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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:26 GMT
#359
##Vote: Lunaticman
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:32 GMT
#361
On August 02 2016 03:29 Stutters695 wrote:
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On August 02 2016 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 03:11 Stutters695 wrote:
As far as actives go, Grack definitely seems like the best lynch. His thought process doesn't flow with a townie trying to find scum, yet he had been making substantially more effort for being so iffy about the game.

Care to explain? And I am making effort but the game is impossible when nobody posts.

You have two pages of filter, but not a single lynch candidate. What are you making an effort towards, because it doesn't seem to be finding scum.

When it seemed like nothing useful was being posted I really did try to further the game with my bait post. I can't do anything when the majority of the thread has a one page filter and has spent that page talking about Race Bannon. I do like this Lunatic stuff though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:44 GMT
#366
There's nothing here I can respond to. Stutters, you have only given one read so far this game and it's on me for not having found scum in this 19 page game. I don't think this is reasonable, especially considering I've been one of the only people here in thread actually trying. I'd like you to go back into the thread from before where I posted my list of lynch targets and come up with detailed scum reads.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:45 GMT
#368
Otherwise, you're my vote for the day.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:53 GMT
#372
On August 02 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote:
Anyway 1st things 1st, mderg, stutters, KSC and jroc pls move away from Scott there is no way he is scum, thank you.

We aren't lynching Rels either though. What's the point? If he's town eventually he's going to come in and make a bunch of good posts and get night killed and if he's scum we can deal with him later.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:55 GMT
#376
On August 02 2016 03:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On August 02 2016 03:45 Skynx wrote:
Welp i take that back, seems like Grack agrees with your points.

Yep. Which makes him scummy even more. Fine with both.

That doesn't make any sense.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:56 GMT
#377
On August 02 2016 03:55 Stutters695 wrote:
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On August 02 2016 03:44 Grackaroni wrote:
There's nothing here I can respond to. Stutters, you have only given one read so far this game and it's on me for not having found scum in this 19 page game. I don't think this is reasonable, especially considering I've been one of the only people here in thread actually trying. I'd like you to go back into the thread from before where I posted my list of lynch targets and come up with detailed scum reads.


OMGUS lol.

Anyway, let's start small. Would you rather lynch a lurker or someone active?

Since you completely ignored my perfectly reasonable request and answered with some inflammatory nonsense, I'll start with you.

##Vote: Stutters.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 19:01 GMT
#380
On August 02 2016 03:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 03:55 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 03:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 02 2016 03:45 Skynx wrote:
Welp i take that back, seems like Grack agrees with your points.

Yep. Which makes him scummy even more. Fine with both.

That doesn't make any sense.

"Fine with both" means "Fine with Lunatic or Greck being the lynch."

Elaborating: I agree with Skynx' posts on the "not tvtt" scenario. While he thinks its not so likely anymore (or at least that's how I interpret his post) I still think it holds up and you're the scum in the tvst scenario. Your posts are so lackluster in terms of actual content and I absolutely do not like that. Who are your top scum reads? Why?

Yeah exactly. How does voting the person you think is scum make me "scummy even more."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 19:02 GMT
#382
On August 02 2016 04:00 Skynx wrote:
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On August 02 2016 03:55 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote:
Anyway 1st things 1st, mderg, stutters, KSC and jroc pls move away from Scott there is no way he is scum, thank you.

What makes you so sure about that?

1: RB kept trolling when roles piled up on him. While scum may not panic sometimes, he definitely didn't look like he gave two fucks if he died right then.
2: Scott had a nice entry
3: You guys are just voting to shut him up, now regardless of alignment its a different player who is at least putting effor in the game.

This is pretty much how I've felt all game on this but expressed a lot more clearly.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 19:03 GMT
#385
Last game Rels actually did go away for the weekend. It wasn't a scum strategy from him to disappear.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 19:08 GMT
#390
On August 02 2016 04:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Grack is 75% likely to be scum. He has no actual reads and when he does vote someone, it's never from demonstrating a scum mindset.

I'm not sold on lunatic. He's had a hard time establishing reads, but that's more expected from a new player.

pot to kettle, what color are you? You've posted about one player in this game, me. You still haven't demonstrated how I've failed to show a townie mindset. That's just buzzwords.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 19:15 GMT
#393
On August 02 2016 04:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Grack is 75% likely to be scum. He has no actual reads and when he does vote someone, it's never from demonstrating a scum mindset.

