Newbie Student Mafia XXII - Page 3

On August 05 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:

Have you read the thread ?

On August 05 2016 06:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I wouldn't mind a btdt shenannie though jsut because there has to be a Mafia on Race Bannon train and only real viable option is btdt. check my filter for the case I made against him.

On August 05 2016 06:59 silentwarrior wrote:

If you are town, you should post as much as possible, to show us your views.

On August 05 2016 07:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Cool I'm the veteran. L8

On August 05 2016 07:05 Rels wrote:
OK that will get solved at some point.
##Unvote
##Vote BTDT

On August 05 2016 07:07 Lunaticman wrote:


Really your going to believe that?

On August 05 2016 07:08 -Celestial- wrote:


It does kinda align with how he's been so "IDGAF" about the whole game.

More to the point do you want to risk lynching an un-ccd blue?

On August 05 2016 07:10 Rels wrote:


That is 100% wrong. On the contrary. Having an "instant confirmed" button makes it so that you put way less effort into the game.

On August 05 2016 07:15 Rels wrote:

so what
The goal of the game is to lynch SCUM not baddies

On August 05 2016 07:28 silentwarrior wrote:


This is the only thing making me doubt Lunatics blue claim. Plus the fact that he was ready to accept his fate before, knowing he could claim. Shit, I'm not sure of anything right now, but we do have one other lynch, and mafia is obviosly either Lunatic or KSC, so we will atleast get one of them.

On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:
Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though.

But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC



So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us.



Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post.
I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do.
##vote Kelsier SC

Ok, so thought I should give you my general reads on everyone and also a little to clarify my position on Kelsier.

Stutters695:
I'm pretty sure stutters is mafia. He begins with basically calling out Race and wanting to lynch him. A little too easy tbh, but still nothing suspect about that since Race was spamming hard at that point. But then, basically the only thing he does is ask others opinions and adding nothing himself. He then says he would prefer to lynch a lurker, and if not a lurker then grack, for which his reasoning is only 2 sentences. Then goes on to agree with other people and asking questions adding nothing himself. But then, contrary to his position before on lynching a lurker, minutes after celestial votes for me he places his vote on me as well. At this point he hasn't said a word about me at all and the only thing he says about the vote is "this guy gets it" about celestials vote on me. He basically only votes for me because celestials does. That's what it looks like, because he gave no indication that he thought I was mafia before. Certainly not enough to warrant a vote on me. You guys should really take a look at his filter.

Kelsier:
I don't know what to think about him anymore. My first post about him was partly to get him to actually post more so I could get a better read on him. At that time, he didn't want to post because there wasn't anything "good" in thread yet. But then, when thread gets some content he comes in and basically says this game is "terrible" and still won't post anything at all about his views about the game. What possible reason was there to not post then? Or after, because he still hasn't said anthing for a while. Right now I'm leaning scum on him.

Celestial:
I liked his big post. I obviously disagree with him about me but his post definetly shows that he is out to analyze us and hunt mafia. I agree with him on some stuff there. But I think he confuses opinions he dosen't like being equal to mafia. He does this to me, since his main reason against me is that he disagrees with me and that is the reason he votes to lynch me. He also gives people towncred for being against me for the same reason. I'm still leaning town on him though.

Scott/Race: On Race actions, I admit I was wrong. I thought it was just early game posting to get people to talk. But he was just a spammer. On scott however I think he is town. His entry post to me seems very town-like. He immedietly accuses 4 people of scum. To me, mafia are more careful and I can't see them coming in and doing that during first posts. Granted, you can fake being careless, but what reason would mafia have to get on 4 people's bad side for calling them mafia? He is townlean for me.

beentheredonethat:
This guy seems like a newbie to me. People have mentioned his post about lynching Race before replacement, but I don't think it was really that alignment indictive honestly. He seems generally a little clumsy in his posts. His vote on Lunatic didn't have that much content. Mostly it was meta and the fact that lunatic wasn't pushing anyone. He is null to me right now.

I will post more about the rest of the players too, but wanted to get this out here first.
##Unvote
##Vote: Stutters695

On August 06 2016 04:03 -Celestial- wrote:


Next we're lynching Lunatic since he effectively claimed scum with his cc leading to the mislynch.

If you don't lynch Lunatic tomorrow you're pretty much claiming scum yourself.


Also Rels already posted his last will here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25917038

Summary: He wants Lunatic then BTDT. Then between Moosy and J Roc.


Personally I'd rather lynch Lunatic then you. But I'll probably have another look at Rels' argument for reading you town in the next few days. Got plenty of time because we got the rest of this night, then all of D3. Then N3 and only then do we have to actually start deciding where to go next (because we're lynching Lunatic tomorrow, full stop).

On August 06 2016 09:59 -Celestial- wrote:
And apparently nobody's around to talk. Despite the fact one mislynch will kill us and we've just lost Rels. Everyone buggers off.

Great.

On August 06 2016 19:40 silentwarrior wrote:


Why did you counterclaim a blue though if you are town. That's the stupidest thing you can do, I even said so that day.

On August 06 2016 19:41 silentwarrior wrote:


Not that I believe for one second that you are town.

On August 06 2016 19:40 silentwarrior wrote:


Why did you counterclaim a blue though if you are town. That's the stupidest thing you can do, I even said so that day.

On August 07 2016 00:11 -Celestial- wrote:
Yeah, no. Sorry Lunatic but there is virtually no way you are town here. After that play you're not getting anything but scumread especially considering said play wiped out the last mislynch chance we had and killed an actual blue.

There is probably somewhere south of a 1% chance of you actually being town here. And that's being VERY generous. You're an auto-target at this point.


On a side note I'd like to point out that scott is still nowhere to be seen. With a filter consisting of literally of around two dozen posts in the entire game. And in the last eight posts he's said no less than three times he is going to give some reads or be around for discussion or whatever. And then just hasn't.



After which he made two posts, which are frankly stretching the definition of "discuss". One going "nice find" to the vote-count thing Moosy led me to. The other asking Rels if he's "run out of energy".

Then:


This was the car accident post. So its a bit more understandable that he doesn't follow up on this when he said he would.

Then a post about how he's skimmed the thread and will leave a vote.

Then:


That was twenty hours ago, so rapidly approaching a full day, with no follow up. Not even a "whoops I didn't get time".


I'd like to reiterate that scott is doing literally jack all, his earlier posts are questionable at BEST, and despite all of that people are heavily townreading him for that and some vote indicators.

But I've been banging this drum for a while now and a bunch of people are flat out ignoring it, yet are apparently totally unable to explain it away. Wake the hell up, everyone.