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On July 19 2016 14:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Hopefully koshi won't ruin this game as well
Challenge accepted.
/in
PS: I can out for anybody. I will also out if anybody sends me a PM to out. (that is in the game preferably or enters the game right behind me)
On July 19 2016 14:24 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2016 14:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Hopefully koshi won't ruin this game as well Shhhhhhhh lets not start with that
Don't mind Kush. He is the one sending me PMs after each ban to tell me I am right and the world is wrong.
PS2: so if anybody has any problem with me joining this game or playing this game, just send me a pm and I will leave. No hard feelings.
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So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time.
If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded.
In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group.
brb reading thread.
PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l).
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Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good.
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so good.
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On July 20 2016 21:26 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:10 Grackaroni wrote:
What kind of mistakes do you usually make as mafia? haha, I think I can summarise it as: TL:DR: I talk to much: Well I tend to contradict myself a lot the further the game goes since I am vocal player most of the time. This usually tends to get me lynched sooner or later as either alignment. If my radar is off the mafia tend to keep me alive or they execute me day one because I am good at converting votes either way i tend to add a lot of information for the more perceptive players. It his hard to self analyze that way as a mafia player but I think it usually comes down to people thinking I dominate conversations to much and get me on those contradictions when I no longer suit their needs. Especially if I make the town lynch to many townies in the process of my ramblings.
We might become friends. Or arch enemies. Lately I am making more of the latter.
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On July 20 2016 19:47 Rels wrote:
Something needs to be said right now.
We won't ever use the majority vote to end the day early. Barring things like a red check or a fakeclaim ofc.
Longer day is almost always a good thing. More time to solve the game, more time to hear what lynch candidates have to say, no risk of snap lynching a scummy townie that is just AFK.
If you're against that speak now then STFU forever.
meh. Maybe. I am ok with it as long as everybody voiced an opinion on the lynch. dead games help nobody. I also haven't read the rules but if it is so that if you lynch faster the night takes longer you can work with more information in the longer night?
Nothing interesting happened. Time to read the rules and lurk.
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On July 20 2016 21:48 Lunaticman wrote:It feels like this post has a lot of hidden information care to elaborate?
It's a joke based on your post and me posting.
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I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game.
Ask a simple question about the setup:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware
+ Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far?
Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try
+ Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels?
And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw  . Game is young.
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But I advice all the people townreading lunaticguy to step 5 steps back and wait till he actually does something townie.
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On July 20 2016 22:06 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw . Game is young. You see this is how I usually get lynched. But a real scum would probably save that for later so your definatly town in my book right now. gg no re
Well I am sure that if you keep up what you are doing you will do something that is very likely only to come from town.
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On July 20 2016 22:08 emperorchampion wrote:
koshi I disagree with the set-up point: I think mafai wants to pm the mods or ask in QT versus discuss it in thread. Seems way too brazen to me
No. Mafia tends to do it in the thread because it is a post with a lot of words that puts them in the center of attention without any risk.
Do you see how he used way more words than needed?
Doesn't make him mafia. But I have seen mafia do it just like that.
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On July 20 2016 22:10 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw . Game is young. Is this the game koshi finally rolls mafia?
Hello Palmar my good friend. Funny as always!
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On July 20 2016 22:15 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:14 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:10 Palmar wrote:On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw . Game is young. Is this the game koshi finally rolls mafia? Hello Palmar my good friend. Funny as always! Is it true, have you never been mafia?
I have been a lot. But I probably have a pretty abnormal town rate for the amount of games I played.
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On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D
If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx?
pretty hard question. I know.
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On July 20 2016 22:28 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:13 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:08 emperorchampion wrote:
koshi I disagree with the set-up point: I think mafai wants to pm the mods or ask in QT versus discuss it in thread. Seems way too brazen to me No. Mafia tends to do it in the thread because it is a post with a lot of words that puts them in the center of attention without any risk. Do you see how he used way more words than needed? Doesn't make him mafia. But I have seen mafia do it just like that. I think this can be a scum tell for lurkers who are just looking to buff up their filter to avoid a lynch. It's pretty much a null tell for somebody I can only assume will be posting a lot.
which is what I said. I am not saying he is mafia. But he is doing things some mafia do.
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On July 20 2016 22:35 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels?
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw . Game is young. I'm more curious about this part. He didn't give anyone a town read aside from suggesting Kels could be blue. Any posts in particular?
Meh. It is a maybe feeling.
Point of the post was to create discussion and deny the upcoming lunaticguy is 100% town sentiment.
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On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol).
Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads.
pls remember because I will forget it.
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On July 20 2016 22:31 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Surprises abound! It seems the Fête had started earlier than Kruppe had anticipated.
how good is that series of books? I might want to start reading something fantasy again that is good.
Read Wheel of Time series couple years back. Pretty good stuff.
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On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? 
sekret taktiks
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On July 21 2016 00:02 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:52 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:48 Skynx wrote:
Ah well, anyone got any alignment indicative stuff so far? skynx you're better than this blech post overall ??? People are hinting at stuff so they might aswell collect and present them at town like you did no?
You might be mafia
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1 milk and 2 sugars in a cup. And I never finish the cup because I dont like coffee. Still drink 3 unfinished cups a day.
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But only when I am at work. I never drink coffee when I am free.
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On July 21 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
do i really have to read all this or is it all about coffee and tea and stuff?
Read skynx his filter.
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On July 21 2016 02:23 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 01:12 prplhz wrote:
up to date but i literally have nothing and i also don't feel like posting See here, i literally had nothing but felt like posting. Asked maybe if anyone had anything. Koshi you're better than this.
pls gooby. I said you might be mafia and people voiced their opinion on you. It's all good. When I push somebody I push somebody. Now I am just playing around.
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On July 21 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
To be perfectly honest I think Palmer is acting super scummy, it feels like a desperate attempt to save EC. But I have a town read on EC which is kinda wierd.
Could it be possible both of them are scum?
It feels like such a rookie misstake to make.
...
Really
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EC looks pretty town so I don't understand how Palmar can make him mafia. Explain?
