scum! ... Maybe I really do have to check the mafia QT and coach you on BS excuses to why you are not scum. FFS.
On August 08 2016 03:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:06 Tumblewood wrote: and I'm here on the sidelines saying "grack and kush are not scum together"
That means you shouldn't vote for me, according to Bayes theorem. I am statistically a bad lynch.
Lol, So much math,
On August 08 2016 03:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: <a href="/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25925102" class="submessage" title="August 07 2016 14:17 EDT"><span class="post_date">1 minute ago</span> <span class="post_time"><!--post time needed here--></span></a> So our number is 17.
So little Usefulness. (also conveniently lands on Dis rofl)
Also, RNG lynchs instead of P-Lynches? Jezz I thought my mafia tell was bad rofl. + Show Spoiler +
But seriously, were are thou P-lynches?
On August 08 2016 04:46 Vivax wrote: Did a quick ctrl-f of my name, no results so far.
Is the theory that only scum would try to deflect attention to me being afk for 1 half of D1 a shit theory or a good theory? With the caveat that they'd have to be under pressure to do so, so is it safe to assume no scum so far was under pressure? Or only scum that doesn't know my meta?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Narcissistic Narcissist!
But really, this was just randomly thrown out there.
On August 07 2016 23:51 GlowingBear wrote: Town Damdred
Mafia Disformation
Step up people.
two posts later. WEAK REMEMBER YOUR SHIT READS
Hahahaha, Kinda just want to Town lean you SL for making me laugh. "Vivax's and SL posts talking about players at the end of Page 11."
Like them both there. Vivax feels like the same as we was when we played in Brav and part 1, and SL is actually doing something!
Which might be something!
On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote: I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.
In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).
Damdred 100% sad because he is in a team with me and kush.
On August 08 2016 03:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: <a href="/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25925102" class="submessage" title="August 07 2016 14:17 EDT"><span class="post_date">1 minute ago</span> <span class="post_time"><!--post time needed here--></span></a> So our number is 17.
On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote: I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.
In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).
Isn't sad Damdred town Damdred, according to Art's flowchart?
Well Fuck RNGJesus, He has screwed me over multiple times, and owes me money.
On August 08 2016 05:28 Damdred wrote: I was first poster so always confirmed town dont' forget that disf.
But on a serious note i kind of want to go back on my grac townread somewhat, he is kind of missing the punch that I saw in some of his town games and kind of just along for the ride. Not sure if its a scum read yet but not comfortable town reading him at this point. Also the strange fight with kush just idk strange.
GB I like the thought process I see, but idk can't really tell, i sort of want to go town but want to see more opinons.
At least I still have my tumble townread, an dno wi want to townread vivax.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
I was first poster so always confirmed town dont' forget that disf.
But on a serious note i kind of want to go back on my grac townread somewhat, he is kind of missing the punch that I saw in some of his town games and kind of just along for the ride. Not sure if its a scum read yet but not comfortable town reading him at this point. Also the strange fight with kush just idk strange.
Hmm,
Personally, I see nothing wrong with what Grack did in the fight, IE. I can see myself making some of those posts (mostly though because I enjoy screwing with Kush) I might go back later (well I will sense he is one of the 2 wagons) and double check because mostly I was focused on Kush's posts.
I can see Kush also being either alignment there, even though I get scummy feels off of his posts. Mostly because he posts like that often. Minus the RNG lynching and Math stuff. If he is mafia, that is a very weird tell rofl.
GB I like the thought process I see, but idk can't really tell, i sort of want to go town but want to see more opinons
Wow, I am tired. I thought that said Options until I went to B Tag it.
I personally like GB enough to give him some townie points as of reaching this post. His early posts I liked, and we shared the same noticed with the ML post from tumble. Meta wise I suck with GB (aka, I think they play alike) so i cannot gather there.
Overall I think he deserves not to be lynched D1 unless he does something scummy.
At least I still have my tumble townread, an dno wi want to townread vivax.
Personally, again, I have vivax with some townie points due to how he was posting up to this post. Tumble, I have sus. but nothing hard against that can prove anything either way. Why are you town Reading him again ( I would look it up but to lazy + about to go)?
On August 08 2016 05:33 Damdred wrote: could lynch shapelog though, like lynch him with fire fo rnot saying something good by now
I could lynch you, due to being dumb enough to say that people who post first are confirm town. Also, I have a Life, let me tell you.
It started almost 25 years ago. I grew up with my dad and my mom. My dad was a jack of all trades, merchant marine, dumptruck driver, security guard, Cook, Von. firefighter (mom was too), etc. My mom was a adviser to some business.
And to make a long story short, I am 24 (25 in 7 days) years old, have a GF, and the first of my family (out of my brothers and sisters) to go to college full time.
On August 08 2016 02:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: @damdred about rng lynches. it's done for the lols not for the wins. Kind of sad that you actually felt the need to point out that rng lynches are suboptimal.
@hf nice catch on that lunaticman post. When I read it, I kinda thought he always opens like that half roleplaying like? Still I agree with you that the post is suspect.
@onegu the filters link to liquiddota... FIX IT...
Why is it sad that I have to point out something is suboptimal when there is are people who actually want to do it. Its sad that it is even brought up in the first place
if an rng day 1 lynch is sub optimal its not by much. acualy statistically its just as good as a day one lynch. the only thing that sucks about it is you have less to go on in day 2.
I really hope nobody was being serious about an rng lynch. rng lynching is always bad even if it statistically has about the same chance of lynching scum.
Don't really like damdred getting so serious about this topic.
*ignores Kush, who was the person who suggested it, made a fucking equation, and picked the top wagon at the time for lynching*
You know what, Fuck this, Just going to read sliently and not post every thought and make a grand post in 15 mins.
On August 08 2016 20:26 Shapelog wrote: Alright, 100% sure that what ever is holy in this universe just loves to screw me over with storms.
Anyways, I got a hour or two rn, and later I will have more later in the day (7 oclock here).
No matter what though, I forgot this is majority. We need to consistence sometime in the next 5 hours or so, so that we don't end up like we did in Onegu part 1's lynch.
Yes, I quite agree. Unfortunately I have no clue who you gonna vote for. Not even your if your scumreads on damdy and kush are jokes or not. What do you think of the points on Grack? What do you think of the points on Luna? Shape's first long post: + Show Spoiler +
On August 08 2016 20:58 Shapelog wrote: Page 10 Thoughts
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
Panicy Kush is Panicy
Also, on this site, you haven't got ML expect in 72 hours. Brav. ended early, and you were Mason in part 1. And besides, we are scum remember? It is a Lynch!
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
This is incredibly scummy. This guy spends the last 20 games as town not giving a shit whether he gets mislynched. This game he gets questioned on some simple point and responds with what could only be described as verbal diarrhea. I'm not buying it.
On August 07 2016 13:07 Damdred wrote: Honestly was just busy tonight but I'm here for a bit.
I can live with a disf pressure today see where it goes but we will see.
GB could potentially be my friend.
I'M YOUR FRAND!
Trust me, disformation is mafia.
ooh what about GB pushing disfo mislynch meh probably not
How's it a mislynch again?
I think you skipped this tumble GB might want an answer.
As for the RNG Lynch really shouldn't, while d1 lynches are more miss than hit the gathered informTion is more valuable than something people don't have to really take a stand on. Probably not scummy for sl though the other two hrmmm maybe.
oh yeah in case you were wondering GB, it wasn't a mislynch but more so suspicion. pretty bad read though and I do not stand by it.
From what I make out of this post, No longer believes in the read he had on Dis. And he finds his reasoning bad, which was this:
On August 07 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote: disfo trying to read into Damdred's joke is a red flag to me. doesn't read as tryhard and I know he is a decent player. I am still on the lookout for an action from him that makes it town though.
And lets assume Tumble's ML comment was indeed meant, I have sus. but not enough to be sure. So this means two things:
First, Tumble doesn't find the tonal thing at the beginning of the game scummy any more. Meaning if he flip flops in the next few pages, or what not, I and you (the reader, including you tumble) should be sus. I would say, he should also be against the tonal reads on Dis now, but it is Day 1 (and that post was early in Day 1 as well), and he never stated he had a Town read on dis.
Second, and this is only if Dis does flip scum, Tumble could be more scummy, due to him backing away from the notation Dis was scum around the time Kush looked sus. A course, Kush needs to be town in this case as well, unless mafia is the three of them, and they are just doing me and busing the shit out of each other.
From what I now make out of his post, I realized that the sus. he is talking about is about GB, and not dis. and that he didn't change the read on dis, but on GB. Would like to know the bad read though.
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
On August 08 2016 03:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:11 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
Good one. You got me. Vote stands.
How about if I said I was being too scummy to be scum.
No no no! You suck at being scum! ... Maybe I really do have to check the mafia QT and coach you on BS excuses to why you are not scum. FFS.
On August 08 2016 03:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: <a href="/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25925102" class="submessage" title="August 07 2016 14:17 EDT"><span class="post_date">1 minute ago</span> <span class="post_time"><!--post time needed here--></span></a> So our number is 17.
On August 08 2016 04:46 Vivax wrote: Did a quick ctrl-f of my name, no results so far.
Is the theory that only scum would try to deflect attention to me being afk for 1 half of D1 a shit theory or a good theory? With the caveat that they'd have to be under pressure to do so, so is it safe to assume no scum so far was under pressure? Or only scum that doesn't know my meta?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Narcissistic Narcissist!
But really, this was just randomly thrown out there.
On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote: I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.
In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).
Damdred 100% sad because he is in a team with me and kush.
Also, I know sadness/Emo Damdred = town, but fuck cell mafia. Then again, I did caught you in cell, but not anywhere else so....
At least he is no friend of RNGesus. Cause friends of RNGesus are apparently no friends of mine. Also agree with/like the point on SL. (Read: SL is a TR) Anyone got meta on Shape?
Also how do you, out of all the people who have scum read me every game you watched, not have meta on me?
Actually no, Damdred posted something I want to respond to first.
On August 09 2016 00:00 Damdred wrote: I don't understand where shapes anger is coming from especially about a long running joke about first post being confirmed town. Idk why he's angry at me.
Anyway I don't want to Lynch disf or grac (today).
I could be up for a Kush Lynch or maybe mderg.
Lol, I am not mad at you rofl. I found it funny that you said that, because of the long running joke (and I broke it once as scum so it makes me giggle more.) And I was pulling your leg with the Life story rofl.
No, If I was angry at you, it be like:
"F*** You Dammy Boy! You useless Crap, overflowing out of your mouth, is just shit." Or "HAUSUIDASUIGDUIASGDUIAGSIUDGAS DAMMDRED!" Or "Insert Gif here"
On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote: I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.
I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour.
I don't particularly like how vague this is on Damdred and GB. Is there anything particular about their posts or is it just about the amount of content which imo is a pretty useless point to make.
I was actually reading thru his filter and thinking the same thing rofl. Minus the bold (since hes talking about their posting style.)
I mean, I can kinda GB (Later I share why.) But Damdred's play is kinda odd. Not only that, but honestly both me and vivax (two people who were somewhat Town read) did, let's be honest, very little. Vivax made a few posts, and so did I. So i am more interested into why Those two didn't pop out to him.
Also, the top part of that post:
I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.
Feels like he conflicted more then he wants to say.
Also, I remember this post when I get to your read on my post. I like it, though:
On August 08 2016 05:35 disformation wrote: I think with Vivax posting something earlier, Shape is now the only one who hasn't posted at all, right?
You didn't play my Ritual Card.
On August 08 2016 05:39 mderg wrote:
On August 08 2016 04:53 sicklucker wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:05 Damdred wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: @damdred about rng lynches. it's done for the lols not for the wins. Kind of sad that you actually felt the need to point out that rng lynches are suboptimal.
@hf nice catch on that lunaticman post. When I read it, I kinda thought he always opens like that half roleplaying like? Still I agree with you that the post is suspect.
@onegu the filters link to liquiddota... FIX IT...
Why is it sad that I have to point out something is suboptimal when there is are people who actually want to do it. Its sad that it is even brought up in the first place
if an rng day 1 lynch is sub optimal its not by much. acualy statistically its just as good as a day one lynch. the only thing that sucks about it is you have less to go on in day 2.
I really hope nobody was being serious about an rng lynch. rng lynching is always bad even if it statistically has about the same chance of lynching scum.
Don't really like damdred getting so serious about this topic.
*ignores Kush, who was the person who suggested it, made a fucking equation, and picked the top wagon at the time for lynching*
You know what, Fuck this, Just going to read sliently and not post every thought and make a grand post in 15 mins.
I was fairly confident that you wouldn't make an equation like that, if you were being serious about random lynching. Maybe I was just wrong and people took this whole random lynch thing more seriously than I thought.
I was talking about Kush's equation lol. I just posted a Gif.
4 more people to la a filter. 4 more people to bang my heaaaad against. la la la la faaa la! 4 more people to filter, I hoooope their filters are just pure shit. That way I can make them scum, and be doooone with it. Why the fuck did i do filtering day 1, And who the fuck is that ringing. I Bet it is the host oh ost with a warning about my poost a tost. Oh I bet it is the hostooost, citating me about the 4 people. Oh I bet it is the host, Beating me over the 4 peoples.
