Also, add to the Skynx stuff what JRoc said: if he knew that Moosy was being modkilled for inactivity, then he desperately needed to not get Lunatic lynched. Pretending a tunnel on Silent in a situation feels like the exact measure scum would take. If I die this night, insta-lynch Skynx. I cannot stress this enough right now.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

August 09 2016 21:18 GMT

#1165

Im im the hospital. Daughter had accident. I concede the game im last scum.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

August 09 2016 21:48 GMT

#1181

We will be in the Hospital for the next few days. She Hit her head hard when she slipped and fell in swimming hall. Shes not in danger. Thanks for the kind thoughts and words. Sorry

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

August 10 2016 05:46 GMT

#1211

On August 10 2016 08:26 Half the Sky wrote:

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On August 10 2016 06:55 Rels wrote:
Since it's a newbie game, here is a little bit of coaching time. During late D2 / N2 I thought BTDT was auto-mafia and here is why.

During D2 before the last 1h30, Lunatic was looking to be the lynch 100%. So of course he's gonna get bussed. That means it was a good opportunity to see how people reacted to that lynch.
People that took the time to think about stuff instead of being sheeps were likely town: silent, Celestial, Skynx.
People that were kinda useless and just sheeped were potential scum: JRoc, Moosy, scott.
People that wrote that post was 95% scum:

On August 05 2016 02:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Having read your post, I find it highly interesting that you get me into a connection with Lunatic, given that I voted him D1 and didnt stop to bring him up to people's conciousness again and again.

Youre relucting to vote Lunatic or at least I take that from your wording. Why? Also, I feel like youre wrong on scott, he's in my town circle. He's fairly actice, pushy, and I can see where most of his reads come from.

I actually let go of my town lean of you. If Lunatic flips red, I can easily see you bussing here to gain towncred. I am also a bit paranoid about a scott, you and lunatic team but for now the only reason to add Scott to that list is the pterequisite that you are scum, so its highly associative.

Makes sense though. I am still having headaches from MoosyDoosy, too. But yeah.

This day should end with a Lunatic lynch. If Kelsier survives the night, He should be the lynch next day. We'll most likely loose Rels as uncced vig though so Kelsier surviving should be NAI... but yeah hes not contributing at all although he WAS in the thread.

BTDT didn't try to find any reason for Lunatic to be scum during D2; but he's voting him and is already treating Lunatic as super likely to flip scum + drawing teams about that fact.
To expand, here is what BTDT could do in this position:
Town motivated: Looking ot see IF Lunatic is really scum (like silent / Celestial / me) OR try to find people more likely to flip scum than Lunatic (like Skynx).
Scum motivated: See the Lunatic's scum flip as unstoppable and prepare the post-lynch by drawing associations with other people.
BTDT did the scum motivated thing here.
I should have explained it better before getting killed but seeing as everybody was scumreading BTDT when I was still alive, I did not think it was necessary. Should have done that. We definitely would have lost without that Moosy modkill, and even with it it would have been a close game.

100%

It was looking like a "finish the bottle" (read: endgame) situation after Luna got town to perpetual mylo but I started to panic when under 20 minutes Moosy still hadn't voted and I'm like noooooooooooooooooooooooo.

BTDT was poor from the votes, and I was also waiting for someone to do detailed VC but that didn't happen.

I wanted to bring vca for d1 because if silent lynched town,I was last one outside of two town wagons and when I saw this l didnt dare. Im reading because after tje panic everything is good now and tbh Hospital gets boring. She sleeps a lot thank god

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

August 10 2016 15:38 GMT

#1227

Okay. I'm back home on a computer. My daughter is still in the hospital but her mum's with her and she's doing fine.

Yesterday when we were swimming, she fell pretty hard on the back of her head, and later when she was in bed, she started puking, so we decided to go to the hospital because we feared a concussion. And indeed, doctors said she has a minor concussion and they wanted to keep her for 48 hours as a routine. She puked once more through the night but after that, all was fine. I didn't get to sleep much for several reasons, the machines running in the room were loud and woke me up regularly (although my daughter slept all throughout the night without disturbance) and I was highly worried about her since it was the first hospital stay I've ever had with my child (well, besides birth).

However today she already felt much better and doctors said she's doing great. No fever, no high/low blood pressure, good reactions to light and so on, so yeah, another stay at night for her. Mum took over an hour ago and I'm finally home.

I feel exhausted as fuck but I want to join in the post-game discussion.

First off, the hosting. I want to start with a big thank you to the hosts for the effort that was put in. On the other hand, there are some points that I want to raise as I did not like them:

The vote counts were rather bad. Although the game was going slowly, I felt like there were so few vote counts that I asked myself if the hosts were even bothering about the game.

Host questions such as the one I imposed were not answered, not even mentioned.

EoD/EoNs were treated very lackluster and weren't on time.

As a solution for that, I suggest to include one or two more co-hosts to the game with differing timezones.

Regarding the game:
I feel like I over-bussed. I started D1 with putting shade on Luna already, also Moosy. My goal was to play as a standalone scummer, also since I felt like we wouldn't have much coordination given we had MoosyDoosy on the team who, to me, is a rather unreliant teammate. His modkill even confirmed that theory and I will be very carefully making the decision if I ever join a game with him again.

The general inactivity level was poor and I have to admit that I played part in that. I didn't post too much too, although I was heavily reading via mobile. I decided to not do anything around EoD1 since I knew we had town trains only. D2, I wanted to start leading town a bit but didn't manage to pull up the motivation to even try.

After the modkill/warning spree that introduced the endgame, I really felt motivated to do stuff though. I knew that Celestial had already started to un-scumread me so I put in heavy effort. I knew that Celest, who's a high volume poster on his own, would take that as a town indicator so I felt kinda save leaving him alive. Killing Skynx over Celest/Silent was a choice that I made after having a skype discussion with my coach, Artanis. Kudos and a big thank you to Artanis at this point. Killing Skynx over Celest wouldn't make any sense as scum and I highly hoped people would take the Skynx kill as a tinfoil Celestscum move, or as a scott/jroc kill.

Well. I'm not sure if I could've taken the win. But given that Celestial would've been my next kill and LYLO would've been Silent/Jroc or Scott, I think my chances were actually quite decent.

I won't sign up to a game with Kelsier though. General activity level was terrible anyways.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

August 10 2016 21:36 GMT

#1237

On August 11 2016 05:36 kitaman27 wrote:

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On both day one and day two there were six different vote counts and on each day there were counts during the final hour of the cycle. On day three there was only a single count, but there was essentially a claimed mafia and 4 out of the 8 players forgot to vote. Frankly that seems pretty reasonable to me.

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I can't speak for shape on this one, but I never received any PMs from you so I'm not quite sure what you are referring to.

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There was 1 post that was 90 minutes late because shape lost power and I wasn't aware immediately, so apologies for that, but otherwise the other six day/night posts were pretty much on time. An extra co-host would probably help in that regard, but it's a pretty rare situation.

I guess you can criticize the lack of flavor text, but that's going to vary from game to game.

Hm. You're right. Still, I leave the game with a weird feeling towards hosting.