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On July 21 2016 06:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 06:28 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 02:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 01:12 prplhz wrote:
up to date but i literally have nothing and i also don't feel like posting See here, i literally had nothing but felt like posting. Asked maybe if anyone had anything. Koshi you're better than this. pls gooby. I said you might be mafia and people voiced their opinion on you. It's all good. When I push somebody I push somebody. Now I am just playing around. ... are you saying you made me read his filter for nothing?!
No. I thought/think he could be mafia.
Sometimes you have some reason to townread somebody that is actually really believable and use-able.
I think it is too soon to read skynx anyway. But if his filter looks like this (or when I read it earlier) EoD2 he is lock mafia.
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On July 21 2016 05:45 prplhz wrote:
i am really having a hard time imagining Lunaticman playing mafia for 8 hours with people being 100% serious 100% of the time which is why i think it's odd he's being so serious and taking everything so serious all the time
This is a good point.
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On July 21 2016 05:46 prplhz wrote:
i don't know if i want to lynch him anyway because he's very active and this is his first game
top town prplhz
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On July 21 2016 06:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 05:45 prplhz wrote:
i am really having a hard time imagining Lunaticman playing mafia for 8 hours with people being 100% serious 100% of the time which is why i think it's odd he's being so serious and taking everything so serious all the time This is a good point. The dude is literally agreeing with my trolling.
I don't understand what you are saying.
Something is off on lunatic.
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On July 21 2016 06:55 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 06:50 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 06:47 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 05:45 prplhz wrote:
i am really having a hard time imagining Lunaticman playing mafia for 8 hours with people being 100% serious 100% of the time which is why i think it's odd he's being so serious and taking everything so serious all the time This is a good point. The dude is literally agreeing with my trolling. I don't understand what you are saying. Something is off on lunatic. I'm pointing out he's completely unable to detect sarcasm/trolling (read our interactions).
ah ok now I understand. He did it in the start as well. But I don't know why it makes him mafia though. It is just superodd. Why would he play like that as mafia :/
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well tbf prplhz also just says it is odd.
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On July 21 2016 07:37 Palmar wrote:actually prplhz said he thought he was 100% mafia
o rly
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On July 21 2016 12:12 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 12:09 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jk about shutting the fuck up grack.
um but yeah. Let's vote for kruppe or rels or something guys. What do you think about a Koshi vote?
I disagree that I done nothing of value for this town. Or that I am obviously trying to make sure the game is not solved. Quite the opposite tbh.
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On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:
And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case
Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, Tumble
Total Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker
Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack Fields
Koshi is a changed man now.
Good list. Top town for now.
And the list is good because I agree on the top 2, and the greens maybe, but for sure the last 2. and the last one only because he scumreads me but that is actually understandable. But still. Good list.
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On July 21 2016 21:35 Lunaticman wrote:
Also if Palmer turns red, there is a good chance EC is red too.
Please don't say things like this. They are based on no evidence at all except some weird reasoning in your head that Palmar for no reason at all took heat of EC.
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On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now  Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow.
7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do?
If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off.
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On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town.
I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia.
Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad.
This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes.
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On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.
I agree Palmar might be mafia. And last times I said Palmar was mafia he actually was mafia and I got night killed and people didn't lynch him. So I am glad you are in the game.
I am currently thinking about Kruppe as well. What is your opinion?
My current scumteam:
Palmar/Kruppe/Rels
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The reason why I think at least 2 mafia are within my list. (the reasoning is weak, but they connect like this atm) Also Palmar, Rels, Kruppe are left in my PoE list of let's say 6 people if I would really make one.
↓It was weird that Palmar had him in his scumlist. Why wasn't Kruppe null? He looked pretty null.
On July 21 2016 04:31 Palmar wrote:
Kruppe playing games, only confirms my strong scumread on him based on the extensive research I've done on this game.
↓ The 2 calm envelopes are sent to the 2 people who everybody are townreading. Really boring.
The 2 hot envelopes are sent to me and Rels. I am not mafia. And mafia likes to add at least 1 mafia.
On July 21 2016 04:30 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Such mystery! Friend Kruppe has two sets of —most beautifully written by Kruppe himself— invitations.
Red envelopes! Warm invitations to the most (in?)famous and lustrous (in some way) inn in Darujhistan; the Phoenix Inn!
Blue envelopes! Calming invitations to the mysterious inn in.. Darujhistan(?); the Crossroad Inn!
Where will Kruppe truly be? What table will be filled with the most delicious pastries, the toughest of drinks and hosted by the most magnanimous host of all, Kruppe?
Kruppe cordially extends a red envelope to both Rels and Koshi. A pair of two indeed! Kruppe extends a warm welcome to the Phoenix Inn! (And of course, dear Koshi, a book with friend Kruppe in it is worth reading a thousand times over!)
Kruppe also extends two mysterious blue envelopes! One to Skynx and one to EmperorChampion. An enigma indeed! Kruppe would welcome the both of you to the Crossroad Inn!
↓Weird logic.
On July 21 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:30 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Such mystery! Friend Kruppe has two sets of —most beautifully written by Kruppe himself— invitations.
Red envelopes! Warm invitations to the most (in?)famous and lustrous (in some way) inn in Darujhistan; the Phoenix Inn!
Blue envelopes! Calming invitations to the mysterious inn in.. Darujhistan(?); the Crossroad Inn!
Where will Kruppe truly be? What table will be filled with the most delicious pastries, the toughest of drinks and hosted by the most magnanimous host of all, Kruppe?
Kruppe cordially extends a red envelope to both Rels and Koshi. A pair of two indeed! Kruppe extends a warm welcome to the Phoenix Inn! (And of course, dear Koshi, a book with friend Kruppe in it is worth reading a thousand times over!)
Kruppe also extends two mysterious blue envelopes! One to Skynx and one to EmperorChampion. An enigma indeed! Kruppe would welcome the both of you to the Crossroad Inn! Kruppe posting 15 minutes after being called out by Palmar is suspicious.