On August 08 2016 22:23 disformation wrote: SHAPE! I command you to be easier to read!
On August 08 2016 20:26 Shapelog wrote: Alright, 100% sure that what ever is holy in this universe just loves to screw me over with storms.
Anyways, I got a hour or two rn, and later I will have more later in the day (7 oclock here).
No matter what though, I forgot this is majority. We need to consistence sometime in the next 5 hours or so, so that we don't end up like we did in Onegu part 1's lynch.
Yes, I quite agree. Unfortunately I have no clue who you gonna vote for. Not even your if your scumreads on damdy and kush are jokes or not. What do you think of the points on Grack? What do you think of the points on Luna? Shape's first long post: + Show Spoiler +
On August 08 2016 20:58 Shapelog wrote: Page 10 Thoughts
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
Panicy Kush is Panicy
Also, on this site, you haven't got ML expect in 72 hours. Brav. ended early, and you were Mason in part 1. And besides, we are scum remember? It is a Lynch!
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
This is incredibly scummy. This guy spends the last 20 games as town not giving a shit whether he gets mislynched. This game he gets questioned on some simple point and responds with what could only be described as verbal diarrhea. I'm not buying it.
On August 07 2016 13:07 Damdred wrote: Honestly was just busy tonight but I'm here for a bit.
I can live with a disf pressure today see where it goes but we will see.
GB could potentially be my friend.
I'M YOUR FRAND!
Trust me, disformation is mafia.
ooh what about GB pushing disfo mislynch meh probably not
How's it a mislynch again?
I think you skipped this tumble GB might want an answer.
As for the RNG Lynch really shouldn't, while d1 lynches are more miss than hit the gathered informTion is more valuable than something people don't have to really take a stand on. Probably not scummy for sl though the other two hrmmm maybe.
oh yeah in case you were wondering GB, it wasn't a mislynch but more so suspicion. pretty bad read though and I do not stand by it.
From what I make out of this post, No longer believes in the read he had on Dis. And he finds his reasoning bad, which was this:
On August 07 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote: disfo trying to read into Damdred's joke is a red flag to me. doesn't read as tryhard and I know he is a decent player. I am still on the lookout for an action from him that makes it town though.
And lets assume Tumble's ML comment was indeed meant, I have sus. but not enough to be sure. So this means two things:
First, Tumble doesn't find the tonal thing at the beginning of the game scummy any more. Meaning if he flip flops in the next few pages, or what not, I and you (the reader, including you tumble) should be sus. I would say, he should also be against the tonal reads on Dis now, but it is Day 1 (and that post was early in Day 1 as well), and he never stated he had a Town read on dis.
Second, and this is only if Dis does flip scum, Tumble could be more scummy, due to him backing away from the notation Dis was scum around the time Kush looked sus. A course, Kush needs to be town in this case as well, unless mafia is the three of them, and they are just doing me and busing the shit out of each other.
From what I now make out of his post, I realized that the sus. he is talking about is about GB, and not dis. and that he didn't change the read on dis, but on GB. Would like to know the bad read though.
As I understood Tumble meant this read:
On August 07 2016 13:14 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 07 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2016 13:07 Damdred wrote: Honestly was just busy tonight but I'm here for a bit.
I can live with a disf pressure today see where it goes but we will see.
GB could potentially be my friend.
I'M YOUR FRAND!
Trust me, disformation is mafia.
ooh what about GB pushing disfo mislynch meh probably not
Also: Confused Shape dis confounds completely. Shape's second really long post: + Show Spoiler +
On August 08 2016 21:33 Shapelog wrote: Page 1--All screw it I just make a mega post.
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
On August 08 2016 03:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:11 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia? So How was my response anything but true?
No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.
Good one. You got me. Vote stands.
How about if I said I was being too scummy to be scum.
No no no! You suck at being scum! ... Maybe I really do have to check the mafia QT and coach you on BS excuses to why you are not scum. FFS.
On August 08 2016 03:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: <a href="/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25925102" class="submessage" title="August 07 2016 14:17 EDT"><span class="post_date">1 minute ago</span> <span class="post_time"><!--post time needed here--></span></a> So our number is 17.
On August 08 2016 04:46 Vivax wrote: Did a quick ctrl-f of my name, no results so far.
Is the theory that only scum would try to deflect attention to me being afk for 1 half of D1 a shit theory or a good theory? With the caveat that they'd have to be under pressure to do so, so is it safe to assume no scum so far was under pressure? Or only scum that doesn't know my meta?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Narcissistic Narcissist!
But really, this was just randomly thrown out there.
On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote: I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.
In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).
Damdred 100% sad because he is in a team with me and kush.
Also, I know sadness/Emo Damdred = town, but fuck cell mafia. Then again, I did caught you in cell, but not anywhere else so....
At least he is no friend of RNGesus. Cause friends of RNGesus are apparently no friends of mine. Also agree with/like the point on SL. (Read: SL is a TR) Anyone got meta on Shape?
Also how do you, out of all the people who have scum read me every game you watched, not have meta on me?
And I am going to do a Read post after this post.
Eh, we haven't played together yet and I don't read most games closely, when I am #obswarrioring. Also remember the part where I basically scumread you 100% of the time, when i was #obswarrioring? =p Well there was one recently, where you were kinda obv town. Maybe I should go back and compare that game to this, but I don't think you are a good lynch today.
Lol, I miss the days I was so bad at this game, that I was actually in jeopardy of getting lynched.
I mean, it won't hurt to go back to do that. I think you called me town once for 5 mins that game, then flip flop back to scum ville for me.
On August 09 2016 03:22 Shapelog wrote: I was talking about Kush's equation lol. I just posted a Gif.
I was also talking about kush. I guess the "you" was a bit misleading. Seeing that kush hasn't done anything since then makes me a bit uncomfortable.
I actually talked about this in the report.
Short story: Kush has a new job which makes his mafia time less. Therefore, I would look at his posts, and not the activity. Plus it is almost 4 PM, and I am pretty sure he gets off at either 5 or 6 PM, IIRC from Brav.
Hello and Welcome back! My name is John Shapelog, and as always, I am posting non-stop, to give you the most up to date info in Shapeville! Tonight, we start with a remembrance, of a time on TL Mafia, where the page count past 20 pages in the first RL Day. It was a, [qoute] on [qoute] time of prosperity, and envy. As Which was once said for Waffle houses. So, like a Greasey, Hair filled Waffle at the House, I going to give you Herps and your morning Joe.
Reads:
Town:
None, Fucking townies need to be better at being town. Like meh.
Town lean: HolyFlareGun Batman! Like him overall. Damdred said he was scary a long time ago in wonderful obs. Hf not scary man.
Overall, I like his pushing, his tone, content, how he looks at things etc. and I can see the town mindset. I might actually put him up higher, if it wasn't for the scary tales I was told. If luntic flips scum, he is def. going up there tho. That and, he is a bit too focused on Lunatic (kinda like Rsoul in devil on me) for my taste buds. Grackaren: I liked his approach to Kush, he keep pushing who he thought was sus. (Kush), and I like some of his reads. He also has done a good chunk more then others, and I wouldn't consider him for a Day 1 lynch rn.
I really like his Day 1 posts.
The only thing I got to add, is that he seems a little bit focus on survival (see posts #363 and #334) Which is something I suspect a mafia to be like. He was, tbf, close to the top lead, but doesn't moot the point entirely. I def. will revist him during the night post, or D2 if I am alive (lol) Disinformation (weakish): If it wasn't for his intro, i might of removed the Weakish part of this. I still have problems with it. However, he has posted the most, a good number of his posts now are decent, and his tone seems to be better. With time, I might just chalk the weakish tag up. Plus the Luna logic.
Surprisingly, He town read me. Which is just... Wow. Damdred (Weak): It is so tempting to just auto place you in the mafia box, due to the last to games. Just....... So...... Tempting......
Eh, you been fine overall, and placing you in null for past game rolls seems dumb to me. So instead I'll put you as a weak town lean.
Ok? Ok sweetie. Null (no order): VIvax: (No D1 lynch) Honestly Like his posting overall, and wished he just did a bit more. I find the posts good in content, and nothing stands out to me. Def. not lynching Day 1. Will wait though to place him higher tho. Glowing Bear: (Not D1 lynch): I liked the posts I read from GB from the earlier part of the game. It felt natural in a way, and I even came to some of the same conclusions he did. My problem is, is that he kinda has fallen flat towards the end of the cycle. And it worries me because mafia tends to slack, when they get Town points.
That said, GB isn't in my pool for a D1 lynch though. If he keeps up with the last point, I will be considering him for a Day 2 lynch, unless he makes a really good content post to balance the activity out. Sutters: Ehhhhh, Here's my thing.
On August 07 2016 12:28 Stutters695 wrote: Lynch all stutters. Discuss.
He posts this, which is kinda a weird thing for a mafia person to post. Mainly because Stutters prob. knew that he wasn't going to be on much after. Meaning, if anything actually came up, he wouldn't be able to defend it as scum, and more importantly, the post itself kinda IMO doesn't show a desire to survive.
Kush vote is Meh. Not because it is bad, hell, if It wasn't for the fact that I find Kush scummy 96% (hehe) of the time, but because it kinda is what I expect mafia to be.
I would like A) more from him, and B) others opinions on the Top part, before I move him up or down. SaltShaker:
Do I have to read him mommy? I do? Producer? I do? FFS,,,,
Ok, SL is being cocky, actually posting, and his some of his reads are beyond my understanding. Maybe the Posting point actually makes him scum since Ik...I very fucking know, he doesn't post D1 as town (unless I misremembered from his rants)
Cocky Sl is normal SL.
Not enough honestly to put him lower IMO. Me'Derg:
His filter is pretty meh, but he is here, and I really liked that one post about lunatic. Other then that, eh nothing that actually makes me think either way. Its very....Generic. D2(if I live)/N1 I prob. will poke him and get emoticons out of him.
Mafia Leans Lunatic: Kinda agree with the points made against him with the intro. Already explain why I didn't like this:
On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote: I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.
I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour.
Activity: Want more, but at the end of the day, could be busy, and content = read. Reads: Grac I can maybe understand. Kush read seems conflicted. Other points:
-On, but, doesn't really try to push town. I feel even with (if it is the case) limited time, he could be making better posts that actually pushed town a bit. Or weren't just either General knowledge or....
-180 on Grack read. Went from he is scum to first lynch is town, so Grack = town.
Summary: I find him scummy for these points. Verdict: Death by Tumble: Maybe should be in the town lean place. Some flip flopping of reads, but they same natural if that makes sense. I had grievances about the ML post, but I was wrong about it (at least about it being about dis.).
On August 08 2016 12:43 Holyflare wrote: I would like you to because it's of grave importance.... for you.
lmao my scum meta is bad enough that I get to be snap when I want as town, which is fortunate, because that's most of the time.
I might honestly be giving Tumble too much credit from scum meta too... No. he actually should be in a weak scum lean over the Dis read.
On August 07 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote: disfo trying to read into Damdred's joke is a red flag to me. doesn't read as tryhard and I know he is a decent player. I am still on the lookout for an action from him that makes it town though.
This is the read at the start. Fine. Everyone else said the same thing.
On August 08 2016 09:59 Tumblewood wrote: holyflare is possibly town though. I don't know his town meta really so I will read up on that soon™. one of disfo and grack is scum (just one) and yes I am confident in this and no I will not explain my feels.
Read the bold. Plus, the bold is kinda what i associate scum doing. It allows them to continue pressuring people, without reasoning.
On August 08 2016 13:09 GlowingBear wrote: HF, is disformation Mafia?
why are you asking HF
Why wouldn't I?
is this how it feels to talk to me
HAHAHAHAHA I don't get it but it was funny anyway.
I am just interested in his opinion. That's all. And you? Do you think disformation is mafis?
I don't have a strong reason to think he's not, but at the same time I'm not convinced he is.
Which is a lie. He really does a reason (that we do no know) for 1 of Grack/Dis to be scum. Yet, he tells GB he isn't convinced enough ,which goes against "and yes I am confident" part of the second post. I find it odd that he basically said he was confident in 1 of them being scum, yet, when asked about it, Tumble just basically called dis Nulled. This is made worst since we do not know the reasoning for the second post as well other then feelings. Mafia Kush: * Disclaimer, I find Kush scummy almost all the time at the start of the game, or even when he is obv town in MLYO and he is just so Tasty and...Point being, Take everything with a pinch of salt. I am like a racist Kush person till I either get convinced or he dies. I hate everything he has posted.
Everything.
I honestly could write a 1 page paper on why I hate his play right now so much. First thing is first:
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy. Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.
Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.
Yes, we all know why we don't like this post. But I more to hate from it. Now, I know Kush plays on OMGUS (or he did), but on TL, the only game he has recently played and gotten ML in was in 72 hours (D1). Meaning, this isn't really true (unless Kush wants to link the OMGUS/othersite games he is talking about.)
So I find it kinda BS right now, in addition to why everyone else doesn't really like it.
