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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 19:45 GMT
#407
On August 02 2016 04:43 -Celestial- wrote:
Also at this rate any VCA is going to be utterly useless...especially if the lynch ends up being scott. -_-

I don't think scott will be lynched here
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 21:00 GMT
#438
On August 02 2016 05:37 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 04:02 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:00 Skynx wrote:
On August 02 2016 03:55 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote:
Anyway 1st things 1st, mderg, stutters, KSC and jroc pls move away from Scott there is no way he is scum, thank you.

What makes you so sure about that?

1: RB kept trolling when roles piled up on him. While scum may not panic sometimes, he definitely didn't look like he gave two fucks if he died right then.
2: Scott had a nice entry
3: You guys are just voting to shut him up, now regardless of alignment its a different player who is at least putting effor in the game.

1. I agree
2. I don't think so. In my opinion his entry was pretty bad
3. No, for me at least.

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On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.

##vote Race Bannon

Hmm actually thats quite bad. Bunch of other stuff not really saying much.
He also likes my comment saying RB is a lazy scumread.
Like as inconsistent as it gets.

Pls explain to me how you're not misrepresentting things. Originally I put my vote on RB because I didn't want to deal with his shit, yes. But if you don't see why I'm voting scott, you should probably reread some things.
I also don't remember saying RB is a lazy scumread.

Get your facts straight before you spout some bs about what I have and haven't said in this game.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 21:03 GMT
#441
On August 02 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg

what makes you think so?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 21:24 GMT
#448
On August 02 2016 06:15 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 06:03 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg

what makes you think so?

Several things.
First, your entire game is centered around RB, then scott. It's just so easy to talk about him right ? But this post is fucking bullshit:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 02:53 mderg wrote:
I guess this replacement prevents the plynch discussion that I hoped would give us some information...

I don't believe this for one second. Your voting post is pretty well explained for a "trap":
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.

##vote Race Bannon

And there WERE some reactions to RB spamming + replacement, and you just didn't seem interested in looking for them.

Second, this post is also bullshit:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 04:32 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:20 -Celestial- wrote:
Also at present:
- silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier
- Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity

Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day?

Now that you mention it, silent is someone I could get behind lynching today. Didn't like his opening and he didn't do anything since then.

"Now thazt you mention it" ? The only thing you've extensively talk about apart from RB / scott was how silent's posts were bad. Your scott read is also based party on that:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 31 2016 21:26 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 21:10 silentwarrior wrote:
Well, early posting helps makes other post. We are posting because of him now, aren't we? It helps discussion going, but I agree that now that early game is over he should start getting serious. Hopefully he will start writing constructive stuff from here on.

Kelsier on the other hand said outright that he could post but wouldn't because nothing "reasonable had been posted". But he dosen't post anything at all and says he will even wait. To me that seems a lot more suspicous than posting nonsense. Remember, we are here to lynch mafia not people we don't like. That makes my vote much better than Kelsier. Not to mention it puts pressure on him to not just "see us in a few days" but actually post during this time.

Also, I never said that I wouldn't vote for Race given reason(even said I had no problem with Kelsier voting for him). I didn't vote for Kelsier because he didn't post, I voted for him because he could post but said he wouldn't and instead wait to see what others posted. You have to agree that's kind of suspicous, right?

I don't like your reasoning. What Kelsier did was so obvously suspicious that it doesn't really say much. It points much more towards lazy/annoyed than any alignment.

On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Completely agree with the stuff about silentwarrior calling out Kelsier. Every proper townie should dislike what Kelsier did. But that doesn't make Kelsier scum, making such a big deal out of it doesn't feel right when you think about it a bit.

[...]

Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now.

On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post.

On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town".



Third, you repeated your scott reasonning several times like a machine, and it's full of words like "superficial" that don't mean anything but looks cool. Standard scum reads. All your reads are like that.

Fourth, I just don't like your tone. Scummy posts ahead:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.

##vote Race Bannon

On August 01 2016 02:56 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:
On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post:
On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:
Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though.

But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC

On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted.


So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us.

On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game

##vote Race Bannon

See you all in a few days


Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post.
I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do.
##vote Kelsier SC


I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone.
I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak.

Yeah, it's a lazy scumread

On August 01 2016 06:00 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote:
game starting again cool. Hi i'm town


So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like:

"hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town".

It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh.


Why are you talking about a bus attempt? Do you know Race Bannon's alignment?

On August 01 2016 06:45 mderg wrote:
Do something to change that


These are all posts that look like you're trying to hard to be useful. But aren't useful.

I never said that I started some policy lynch discussion so we could get some information out of it. I was just a bit disappointed that pretty much the only ting that actually got people to do stuff was shut off because of the replacement. No ulterior motive, just some disappointment.

The "Now that you mention it" was more of a "Oh, I've forgot he is actually a possible lynch target".

Why did I call scott's reasoning superficial? Because it was superficial.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 21:34 GMT
#455
On August 02 2016 06:24 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 06:15 Rels wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:03 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg

what makes you think so?