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On July 21 2016 22:41 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:So p19 it kicks off with Tumble case. While it's an ok case, there is nothing new in it. Tumble basically just repeats and compiles what he's found scummy about emperor over span of past few pages. Main point being posting for sake of posting. On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread This however is some giveaway. Now his push turns into a meta push. I mean if you feel like you made enough convincing in your case why write this? There are lot of players who are unfamiliar with emp playstyle and I don't actually agree he fits his scum meta so far. Actually I'm sure Koshi can figure out why emperor is not scum so far cuz we discussed this deeply in coach chat. Koshi, could you comment on this meta.
Comes down to the fact mafia EC will post about everything without real content if he is scum.
This EC is doing pretty good.
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On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here?
prplhz,
Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree.
Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town.
Palmar might very well be mafia.
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On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum???
I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with:
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Really
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But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does...
If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does.
He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it.
It's townie.
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Lunaticman
Stop annoying this man. Work with him. Not against him.
You will see he is town if you work with him.
Stop your tunnels.
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On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum??? I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with: ...
Really
... But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does... If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does. He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it. It's townie. HMM OKAY i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!! Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today.
Fine. I can kill the eel as well. Or Rels.
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I have actually a good reason why Palmar is town:
On July 21 2016 04:15 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:02 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:01 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 03:57 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:53 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. I dunno if this makes sense. Why would you vote for a town person? Also I am far from fighting for my life. I am "defending" my self from tumble because his arguments are so weak, they are leading me to think that he might be scum. Voting for people is a common tactic this generates pressure which generates misstakes, you can switch your vote anytime unless I am missing something. Go forth and make mistakes my friend Maybe you should give us a list of our reads so far and some thoughts. You have been chilling far to much. ok. 100% town - aka never lynching.Prplhz Skynx Likely town:Tumblewood emperorchampion Rels Null, no reason to lynch but no real reason to townreadPalmar DCWasabi Koshi Gracaroni null, possibly scum because I haven't really noticed themnnn_thekushmountains Lunaticman Scummy/possibly mafiasicklucker Kruppe the eel
The (better) townreads in this list were really fast and on point. prplhz, EC and Skynx.
Would be bad play if Palmar is mafia. Well... Not bad play, but it would hurt mafia agenda.
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On July 21 2016 23:07 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:05 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:03 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:54 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:
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Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:
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Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy. These two specifically imo makes him scummy. 1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor. 2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor? The difference is I did the first vote in the game, and I said it was to generate content. I just don't see why it is beyond you. Someone has to put down the first vote and start finding a lynch target. I really had no intention to lynch EC, I just wanted to see where that got us. The response however by Palmer in my mind is to scummy to let go. But by all means if you find someone better to lynch please persuade me. It didn't generate any content. emperor felt no pressure from your vote. The fact that YOU try to reason your vote with "to generate content" is so scummy on its own. Kruppe, sicklucker and you are better lynches. Kruppe does wonder, dear Skynx, what has changed from poor Kruppe's play compared to last time we met that you would point a (hopefully blunt) finger at Kruppe? Nothing my dear. You do nothing towny or scummy. You are intentionally being unreadible, an asset that does not benefit town in any way. Kruppe does wonder, possible friend; are you discontent with the color of your envelope? Is Skynx not curious as to its meaning? Is the mystery not riveting!?
I am interested tbh. But in the red envelopes. Especially the one Rels got.
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On July 21 2016 23:08 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum??? I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with: ...
Really
... But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does... If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does. He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it. It's townie. HMM OKAY i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!! Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today. I wont stop until someone gives me a better target.
Can you give me your full opinion on this guy? Even if he is town. Can you tell me why?
DCWasabi
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On July 21 2016 23:13 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 23:07 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 21 2016 23:05 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:03 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:54 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:
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His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point.
My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:
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What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet.
Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here.
So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy. These two specifically imo makes him scummy. 1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor. 2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor? The difference is I did the first vote in the game, and I said it was to generate content. I just don't see why it is beyond you. Someone has to put down the first vote and start finding a lynch target. I really had no intention to lynch EC, I just wanted to see where that got us. The response however by Palmer in my mind is to scummy to let go. But by all means if you find someone better to lynch please persuade me. It didn't generate any content. emperor felt no pressure from your vote. The fact that YOU try to reason your vote with "to generate content" is so scummy on its own. Kruppe, sicklucker and you are better lynches. Kruppe does wonder, dear Skynx, what has changed from poor Kruppe's play compared to last time we met that you would point a (hopefully blunt) finger at Kruppe? Nothing my dear. You do nothing towny or scummy. You are intentionally being unreadible, an asset that does not benefit town in any way. Kruppe does wonder, possible friend; are you discontent with the color of your envelope? Is Skynx not curious as to its meaning? Is the mystery not riveting!? I am interested tbh. But in the red envelopes. Especially the one Rels got. Mayhaps the envelope Rels receives differs from your own, friend Koshi. Mayhaps. Not even Kruppe himself is sure yet (or is he?)!
##vote Kruppe the Eel
It is funny till it isn't. If you want to roleplay and keep it fun and not get lynched you need to move faster. Atm you are stalling and giving town nothing.
The best roleplay I ever saw was the guy who made the newspaper in some big game. That was sooo good.
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On July 21 2016 23:15 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
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It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum??? I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with: ...
Really
... But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does... If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does. He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it. It's townie. HMM OKAY i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!! Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today. Fine. I can kill the eel as well. Or Rels. Koshi I understand that you want to push teams this game and not individual players, but your links between the team mates are very tenuous. Personally, I find that rels has looked pretty towny so far. The bit where you say that scum will include 1 other scum is an interesting point that I completely agree with, but your scum conclusion of kruppe seems to be based off of Palmar's post. As you said, kruppe is null (I suppose before his reads post, which may have changed things). So I agree with a lot of the points that you've made, and I do think that Palmar's reads list was pretty shoddy. However, especially the rels part feels like a huge stretch.
No. I have a list of 5-6 players depending on tumbleweed and it is just funny that those people did that. The reason I think Palmar/Kruppe/Rels are possible mafia have nothing to do with those posts.