Next, the RNG Vote:
On August 08 2016 03:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: <a href="/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25925102" class="submessage" title="August 07 2016 14:17 EDT"><span class="post_date">1 minute ago</span> <span class="post_time"><!--post time needed here--></span></a> So our number is 17.
Somehow, the "RNG Vote" lands on the person who has the most votes at that time. Yeah...Why am I not buying it? I mean honestly, this just...is lazy hiding.
Also, i have just a big problem of the idea that Kush (even thou I guess this doesn't make him scum) is picking RNG lynches over Plynching.
Third point, Lunatic Frigle XXX:
On August 08 2016 02:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: @damdred about rng lynches. it's done for the lols not for the wins. Kind of sad that you actually felt the need to point out that rng lynches are suboptimal.
@hf nice catch on that lunaticman post. When I read it, I kinda thought he always opens like that half roleplaying like? Still I agree with you that the post is suspect.
@onegu the filters link to liquiddota... FIX IT...
On August 08 2016 02:22 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Also Hf I saw it coming not because of the role play thing butt because of the rest of it. My line of reasoning doesn't totally makes sense. But now that you found that he didn't reply like that beginning of his games that part it's scummy too. Oh God at first I was just trying to bother you now I'm digging the hole deeper and deeper for myself X over Defender.
On August 08 2016 02:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: @damdred about rng lynches. it's done for the lols not for the wins. Kind of sad that you actually felt the need to point out that rng lynches are suboptimal.
@hf nice catch on that lunaticman post. When I read it, I kinda thought he always opens like that half roleplaying like? Still I agree with you that the post is suspect.
@onegu the filters link to liquiddota... FIX IT...
Uh, what? He always opens like that but it's suspicious?
I only just checked his last game where he was town and he didn't open like that so it's pretty weird that you've phrased it like this at all.
I was giving the reason why I didn't initially see the post as scummy. And I can't speak to the validity of that reason
On August 08 2016 02:48 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 15:46 Lunaticman wrote: So I dont really have time to post much until the deadline, Why is all the activity goig on while Im sleeping...
Ohh well be back a bit later to vote!
townreading lunatic for this post.
He also has flipped the read on Lunatic from sus. to TR. Its too early honestly for Scum team is X/X/X, but i just find it weird that he is spending a lot of time debating/talking about Lunatic. I mean, really no one else really seems to be his focus (other then Grack?) now then Him.
About activity, I won't hold it against him. Ik he has a new job that takes more hours then before. But the content he has posted is just. #NotmyTownirst
And guess what? Your not going to get Mislynch this game! Why? Cuz ur scum!
Summary: Vote:nnnkushmountains I want Kush/Tumble/Lunatic or any null without the do not lynch tag in the preference of SL/Me'derg with Stutters depending on what you guys think of him with the point i made.
On August 09 2016 03:16 disformation wrote: Oh wow. SL, kush, tumble and luna were all in 72h with scum!grack. Any comments on meta/feels if you haven't already? luna, sl, kush were town and tumble also scum that game btw.
following his meta to a T. excuses complaining not doing anything
On August 09 2016 03:16 disformation wrote: Oh wow. SL, kush, tumble and luna were all in 72h with scum!grack. Any comments on meta/feels if you haven't already? luna, sl, kush were town and tumble also scum that game btw.
following his meta to a T. excuses complaining not doing anything
On August 09 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: I do not really like the looks of that vote count. prolly should try to take another look at kush.
@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?
I can see where you're coming from with the luna lynch. His filter is meh and I can see myself consolidating on him, if needed to make a lynch happen.
Not much to say about grack, he has kind of shown a defeatist attitude and then disappeared. So my view of him hasn't really changed, still my preferred lynch.
On August 09 2016 05:10 Shapelog wrote: Also, What do you guys think about the stutter point I brought up?
Stutters is a huge coin flip imo and your point a bit wifomy, isnt it? But yeah I guess it is sliiightly more towny? On the other hand his filter doesnt support a huge bunch of towniness? Hope he steps up.
On August 09 2016 05:10 Shapelog wrote: Also, What do you guys think about the stutter point I brought up?
Very null I think. I'm pretty sure I've done something similar as town and I think mafia also. CBA to actually check atm.
Lol, well that was a good survey lol.
Well at least I don't have to move him rofl.
also, can we please all get on a actual lynching wagon? It is currently 3-3-2-2, and even though the top two wagons are town reads of mine, i value a lynch more at this point.
On August 09 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: I do not really like the looks of that vote count. prolly should try to take another look at kush.
@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?
I can see where you're coming from with the luna lynch. His filter is meh and I can see myself consolidating on him, if needed to make a lynch happen.
Not much to say about grack, he has kind of shown a defeatist attitude and then disappeared. So my view of him hasn't really changed, still my preferred lynch.
What do you then make of my read on him?
You're right about the amount of content pointing more towards town and I guess he did push kush quite a lot without it looking like he'd be successful. Fuck it, you're right, he's not a good lynch with the amount of content he's produced.
On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote: I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.
I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour.
This Lunatic post is a post that I think would draw a lot of unwarranted suspicion just from disagreeing with the current lynch targets and proposing people not currently being suspected while also avoiding the most useless people. I think it's more likely to be his actual way of reading the game than mafia play.
Also Glowingbear's continued push on Disinfo reads a bit red to me just because he didn't comment on anything at all that's happened since he was last here and Disinfo has been posting quite a bit since he was gone.
Kush is definitely my favorite lynch of the bunch right now.
Finally someone that understands that not EVERY PLAYER IN MAFIA. Uses logical deduction skills first to find contradictions etc. Hunches is a thing people.
Lol, I don't either XD. I just say what ever is off the top of my head, and get the sweet rush of success when i find out post game, I have 2-1 mafia right Day 1.
On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote: I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.
I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour.
This Lunatic post is a post that I think would draw a lot of unwarranted suspicion just from disagreeing with the current lynch targets and proposing people not currently being suspected while also avoiding the most useless people. I think it's more likely to be his actual way of reading the game than mafia play.
Also Glowingbear's continued push on Disinfo reads a bit red to me just because he didn't comment on anything at all that's happened since he was last here and Disinfo has been posting quite a bit since he was gone.
Kush is definitely my favorite lynch of the bunch right now.
Finally someone that understands that not EVERY PLAYER IN MAFIA. Uses logical deduction skills first to find contradictions etc. Hunches is a thing people.
Lol, I don't either XD. I just say what ever is off the top of my head, and get the sweet rush of success when i find out post game, I have 2-1 mafia right Day 1.
Yeah but you've got the super analysis coming out from the hosting QTs
For once I actually do have something planned for that.
Honestly though, I think Kush is going to flip mafia (lol, I have said this so many times). Lunatic is here at least now, and I wouldn't mind keeping him alive. Other option I like is tumble as well. Through, I would like him to at least comment on my post (I honestly wouldn't mind Kush either as well if he comes around).
Somehow, the "RNG Vote" lands on the person who has the most votes at that time. Yeah...Why am I not buying it? I mean honestly, this just...is lazy hiding.
wtf shape, you don't really mean this, right? this is one of those things we have 2 page discussions about and it's actually worth it because look at this shit.what are you accusing him of faking?
The Grammer is wrong on the bold to the point I cannot understand it rofl.
[u] I just find it hard honestly to believe that somehow, Kush's "RNG" landed on Dis, who was the most popular vote at the time.
And, even if I chalked that up to speculation. Kush seems reads as scum to me for his other posts.
On August 09 2016 05:47 disformation wrote: Right kush hasn't posted after rng'ing hsi vote on me? sticking to the rng vote like that seems more town... on the other hand he had the super shady exchange with grack...
oh wait looking at kushs filter again he also tred luna for a post nearly everyone else hated? this one:
On August 08 2016 19:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 15:46 Lunaticman wrote: So I dont really have time to post much until the deadline, Why is all the activity goig on while Im sleeping...
Ohh well be back a bit later to vote!
townreading lunatic for this post.
He never bothered to explain why though
If he rolled Mason again. ....
On August 09 2016 05:48 Lunaticman wrote: look at mderg*s voting pattern, he switches his vote way to many times without a reason.
2 times is to many?
On August 09 2016 05:49 Lunaticman wrote: I also don't like how damdred hasn't voted yet. Is there any reason for this?
Eh, not to soft defend, but he could be holding it to add to the largest wagon soon since it is majorty.
On August 09 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote: willing to whore my vote out to any wagon that can get 6 people. but strongly encouraging you to not make that wagon disfo, or luna (agree with sl point about how obvious he is/was as town).
Your willing to do what with your vote? I wouldn't force your Vote into that life style, when HF if I read the pregame right, is a Rep. for rape victims.
On August 09 2016 05:57 disformation wrote: Btw where the hell is vivax? Every vote counts here and I have not a single idea about who he is going to vote for or why.
I also feel it is strange that dis and Grac has changed their votes two times each.
Can I ask Why?
Both were the leading wagons, so voting for each other early on makes sense?
I don't think so, if you are town I probably am fine with sacrificing myself if I can get a 1 for one 1 trade. Unless you are sure the other player is mafia the vote wont really yield any information. It is better to place it on who you actually believe to be mafia. For the next day.
It is better to proc lame your innocence with words, or even go so far as to self vote. Showing that you do not fear death.
I understand the bold a bit, but...It was what? A few hours into the day cycle?
and about the [u], if the person who is against u is town. then wouldn't u sacrificing yourself be 2/0 if u were town.,...
I also feel it is strange that dis and Grac has changed their votes two times each.
Can I ask Why?
Both were the leading wagons, so voting for each other early on makes sense?
I don't think so, if you are town I probably am fine with sacrificing myself if I can get a 1 for one 1 trade. Unless you are sure the other player is mafia the vote wont really yield any information. It is better to place it on who you actually believe to be mafia. For the next day.
It is better to proc lame your innocence with words, or even go so far as to self vote. Showing that you do not fear death.
I understand the bold a bit, but...It was what? A few hours into the day cycle?
and about the [u], if the person who is against u is town. then wouldn't u sacrificing yourself be 2/0 if u were town.,...
I'm just saying what I would have done in that situation, it didn't even apply, I was speculating from my perspective. It doesn't really matter tbh.
On August 09 2016 06:30 Holyflare wrote: Yes pick glowingbear because anybody that reads his filter knows he is playing like shit and I don't believe he'd allow that as town GB.
Actually I liked his earlier posts.... And I seen GB be shit as either alignment.
Gb while I agree I dislike the play he is doing I also don't know if it's worth a lynch yet. I've seen him do this a few times as town and he matched my thought process at points and lives scum reading me as both alignments. So I am a little pocketed
are we reading different games??"?!??! shapelog and damdy!?!?!?!
where the hell has GB posted anything of substance?
On August 09 2016 06:55 Grackaroni wrote: Ok my wine is ready. I am ready for the incoming blame but at least I did not give HolyFlare the satisfaction.
On August 09 2016 07:23 Holyflare wrote: you mean saying I won't lynch anyone but GB and showing how full of shit the people on his wagon were wasn't good enough grack?
Oh really?
On August 09 2016 05:46 Holyflare wrote: Well I'm down for whatever lynches a person
On August 09 2016 07:59 Holyflare wrote: that obviously fucking changed you pleb
#plebking
Anyways,
What would me or damdred (since he seems to be in the same boat as me) changing votes done to get the GB lynch? we were already struggling for the last hour or so in the thread trying to decided on someone. Hell, we are lucky we had a lynch at the end, with how the wagons were near the end of day.
I mean I had reasons to vote Kush. I made them clear to the thread in my read post. Yes I am wrong rofl, thats mafia.
Somehow, the "RNG Vote" lands on the person who has the most votes at that time. Yeah...Why am I not buying it? I mean honestly, this just...is lazy hiding.
wtf shape, you don't really mean this, right? this is one of those things we have 2 page discussions about and it's actually worth it because look at this shit. what are you accusing him of faking?
And you never cleared what you are talking about with the bold either.
Eh, I read more into Tumbles actions Near EoD either a bit later tonight or in the morning (really really tired), Would like for him to look at the scum reasoning i have for him in the read post and just see what hes got to say. From what I read, Tumble did seem to look genuinely concerned of the events of EoD, regardless of the result.
On August 09 2016 10:39 Holyflare wrote: You know what makes me sad? It's that after all this time my good friend Damdred has ignored my wishes to kill GlowingBear who I read so well and regularly lynch when he's mafia to lynch some random kushm4sta. Where is his passion for this game gone? Why would he do such a boring lynch?
Damdred I'm not angry at you but just know that I am extremely disappointed, I will remember your actions for a long time.
I feel like my tyrannical reign of lynch making has come to an end of an era. I must reinstate myself as the top player on this site and continue my rule.
I think he hates you after you so rudely didn't reply to his buddy attempt filled posts.
He will remember. Telltale will make sure.
Also what are you balabbing about with this regin shit.
On August 09 2016 11:34 Grackaroni wrote: The shit post pressure was too much! AAAAH. Meh I think this one was shitty enough.
