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On August 15 2016 07:17 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 07:12 Lunaticman wrote:I knew you were mafia dis from the first 5 posts sorry  I think it was funny no one stopped to consider it though. The thing is - and this is partially aimed at GlowingBear - you are going to need more than "bad entrance" to say someone is mafia and further more convince others that they are mafia. There are players (like me, since I have somewhat of a dry personality in game admittedly) that have poor entrances as either alignment. A better case will have a combination of elements. Poor entrance plus suspicious vote switches, plus whatever else. That's what gives you a better push.
I tried it but alas it didnt work. HF claim stole my chance to push him.
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Nah Lunatic, I would have read your case on disformation and talked about it more if it wasn't based on things that don't really make anyone mafia. It seemed like your case was based a lot on GB and a lot on things that didn't make sense to other people other than yourself.
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Aldo you canot not this but I have godly day 1 instincts. Im famous for finding first mafia in games as town. Well forums are very different though.so I dont kniw about that.
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what's annoying me is that while we got a perfect win I'm not happy about my game at all. If town hadn't been busy doing stupid shit, they could have found me pretty easily.
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I am very upset at people that used to post a lot but don't anymore btw, yeh I ruined the game and I take it entirely on my shoulders but it's not fun to play a game where 4/5 town players post 5 posts at deadline and don't care.
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On August 15 2016 07:22 Holyflare wrote:
Nah Lunatic, I would have read your case on disformation and talked about it more if it wasn't based on things that don't really make anyone mafia. It seemed like your case was based a lot on GB and a lot on things that didn't make sense to other people other than yourself.
Yes of course If I could type like you I would have won it singlehandedly. But the thing is people here are way to logical. The meta has no preference for gut readszor instinct. Timing dosent really work or tone.
Ppl rather listen to rep than amnewb too. So it is hard especially when ppl dont trust you.
First game I played I was on tumble Gf but let him convince me he wasnt. Second game I was mafia so I couldnt help it. This time I at least stuck to my read and was 100 procent.
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I don't think it has anything to do with how you type? I was listened to my first game, it's just that the things you were focusing on didn't make sense in the slightest?
Someone looking like they are a power role doesn't make someone mafia and his post didn't really look like that either. The second part of your case was that he was mafia with GB and shading him or w/e and I didn't have a check on GB and he flipped town so was redundant. And finally the part about "mafia probably have one person bussing and one off wagon," is irrelevant because mafia can do whatever they want, especially as you were saying dis wasn't on his own wagon and is therefore mafia.
You have a point at the end where Dis quotes a long post and says nothing <---- if you can piece that together with other information then that IS a scummy trait and better to look out for.
Basically, just playing more games will help you communicate things that look scummy more, people work out things logically so by showing things that have multiple possibilities and calling it a mafia posting makes people sceptical of your case at best.
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On August 15 2016 07:09 disformation wrote:some notes on myself: i think that was much better than my last two scum games. still made a bunch of errors: - that entry D1 was shite
- some awkward interactions with shape
- that N2 thing were I was talking to HF, as if he still was my best town buddy forever. when grack jumped at me for that I really though I dun goofed.
Anyone else noticed some stuff I can/should improve upon?
You played well but now I know you actually put effort in as mafia it won't last
Things to note, you played just the right amount of activity you needed to. I gave you town reads because you were purely putting in more effort at looking through the game and possibilities than the majority of the thread. Playing as mafia is damn exhausting work and in order to conserve energy you just need to make sure you put enough energy in the game to look more constructive than 3/4 of the game, any more and it's suspicious why you're alive.
^ basically you played that great.
The only thing you need to do more is give less of a shit what looks towny and scummy, basically spam the crap out of the game and people won't remember your posts or care enough to look through your filter, I read the scum qt and you were caring far too much what you thought people thought of you  If it comes in your head to post just go ahead and post it, the more you fact check and alter it the more fabricated it will eventually look.
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Also, for anyone that cares, my charcuterie board was excellent last night.
Once, again, sorry for ruining the game, I'll try harder next time.
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what in the actual fuck scumformation????
damn man, great fucking job. would have never caught you. I don't remember your mafia meta being this active or detailed at all, you clearly broke meta as I suggested in obs qt.
"no way disformation is mafia, this game is over if he was."
at least I had the other two, but I would have lynched holyflare first. I would have wanted to see more discussion between hf and sicklucker if I was in mylo with you all but SL wasn't having any of it.
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Wow. 2 dumb fakeclaims by experienced players who should both know better.
What a game.
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On August 15 2016 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
I am very upset at people that used to post a lot but don't anymore btw, yeh I ruined the game and I take it entirely on my shoulders but it's not fun to play a game where 4/5 town players post 5 posts at deadline and don't care.
I think in general a lot of the community active in the last 2 years have just gotten busier, although Stutters had a legit issue - I hope you are feeling or getting better - who knows if he might have been able to be more active. Some of the newer players to TL though have had good showings as both alignments.
