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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 01 2016 15:48 GMT
#320
And btw, that is the obvious follow up question for any line of questioning any mafia player makes ever. -.-

I have my own reads, just let me work them out. Sometimes it's better to stay back and observe how things play out for the time being.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 01 2016 15:52 GMT
#321
For example, say I pose the question, throw shade on mderg through the process, but don't do anything with it for the rest of this day or for some time. After time passed, you bring it up and say "hey, this might be a sign of mafia asking questions for the sake of asking questions to appear like an active and engaged player" and then you can put pressure on me that way. And you can wait and see the answer that mderg gives and draw reads from it. As it is, you put me on high alert if I'm Mafia, you give mderg wiggle room if he's Mafia because you're putting pressure on me through the process, and generally messing with the line of questioning.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 00:44 GMT
#544
On August 02 2016 06:18 Stutters695 wrote:
Dear Grack/Silent: I'm not getting lynched, consider consolidating to someone who actually has a chance of getting lynched. Kthx

hahahahahaahahahahahaha
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 00:46 GMT
#545
On August 02 2016 07:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 06:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 05:13 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:50 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:38 Stutters695 wrote:
As far as I can tell your only real point against him is he's not super active and didn't comment on celestial's post regarding you. He did say he was leaning town on you which implies he at least disagreed with it.

He might be scum but your points are a stretch, it'll become more apparent in time and I'm not convinced enough to lynch him over someone who is barely posting when that's half the game.

We have two players with long filters for this game skynx/Luna voting for somebody afk.
We have a bunch of other people who have posted close to nothing worth commenting on.

With this in mind, how exactly is your push on me not completely horrible? Now add in the fact that you are unwilling to contribute anything else besides this. Why shouldn't I vote you?

I was going to write something on Lunatic but I'm going to go reread the start of his filter from the last game first.


I'm done with pushing you until after the lynch. Downside to missing most of d1 and not having the time to throw up a large post from mobile.

If you missed most of day1 why would you push me like this? If I missed most of day 1 I'd at least show some caution with my reads rather than barge in with a 75% certain scum read like you did.

Neither of us are getting lynched today, so let's focus on determining who is the best lynch. We have one hour until the lynch. I don't doubt my read, but I don't have the thread presence to make this happen.

What did you think about silent's return post and voting for me?

I'm already voted for Mderg. Silent's post looks fine to me, what's your issue with it?

hey man
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 00:46 GMT
#546
On August 02 2016 07:05 silentwarrior wrote:
Rels, what's your take on stutters and my case about him? I read yours on mderg and agree with most of what you wrote, but Stutter's is so blatantly mafia. Also, can others also comment on it?

sup to you as well
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 00:48 GMT
#547
On August 02 2016 07:45 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 07:40 silentwarrior wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:36 -Celestial- wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:35 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:03 Rels wrote:
Scum team is very likely to be in this pool:

mderg
Celestial / KSC / Stutters
BTDT

I'm seeing a lot of squirming within Rels' scum reads between celestial and stutters, so I would beg town to follow through on this mderg lynch.


If you think I'm scum, shenanie onto me right now. Because this game is silly as hell.

Incidentally, mderg just transferred the kill vote to himself I think. Though an updated count would be great to confirm.

Rules say most recent, so he was set from before his change. I think im the one that's set now. Im gonna vote mderg for that reason.

##Unvote
##Vote: Mderg



See above.

The votes went Scott on 3, then mderg hit 3, then you hit 3 when mderg switched and scott went to 2. Leaving mderg as the one as first in queue to be lynched. Now mderg is on 4.

That's the usual rule from when I used to play around here last year anyway.



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On August 02 2016 07:41 scott31337 wrote:
I really think a mderg lynch gives us a lot more information. It's curious you say this.


Honestly I agree with you. Stutters' reasoning is highly questionable on that point.

I think silent is a better chance of hitting mafia though.

hm
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 00:49 GMT
#549
On August 02 2016 07:49 Stutters695 wrote:
Scum doesn't hammer themselves. Just saying.

woah woah woah hold up there. I've tried to hammer myself as scum on basically every occasion dude.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 00:50 GMT
#551
On August 02 2016 08:09 Shapelog wrote:
Oh yeah,

Moosy has been warned for not voting. If he doesn't vote again, or does something illegal, he will get MK.

master overlord you are kind to let me live
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 00:50 GMT
#552
On August 02 2016 09:50 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 09:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
hm


Hmm?

And where the hell have you been?

hm.