Palmar: can be mafia because it is simply still possible. You saw I had 1 reason to townread Palmar but it isn't enough.
Kruppe: Doing nothing.
Rels: His 3 scumtargets in his scumlist rub me the wrong way. Not enough focus on them before he made the list. Just 1 comment to justify the position. But nowhere there was any really pushing or convincing the thread.
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On July 21 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
So for people to actually lynch:
kruppe, sl, rels
Anyone else?
This is actually a very good list. I wonder if Palmar voted Kush after or before this list. Because if it is after this list... Bad news!
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On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that.
Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face.
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On July 21 2016 05:40 Palmar wrote:
##vote: nnn_thekushmountains
ok it was before....
Not bad news for Palmar. Might have encouraged kush to give us a good list 
slightly townlean:
13) Palmar
null and wouldn't lynch:
9) nnn_thekushmountains
10) Tumblewood
mafia:
11) Kruppe the eel
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
I am off atm. All other people are town atm for me. I'll be back but like I said I don't want to push a lynch. Just kill one of the mafia dudes.
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On July 21 2016 23:27 Lunaticman wrote:
I think Koshi right now might be the best investigator target followed by EC.
He has really backed me in the thread the last few pages but I don't know if that is good or bad. If he is scum I will never see it.
I hope Palmer goes online soon and hardclaims a role.
We don't claim roles...
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On July 21 2016 23:38 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:37 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 23:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:30 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 23:28 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 23:20 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:49 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:
And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case
Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, Tumble
Total Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker
Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack Fields
Town leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change.
Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far.
Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now.
kush is kush, similar to palmar.
Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read.
Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really.
Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm
sl is sl
Points on Lunatic explained eariler
Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs.
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Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it.
Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him:
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This contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum?
Then you turn to tone based read.
Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf.
I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today.
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how you so sure about kush meta and tone then? Where did I say I was lurking? Those were just things I've noticed on Lunatic not a push. I think I've explained fairly clearly why I like a Kush lynch. Palmar/Haze's attitude didn't strike me as off in a scummy way like Kush's did. On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I've been taking notes. This is lurking. You were following the thread but we didn't know about it. It's tactical it seems. On Lunatic and kush, well I guess we just have differing opinions then. I wasn't sitting here taking notes all day long and not posting, I took notes as I read through the thread. I see. Who are you ok with lynching other than kush? Sicklucker/kruppe/rels are all fine lynches for day 1. Koshi seems to be getting more involved with the thread right now, which is good. I'm not sure about rels. I hold sl/palmar almost same in terms of lynchability. Kruppe I'm fine with if he keeps same attitude. Can you explain the kruppe read? He seems unreadable. That's it, he's unreadable. I usually read people like him town and so far it's worked out
That's just because chance on rolling town > chance on rolling mafia
You should decide to lynch people like him when your PoE allows it.
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On July 22 2016 00:38 Palmar wrote:
Grack should not be lynched, and Kruppe is just a blind luck policy lynch (which is fine and I don't mind).
Not completely blind. PoE policy lynch. His odds on being mafia are bigger than 3/13. More like 3/6 or so.
50/50
good odds.
Rels is a good lynch, but if he is town I would feel worse than Kruppe ending up being town.
I shall go read that Onegu game and see if Kruppe actually advanced the games there for his own pleasure. I think he did. Not sure. I shall check.
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511409-onegu-is-the-best-host-mafia?user=Kruppe the Eel
You see? I don't even have to read till the end of his first page to see he is advancing the game in his own style. Which was pretty fun when I read it.
This game? Nothing.
It is not blind luck. He is way more underwhelming than his last game. He was one of the first to see Vivax was town and Snickers mafia in that game.
DISCLAIMER: I actually do not know if Kruppe was town in that game.
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Anyway. Rels is a good lynch. But also the obvious ml for the mafia team.
It doesn't get any worse than Rels his filter.
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On July 22 2016 01:19 emperorchampion wrote:Yeah he was town. At the same time, we don't really know if he's advancing this game or not. For instance he also was heavy on the ksc lynch train last game, who ended up being town. And here he is one of the first to cast suspicion on rels, which seems to be a popular thing. I dunno the more I think about it, the less I want to lynch him. Also I like playing with kruppe , so by this I would prefer to lynch sicklucker over kruppe
He didn't cast any suspicion on Rels. It was 4 names and Rels was one of them. But he didn't redirect town towards rels AT ALL. He is playing very obviously less pro town than that last game. He is not pushing town towards the right direction and he is just sitting there roleplaying.
There is really no reason to leave him alive. Except if you find a person who is likely more mafia than him atm. Which could be Rels.
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Man this game would be pretty boring if it was rels/sl/kruppe.
I wonder who could be the good mafia.
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On July 22 2016 02:49 emperorchampion wrote:
Also at what point do we just lynch palmar for trolling and not making any sense =/
When there is disconnect between his scumhunting posts or he proven is plain wrong.
example.
He had Rels as town before and Kruppe mafia, but now he is lynching Rels and saying Kruppe is a 100% crapshoot. Why?
At this point he might still be town as I somehow had the feeling he is still looking at the right places and is advancing the thread. But that feeling could be him playing me. I have not reread his filter since his last appearance.
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On July 22 2016 01:56 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Aaai! Do not lynch me friends, Kruppe is most innocent! Kruppe solemnly swears!
Kruppe will be most preoccupied due the heat. It is current much too warm to plan a party of friends!
Some ponderings from friendly Kruppe:
Koshi's heart is in the right place. Alas, his mind is not.
Rels' envelope may have been delivered a bit too early. Kruppe observes that Rels' traitorous traits are denoted by a serious tone! Something Rels' lacked when Kruppe had the envelope delivered —worry not friends, Kruppe has many ways to switch its contents!—. Kruppe now ponders on Rels yet is not convinced of either his maliciousness or his innocence yet!
Both Skynx and EmperorChampion should know better! They have observed Kruppe's craftsmanship before! Yet they are firmly opposing Kruppe's party. Ludicrousness!