Makes a big deal about not wasting his 5000th post. Few hours later, wastes his 5000th post. #logic #feminism
On August 09 2016 12:49 GlowingBear wrote: Day1 lynxh on Kush was unwarranted. He didn't deserve the lynch. I've been working all day long, if I was here during the day I'd be highly against it
Lol, you were there (well you posted shortly before at the time) I posted the read post of mine.
On August 09 2016 17:11 disformation wrote: It is like you are refusing to take responsibility for your filter/past actions. Which screams scum to me.
The simple fact is it was obvious Kush wasn't mafia. I told you and I'll reiterate:
I voted on you like 20 hours before deadline because not voting is mafia indicative. I just refused to lynch a townie.
I'm the best looking townie in the game, there is nothing you can say about it.
If there is someone you should be pressuring it is damdred and Vix they look super scummy.
I also still think mafia tried to save you.
Yes, Disinformation/Damdred/Vix look very appealing.
How many fucking narcissists am I playing with?
HF/Lun/Damdred I think/Me etc.
[u]Part, How does that make sense as a team (honestly, we shouldn't be thinking of teams but)? If you think dis was saved via the rest of the scum team (in this case, Damdred and Vivax), then there should be more to it. Yet, one of your reasoning on why Damdred is scum is for holding his vote, and Vivax wasn't nearly here enough to save anyone. Hell, Damdred himself was against Dis out of the gate.
On August 09 2016 16:43 Lunaticman wrote: We could also lynch glowingbear just to see if mafia left one out of the train. Since we all know I'm town. It could be a good potshot.
How do we all know you're town? I don't see what would make you town over anybody else?
Lol, Doesn't take much to know where this went/is going.
On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote: I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.
In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).
The first cracks in the relationship began to form due to a lack of communication. Holyflare did not make it clear to Damdred that he was being heard and appreciated! And I'm afraid the pain of Holyflare's neglect left a void in Damdred. He began to have thoughts of another. An incredibly sexy individual who had shown his faithfulness before.
On August 07 2016 07:55 disformation wrote: Wait damdy, just to clarify:
On August 07 2016 07:39 Damdred wrote: Disformation most likely scrum in thread, grac is second and html is final scrum.
A strong Scum team,but easily solved.
Now I am well just working hard on the yard and waiting on interesting things in thread.
This was like 3mins after Gracks first post:
On August 07 2016 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 07 2016 06:54 Tumblewood wrote: confirmed town Grackaroni
probably town Grackaroni
null Not Grackaroni
I think this game I'm just going to edit everybody's quotes to match my own understanding of their message. Great post Tumbles!
You later TR Grack for this post. Did you just miss the post and throw him into the scum list for the lulz like HF?
I read it and generally thought hi tone was downy then and just wanted to have fun before getting serious. Ever since I've seen him lately I always have a high regard if him.
I admit it! It is true. My penetrating logic goes deep! But surely I did not beguile him with my posts this game. The responsibility, I do not bear! For it was he who surreptitiously ogled my play, and he sought out to do the deed. And now I'm afraid what comes next you cannot unsee!
On August 09 2016 06:36 Damdred wrote: Honestly here's where I stand, lunatics little suspicion on me is borderline cute. But I can probably see a newbie town fall into a narrative instead of a scum who's trying to survive. I still don't like the soft pushes with very little substance to back it up or a real push on who he wants to lynch. But I think it's enough for me not to want to kill him today and 're evaluate tonight tomorrow with a clear head and more information.
Gb while I agree I dislike the play he is doing I also don't know if it's worth a lynch yet. I've seen him do this a few times as town and he matched my thought process at points and lives scum reading me as both alignments. So I am a little pocketed.
All in all I think kush is the best lynch, we gain not Mich in the way of information but if you compare his last few town games he has done nothing like this in any. Even when he was super ark and for lynched he at least had some reads in the thread.
Anywya vote kush
Most heinous betrayal! Damdred has abandoned his steady, reliable relationship with Holyflare for another with more flare! I flashed my squirm case in front of him, and he ran away with me ignoring the pleas of the affronted Holyflare. Alas, it is true!
On August 09 2016 10:39 Holyflare wrote: You know what makes me sad? It's that after all this time my good friend Damdred has ignored my wishes to kill GlowingBear who I read so well and regularly lynch when he's mafia to lynch some random kushm4sta. Where is his passion for this game gone? Why would he do such a boring lynch?
Damdred I'm not angry at you but just know that I am extremely disappointed, I will remember your actions for a long time.
I feel like my tyrannical reign of lynch making has come to an end of an era. I must reinstate myself as the top player on this site and continue my rule.
After watching with horror, Holyflare vents his anger. How dare you abandon me at the sight of the slightest squirm! I am not mad. I am only disappointed!
On August 10 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote: Yes but now you have to say that you're going to follow me and lynch GB and nobody else tomorrow Damdred.
Finally, Holyflare reveals his controlling nature, which may have been the cause of Damdred's unfaithfulness from the start! I'm afraid the relationship is doomed.
On August 09 2016 16:57 disformation wrote: Good morning. As time progresses GB is wandering down towards the bottom of my list. Unwillingness to change ones reads is a good scum indicator in my experience. Not that he really has any reads besides me. Might be a bit biased therefore though.
I want to completely reread/reevaluate grack and luna.
@Luna: I still have no idea why you want to lynch me. Plus now you are saying that the other guy who wants to lynch me is a good shot? You are making very little sense to me. Also it is night time your current vote is invalid.
TBH Luna might just be one of those ppl I can't read for shit, but let me look at his filter later. Also not going the VCA at work, so you guys have to wait for this evening for that.
I don't think GB's unwillingness to change his reads points towards him being scum. It looked like he had a scumread on you for your opening and then didn't bother to play the game. That's fucking lazy and bad as either alignment.
On August 09 2016 16:57 disformation wrote: Good morning. As time progresses GB is wandering down towards the bottom of my list. Unwillingness to change ones reads is a good scum indicator in my experience. Not that he really has any reads besides me. Might be a bit biased therefore though.
I want to completely reread/reevaluate grack and luna.
@Luna: I still have no idea why you want to lynch me. Plus now you are saying that the other guy who wants to lynch me is a good shot? You are making very little sense to me. Also it is night time your current vote is invalid.
TBH Luna might just be one of those ppl I can't read for shit, but let me look at his filter later. Also not going the VCA at work, so you guys have to wait for this evening for that.
I don't think GB's unwillingness to change his reads points towards him being scum. It looked like he had a scumread on you for your opening and then didn't bother to play the game. That's fucking lazy and bad as either alignment.
Mderg tell me who is mafia.
I don't know but I for sure don't like your position in this game.
Lol, Lunatic reminded me about Me'derg.
I would really really love to hear any sus. you have on any players other than lunatic. You seem to had some earlier, and apparently decided that you would just state the lunatic, and no others.
If medic doesn't protect me I'm going to be really mad
The makes this sentence less threatening, therefore, I am adding a sin.
I don't know but I for sure don't like your position in this game.
you know I think your town because a mafia wouldn't say something so stupid.
Tell me what makes you not scum mister I didn't like the kush lynch therefore I'm town.
Yes it was more profound than that but "ok", if you want your entire filter to consist of why I am scum that's fine with me. I got a challenge for you. Post something that doesn't involve shading me and see what pops up.
Honestly your not worth my time.
I don't want to write anything that could get me into trouble, so I'll just say this condescending attitude of yours doesn't make me like you more.
You sound like Skynx 2.0, and you still didn't answer my question.
I mean if you don't want to scum hunt don't blame me for it.
How about you start explaining why you are town, so a stupid 3 year old like me can understand?
Why don't you give me a list of who you think is mafia besides me and reason, and I might explain it again.
"again"
I'm fairly confident there's a scum between Vivax/Stutters/GB just based of the fact that they didn't do shit. The wagons this game don't really give me the feeling of being scum driven with how much back and forth there was between them. That makes me think at least one scum has to be hiding in the not doing shit pile. I guess you could put sicklucker into the same pile but he somehow feels different. Like he just does whatever he wants and doesn't give a shit about how others see him (minus hf)
I still don't really like grack, after he cried about getting lynched and people leaving his wagon, he hasn't done jack shit. Like a scum feeling safe again and deciding to leave it at that. I get that his opening was very active and he boldly pushed a kush lynch quite a bit. But that's not too strange for scum to do.
The rest of the game is a bit of a mess. I don't ever want to lynch tumble. Also don't want to lynch shape. disfo had a strange opening but the rest of his game seemed fine to me. Damdred is disappointing but had like one post I really liked. Holyflare I didn't really like but his insane narcissism makes me lean towards town on him.
Eh,
So Me'derg likes Vivax/Stutters/GB for 1-2 scums and Grack I suppose for a 3rd. With lunatic somewhere. Vivax/Stutters/GB seems easy for anyone to jump on rn. Grack is a bit better of a read i suppose, but again, eh. Luanitc idk cause the thread is all over with opionons.
I guess what I am saying, is that nothing in these reads stands out, or jumps to me. They are all a bit, Generic...
I mean, the only read that I was impressed about was the 1 post about lunctic. Which reminds me I need to revise him (lunatic)
On August 10 2016 04:29 Lunaticman wrote: I tried reading the front page about the role setup, all it says is no abnormal roles. That doesn't mean anything to me. What are the possible roles in the game?
Just basic stuff like cop/medic/godfather/framer/jailkeeper/vigilante I presume? Can check other normal games and see some roles.
Masons too (part 1)
And roles can be mutishot, 1 shot, 2 shot etc. if the first part is also to be looked at.
On August 10 2016 04:33 Holyflare wrote: Also don't town read me because I'm narcissistic lol just town read me because I was right on GB mafia
1st: Wrong Grammar, Should be will in this case. 2nd: Mighty Logical HF is mighty with his logic, and totally didn't just make a paradox for people who town read him for the second bold, due to the first bold making it a false read, till GB flips.
Shape Gets on kush fairly early. The hate on maths is real though. Not a fan of the GB wagon so stays on Kush. Seems legit so far. The weird thing to me are those times where is goes "I am really bad at reading kush" as if he was trying to avoid responsibility. So that is scummy, too.
Hahahaha, No.
Have you seen me read Kush?
Ask him post game if you don't believe me now. But I have always been sus. of Kush whenever we play together. And many, many, many, many times, it ends with a ML. With how he was posting this game, I honestly thought he was going to flip scum, finally, and i be redeemed. yet, I honestly cannot tell when it comes to Kush if I am right or not.
Hell, I've even mislynched kush in Lylo when apparently he was obv townie. Brav and Part 1 I was sus. of him as well. Town in all of those.
On August 10 2016 05:33 Lunaticman wrote: I haven't played with GB before so I don't know about him. But I got a townread on SL. Did he explain why he didn't move his vote?
I've played with GB a few times long ago. He got mislynched Day 1 like 3 times in a roll as town. He got bussed d2 when he rolled scum. I think he got pretty far in Outlaw as scum. Cannot remember why.
He has no prob. posting or not posting as either alignment. Tone wise I never can tell. Kinda similar And he smells sometimes.
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote: Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.
On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
I'm tired what does this mean?
We talking about HF's progression on his read on you.
What I am saying is basically this: HF comes and pushes you. Calls you 100% mafia, and basically just really up for your death. You come back and start posting, and HF somewhat quickly loosens up on his read on you. Quickly enough, to where I feel that it is too quick for scum (I feel scum would continue it for a bit longer). And, during a time that you were viewed as a good lynch. So instead of pushing you, when he could easily do during then, and drop off later if needed. He changed his mind, and even pushed another lynch instead.
On August 10 2016 04:44 disformation wrote: @Tumble: small question: what made you say this:
On August 09 2016 06:59 Tumblewood wrote: kush flips town I know it ...but, it's better than nothing
Timestamps unfortunately don't help me discern if you saw him post this just before:
On August 09 2016 06:59 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Wow shapelog is actually doubting the randomness of my rng lynch..
And even then I am not entirely sure what you saw there.
Also working on a wall, so stay tuned folks!
no, I didn't, but I agreed in thread with the second quote I have trouble believing that shape would ever be skeptical of the verity of kush using the exact method of randomness he previously said he would use.
Answer, My Fucking post. ... Please.
Also, Why do u think i wouldn't be skeptical?
I wouldn't have had a problem with the "RNG" lynch, if the result of the "RNG" lynch seemed to be legibly "RNG" and not the top wagon at the time. Like I un....Well no I do not understand what the fuck that giant block of math was.
Anyways, even if i did understand and believed it "RNGed" picked the top wagon, I would still had vote for him, for the other reasoning in my post.
On August 10 2016 06:26 disformation wrote: Thanks for clarifying. TBH that is one of those things that give me trouble reading shape. Sometimes it just makes no sense. -.-
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote: Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.
On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
I'm tired what does this mean?
I think he means that he came to the same conclusion as me?
On August 10 2016 05:35 Shapelog wrote: Comment on the rest of Dis post later.
Shape Gets on kush fairly early. The hate on maths is real though. Not a fan of the GB wagon so stays on Kush. Seems legit so far. The weird thing to me are those times where is goes "I am really bad at reading kush" as if he was trying to avoid responsibility. So that is scummy, too.