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On August 15 2016 07:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 07:09 disformation wrote:some notes on myself: i think that was much better than my last two scum games. still made a bunch of errors: - that entry D1 was shite
- some awkward interactions with shape
- that N2 thing were I was talking to HF, as if he still was my best town buddy forever. when grack jumped at me for that I really though I dun goofed.
Anyone else noticed some stuff I can/should improve upon? You played well but now I know you actually put effort in as mafia it won't last Things to note, you played just the right amount of activity you needed to. I gave you town reads because you were purely putting in more effort at looking through the game and possibilities than the majority of the thread. Playing as mafia is damn exhausting work and in order to conserve energy you just need to make sure you put enough energy in the game to look more constructive than 3/4 of the game, any more and it's suspicious why you're alive. ^ basically you played that great. The only thing you need to do more is give less of a shit what looks towny and scummy, basically spam the crap out of the game and people won't remember your posts or care enough to look through your filter, I read the scum qt and you were caring far too much what you thought people thought of you If it comes in your head to post just go ahead and post it, the more you fact check and alter it the more fabricated it will eventually look.
Thanks. <3
Yeah, game was already pretty exhausting with the time I put in. Prolly because I constantly had to check the thread in fear something had gone wrong. xD
I def, need to learn to chill more.
On August 15 2016 07:46 NocturneMage wrote:
what in the actual fuck scumformation????
damn man, great fucking job. would have never caught you. I don't remember your mafia meta being this active or detailed at all, you clearly broke meta as I suggested in obs qt.
"no way disformation is mafia, this game is over if he was."
at least I had the other two, but I would have lynched holyflare first. I would have wanted to see more discussion between hf and sicklucker if I was in mylo with you all but SL wasn't having any of it.
Ahahahahaahaa =D
<3
Yeah, some ppl were shutting down the discussion N2/D3 kinda hard. Not blaming them, was just a tad sad.
Problem I have now: I think I played pretty close to my town meta, so I fear I am going to get ML as town now. xD
Prolly have to step that up, too.
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On August 15 2016 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
I am very upset at people that used to post a lot but don't anymore btw, yeh I ruined the game and I take it entirely on my shoulders but it's not fun to play a game where 4/5 town players post 5 posts at deadline and don't care. I think in general a lot of the community active in the last 2 years have just gotten busier, although Stutters had a legit issue - I hope you are feeling or getting better - who knows if he might have been able to be more active. Some of the newer players to TL though have had good showings as both alignments.
I doubt this was directed at stutters. He has always been a very low volume poster.
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weakest mafia team to ever win a game probably =[ literally had to do nothing
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On August 15 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
weakest mafia team to ever win a game probably =[ literally had to do nothing
I still don't know what this meta read is about. Did you think I would only push Kushm4sta as mafia?
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On August 15 2016 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
I am very upset at people that used to post a lot but don't anymore btw, yeh I ruined the game and I take it entirely on my shoulders but it's not fun to play a game where 4/5 town players post 5 posts at deadline and don't care.
I can only be called mafia so much by a seemingly fake claiming cop before I just afk lynch said person
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AINT EVEN MAD. you completely put me in a spot where I had to lynch you. would do it everytime. If you didnt tunnel me im the kind of person who can figure stuff like that out. BUt your reads just seemed so made up and opportunistic. Like slips are not acualy a thing but that was all I read in your posts untill I stopped reading them
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On August 15 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
weakest mafia team to ever win a game probably =[ literally had to do nothing
I really do not think you are giving them enough credit. Things they did right:
(1) Shapelog's blue snipe on Tumblewood was beautiful, Tumble was NKed solely because he was blue. He had a blue meta read on him. Couldn't determine investigation or protective but he knew he was blue.
(2) disformation broke meta by upping the activity massively. Maybe you never played with him but as mafia, he lurks hard and really falls off. He also poked holes in town's cases and put himself out there at greater risk to draw attention.
(3) Shapelog mixed his "quality" posts with just enough spam that enough people didn't want to read his posts or at least not critically. I was thinking enough people would catch on to him but this was not the case.
(4) Presence matters. Scum had ~50% of the total posts in this forum. They were able to influence the thread or dispel suspicions and even better disassociate from each other. (scum qt reference: shapelog was looking to divide the town days 2 and 3 to distance himself from the other two.)
No doubt town had their share of muckups but that blue snipe night one made a difference.
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On August 15 2016 08:30 sicklucker wrote:
AINT EVEN MAD. you completely put me in a spot where I had to lynch you. would do it everytime. If you didnt tunnel me im the kind of person who can figure stuff like that out. BUt your reads just seemed so made up and opportunistic. Like slips are not acualy a thing but that was all I read in your posts untill I stopped reading them
Wow you lynched the town cop, you suck.
Just trying to protect the people from bad things and I get lynched. I bet this is how Harambe felt.
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