Kruppe yet ponders more on EmperorChampion. A glimpse of (genuine?) intelligence was observed —by none other than Kruppe himself!— when talking about poor, innocent Kruppe. Yet when confronted by Koshi's plain views, he simply fell back into the herd. For shame!
Traitorous Skynx should know better for certain! Kruppe expects Skynx to have deeper opinions other than defaulting on the mystery behind poorest Kruppe. Something he has even struggled with before! Most recently! Maliciousness indeed.
Kush's opinion is sharp, yet Kruppe argues that his opinion may be driven by a (nefarious?) agenda! Envelopes pending!
Palmar is bedridden. Yet a lazy man is easily underestimated. Kruppe gives a small nod towards Palmar. May he receive his envelope shortly.
skynx is mafia because he doesn't see you are playing the same as last game?
I think it was pretty much proven that you are not playing the same as last game. You did nothing so far. It is only logical
to want to lynch you.
Explain to me how EC is mafia. He clearly is playing completely different than last games and is trying to solve the and find mafia.
None of your reads are explained properly. The roleplaying is all good fun but last game you were able to let good information shine through. This time? You are hiding between it.
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I am reading your posts sl. You are not alone in this world.
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On July 22 2016 03:59 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Koshi wrote:
Rels: His 3 scumtargets in his scumlist rub me the wrong way. Not enough focus on them before he made the list. Just 1 comment to justify the position. But nowhere there was any really pushing or convincing the thread. Bad bad bad. Of course it's like that, I stopped mid-catching up 'cause my lunch break was over. I'm set on nobody so it's normal I'm not focusing on nobody.
That was possible. There is a shot that you are town and mafia ml of choice.
The idea that Krup is mafia because he made that envelope post after Palmar called him out is silly.
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On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote:
yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.
Like can we all sort of agree on that list?
Skynx
Kush
Krupp
Tumble
Rels
DCW
We're lynching in here, right?
I see no reason to lynch either Skynx or TW.
DCW can be lynched.
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There is a 0% chance TW is mafia.
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On July 22 2016 04:28 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:16 Lunaticman wrote:On July 22 2016 04:14 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:On July 22 2016 04:10 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 04:09 Lunaticman wrote:On July 22 2016 04:06 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 04:04 Lunaticman wrote:
Was Haze fake claiming role too? likely I think that entire sequence was very weird. I think either palmar or Haze must be scum based on it. I just wish I was vigilante so I could do it myself. Bro (/girl) it was a joke 50% of Palmars posts qualify as "joke" or "troll" to me it just look like a scum with nowhere to hide. It is non alignment indicative (NAI) for him. So hes just a douche? Actually I'm like the nicest guy. Really Like soft and fluffy and fun.
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On July 22 2016 04:31 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:
before I say that though I guess I should read DC's filter
@skynx why are you not lynching rels or kush? I have my reasons. + Show Spoiler +jk, I feel like kush has been ok and I liked some of the stuff rels pointed out in his second activity period.
Give me the reasons. Why are they more likely town over mafia?
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You know what the problem is with rabbits? When you pet them they kinda shrink and don't make a noise. Only their little nose goes up and down. You really don't know if they like it or are just too petrified to run away.
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On July 22 2016 04:35 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:08 Koshi wrote:I have actually a good reason why Palmar is town: On July 21 2016 04:15 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 04:02 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:01 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 03:57 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:53 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:
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Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC.
Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target.
I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. I dunno if this makes sense. Why would you vote for a town person? Also I am far from fighting for my life. I am "defending" my self from tumble because his arguments are so weak, they are leading me to think that he might be scum. Voting for people is a common tactic this generates pressure which generates misstakes, you can switch your vote anytime unless I am missing something. Go forth and make mistakes my friend Maybe you should give us a list of our reads so far and some thoughts. You have been chilling far to much. ok. 100% town - aka never lynching.Prplhz Skynx Likely town:Tumblewood emperorchampion Rels Null, no reason to lynch but no real reason to townreadPalmar DCWasabi Koshi Gracaroni null, possibly scum because I haven't really noticed themnnn_thekushmountains Lunaticman Scummy/possibly mafiasicklucker Kruppe the eel The (better) townreads in this list were really fast and on point. prplhz, EC and Skynx. Would be bad play if Palmar is mafia. Well... Not bad play, but it would hurt mafia agenda. How did you end up townreading Palmar based off a list that was randomly generated? He even put himself as null, but I figured it was a non-role pm reading thing.
how the fuck was I supposed to know it was rng? The reasoning is literally in the fucking post you quoted.
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I was saying that Palmar was mafia. And then when I made that post I said:
I have 1 reason to townread Palmar. And that was it.
Also. If you both think it is more likely it is scum!Koshi and town!Palmar instead of the very likely town!Koshi and scum!Palmar I have really no words.
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On July 22 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain to me how Kruppe is different from last game.
Try to read his first page. See how he formulates his posts around Vivax and Snickers. Free information pushed in the game.
This game there is only secrecy and roleplay. If we want any information we have to drag it out of him. Also the information post he made felt like something he had to make to get people to back off. While in the other game he made posts because he wanted to solve the game.
It is very obvious.
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On July 22 2016 04:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:47 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain to me how Kruppe is different from last game. Try to read his first page. See how he formulates his posts around Vivax and Snickers. Free information pushed in the game. This game there is only secrecy and roleplay. If we want any information we have to drag it out of him. Also the information post he made felt like something he had to make to get people to back off. While in the other game he made posts because he wanted to solve the game. It is very obvious. Explain to me then because for me it is kinda the same thing. Like his last big post: Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 01:56 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Aaai! Do not lynch me friends, Kruppe is most innocent! Kruppe solemnly swears!
Kruppe will be most preoccupied due the heat. It is current much too warm to plan a party of friends!
Some ponderings from friendly Kruppe:
Koshi's heart is in the right place. Alas, his mind is not.
Rels' envelope may have been delivered a bit too early. Kruppe observes that Rels' traitorous traits are denoted by a serious tone! Something Rels' lacked when Kruppe had the envelope delivered —worry not friends, Kruppe has many ways to switch its contents!—. Kruppe now ponders on Rels yet is not convinced of either his maliciousness or his innocence yet!