Hahahaha, No.
Have you seen me read Kush?
Ask him post game if you don't believe me now. But I have always been sus. of Kush whenever we play together. And many, many, many, many times, it ends with a ML. With how he was posting this game, I honestly thought he was going to flip scum, finally, and i be redeemed. yet, I honestly cannot tell when it comes to Kush if I am right or not.
Hell, I've even mislynched kush in Lylo when apparently he was obv townie. Brav and Part 1 I was sus. of him as well. Town in all of those.
If you want links, I can give you some.
Yeah, links would be cool. But I will def. not be able to read them b4 night is over.
Eh, I try to get them before day cycle. Have to a bit of digging.
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote: Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.
On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
I'm tired what does this mean?
We talking about HF's progression on his read on you.
What I am saying is basically this: HF comes and pushes you. Calls you 100% mafia, and basically just really up for your death. You come back and start posting, and HF somewhat quickly loosens up on his read on you. Quickly enough, to where I feel that it is too quick for scum (I feel scum would continue it for a bit longer). And, during a time that you were viewed as a good lynch. So instead of pushing you, when he could easily do during then, and drop off later if needed. He changed his mind, and even pushed another lynch instead.
HF is definitely smart enough to see that he would have to drop his Luna push as scum. I still think the scum is GB and not HF though between the two. Plus day post may reveal more on that front.
Yeah ik, and if it was later I would say the same thing. Just IMO, he did it faster then I think scum would do. I mean, he asked luna 1 question after he came back and posted 2 posts, and just laid off.
Posting this now, Need to look SL, finish on Dis. I'll post those reads later.
Read list
Updated Reads in the case I die.
Town (no order):
HolyFlareGun Batman! Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
GB flipping scum honestly wouldn't make me move him up or down. Mostly because his beahvior and posting is much like mine when I am hardcore bussing.
Town Leans:
Dis I liking Dis more now. Active and seems to be pushing the game further. Posts seem good, and is actually doing content filled shit during the night phase.
Damdred: I actually share a lot of the same ideas with damdred after looking thru his filter. His activity is pretty good to look at, since i would imagine if he rolled scum (would be third time) he would be less active. Nothing jumps out to me as scummy when I read. Yet nothing did when i was town last two games lol. I find the holding of the vote reasonable as well.
Lunatic:He really started to look better in my eyes. His logic sometimes don't make sense, but eh. Mine sometimes doesn't either. Hes kinda hit all the spots for me right now, in regards to why I was scumming him. Would like to hear a response about the dis/damdred/vivax team comment I made to him.
Null (no order):
Grack:
Grackaren: I liked his approach to Kush, he keep pushing who he thought was sus. (Kush), and I like some of his reads. He also has done a good chunk more then others, and I wouldn't consider him for a Day 1 lynch rn.
I really like his Day 1 posts.
The only thing I got to add, is that he seems a little bit focus on survival (see posts #363 and #334) Which is something I suspect a mafia to be like. He was, tbf, close to the top lead, but doesn't moot the point entirely. I def. will revist him during the night post, or D2 if I am alive (lol)
Since then hes been kinda meh. Lower post count and such. Made me laugh with the Dam/HF relationship post. After being off the chopping block, he seems fine being a clown, yet on it, was stressing out. Which makes posts #363 and #334 more alarming. If he keeps it up, I prob move him more and more down. However, there are others that are either not active enough, or just aren't decent.
I do like shit posters tho....
Me'Derg: Generic. Honestly could be scum. If you honestly have to ask why, read my filter.
The only emoticon he showed was with lunatic, and i couldn't really gather anything from it. If it wasn't for the fact I could understand where the reads come from (honestly I have the same sus. about vivax and GB looking at their filters) he just seems to be floating by.
Tumblewood: Starting to kinda look like the tumble I know. I WISH HE WOULD FUCKING RESPOND TO MY POSTS TO/ABOUT HIM. But w/e. Posting fine enough i suppose, looks like he cares, and if i was paying attention to him during his last scum game, I would have something smart to say about his scum meta. Might actually look into that. The Dis read still kinda bothers me though, and I have asked for him to comment (i like trying to, if i can, to debate with people i find scummish) on it, yet nothing. Fixed on me and the RNG thing
Null In-actives:
Stutter: Well the only thing I had really on him that I felt like could maybe = a little bit of townie points was shot down, by him and others. Just is hoping on the GB train.
Mafia Reads
Vobby: Vivax honestly should be put lower. After all, he is basically following his scum meta right now. If he barely comes back, Auto lynch him (unless RL probs. a course) Before, he made decent posts but eh...
Had time to say he voted kush for no reason, yet had none to do anything else. Reminds me of Kel in.. God what was it called? Anyways, in that game kel missed the vote, and said "I thought deadline was later" which would mean that he would set time for it. Yet, he dis-speared afterwards (he was scum). And while it might not be the same setting, you would think vivax would post something or anything.
And yes, I here you meta conformist saying "meta is crap." But read up on vivax's scum meta, and you see what I mean. It's litterateur a reverse Koshi.
GlowingBear:
Glowingbear:Glowing Bear: (Not D1 lynch): I liked the posts I read from GB from the earlier part of the game. It felt natural in a way, and I even came to some of the same conclusions he did. My problem is, is that he kinda has fallen flat towards the end of the cycle. And it worries me because mafia tends to slack, when they get Town points.
That said, GB isn't in my pool for a D1 lynch though. If he keeps up with the last point, I will be considering him for a Day 2 lynch, unless he makes a really good content post to balance the activity out.
No on active and No really good content post. Vote is irrelevant to look at, since GB was afk during then. Would place lower, but I don't honestly have a grand contental reasoning to put him lower.
On August 10 2016 07:08 Holyflare wrote: why on earth would the vig claim, no thanks
Because I'd rather have the information now. We could be at lylo day 3 and there could be a fake claim by then that would require every townie to vote correctly to win.
You're bad or you're just mafia. I think you're the latter.
Cya
Oh GB your here.
Anything on the ye o'le annalist? I mean u are getting lynched, and calling the person calling for your lynch mafia, is kinda meh.
I didn't read most of the game. I have disformation as mafia because of his three or four first posts and I got convinced that it was way too forced to come from town. I may reevaluate that if I read his filter, but I find it hard to happen since I am already pretty much convinced he is mafia.
Damdred saw the same as I did, so I had him as town for the mind meld.
Holyflare played enough games with me to know that not caring to the game and being inactive isn't my mafia meta. I'm a very good strategist when it comes to scum play. He is the only experienced player here that should definitely know that my behaviour isn't scummy. He also knows that I can tunnel him as both alignments, so that bait thing he did saying "why isn't GB going ham on me?" is pretty forced.
You can add to that that he never wanted to answer me when I asked him a question regarding disformation, nor did he wanted to talk to me or to further investigate my intentions to form his read. He just suddenly decided I'm Mafia, and that's all.
When I asked what he thought of disformation, he gave the excuse that he wasn't barely reasing the thread. He refused to give a read on disformation. But kept commenting others. Why? Why accepting to comment on most of players and not comment on a specific one?
Dammit clue, I am reading everything in a tim curry Voice.
I didn't read most of the game. I have disformation as mafia because of his three or four first posts and I got convinced that it was way too forced to come from town. I may reevaluate that if I read his filter, but I find it hard to happen since I am already pretty much convinced he is mafia.
I noticed the same thing later on, but the rest of his filter seems ok so far (actually should get around to finishing that read on him.) Might of written it off to easily, but eh.
Damdred is apparently vig.
What do you make of his earlier read on luantic then?
You're bad or you're just mafia. I think you're the latter.
Cya
Soooo, what in your filter makes you town? Why sign up to do nothing? Demoralised because stutters is afk? Why would you let me push your mislynch so easily?
Basically you rolled mafia with afk partners, you know you're not an endgame carry so why bother playing?
I'm busy, very busy, but I wanted to play mafia. So I'm doing nothing when I'm busy and playing a little bit when I'm not. I said "I am going to suck" because of that.
It's not a matter of "what makes me town", I'm okay with you not reading me as town. It's a matter of "what makes me mafia". Because if there's nothing on my filter, I would expect you to call me "null"
So you expect something more on the lines of the read I have (which admittedly, you are in the mafia category.)?
You're bad or you're just mafia. I think you're the latter.
Cya
Oh GB your here.
Anything on the ye o'le annalist? I mean u are getting lynched, and calling the person calling for your lynch mafia, is kinda meh.
I didn't read most of the game. I have disformation as mafia because of his three or four first posts and I got convinced that it was way too forced to come from town. I may reevaluate that if I read his filter, but I find it hard to happen since I am already pretty much convinced he is mafia.
Damdred saw the same as I did, so I had him as town for the mind meld.
Holyflare played enough games with me to know that not caring to the game and being inactive isn't my mafia meta. I'm a very good strategist when it comes to scum play. He is the only experienced player here that should definitely know that my behaviour isn't scummy. He also knows that I can tunnel him as both alignments, so that bait thing he did saying "why isn't GB going ham on me?" is pretty forced.
You can add to that that he never wanted to answer me when I asked him a question regarding disformation, nor did he wanted to talk to me or to further investigate my intentions to form his read. He just suddenly decided I'm Mafia, and that's all.
When I asked what he thought of disformation, he gave the excuse that he wasn't barely reasing the thread. He refused to give a read on disformation. But kept commenting others. Why? Why accepting to comment on most of players and not comment on a specific one?
Dammit clue, I am reading everything in a tim curry Voice.
I didn't read most of the game. I have disformation as mafia because of his three or four first posts and I got convinced that it was way too forced to come from town. I may reevaluate that if I read his filter, but I find it hard to happen since I am already pretty much convinced he is mafia.
I noticed the same thing later on, but the rest of his filter seems ok so far (actually should get around to finishing that read on him.) Might of written it off to easily, but eh.
Damdred is apparently vig.
What do you make of his earlier read on luantic then?
On August 10 2016 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 10 2016 09:31 Holyflare wrote:
On August 10 2016 09:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 10 2016 07:09 Holyflare wrote: cya GB
Ok
You're bad or you're just mafia. I think you're the latter.
Cya
Soooo, what in your filter makes you town? Why sign up to do nothing? Demoralised because stutters is afk? Why would you let me push your mislynch so easily?
Basically you rolled mafia with afk partners, you know you're not an endgame carry so why bother playing?
I'm busy, very busy, but I wanted to play mafia. So I'm doing nothing when I'm busy and playing a little bit when I'm not. I said "I am going to suck" because of that.
It's not a matter of "what makes me town", I'm okay with you not reading me as town. It's a matter of "what makes me mafia". Because if there's nothing on my filter, I would expect you to call me "null"
So you expect something more on the lines of the read I have (which admittedly, you are in the mafia category.)?
I expect Holyflare, and Holyflare only, to admit he can't know my alignment yet.
On August 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote: For real I am actually without a doubt claiming cop. GlowingBear is mafia.
I'm salty as fuck I didn't get jk'd btw.
I'm claiming because vivax has flipped miller so the likelihood of a framer is 0% and 2 millers would be pretty bull shit. I'm thinking it's prob gf/rb/mafia
I get counter claimed and you lynch me for 2 free mafia. Townies do not even thin abouy fake claiming to defend me.
So we have Jk/Vig/Cop??
That doesn't make sense at all in a /13, unless there is either more to your role, or mafia has something to = it. Actually maybe it kinda does if JK is valued at .5 cannot remember honestly
On August 10 2016 10:57 Grackaroni wrote: It actually is a fair point, but it's like throwing a handful of sand on the top of Glowingbear's grave after Holyflare already buried him with a bulldozer.
On August 10 2016 11:06 Holyflare wrote: Jk/ 1 shot vig /cop isn't really imbalanced anyway
Eh, Maybe its because I never played with that kind of set up rofl. Grack, is he right?
On August 10 2016 11:06 Grackaroni wrote: Are you coming out with your theory?
lol, I thought he said end of cycle.
Yeah but then he quoted the post!
I figured that HF was just doing a Rayn lol. 1 shot should be possible with a miller. I don't really know that much about balance.
Why am I feeding your shitposting when I am against it.... Fuck it, I am tired, and shitposting is my jam
Well my boy. He is doing something called a "strip tease." Its when a female or male starts to undress very very slowly, to sexually arouse you. Now boy, knowing that you are my kin. You will most likely not see many of these during your life till you meet "the one." Therefore, whenever it happens, take the chance.
On August 10 2016 10:39 GlowingBear wrote: Let Holyflare lynch me, when I flip green, you lynch holyflare.
You think he is fake claiming as mafia to get you lynched? Why would he take the risk to do that?
I think he is messing around regardless of alignment. He got away with a red check I had on him once when I was confirmed cop, he is pretty capable to believe he can fool you.
Wait, Isn't HF that guy from hemialaina? The one LS had the red check on?
On August 11 2016 07:00 Grackaroni wrote: This game is going to start to get good after we wait 6 days to lynch Glowingbear and Stutters in succession.
On the 7th day of Christmas, My true love gave to me. 7 Scummers Scumming, 6 Shitposters posting, 5 townies arguing, 4 fake claims, 3 tunneled folk, 2 caller birds, and a lynched scummer in the lynch tree!