I'm not sold on lunatic. He's had a hard time establishing reads, but that's more expected from a new player.

And this isn't actually accurate either. Lunatic has a scum read on Kelsier for his opening post. I didn't because I didn't think there was anything alignment indicative there. Now somehow the lack of content is somehow falling on me. I won't make reads out of nothing.

However, I've actually posted some pretty good points on Lunatic. The only post I've liked from Luna so far is his Kelsier post where he seemed really confident that Kelsier was mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 19:29 GMT
#399
On August 02 2016 04:21 Lunaticman wrote:
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On August 02 2016 04:15 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Grack is 75% likely to be scum. He has no actual reads and when he does vote someone, it's never from demonstrating a scum mindset.

I'm not sold on lunatic. He's had a hard time establishing reads, but that's more expected from a new player.

And this isn't actually accurate either. Lunatic has a scum read on Kelsier for his opening post. I didn't because I didn't think there was anything alignment indicative there. Now somehow the lack of content is somehow falling on me. I won't make reads out of nothing.

However, I've actually posted some pretty good points on Lunatic. The only post I've liked from Luna so far is his Kelsier post where he seemed really confident that Kelsier was mafia.


Also I said early that I would try to post less to appease some of the other players. If you are going that route we should lynch rels.

The difference is that I know Rels isn't afraid to post as mafia and is just afk regardless of role. I don't know whether you are posting less because you rolled mafia or because you are trying to reshape your play.

My main concern is that most of your time has been spent analyzing me, and yet your response to Celestial, who posted a bunch of reasons for why he thought I was scum, was just a bunch of praise for a long post and a town read. Why weren't you interested in any of the points he actually made?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 19:50 GMT
#409
On August 02 2016 04:38 Stutters695 wrote:
As far as I can tell your only real point against him is he's not super active and didn't comment on celestial's post regarding you. He did say he was leaning town on you which implies he at least disagreed with it.

He might be scum but your points are a stretch, it'll become more apparent in time and I'm not convinced enough to lynch him over someone who is barely posting when that's half the game.

We have two players with long filters for this game skynx/Luna voting for somebody afk.
We have a bunch of other people who have posted close to nothing worth commenting on.

With this in mind, how exactly is your push on me not completely horrible? Now add in the fact that you are unwilling to contribute anything else besides this. Why shouldn't I vote you?

I was going to write something on Lunatic but I'm going to go reread the start of his filter from the last game first.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 20:04 GMT
#414
On August 02 2016 04:55 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 04:50 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:38 Stutters695 wrote:
As far as I can tell your only real point against him is he's not super active and didn't comment on celestial's post regarding you. He did say he was leaning town on you which implies he at least disagreed with it.

He might be scum but your points are a stretch, it'll become more apparent in time and I'm not convinced enough to lynch him over someone who is barely posting when that's half the game.

We have two players with long filters for this game skynx/Luna voting for somebody afk.
We have a bunch of other people who have posted close to nothing worth commenting on.

With this in mind, how exactly is your push on me not completely horrible? Now add in the fact that you are unwilling to contribute anything else besides this. Why shouldn't I vote you?

I was going to write something on Lunatic but I'm going to go reread the start of his filter from the last game first.


I don't get why you get to call me out on my previous games but I can't do it to rels or you, thats super scummy. And also why am I scummy for not posting "enough" while you say I have the longest filter with skynx. What is your read on skynx anyway?

I'm might just flip the thread before I sleep.

You can call me or Rels or whoever out for previous play. I just feel pretty strongly that Rels not being here isn't indicative of anything. Your post count day 1 from the last game was absolutely insane. Having a 2 page filter in this game isn't much of a feat, but I do think it's relevant if Stutters is going to call me out in the way that he did. This game you said you don't want to be misinterpreted so you're going to post less, and you got really excited when Celestial posted so of course you knew that town is in desperate need of content. It kind of seems like you're putting your own survival ahead of the town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 20:04 GMT
#415
Rels my reads suck. Please help lol.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 21:30 GMT
#451
I would be down with lynching Mderg.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 21:51 GMT
#464
On August 02 2016 05:13 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 04:50 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:38 Stutters695 wrote:
As far as I can tell your only real point against him is he's not super active and didn't comment on celestial's post regarding you. He did say he was leaning town on you which implies he at least disagreed with it.

He might be scum but your points are a stretch, it'll become more apparent in time and I'm not convinced enough to lynch him over someone who is barely posting when that's half the game.