Both Skynx and EmperorChampion should know better! They have observed Kruppe's craftsmanship before! Yet they are firmly opposing Kruppe's party. Ludicrousness!
Kruppe yet ponders more on EmperorChampion. A glimpse of (genuine?) intelligence was observed —by none other than Kruppe himself!— when talking about poor, innocent Kruppe. Yet when confronted by Koshi's plain views, he simply fell back into the herd. For shame!
Traitorous Skynx should know better for certain! Kruppe expects Skynx to have deeper opinions other than defaulting on the mystery behind poorest Kruppe. Something he has even struggled with before! Most recently! Maliciousness indeed.
Kush's opinion is sharp, yet Kruppe argues that his opinion may be driven by a (nefarious?) agenda! Envelopes pending!
Palmar is bedridden. Yet a lazy man is easily underestimated. Kruppe gives a small nod towards Palmar. May he receive his envelope shortly. He scumread me before but now it's more like null. Skynx and EC are suspicious for So he's clearly stating his rea
If you don't want to see the obvious there is no way I can help you.
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page 8 townread:
On July 12 2016 15:36 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe welcomes EmperorChampion, a true friend of Kruppe, to Kruppe's table. Sit, friend, and marvel in the sweetness, and sweet it is indeed, of Kruppe's friendship.
next post. page 9 townread:
On July 12 2016 23:04 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 22:57 Vivax wrote:On July 12 2016 19:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning Everyone,
I've read through the game and have a few town reads to share.
Damdred - I liked his entry and the points he raised about emperor/conversation with DCwasabi seemed excellent. He Seems engaged in the game aswell so he is my top town.
DCWasabi - I've never played with this guy before but his initial problem with emperor's post was quite well though out and I also liked his conversation with damdred so i'd have him as town at the moment.
[green]prplhz So this was strange at first I didn't like his posts about not wanting to lead the town and being happy to sheep anyone. But on further reflection I don't think it is likely that , as a mafia opening, you would come out and say stuff like that. Maybe he said something like it before or does it as either alignment but I don't remember it. I also liked the tone of his responses, sort of unapologetic for what he was saying.
For everyone else I have slight leans either way but I don't have anything that would be a helpful contribution Why do you have such a strong opinion on Damdy based on what he wrote on emc, but no opinion on emc at all? Doesn't seem logical to me. If his points are excellent you should share his views? Applause! Applause! Friend Vivax, you have earned a —certainly one of kruppe's favorites!— chair at Kruppe's table. Such wisdom is unparalleled by anyone other than Kruppe himself. [/b]
next post. page 13 update on read:
On July 13 2016 01:40 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe ponders; what happened to the infinite wisdom displayed by true friend Vivax, who is currently —most comfortably— seated at the largest and most illuminated table in the tavern?
Ah, but mayhaps Kruppe already knows. Bard Vivax's song is sonorous and devout, but a song is a poem is a tale. This is merely the beginning of the tale sung by friend Vivax; twists and turns, friends and jubilations, chairs and pastries! What wonders await us, dear friends of Kruppe? Kruppe admits to utter ignorance, solemnly sworn!
next post. page 22 scumread:
On July 13 2016 22:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Alas, wisdom is obscured to those with (mayhaps feigned?) ignorant eyes.
Words are spoken of the traitor Snickers. One of many words yet now shrouded in silence. Kruppe admits to the peculiarity of such a phenomenon, a personality switched, a mouth stitched. Kruppe begs of thee, Snickers —if you are a true friend of Kruppe's—, sing loud and true!
Yet in the shadows sits KelsierSC, once prodded by friend Vivax's insight, still a convenient bystander. Kruppe asks of you —reader—, who may just be a true friend of Kruppe, do you consider Kelsier to be a friend? Kruppe raises his eyebrow with much vehemency!
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On July 14 2016 05:59 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe is somewhat conflicted, dear friends. It seems that Snickers simply stormed off in a fit of anger! How very uncharacteristic, indeed. When faced with peril, should we not show our true colors and shine bright? Mayhaps Snickers is a traitor in truth after all.
Yet, Kruppe's infinite wisdom prevails! Kelsier is not a true friend, but a traitor among us! It has been seen by bard Vivax before, but Kelsier has slipped through the myriad of conversations. Kelsier's display of opinion was the first impression —the most important of impression's, Kruppe would argue— given to us by undear Kelsier, and it has stayed that way. Our beloved bard had even spoken true of Kelsier's most interesting view; it was characterized by inconsistency! Alas, it is true that Kelsier could still be a friend after all. But, with finger both brazenly raised and wagging, Kruppe would argue that Kelsier has since not contributed his opinion at all! Most interesting, as this seemed to be an utmost priority at the very start!
Kruppe —with heavy heart, as your truest friend Kruppe is not one to resort to violence— will temporarily put down his left pastry (though the right pastry is still firmly grasped) to point a finger at Kelsier.
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On July 14 2016 06:08 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Though if Snickers does not show up for a most rousing of conversation, then Kruppe will not oppose the ousting of Snickers.
Alas, at is stands your dearest friend Kruppe has some important business to attend to. Your most interesting conversations will certainly be missed! Though Kruppe is sure he will hear of them.
Those are all consecutive posts. Well constructed and easy to read. This game he is doing nothing of that. The only read post he gave was the last one. Which he made to get people of his back.
The envelope post was terrible vague. It even appears the red envelopes were his townreads and the blue ones were scumreads. How the fuck? That is the opposite as his previous game because there even though he roleplayed his reads were clear. This game he is hiding behind the roleplaying to minimize giving out reads.
He isn't a lock mafia. But if we want to lynch a guy who has given town nothing, plays under his capabilities and plays meta different than his last town game. Kruppe is always the lynch.
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On July 22 2016 05:12 Rels wrote:
prp is a OK lynch too. His main contribution this game was getting people to vote me for no reason. Alone voting "just to see what happens" is not scummy, but since he's done almost nothing else he could be scum.