I am tired too.
Anyways, i haven't hard catch up (aka I skimmed) and while the scum team could be GB/Stutters/Me'derg, i kinda find it hard to believe that at the start of this cycle, we had have 92% roughly of the posts come from townies.
Or maybe I just want to believe the game isn't this easy lol.
On August 11 2016 10:01 sicklucker wrote: ya I half expected to come on to gb flipping mafia or hf tricking fools into voting me and getting an obs qt pm. pretty boring hurry up
On August 11 2016 10:03 sicklucker wrote: The one thing that bugs me is that hf did this whole Trap thing and then kind of aborted his plan thinking it wont work. I still think theres a real possibilty he was going to weasel out of a cop claim or something and say it was just presure and try to get me lynched instead hes a crafty guy like that
I feel like we lynch him if he trys to ever get out of that.
Honestly, if GB flips mafia:
Dis could be maybe more town. Yet, kinda worried that GB just spurts it out that DIS is top scum read basically. Kinda feels like distanting in a weird way. Which the only thing that stopping me about it was how ok he was with putting pressure on dis.
You I honestly haven't cared enough to make up my mind.
HF is obv cop.
And that is it without diving GB.
If he is miller:
first we bitch about balance. Second. we question HF and lynch him if he ever backs away from the cop claim.
On August 10 2016 17:03 Holyflare wrote: When did I say you're with any of them? I'm saying if GB is miller you're dead mate. There's no coming back from this SL.
On August 10 2016 17:10 disformation wrote: Yeah, dunno those SL posts seem a bit TMI like... esp. with:
On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote: REALLY UNLIKELY THO GUYS. just wanna throw that out there
Like: "Oh crap, better distance myself from that a bit"
It really actually does now that I think of it. Its kinda like me calling SL a alien in Storm.
Actually it is exactlly like me from storm and him. I was RC, and checked him N1, and proceeded to keep calling him a alien (his role was Broodmother) for the rest of the game.
The only thing i could honestly think of to say about it is that its dumb for scum to even try to down talk HF if they know GF is going to flip miller. I mean they could just shut up, kill HF (who would be cop I suppose in this case) and then lynch who ever they needed to.
On August 09 2016 02:44 Holyflare wrote: I have a pretty big hunch that SL is 100% mafia so it's not really a hunch but facts
On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote: didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway
I definitely targeted a weaker person in this game and he hasn't said shit about it and super dodged everything about me later
My first stream of posts was after your posts. My second stream of posts you had already bitched about it. but no im not really on board with the lunatic lynch. But at the same time I dont have a reason to think hes town yet. He was a really easy town read in the only game I played with him tho so I want to give him a day
SL lets lynch disfo, then after that we kynch HF. What do you think?
come on hf your not a bad player. you know this post means I cant be with gb. or disinfo...
This makes me think SL isn't Mafia. My intuition says that he would never make this post as Mafia. The logic is flawed, by my intuition is strong. Basically, if you consider I'm town (which I am), there is no reason for SL to defend himself from that associafion when he knows I'll flip town (in case he is Mafia)
On August 10 2016 18:41 disformation wrote: Going to add the claims + the check, since I see currently see no reason to doubt them. So from my pov the VCA now looks like this:
On August 09 2016 06:44 mderg wrote: I don't really like this GB lynch stuff. Gb hasn't done jack shit but this feels a bit like an easy way out.
If he had switched to GB, this would have been 4 on GB and 4 on kush, creating a situation where a GB lynch had been way more probable. So he sits on the at the time super dead Luna wagon and votes kush, when it becomes super clear, that kush wil be the lynch. (despite his timing, he was kinda like the 8th vote, since it was kinda clear TW would switch, too, as per his rule).
So GB+mderg+Stutters makes a tone of sense to me here.
Jezz Mate, That's a nice catch...
Expect I decided Look at the damm Timestamps. 1 min before he posted that he wanted to switch, this was the vote count in the thread:
On August 09 2016 06:51 disformation wrote: well according to tw's plan now is the time to move to the person with the most votes. since that is still kush. I will move there. can we PLEASE have two more ppl?
This is literally less then a min before his post announcing he (me'derg) was going to change.
If your going to do VCA, Please be arsed to look at the timestamps so I don't to waste my time going over them myself to double check your work.
On August 09 2016 06:51 disformation wrote: well according to tw's plan now is the time to move to the person with the most votes. since that is still kush. I will move there. can we PLEASE have two more ppl?
This is literally less then a min before his post announcing he (me'derg) was going to change.
If your going to do VCA, Please be arsed to look at the timestamps so I don't to waste my time going over them myself to double check your work.
Ok sweetie? Ok.
Actually I take it back now. I being dumb.
I thought you were saying that Me'derg was scum with GB over not switching till like after after. I get what you talking about now.
Still going to call you sweetie to imply the fact I am more masculine then you. Sweetie.
On August 11 2016 10:42 GlowingBear wrote: Also I think grackaroni is Mafia. His approach to the thread is still of someone who is ready to accuse everyone, yet it doesn't seems he is thinking critically about all players alignments
I saw that too, but I enjoy shitposting with him too much to actively do anything to deter him.
On August 11 2016 10:41 Shapelog wrote: Furthermore,
On August 09 2016 06:51 disformation wrote: well according to tw's plan now is the time to move to the person with the most votes. since that is still kush. I will move there. can we PLEASE have two more ppl?
This is literally less then a min before his post announcing he (me'derg) was going to change.
If your going to do VCA, Please be arsed to look at the timestamps so I don't to waste my time going over them myself to double check your work.
Ok sweetie? Ok.
Actually I take it back now. I being dumb.
I thought you were saying that Me'derg was scum with GB over not switching till like after after. I get what you talking about now.
Still going to call you sweetie to imply the fact I am more masculine then you. Sweetie.
On August 10 2016 17:03 Holyflare wrote: When did I say you're with any of them? I'm saying if GB is miller you're dead mate. There's no coming back from this SL.
On August 10 2016 17:10 disformation wrote: Yeah, dunno those SL posts seem a bit TMI like... esp. with:
On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote: REALLY UNLIKELY THO GUYS. just wanna throw that out there
Like: "Oh crap, better distance myself from that a bit"
It really actually does now that I think of it. Its kinda like me calling SL a alien in Storm.
Actually it is exactlly like me from storm and him. I was RC, and checked him N1, and proceeded to keep calling him a alien (his role was Broodmother) for the rest of the game.
The only thing i could honestly think of to say about it is that its dumb for scum to even try to down talk HF if they know GF is going to flip miller. I mean they could just shut up, kill HF (who would be cop I suppose in this case) and then lynch who ever they needed to.
But that is WIFOM at best.
ya but im not you... that was lolz bad
And my whole play that game was bad lol now that look back on it.
I am a Host of said game, and could prob. explain the meta on lunatic if you want. A course idk what they have for it, but there was a noticeable difference in his play.
On August 09 2016 21:57 mderg wrote: [quote] I don't know but I for sure don't like your position in this game.
you know I think your town because a mafia wouldn't say something so stupid.
Tell me what makes you not scum mister I didn't like the kush lynch therefore I'm town.
Yes it was more profound than that but "ok", if you want your entire filter to consist of why I am scum that's fine with me. I got a challenge for you. Post something that doesn't involve shading me and see what pops up.
Honestly your not worth my time.
I don't want to write anything that could get me into trouble, so I'll just say this condescending attitude of yours doesn't make me like you more.
You sound like Skynx 2.0, and you still didn't answer my question.
I mean if you don't want to scum hunt don't blame me for it.
How about you start explaining why you are town, so a stupid 3 year old like me can understand?
Why don't you give me a list of who you think is mafia besides me and reason, and I might explain it again.
"again"
I'm fairly confident there's a scum between Vivax/Stutters/GB just based of the fact that they didn't do shit. The wagons this game don't really give me the feeling of being scum driven with how much back and forth there was between them. That makes me think at least one scum has to be hiding in the not doing shit pile. I guess you could put sicklucker into the same pile but he somehow feels different. Like he just does whatever he wants and doesn't give a shit about how others see him (minus hf)
I still don't really like grack, after he cried about getting lynched and people leaving his wagon, he hasn't done jack shit. Like a scum feeling safe again and deciding to leave it at that. I get that his opening was very active and he boldly pushed a kush lynch quite a bit. But that's not too strange for scum to do.
The rest of the game is a bit of a mess. I don't ever want to lynch tumble. Also don't want to lynch shape. disfo had a strange opening but the rest of his game seemed fine to me. Damdred is disappointing but had like one post I really liked. Holyflare I didn't really like but his insane narcissism makes me lean towards town on him.
Also vengeance time. My tears have dried, but the emotional scars run deep. Mderg hasn't done anything since he callously drew attention to my crying in the corner. For shame!
But really, it's pretty weak to accuse me of doing nothing when his end of day vote was on Kushm4sta for the posts that I didn't like.
This post below is also suspect since his attitude towards people not doing anything seems a bit different when choosing his vote than earlier in the day and after the vote.
On August 12 2016 04:47 Lunaticman wrote: I think it's kinda funny how in this game and last game people are trying to meta read me. I'll honestly just do whatever I want and feel like. But it's nice to see your trying to solve the game (and looking at the filters like you said you would).
If I was a VTdis though, I would have nailed stutters for meta instead of me. He is playing very differently than his last town game.
And also the amount of posts I make heavily depends on how much time I have when I'm working.
That was actually something I was going to include in the meta discussion lol. the fact you were working 24 hours during that game.
[u] part, Onegu is prob bleaching his eyes over it.
On August 11 2016 16:53 Holyflare wrote: Phase 2 going to be amazing.
Is there a Phase 3?
I like to get prepared if there is. Phase 2 came really quickly for me, and I haven't been able to go to walmart to buy fishing hooks for it. Sorry.
On August 11 2016 20:03 Lunaticman wrote:
The case against Disinformation, who promptly lives up to his name as a mafia spreading lies and deceit:
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Disclamer: Still learning how to format stuff on this site. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
On August 07 2016 06:58 disformation wrote: So how's everyone doing at this fine <insert local time of day here>? @Tumble: have we played in a game together before? I think I obs-warriored a few games you were in, but not sure if we played together yet.
no
hm. thought so. Lots of ppl I haven't played with before in this actually. I am also noticing quite a bit of brevity on your part. I do hope your <insert local time of day here> is okay. Or are you unhappy with which fate RNGesus provided you?
This very first post set of red flags for me, it actually implies that he has a power role. Since he never stated he was happy or unhappy with his own role, it is in all regards a Freudian slip after reading his own role pm. I wanted to save this for later but it feels like the right time to reveal it considering that all the blue roles have been claimed. He then posts 4 posts in a row just WIFOIMNG which indicates that he is kinda chill about the whole game, of course he is because he knows who the mafia are.
On August 07 2016 16:11 sicklucker wrote: wanna just rng this shit
Mafia
On August 07 2016 23:51 GlowingBear wrote: Town Damdred
Mafia Disformation
Step up people.
Where is sicklucker in the second post?
With the information now available to us it is easy to see that the GB mafia is trying to shade the Disinformation mafia for late game cred. It also such an early post that is feels constructed in a way, taking a stance to look like town. But early enough you can just claim WIFOIMING later. Or at the very late game when Disinformation is lynched and GB is alive towncred. It is all followed by a "I was joking post". Obviously the mafia had a change of heart. It is actually a very clever way to create distance between the two players.
The rest of his filter is full of filler but no effort to solve the game or any real content. He states several times he is going to look at mine/Gracs meta from last game. But never truly arrives at any conclusion. His filter is also full of statements that he is going to do all this work but it never arrives. I have yet to see a single list from his work.
And now look at the conversation between the posts 287# - 303#. With the information now available Tumble our Jailer is positive either Grac or Dis are mafia. The entire exchange is intresting since GB is indeed mafia just look at the votelist from around that time it is obvious that the mafia are trying to save disinformation when they failed to start a train on me.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Vote Count - Day 1
Not voted (4): Shapelog, Stutters695, Vivax, Damdred
Currently no one is slated to be lynched. There are 13 players presently alive and 7 are needed for the lynch. This day ends in 0m 0s at 00:00 CEST (+02:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
At this critical junction we have one mafia bussing but I would be surprised if two mafia were bussing this early this speaks volumes about Grac being a VT.
With the coloring and my townreads on Mderg and SL there are only a few names left in the trio not known. It comes down to Shapelog or Stutters. I don't think a mafia would be as inactive as Stutters as Viva was so atm the current mafia team looks like this:
Shapelog/GB/Disinformation
It is also cute to look at the interactions between Shapelog/GB and Dis, they are really doing a good job separating their reads/communication etc. There is for example a long qoute on shapelog from Dis where he basically says nothing.
Note: I have tons of posts qouted but it was just to much work atm, also the coloring on dis is based on my read and GB from cop claim. Even if GB flips town it is highly likely that disinformation is still mafia.
At this critical junction we have one mafia bussing but I would be surprised if two mafia were bussing this early this speaks volumes about Grac being a VT.