I've been not in this thread.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 00:52 GMT
#554
On August 02 2016 09:51 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 09:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 02 2016 09:50 -Celestial- wrote:
On August 02 2016 09:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
hm


Hmm?

And where the hell have you been?

hm.

I've been not in this thread.


Evidently, given the lack of voting. -_-

yessir.

do you still think rels is in the red?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 00:57 GMT
#555
I also actually don't mind this D1 lynch at all. Good work Rels. And if I may ask old buddy, what's your read on me?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 01:03 GMT
#557
On August 02 2016 10:02 J Roc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 09:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I also actually don't mind this D1 lynch at all. Good work Rels. And if I may ask old buddy, what's your read on me?



Was a bad lynch, we should have lynched Scott.

Would you lynch me and Rels?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 01:14 GMT
#560
On August 02 2016 10:03 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 09:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 02 2016 09:51 -Celestial- wrote:
On August 02 2016 09:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 02 2016 09:50 -Celestial- wrote:
On August 02 2016 09:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
hm


Hmm?

And where the hell have you been?

hm.

I've been not in this thread.


Evidently, given the lack of voting. -_-

yessir.

do you still think rels is in the red?



More or less his entire contribution to the game so far has been to focus mderg, a now flipped town, like a laser and get him lynched. So yes, I'd be an idiot not to be incredibly suspicious of him. Though how much of it is just because I'm still pissed off about the vote is questionable.

I'll have a better idea tomorrow. I'm going to re-read his filter then. If I was to take a more measured approach I might say that Rels' focus on mderg left him absolutely zero wriggle room when mderg flipped town. Which is an incredibly risky position to put yourself in as a mafia. Not to mention the thread didn't really need driving in that way if he was mafia because it was all still very up in the air. But then again he did leave himself a bit of an out when he said he might just be super tunneled.

On the balance of it he looks awful post-flip. But WIFOM strikes again.

I'm hoping to be able to put together a full post of my thoughts by tomorrow anyway. Honestly concerned I could well be dead by Day 2. And right now I've had a bit too much wine to be properly coherent for something like that.

A fair amount of your bloodthirst for Rels is from the wrong D1 lynch, the fact that you changed your vote, and tbh probably the wine.

I have a soul read situation with Rels and I'm like 80% sure he's town right now.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 01:15 GMT
#561
On August 02 2016 10:12 J Roc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 10:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 02 2016 10:02 J Roc wrote:
On August 02 2016 09:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I also actually don't mind this D1 lynch at all. Good work Rels. And if I may ask old buddy, what's your read on me?



Was a bad lynch, we should have lynched Scott.

Would you lynch me and Rels?



Wouldn't lynch you at this point. Why would I? Rels needs to be looked at much harder because I disagreed with him on mderg but Scott is scum.

scott is scum for his reasoning behind his posts? Or is there anything else?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 01:19 GMT
#565
On August 02 2016 10:17 J Roc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 02 2016 10:12 J Roc wrote:
On August 02 2016 10:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 02 2016 10:02 J Roc wrote:
On August 02 2016 09:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I also actually don't mind this D1 lynch at all. Good work Rels. And if I may ask old buddy, what's your read on me?



Was a bad lynch, we should have lynched Scott.

Would you lynch me and Rels?



Wouldn't lynch you at this point. Why would I? Rels needs to be looked at much harder because I disagreed with him on mderg but Scott is scum.

scott is scum for his reasoning behind his posts? Or is there anything else?



The fact that he just fucked off and let the train happen without doing anything else is really suspicious also.

A lot of my reads align with scott.

On August 02 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 07:30 scott31337 wrote:
KelsierSC Mderg Stutters and BTDT

This list that scott posted right as he replaced is exactly my list at this point
Welcome my town bro

A lot of Rels' reads align with scott.

I also fucked off end of D1 and let the train happen. :D Thus a Moosy/Rels/scott scum team must be in your peripheral right?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 01:21 GMT
#566
Also scott is very much correct. There was 100% a mafia or two on Race Bannon at one point or another. The opportunity was too easy to pass up especially since RB was really really low hanging fruit. He was so low, he was basically on the ground. And this is coming from me who uses that playstyle normally.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 01:37 GMT
#574
On August 02 2016 10:23 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 10:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
A fair amount of your bloodthirst for Rels is from the wrong D1 lynch, the fact that you changed your vote, and tbh probably the wine.


Er...I didn't change my vote.