His first half of his filter is useless.
His second half is just attacking lunatic but not scumreading him.
In between he votes me and stays on me to see what happens.
Not impossible he's a bad town. Still an alright lynch.
This is a very lazy and cheap summarize of somebody his filter.
Town is nothing with this.
prplhz is insane lynchbait in every game. He had a couple good posts this game so I don't see why you would want to lynch him over others.
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On July 22 2016 05:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:page 8 townread: On July 12 2016 15:36 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe welcomes EmperorChampion, a true friend of Kruppe, to Kruppe's table. Sit, friend, and marvel in the sweetness, and sweet it is indeed, of Kruppe's friendship. next post. page 9 townread: On July 12 2016 23:04 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 12 2016 22:57 Vivax wrote:On July 12 2016 19:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning Everyone,
I've read through the game and have a few town reads to share.
Damdred - I liked his entry and the points he raised about emperor/conversation with DCwasabi seemed excellent. He Seems engaged in the game aswell so he is my top town.
DCWasabi - I've never played with this guy before but his initial problem with emperor's post was quite well though out and I also liked his conversation with damdred so i'd have him as town at the moment.
[green]prplhz So this was strange at first I didn't like his posts about not wanting to lead the town and being happy to sheep anyone. But on further reflection I don't think it is likely that , as a mafia opening, you would come out and say stuff like that. Maybe he said something like it before or does it as either alignment but I don't remember it. I also liked the tone of his responses, sort of unapologetic for what he was saying.
For everyone else I have slight leans either way but I don't have anything that would be a helpful contribution Why do you have such a strong opinion on Damdy based on what he wrote on emc, but no opinion on emc at all? Doesn't seem logical to me. If his points are excellent you should share his views? Applause! Applause! Friend Vivax, you have earned a —certainly one of kruppe's favorites!— chair at Kruppe's table. Such wisdom is unparalleled by anyone other than Kruppe himself. next post. page 13 update on read: On July 13 2016 01:40 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe ponders; what happened to the infinite wisdom displayed by true friend Vivax, who is currently —most comfortably— seated at the largest and most illuminated table in the tavern?
Ah, but mayhaps Kruppe already knows. Bard Vivax's song is sonorous and devout, but a song is a poem is a tale. This is merely the beginning of the tale sung by friend Vivax; twists and turns, friends and jubilations, chairs and pastries! What wonders await us, dear friends of Kruppe? Kruppe admits to utter ignorance, solemnly sworn! next post. page 22 scumread: On July 13 2016 22:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Alas, wisdom is obscured to those with (mayhaps feigned?) ignorant eyes.
Words are spoken of the traitor Snickers. One of many words yet now shrouded in silence. Kruppe admits to the peculiarity of such a phenomenon, a personality switched, a mouth stitched. Kruppe begs of thee, Snickers —if you are a true friend of Kruppe's—, sing loud and true!
Yet in the shadows sits KelsierSC, once prodded by friend Vivax's insight, still a convenient bystander. Kruppe asks of you —reader—, who may just be a true friend of Kruppe, do you consider Kelsier to be a friend? Kruppe raises his eyebrow with much vehemency! next post, page 23, scumread: On July 14 2016 05:59 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe is somewhat conflicted, dear friends. It seems that Snickers simply stormed off in a fit of anger! How very uncharacteristic, indeed. When faced with peril, should we not show our true colors and shine bright? Mayhaps Snickers is a traitor in truth after all.
Yet, Kruppe's infinite wisdom prevails! Kelsier is not a true friend, but a traitor among us! It has been seen by bard Vivax before, but Kelsier has slipped through the myriad of conversations. Kelsier's display of opinion was the first impression —the most important of impression's, Kruppe would argue— given to us by undear Kelsier, and it has stayed that way. Our beloved bard had even spoken true of Kelsier's most interesting view; it was characterized by inconsistency! Alas, it is true that Kelsier could still be a friend after all. But, with finger both brazenly raised and wagging, Kruppe would argue that Kelsier has since not contributed his opinion at all! Most interesting, as this seemed to be an utmost priority at the very start!
Kruppe —with heavy heart, as your truest friend Kruppe is not one to resort to violence— will temporarily put down his left pastry (though the right pastry is still firmly grasped) to point a finger at Kelsier. next post page 23, scumread: On July 14 2016 06:08 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Though if Snickers does not show up for a most rousing of conversation, then Kruppe will not oppose the ousting of Snickers.
Alas, at is stands your dearest friend Kruppe has some important business to attend to. Your most interesting conversations will certainly be missed! Though Kruppe is sure he will hear of them. Those are all consecutive posts. Well constructed and easy to read. This game he is doing nothing of that. The only read post he gave was the last one. Which he made to get people of his back. The envelope post was terrible vague. It even appears the red envelopes were his townreads and the blue ones were scumreads. How the fuck? That is the opposite as his previous game because there even though he roleplayed his reads were clear. This game he is hiding behind the roleplaying to minimize giving out reads. He isn't a lock mafia. But if we want to lynch a guy who has given town nothing, plays under his capabilities and plays meta different than his last town game. Kruppe is always the lynch. OK. I see your point. DC is still a better lynch [/b]
No he isn't at all.
Ok. You decided to be completely useless this game. Ignored for the rest of the game. Will push your lynch when possible.
Insane how you haven't said anything remotely decent this game. Something I can actually use to read somebody.
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On July 22 2016 05:22 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 05:19 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 05:12 Rels wrote:
prp is a OK lynch too. His main contribution this game was getting people to vote me for no reason. Alone voting "just to see what happens" is not scummy, but since he's done almost nothing else he could be scum.
His first half of his filter is useless.
His second half is just attacking lunatic but not scumreading him.
In between he votes me and stays on me to see what happens.
Not impossible he's a bad town. Still an alright lynch. This is a very lazy and cheap summarize of somebody his filter. Town is nothing with this. prplhz is insane lynchbait in every game. He had a couple good posts this game so I don't see why you would want to lynch him over others. Wrong. He was not "insane lynchbait" last game. And I remember someone last game saying he was more useless as scum than as town too.