With the coloring and my townreads on Mderg and SL there are only a few names left in the trio not known. It comes down to Shapelog or Stutters. I don't think a mafia would be as inactive as Stutters as Viva was so atm the current mafia team looks like this:
With the information now available to us it is easy to see that the GB mafia is trying to shade the Disinformation mafia for late game cred.
That makes no sense if you think GB was busing Dis. Why would GB try to give Dis late game cred, if he was intenting to bus Dis, aka killing him? If anything, it becomes obv that GB would be bussing dis like i kinda talked about before.
Like this is a post he made before you looked better to the thread:
On August 09 2016 02:44 Holyflare wrote: I have a pretty big hunch that SL is 100% mafia so it's not really a hunch but facts
On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote: didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway
I definitely targeted a weaker person in this game and he hasn't said shit about it and super dodged everything about me later
My first stream of posts was after your posts. My second stream of posts you had already bitched about it. but no im not really on board with the lunatic lynch. But at the same time I dont have a reason to think hes town yet. He was a really easy town read in the only game I played with him tho so I want to give him a day
SL lets lynch disfo, then after that we kynch HF. What do you think?
If they are mafia together, GB is hard bussing Dis. In fact, if they are mafia (dis/GB) it makes no sense for Dis to choose you to be someone he pushes when GB (a team mate) cannot support due to what he said.
Also this is kinda overstating.
The entire exchange is intresting since GB is indeed mafia just look at the votelist from around that time it is obvious that the mafia are trying to save disinformation when they failed to start a train on me.
Day 1, GB wasn't on you. He was trying to get HF/DIS and stuff. If he was trying to save him, via lynching you, why isn't GB (the connection you have between the two in question) not doing anything to push it? I mean, he was on at the time to do so as well.
I mean yes, GB was pushing Dis. But he could still have casted sus. on you to where others picked it up on it. In fact, he also wanted to lynch HF, who was someone supporting the lunatic lynch.
it makes no sense for Dis to choose you to be someone he pushes when GB (a team mate) cannot support due to what he said.
since i realized this:
I mean yes, GB was pushing Dis. But he could still have casted sus. on you to where others picked it up on it. In fact, he also wanted to lynch HF, who was someone supporting the lunatic lynch.
On August 12 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: NSM XXII. Starring: Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3. Did CC the vet eod D2 and got him lynched (the vet was super super inactive). So 1/4 of his filter is like trolling the town after that and post game and stuff. Does not have a bad case + Show Spoiler +
bad case, get it?! hehe
of tunnelvision. Posts exactly 1 reads list. Exactly n1. Exactly what he did here. Feels a lot more subdued in NSM XXII than here though.
Fun fact that is prolly NAI, but really cute: In NSM XXII and here he instantly voted during the N1 phase. + Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2016 20:28 Lunaticman wrote: #Vote Rels
Fyi this vote won't be counted since it was cast before day two officially began.
here:
On August 09 2016 16:42 Lunaticman wrote: #Vote Disinformation
He didn't do that in his towngame in 72h from what I see.
@activity: from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.
Again would love for grack and sl to chime in.
The NAI is NAI because he thought it was the day phase in NSM due to people talking (which 72 hours didn't have.
Currently GlowingBear is slated to be lynched. There are 10 players presently alive and 6 are needed for the lynch. This day ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
GB should be a hipster and self vote.
That way he can claim post game if he is scum that he was on the winning wagon for D2.
On August 12 2016 04:47 Lunaticman wrote: I think it's kinda funny how in this game and last game people are trying to meta read me. I'll honestly just do whatever I want and feel like. But it's nice to see your trying to solve the game (and looking at the filters like you said you would).
If I was a VTdis though, I would have nailed stutters for meta instead of me. He is playing very differently than his last town game.
And also the amount of posts I make heavily depends on how much time I have when I'm working.
On August 12 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: NSM XXII. Starring: Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3. [...] @activity: from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.
Okay, maybe I should have made it more clear for stutters: I thought the wowzers would imply that I am taken aback by how different the filters are. On your activity: lo and behold, I said the same thing.
Protip: I've played over 20 games. There are ways to catch me as scum, but activity is quite literally the worst one to pick.
haha, why don't you share your prefered way to catch them then?
Your so evasive... God I'm going to switch you for Shape in my 3x mafia pile.
Eh it works pretty well. I've only been mislynched once ironically for being too busy to play). My townieness will be established in time like it always is. I'm not worried.
Anyway, when mafia I bus a lot. Like if I have a slam dunk case, it's because I know. If I'm pushing a town it's much more timid. I also would generally make it a point of emphasis to be more active than I was d1. I would have posted something, even if it wasn't great, rather than essentially nothing to ensure I wasn't a prime vig target. I also wouldn't come back and say essentially nothing.
It's all wifom anyway since obviously I'm aware of my own meta, but activity is not an indicator for me.
I'd be a fine policy lynch though.
I prob will check that to make sure, but if it is true, you and me both brotha
On August 12 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote: You mean a meek shitty defence into afk? Of course it fits he's mafia.
lol, i mean if hes town wouldn't he have voted someone now since he littlery spent the last 47 hours talking about SR and such? Or you for that matter.
On August 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote: I don't care about trading or whatever nonsense you want to defend yourself with
But I do believe in innocent before guilty or in this case, Guilty until proven innocent, so tell me everything you noticed during your plan/bait in the last 48 hours.
I also believe in pissing off people too, and GB i can piss off from the dead too via this way.
If you truly did plan to do:
. The reason as town is mafia lynch, bait reactions and fuck shit up in a game where people were doing dick for 47 hours and then playing.
On August 12 2016 07:59 sicklucker wrote: meh im not surprised acualy hf didnt realy try as mafia last time. not sure why he tried so hard tho he was trying to weasel out of this claim all day
Lol that is why i am quoting himself.
On August 10 2016 11:42 Holyflare wrote: Chop chop, get to solving the game.
HolyFlare was just temp banned for 90 days by Shapelog.
That account was created on 2010-11-28 05:37:07 and had 21180 posts.
Reason:
You just came off a claim and you show no serious attempt at reasonable discussion, but instead intentionally try troll the thread. See you in 72 hours before the Lynch. Maybe you can contain your bad posting and claiming habits by then.
On August 12 2016 08:30 Holyflare wrote: My initial plan was to unclaim on Gb if he tried to play or at least be sensible and subsequently draw a shot later. You can see me try and talk to GB through the day and I did see gleams of town GB with the giving up and it's part of the reason I kept telling him to try and solve the game and arguing with him instead of afking on it. However, he didn't vote, he completely ignored SL's posts that made SL almost confirmed mafia to himself and he was stuck on his one read from the start of day 1.
I'm definitely disappointed and ashamed that he solely joined up to claim blue and afk but obviously part of it is my fault too.
Bold is right and wrong. Right that he didn't vote, wrong that he ignored SL comments, and in fact, said they were town.
On August 12 2016 08:30 Holyflare wrote: My initial plan was to unclaim on Gb if he tried to play or at least be sensible and subsequently draw a shot later. You can see me try and talk to GB through the day and I did see gleams of town GB with the giving up and it's part of the reason I kept telling him to try and solve the game and arguing with him instead of afking on it. However, he didn't vote, he completely ignored SL's posts that made SL almost confirmed mafia to himself and he was stuck on his one read from the start of day 1.
I'm definitely disappointed and ashamed that he solely joined up to claim blue and afk but obviously part of it is my fault too.
Bold is right and wrong. Right that he didn't vote, wrong that he ignored SL comments, and in fact, said they were town.
Nono he didn't even acknowledge the miller and role cop thing which would/should have made him go crazy.
On August 11 2016 22:29 GlowingBear wrote: Like, again, I've never questioned your night actions, I have no idea why you're coming up with that.
I also don't understand how you can say that SL has too much insight on me when he calls me Miller (I didn't see that post?) and you jump on him calling him Mafia and never dropping that read when, well, he couldn't have too much insight because you think I'm Mafia and you said that two millers is impossible.
What I'm trying to say is: you either believe I'm Mafia and SL is stupid town considering I'm Miller, or you believe SL had TMI, then I'm town and he is Mafia. You can't call us both Mafia, and that's what you're doing.
On August 11 2016 22:47 Holyflare wrote: Because nobody's first fucking thought on a cop check on a day where i would have likely got you lynched without it would be "oh holyflare could be role cop and gb miller," that's CRAZY and yes sl says dumb shit but it makes me paranoid.
I also said two millers is unlikely, not impossible.
I am also not fake claiming.
Basically it shows that I was super paranoid that he was towny which makes sense if I don't know his alignment!!! I was getting crazy paranoid with SL's posts and now it fits in perfectly hence why to gb it looked like I was calling them both mafia.
I think he did acknowledge it tho here:
On August 11 2016 22:34 GlowingBear wrote: Oops, on the bolded:
I think town SL is capable of thinking that. I would think that. That's what us paranoid town do. What I don't believe is that you said he has too much insight while still calling me town. It doesn't make sense.
On August 12 2016 09:22 Holyflare wrote: Grack/shape do you mind doing a quick thing about why you think the other one is mafia? Like bullet points brief.
hes actually a Null read for me last time I read thru his filter. Will check again after i get done with a post.
On August 12 2016 09:34 Holyflare wrote: You are also extremely welcome to filter dive me and try and link me to people or whatever but you should definitely ask me questions about stuff if you need to.
On August 12 2016 09:39 Holyflare wrote: Specifically, I know nothing about Luna, I don't know his scum game at all. SL keeps posting he'd be more tinfoil as town and it's making me wifom harder because regardless of alignment I don't think SL would lie about that.
Honestly, Meta is useless for him. He has played 2 games on TL, and his scum play suffered from work. 72 hours he was, but 1 game isn't enough for me to comment about it.
He was smart enough to CC Kel to lynch him for a 1v1 trade.
On August 12 2016 08:35 Holyflare wrote: I have a bit of a block with Luna for the most part and it's definitely because I've never played with him but I tend to think that new mafia don't try and play the game or solve it when there's a red check afk day. Luna made a case against disfo based almost entirely on his association with GB. So the question is, is he smart enough /motivated to do that. Generally I would say new players arent. I also was hesitant to lynch him d1 because I saw some towny obstinace.
Basically he's probably town unless you can say he's an intelligent mafia.
Disformation is much the same reasoning for a town read but his posting comes across as smart. Yet, he filter dived previous games, did associations etc etc. I'd very likely say he was town too.
On August 12 2016 08:35 Holyflare wrote: I have a bit of a block with Luna for the most part and it's definitely because I've never played with him but I tend to think that new mafia don't try and play the game or solve it when there's a red check afk day. Luna made a case against disfo based almost entirely on his association with GB. So the question is, is he smart enough /motivated to do that. Generally I would say new players arent. I also was hesitant to lynch him d1 because I saw some towny obstinace.
Basically he's probably town unless you can say he's an intelligent mafia.
Disformation is much the same reasoning for a town read but his posting comes across as smart. Yet, he filter dived previous games, did associations etc etc. I'd very likely say he was town too.
An addendum to this though, while Luna's experience and actions lead to me thinking he's town some of the content about there being multiple mafia on wagons is very fucking suspicious and sends alarm bells evry time I hear it.
Personally, even ignoring the out come of the lynch last cycle. That case was funky. It had holes all through it and such, for example, if GB was trying to get Dis late game cred, why would GB be on Dis wagon to bus him? and stuff like that. The point he made about Dis's intro is basically the same, minus that IIRC he said that he was a PR or something. Then for the third scum, he liked some town reads over some, and the some was last scum. yet last time i checked, i was just 1 below Me'derg. Perhaps this had something to do with the suppose quote between me and dis over "nothing" as he said, but he decided to to quote that. But that is later wrong when he stated he was thinking of changing me with stutters.
His VCA logic is ok. Minus the bussing nature mistakes I pointed out. Dis also pointed some things wrong with it as well.
That's my take off the top of my head. Now, the question your debating is his newbie status. What's your current thought about it?
On August 12 2016 09:57 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah It's a bit surprising that he didn't wade into the miller/cop stuff. He usually talks about everything lol. I still think he's town right now. Go to sleep HF.
IIRC he didn't even know what a miller was till D2 flip.
On August 12 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote: Anyway, my thoughts on his newbie status are in my post? I don't think newbies usually make cases (yes, it was shit and full of holes) on people halfway through an afk day when they know their case is turned to shit later when GB flips.
I feel like the motivation or actual idea just wouldn't occur to him. I also mentioned the alarm bells but when I read his filter I remember him explain about the vca stuff and me not hating it.
Basically a heavily associated case that becomes useless within 24 hours is almost (ALMOST) exclusively a town thing to do imo.
On August 12 2016 10:07 Holyflare wrote: Aka it just seems like crazy confirmation bias tunnnel?
Lol I was just seeing if you had anything else to add.
The info I am getting if your scum is also great too.
The bold was kinda my thinking towards it. I certainly remember my first "case" as a town. the Idea is kinda strange too. He could maybe of gotten the idea as mafia if GB was, but that is not the case.