We have two players with long filters for this game skynx/Luna voting for somebody afk.
We have a bunch of other people who have posted close to nothing worth commenting on.

With this in mind, how exactly is your push on me not completely horrible? Now add in the fact that you are unwilling to contribute anything else besides this. Why shouldn't I vote you?

I was going to write something on Lunatic but I'm going to go reread the start of his filter from the last game first.


I'm done with pushing you until after the lynch. Downside to missing most of d1 and not having the time to throw up a large post from mobile.

If you missed most of day1 why would you push me like this? If I missed most of day 1 I'd at least show some caution with my reads rather than barge in with a 75% certain scum read like you did.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 22:01 GMT
#470
On August 02 2016 06:56 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 05:13 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:50 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:38 Stutters695 wrote:
As far as I can tell your only real point against him is he's not super active and didn't comment on celestial's post regarding you. He did say he was leaning town on you which implies he at least disagreed with it.

He might be scum but your points are a stretch, it'll become more apparent in time and I'm not convinced enough to lynch him over someone who is barely posting when that's half the game.

We have two players with long filters for this game skynx/Luna voting for somebody afk.
We have a bunch of other people who have posted close to nothing worth commenting on.

With this in mind, how exactly is your push on me not completely horrible? Now add in the fact that you are unwilling to contribute anything else besides this. Why shouldn't I vote you?

I was going to write something on Lunatic but I'm going to go reread the start of his filter from the last game first.


I'm done with pushing you until after the lynch. Downside to missing most of d1 and not having the time to throw up a large post from mobile.

If you missed most of day1 why would you push me like this? If I missed most of day 1 I'd at least show some caution with my reads rather than barge in with a 75% certain scum read like you did.

Neither of us are getting lynched today, so let's focus on determining who is the best lynch. We have one hour until the lynch. I don't doubt my read, but I don't have the thread presence to make this happen.

What did you think about silent's return post and voting for me?

I'm already voted for Mderg. Silent's post looks fine to me, what's your issue with it?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 22:32 GMT
#483
On August 02 2016 07:15 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 07:01 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 05:13 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:50 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:38 Stutters695 wrote:
As far as I can tell your only real point against him is he's not super active and didn't comment on celestial's post regarding you. He did say he was leaning town on you which implies he at least disagreed with it.

He might be scum but your points are a stretch, it'll become more apparent in time and I'm not convinced enough to lynch him over someone who is barely posting when that's half the game.

We have two players with long filters for this game skynx/Luna voting for somebody afk.
We have a bunch of other people who have posted close to nothing worth commenting on.

With this in mind, how exactly is your push on me not completely horrible? Now add in the fact that you are unwilling to contribute anything else besides this. Why shouldn't I vote you?

I was going to write something on Lunatic but I'm going to go reread the start of his filter from the last game first.


I'm done with pushing you until after the lynch. Downside to missing most of d1 and not having the time to throw up a large post from mobile.

If you missed most of day1 why would you push me like this? If I missed most of day 1 I'd at least show some caution with my reads rather than barge in with a 75% certain scum read like you did.

Neither of us are getting lynched today, so let's focus on determining who is the best lynch. We have one hour until the lynch. I don't doubt my read, but I don't have the thread presence to make this happen.

What did you think about silent's return post and voting for me?

I'm already voted for Mderg. Silent's post looks fine to me, what's your issue with it?


It shows either a general lack of disinterest(not following along) or an inability to make actual reads.
1) blatant misunderstanding/misrepresentation in his case on me.

2) his point on Scott again shows how little attention he is actually paying. He didn't immediately accuse 4 people of being scum, he said he'd expect to find scum on the wagon and would thus look into them.

3) his scum reads don't show a lot of thought in them while his town reads do. When I first rolled mafia it was incredibly hard to give scum reads with any sort of genuine belief when you know they're town. Bussing and town reads are much easier to give. I'm getting those vibes hard from his comeback post and his lynch gives much more info than a lynch on mderg.

I reread him and I don't really agree with your conclusion.

1)He's voting you because he thought your case on me was weak and he didn't like that you voted him when you had never mentioned him before. I don't see the misrepresentation.

2) it's not a bad post really. Scott did kind of did accuse all 4 at the start and then choose which one was the scummiest from the four. I think it is at least worth considering.

3) For day 1, I think that's what I would expect. I think the first coaching advice I ever got was that if you're just able to leave day 1 with some strong town reads you're in good shape. Day 1 lynches tend to be hit or miss and this game especially has been bleh.
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