Several things.
First, your entire game is centered around RB, then scott. It's just so easy to talk about him right ? But this post is fucking bullshit:
On August 01 2016 02:53 mderg wrote:
I guess this replacement prevents the plynch discussion that I hoped would give us some information...

I don't believe this for one second. Your voting post is pretty well explained for a "trap":
On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.

##vote Race Bannon

And there WERE some reactions to RB spamming + replacement, and you just didn't seem interested in looking for them.

Second, this post is also bullshit:
On August 02 2016 04:32 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:20 -Celestial- wrote:
Also at present:
- silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier
- Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity

Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day?

Now that you mention it, silent is someone I could get behind lynching today. Didn't like his opening and he didn't do anything since then.

"Now thazt you mention it" ? The only thing you've extensively talk about apart from RB / scott was how silent's posts were bad. Your scott read is also based party on that:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 31 2016 21:26 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 21:10 silentwarrior wrote:
Well, early posting helps makes other post. We are posting because of him now, aren't we? It helps discussion going, but I agree that now that early game is over he should start getting serious. Hopefully he will start writing constructive stuff from here on.

Kelsier on the other hand said outright that he could post but wouldn't because nothing "reasonable had been posted". But he dosen't post anything at all and says he will even wait. To me that seems a lot more suspicous than posting nonsense. Remember, we are here to lynch mafia not people we don't like. That makes my vote much better than Kelsier. Not to mention it puts pressure on him to not just "see us in a few days" but actually post during this time.

Also, I never said that I wouldn't vote for Race given reason(even said I had no problem with Kelsier voting for him). I didn't vote for Kelsier because he didn't post, I voted for him because he could post but said he wouldn't and instead wait to see what others posted. You have to agree that's kind of suspicous, right?

I don't like your reasoning. What Kelsier did was so obvously suspicious that it doesn't really say much. It points much more towards lazy/annoyed than any alignment.

On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Completely agree with the stuff about silentwarrior calling out Kelsier. Every proper townie should dislike what Kelsier did. But that doesn't make Kelsier scum, making such a big deal out of it doesn't feel right when you think about it a bit.

[...]

Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now.

On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post.

On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town".



Third, you repeated your scott reasonning several times like a machine, and it's full of words like "superficial" that don't mean anything but looks cool. Standard scum reads. All your reads are like that.

Fourth, I just don't like your tone. Scummy posts ahead:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.

##vote Race Bannon

On August 01 2016 02:56 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:
On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post:
On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:
Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though.

But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC

On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted.


So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us.

On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game

##vote Race Bannon

See you all in a few days


Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post.
I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do.
##vote Kelsier SC


I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone.
I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak.

Yeah, it's a lazy scumread

On August 01 2016 06:00 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote:
game starting again cool. Hi i'm town


So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like:

"hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town".

It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh.


Why are you talking about a bus attempt? Do you know Race Bannon's alignment?

On August 01 2016 06:45 mderg wrote:
Do something to change that


These are all posts that look like you're trying to hard to be useful. But aren't useful.

I never said that I started some policy lynch discussion so we could get some information out of it. I was just a bit disappointed that pretty much the only ting that actually got people to do stuff was shut off because of the replacement. No ulterior motive, just some disappointment.

The "Now that you mention it" was more of a "Oh, I've forgot he is actually a possible lynch target".

Why did I call scott's reasoning superficial? Because it was superficial.

Addig to the "tone" points: I don't see how my posts were "trying to be useful". 2 Of those were simply because I was annoyed at stuff and one wasn't serious at all.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 21:39 GMT
#461
On August 02 2016 06:33 J Roc wrote:
I'm not lynching mderg. I agree with a lot of his reads.

You're saying a lot of my reads but there really weren't that many.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 22:29 GMT
#482
meh, I don't really feel anything about this shutters/silent stuff. Shutters' vote on silent is a bit edgy but I totally see why he'd vote silent.
I can also see why silent doesn't like the vote on him and sees shutters as scum. Strange situation.

putting my vote on silent because I want to save myself and see him as the only other realistic option.
##vote silentwarrior
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 22:52 GMT
#502
Well, shit. Didn't realize that would put me up for the lynch...

I'm open for any kind of shenannies, though I still think scott and silent would be the best chances of finding mafia.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 22:54 GMT
#504
On August 02 2016 07:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 07:49 Stutters695 wrote:
Scum doesn't hammer themselves. Just saying.

I don't think scum is less likely than town to do so. The discussion hasn't been on lynching Scott in ages so all we can assume is that Mderg thought a vote on Silent was the best chance of staying alive.

Why else would I change my vote to silent other than staying alive. I'm not stupid enough to play the "I'm hammering myself" card
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 22:57 GMT
#510
btw I'm fairly confident there's at least 1 mafia off wagon
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 22:58 GMT
#512
No shenannies happening?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 01 2016 22:59 GMT
#515

##vote KelsierSC


hoping for some last minute switches
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