Hmmm Overlooking it, Personally, activity wise he reminds me of myself, lesser self (i ran out of posts, literally) Content wise its was meish Tone kinda is the same.
He actually does look a lot like me in my first game on TL come to think about it rofl.
I need to go back and look at his reaction towards Dis (I would say mine, but he left IRC) to see if anything stands out. But eh, the rest of his filter is ok without looking
On August 09 2016 06:35 Stutters695 wrote: Forgot about GB. I don't know his meta really, but if someone else will vouch for him being better as town I'd give it a shot. Only game I can think of was assassin where he pardoned scum and executed town BH iirc.
On August 09 2016 06:22 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:10 Damdred wrote: Idk why me holding my vote is scummy, if I didn't vote probably is but,I'll make sure a lynch is done.
Kush is a possible but so is lunatic meh.
Yeah, I'm warning up quite a bit on lunatic. I still like kush a bit more though.
On August 09 2016 05:22 Stutters695 wrote: Not sure I agree with you about luna yet(certainly not enough to want to lynch him d1), but the rest of your post is pretty solid.
On August 09 2016 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 09 2016 03:49 disformation wrote: Yeah, I think I like the luna lynch a bit more now. Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter.
What makes you like the Luna lynch? It actually feels like he doesn't have the time to me.
On August 10 2016 16:42 Holyflare wrote: You're just saying that gb is going to flip miller meaning you know I'm actually the cop and you're setting up my mislynch for the day after. No way you're getting away with this leap in logic.
2nd accusation of somebody for already knowing that GB is town. Continues to reaffirm his claim and forces mislynch.
Conclusion: I like Shapelog more now. Also Lunatic. Perhaps Stutters even less than before. Warning: Reads will likely be volatile.
I have my own conclusion in a bit. Might not make it before night cycle thou due to time.
Which if mafia kills me, oh well. At least town will get off there arses. I hope.
The game in the last link has neither shape nor kush in it?
Lol i thought Kush was in it rofl. I was Justanotherscummer.
I mean also, while the 2 games that was ended early did do so, you can still see I my entail read on him.
On August 13 2016 02:14 disformation wrote: Shape's filter are horrible to read. Game 3: he scum reads kush and pushes a bit. then kush claims cop. shape cc's. (kush cop, shape vt). not sure if the cc was to protect kush for 1 more check, or that he didn't believe him. but i guess it supports his point with not being good at reading kush.
Love you too sweetie.
Also that was back when I was bad at this game.
Evwryone else I have a decent amount of reasoning to,think,is town. Shape is a gut read but I liked some of his reasoning but him letting hf try to talk himself out is sort of a red flag to,me. Don't sleep on him.
Wrong sir. I am gathering more info on his team mates. For ex Lunatic is prob not Scum with him, due to this night phase discussion i had with him. I feel like if Lunatic was mafia with him, HF would be trying more to PROVE he was scummy then the opposite of what he was doing (trying to prove him town via newbie logic.) Not only that, put it puts who ever his 2 team mates are in this case able to push lunatic for those posts.
Combine this with the D1 push, and his quick change on his read on him D1, and he is mostly town due to HF scummness.
On August 13 2016 07:07 Holyflare wrote: I know I've played with your heartstrings too many times but I will get those reads into a nicely formatted post with anchor tags et al to make it up to you.
You Can not Make Up My Lost of Love with Posts!
On August 13 2016 07:07 disformation wrote: i think my brain is overwhelmed with this information. damdy claims vig as vt. and hf just goes and reclaims cop?
can I claim to be a planar dragon?
No sweetie, That is my role and i will CC your fake claim. Then turn out to be VT and make thread kill itself. Ez.
On August 11 2016 22:29 GlowingBear wrote: Like, again, I've never questioned your night actions, I have no idea why you're coming up with that.
I also don't understand how you can say that SL has too much insight on me when he calls me Miller (I didn't see that post?) and you jump on him calling him Mafia and never dropping that read when, well, he couldn't have too much insight because you think I'm Mafia and you said that two millers is impossible.
What I'm trying to say is: you either believe I'm Mafia and SL is stupid town considering I'm Miller, or you believe SL had TMI, then I'm town and he is Mafia. You can't call us both Mafia, and that's what you're doing.
If HF was town he would have unclaimed and moved the lynch on to SL on day 2 since he never had a check on GB in the first place. He didn't do that. He pushed through the mislynch on GB and is now trying to close out the game with this final SL push.
Trust me, I just read his posts to get additional info, and to see how much being a lawyer has impacted his way of typing.
On August 13 2016 08:01 Grackaroni wrote: Grackaroni to Shapelog. Grackaroni to Shapelog. The scum is squirming. I repeat, the scum is squirming. I need backup. Over.
On August 11 2016 22:47 Holyflare wrote: Because nobody's first fucking thought on a cop check on a day where i would have likely got you lynched without it would be "oh holyflare could be role cop and gb miller," that's CRAZY and yes sl says dumb shit but it makes me paranoid.
I also said two millers is unlikely, not impossible.
On August 11 2016 18:53 Holyflare wrote: I like how sl is paranoid/mafia but not explaining that if stutters is town and gb is town it's lylo tomorrow and my claim would be good mafia plays.
Gb especially, very disappointed in his attempt to throw suspicion at me, poor show. Disappointment all round really.
On August 11 2016 22:47 Holyflare wrote: Because nobody's first fucking thought on a cop check on a day where i would have likely got you lynched without it would be "oh holyflare could be role cop and gb miller," that's CRAZY and yes sl says dumb shit but it makes me paranoid.
I also said two millers is unlikely, not impossible.
I am also not fake claiming.
You see if you're town GB and I'm town you have to say that SL is mafia for knowing it at this point. As mafia he knows that I am town claiming cop and you are town so unless there's a framer (there won't be) then you must be a miller. You're accusing me of setting up for SL tomorrow when this very conspiracy theory is setting ME up first.
Yet you say he's town for the shittest post on the planet and I'm setting HIM up.
I was waivering on GB, you see I WOULD have switched off GB and it was going to happen if he just acknowledged the SL thing but he fucking went full dumb and said SL was towny for a shit post and that somehow SL's post made sense from tinfoil (in what world!??!?!?!?!?). Bolded is most important of why I didn't unvote and put the SL thing in the back of my head, it looked like GB was spewing SL as town to me.
On August 13 2016 09:00 Grackaroni wrote: I didn't mean you. Sicklucker.
OH FUCKING SHAPELOG
I am his whore I suppose.
On August 13 2016 21:28 mderg wrote: Starting my filter dive marathon (which is not actually a marathon because I'll be taking several breaks and probably won't finish today) with Shapelog
D1 he was a bit waffly in his reads. Wasn't sure what stance to take about disfo's opening and put lots of people into either town lean or null in his reads post. The scumread on kush had decent reasoning behind it and was full of confidence but he kind of discredited himself in the disclaimer before the read. Also had tumble and luna as scumleans, with tumble the reasoning was a bit strange imo.
What do you find strange about it? I illiteracy been arsing him (tumble) to responded to it, and he never did. So i fucking would love someone after all this time tell me whats with it.
N1 he puts some pressure on me calling my reads generic but never really follows that up with anything. Funnily enough updates his reads post with Vivax and GB going to his scumleans and hf to town, I'd personally call that pretty generic.
If you read my read post more, and my posts more around it, you might see that I said something about that.
D2 he believes both claims and posts lots of shitposts. Does some analysis but nothing too substancial.
N2 engages in conversation with hf. Dismisses luna's case on disfo for reasons I agree with.
After going through his filter he looks a bit worse than I initially thought. He didn't push his reads that much and while he did take a very clear stance on kush he also showed a clear lack of confidence in reading kush. Would possibly lynch.
Going through his filter took much longer than expected and was a bit of a pain. [/quote] What do you make of the games i link then?
Strange start to the game with "Lynch all Stutters", I guess he was trying to be funny. Votes kush for his squirminess. Does some self meta and that's pretty much it. Would lynch despite it being a blind lynch.
Going through the rest when I've got time.
What do you make of the fact that HF rarely talked about both of you, yet he inculded him in his D2 final scum team and no you?
On August 14 2016 02:38 Stutters695 wrote: Sorry guys. Got in a fairly bad car accident yesterday. Car is fucked. Been dealing with the insurance company all day. I've got today off otherwise so I'll try to get some stuff together.
Holy shit, what's with people getting into car wrecks lately.
On August 14 2016 03:20 Grackaroni wrote: We would all have to agree beforehand to plug our Holyflare ears.
Wal-mart doesn't have any left Best buy?
On August 14 2016 03:20 Stutters695 wrote: I'm probably just being bad, but I'd be open to lynching outside HF today. If he's actually town, he'll have to be shot and there are still two/three other mafia to hit.
This just feels super unnecessary when they could have lynched GB then claimed a red check on me today.
Can you explain why you mentioned that thing about me possibly being a PR when I came back to vote GB HF?
Let's just say u convince us too, who do u want?
On August 14 2016 04:15 Stutters695 wrote: I just don't see it. Claiming there doesn't make sense as scum. There were so many easy mislynches
Just because scum and sense start with s, doesn't mean scum has sense.
On August 14 2016 03:40 Holyflare wrote: I don't think I'm particularly shitting up the thread either, I've given you all game relevant information to my thought processes, why SL is mafia and why I thought Luna/Dis etc were town. I've given you my check of Stutters (green) etc etc, not really much shitting.
HF I'm sorry man but it's policy to kill you. If we had a misslynch to spare things might have been different. But your going night night.
That doesn't mean you have to stop playing the game. You can clear up your alignment to the other players.
Explain to me why you thought Disformation's first post was him claiming blue?
Wow, I'm impressed by this post, it is obvious he was claiming a power rule I never said blue, and he didn't claim it. It was a Freudian slip just look at the leisure of his posts following the statement.
But by virtue of elimination the only thing he can be is mafia.
Alas it may be moot, I will not exclude the possibility that he is VT, but it is highly unlikely. I also like he put so much effort into discrediting me after I made a case about him. A regular townie would just accept it and "die".
To me it is obvious.
I am also pretty sure Stutters is not mafia, neither are Mderg or SL. I honestly think last mafia is between Grac/Shape. But we can get there later.
As always there is a possibility I am completely wrong but that is the life of a vanilla VT.
Would you explain the bold? How does it make sense for a townie to do that? if they are town, they aren't "discrediting you" they are voicing their sus. about you. No regular townie is ever going to just die because they feel like after the flip, their opinion doesn't matter.
On August 14 2016 08:03 Holyflare wrote: Conspiracy theory, disformation and lunatic are mafoa and he's hard bussing him with things that don't make any sense in the slightest.
If it was flip flop, I could understand. Lunatic has been over Dis the entire game.
Honestly Hf, just tell me dis is mafia, and i can just not post anymore?
Unless we apply the double Kingston theory to it, then it just a bunch of shit hf made up. Or maybe Hf is just coming down with S.U.I.T. due to this game's pressure.
Honestly, i don't normally diagnose someone with S.U.I.Ts. But with how this game has been going, it would be 100% logical that HF is suffering from S.U.I.T. by now.
On August 15 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote: weakest mafia team to ever win a game probably =[ literally had to do nothing
I really do not think you are giving them enough credit. Things they did right:
(1) Shapelog's blue snipe on Tumblewood was beautiful, Tumble was NKed solely because he was blue. He had a blue meta read on him. Couldn't determine investigation or protective but he knew he was blue.
(2) disformation broke meta by upping the activity massively. Maybe you never played with him but as mafia, he lurks hard and really falls off. He also poked holes in town's cases and put himself out there at greater risk to draw attention.
(3) Shapelog mixed his "quality" posts with just enough spam that enough people didn't want to read his posts or at least not critically. I was thinking enough people would catch on to him but this was not the case.
(4) Presence matters. Scum had ~50% of the total posts in this forum. They were able to influence the thread or dispel suspicions and even better disassociate from each other. (scum qt reference: shapelog was looking to divide the town days 2 and 3 to distance himself from the other two.)
No doubt town had their share of muckups but that blue snipe night one made a difference.
Did I do 3? Honestly, I kinda just stop trying d2 because of the claim (made me lazy) and started to shit post for fun. 1 was actually a gamble on my behalf.
It kinda made me lazy when town just tore itself apart.
Moreover, I actually would of read Kush town this game if it wasn't for the fact that he was a easy ML Not Bussing was really fucking hard. But fun too.
Tumble plays blue almost the same as he plays town, he is really really good at hiding it. Honestly, he wasn't just NK over maybe being blue. He was also NK for being TR by everyone, and HF worries. I just suggested that he could be blue I think once or twice when I was tired and seeing who was maybe blue.
I also totally didn't want to kill him over HF due to him knowing me and being on my tail. totally didn't trick my team to help me.
On August 15 2016 08:38 Grackaroni wrote: (3) Shapelog mixed his "quality" posts with just enough spam that enough people didn't want to read his posts or at least not critically. I was thinking enough people would catch on to him but this was not the case.
Is this not standard Shapelog though? I didn't look at any games so I don't know.
Eh, I usually have more of a punch in content though as town recently. I still spam, but I don't do it enough to get ignored.
EPT
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