Show nested quote +
I have a soul read situation with Rels and I'm like 80% sure he's town right now.


Please don't do it like this. Come up with something better than a 'feeling' and explain how his actions were town.

Because this is almost literally what happened between a couple of people and prplhz in a previous game I played. In fact its weirding me out a bit where this is going right now. There was this big thing about how people were 'mind-melding' with him and heavily town reading him because of vague feelings; totally overlooking the fact that everything he had actually DONE amounted to jack all but being afk a bunch and then some harm to town. He turned out to be mafia.

Oops you're right. xP But the vote changed from your target and you didn't get who you wanted to kill.

Whether you like it or not, I've only been wrong on Rels once before.

On August 02 2016 10:32 J Roc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 10:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also scott is very much correct. There was 100% a mafia or two on Race Bannon at one point or another. The opportunity was too easy to pass up especially since RB was really really low hanging fruit. He was so low, he was basically on the ground. And this is coming from me who uses that playstyle normally.



Like seriousness. Nothing race bannon did was alignment indicative, nothing. So you can't say he was low hanging fruit like he was confirmed town. He can play like that as either alignment.

In the unlikely scenario he's mafia his team members ignore what he's doing and avoid him completely?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 01:37 GMT
#575
On August 02 2016 10:36 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 10:32 J Roc wrote:
On August 02 2016 10:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also scott is very much correct. There was 100% a mafia or two on Race Bannon at one point or another. The opportunity was too easy to pass up especially since RB was really really low hanging fruit. He was so low, he was basically on the ground. And this is coming from me who uses that playstyle normally.



Like seriousness. Nothing race bannon did was alignment indicative, nothing. So you can't say he was low hanging fruit like he was confirmed town. He can play like that as either alignment.



To be fair I don't think Moosy is necessarily implying Race was/scott is town. Race was low hanging fruit whichever alignment you were. If I was on his scum team and he was screwing about like that I'd be on that plynch train faster than you can say 'bus' because it was clear he wasn't going to be any help whichever alignment he was, and the free town points for a mafia kill would have been too much of a temptation to ignore.

wow man you ninja'd me by 54 seconds.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 01:39 GMT
#577
On August 02 2016 10:38 J Roc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 10:36 -Celestial- wrote:
On August 02 2016 10:32 J Roc wrote:
On August 02 2016 10:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also scott is very much correct. There was 100% a mafia or two on Race Bannon at one point or another. The opportunity was too easy to pass up especially since RB was really really low hanging fruit. He was so low, he was basically on the ground. And this is coming from me who uses that playstyle normally.



Like seriousness. Nothing race bannon did was alignment indicative, nothing. So you can't say he was low hanging fruit like he was confirmed town. He can play like that as either alignment.



To be fair I don't think Moosy is necessarily implying Race was/scott is town. Race was low hanging fruit whichever alignment you were. If I was on his scum team and he was screwing about like that I'd be on that plynch train faster than you can say 'bus' because it was clear he wasn't going to be any help whichever alignment he was, and the free town points for a mafia kill would have been too much of a temptation to ignore.



OK point taken. Still if I had to bet money I would bet on more scum on mderg than RB.

Congrats! Now who was on both wagons.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 01:58 GMT
#581
On August 02 2016 10:50 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 10:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Oops you're right. xP But the vote changed from your target and you didn't get who you wanted to kill.


I'm actually not too bothered about that specifically. My target was scummy enough to lynch but its not like I wasn't open to changing my mind, hell I explicitly asked for a convincing argument against mderg. My frustration mainly comes from that fact that as the deadline approached it became fairly blatant that there was no way mderg was going to flip mafia.

I mean, that accidental hammer on himself should have set EVERYONE'S alarm bells ringing.

Ultimately Rels came up with an argument that was okay at first glance but the more I looked at it and the more I looked at the way the thread was going as the deadline approached; something seemed off. And yet nobody else seemed to see it except Stutters.

For the record...I'll have to do a check on his filter but right now I'm feeling like I'm absolutely not interested in lynching Stutters D2 unless he suddenly goes horribly bad.



Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 10:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Congrats! Now who was on both wagons.


Unless I'm missing something then nobody? Final count was this:

Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 08:03 Shapelog wrote:
mderg (4): Grackaroni, scott31337, Rels, Grackaroni, Slientwarrior
scott31337 (1): KelsierSC, mderg, Stutters695, beentheredonethat, J Roc



I don't see any duplicates there. You going somewhere with this?

Yes! I'm just waiting until Rels come back to check something.
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