The guy played 50 games on this site and got lynched in 45. Who the fuck cares what happened in your last game.
I don't even care about prplhz his alignment atm. I care about the fact that was another throwaway read you gave. Not a single read you have given this game had anything resembling thought process in it. It's all cheap and generic.
100% ignored. You are most likely mafia or can't be worked with.
Pretty sure town will either lynch a townread of mine or a null read anyway. It's incredible.
I am gone for 30 hours. It's useless.
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On July 22 2016 05:30 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 05:25 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 05:22 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 05:19 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 05:12 Rels wrote:
prp is a OK lynch too. His main contribution this game was getting people to vote me for no reason. Alone voting "just to see what happens" is not scummy, but since he's done almost nothing else he could be scum.
His first half of his filter is useless.
His second half is just attacking lunatic but not scumreading him.
In between he votes me and stays on me to see what happens.
Not impossible he's a bad town. Still an alright lynch. This is a very lazy and cheap summarize of somebody his filter. Town is nothing with this. prplhz is insane lynchbait in every game. He had a couple good posts this game so I don't see why you would want to lynch him over others. Wrong. He was not "insane lynchbait" last game. And I remember someone last game saying he was more useless as scum than as town too. The guy played 50 games on this site and got lynched in 45. Who the fuck cares what happened in your last game. I don't even care about prplhz his alignment atm. I care about the fact that was another throwaway read you gave. Not a single read you have given this game had anything resembling thought process in it. It's all cheap and generic. 100% ignored. You are most likely mafia or can't be worked with.
Pretty sure town will either lynch a townread of mine or a null read anyway. It's incredible. I am gone for 30 hours. It's useless. Pls don't do this I'm so tired btw I'm gona go bed with Kruppe vote. Don't have anything better at this point.
I am fine with either lynch atm. There is no real reason why I think Kruppe should be lynched and I don't want to shennanie to a new player.
There is a chance we are completely off atm but we will see tomorrow.
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On July 22 2016 05:34 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe's vote will stay on traitor Skynx.
0 reasoning?
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On July 22 2016 05:39 Palmar wrote:
I think none of the leading wagons are mafia.
Let's kill tumblewood
never mafia.
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Spell out your claim. Spell it out. What role are you. You cannot lie. You cannot ever take it back.
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Rels you got meta on DCW?
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On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum.
Why is Kush town?
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On July 22 2016 06:37 emperorchampion wrote:
also he hasn't voted yet, idk what that means
it means he is genuinly afk.
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Oh silent night. I forgot that.
I am pretty sure that silent nights decrease the chance I am modkilled with 90%. And the chance I am modkilled is 10%. So only 1% remains!!!
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Sicklucker not being here is pretty damning. No?
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ok. thought he was always around for lynches.
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On July 22 2016 06:48 DCWasabi wrote:
I think that Kush's case on SL is pretty shitty, but other than that nothing strikes me as particularly scummy.
He is always low activity early on.
I was Mason with him last game and he put like nothing in Mason QT.
I know that I am town, so obviously I would rather lynch him than me, but there may be better lynches.
I know that Kruppe was being inactive and useless due to hard to understand, has he posted better stuff recently?
He claimed multiple roles. So we are backing off in case he is blue.
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On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/
Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc
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Remember
NIGHT = SILENCE
Do not get modkilled. TY.
Do not instant modkill. TY.
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Kruppe is 100% town don't ask him to claim it doesn't matter.
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a fear kill is almost always coming from Rels or sicklucker here.
Palmar dieing is really odd anyway.. I think there were obvious townies in the thread. Palmar really was not one of them.
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skynx is maybe the only one that benefits from a Palmar nk... Maybeeee
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On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote:
yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.
Like can we all sort of agree on that list?
Skynx
Kush
Krupp
Tumble
Rels
We're lynching in here, right?
Like... I think most mafia are in here and decided to kill Palmar due to this list.
Tumble Skynx Rels.
Krupp is confirmed blue unless CC.
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Yeah I like those 3 names. Pretty likely 2 mafia in there.
I should really just not push anybody D1/N1. There has not been much success to it lately.
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##Vote Rels
Kush/Palmar and a lot of people found/find him suspicious.
Reading his filter nothing stands out. Didn't really care his preferred lynch target was lynched. When I asked him about DCW close to the lynch he didn't try to convince me the guy was mafia at all. Instead he deflected my invitation to join him with "I don't know DCW is 100% mafia". Which is maybe weird.
Anyway. My vote is there.
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Maybe I am mafia. Maybe not.
But don't let me maybe being mafia stop you from accepting things you find logical.
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On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:+ Show Spoiler +You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them. His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter. This is his opinion on kush, the only one. On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face. Then grack starts the train. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched. On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town? He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never. On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc There are also other stuff.
To answer the case on me.
I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e.
I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made.
I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are:
a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game.
b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game.
alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush.
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On July 22 2016 22:51 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote:
yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.
Like can we all sort of agree on that list?
Skynx
Kush
Krupp
Tumble
Rels
We're lynching in here, right? Like... I think most mafia are in here and decided to kill Palmar due to this list. Tumble Skynx Rels. Krupp is confirmed blue unless CC. Yes I was thinking the same thing, but isn't that what they want us to believe? I mean either your assumption is correct or we should inverse the list and look there instead.
wifom is wifom.
But for me in this moment it makes sense those names are mafia. We will see what they do today. I was very wrong D1 to trust Tumble/Skynx it seems. Rels I never trusted and found extremely "dumb" (because there is no better word) yesterday around the lynch. So I want to lynch him.
Palmar/Kush also had him on their list.
I am going to quit the game for a bit now. I need to see what happens. .
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oh 1 more thing. I think DCW played very townie when he came back to the thread. agree?
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On July 22 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:13 emperorchampion wrote:
I think maybe Skynx and Rels should be the lynches on the table right now. Skynx I thought was very town, but it seems like a lot of people had their doubts about him, so I will certainly reconsider as well.
Seems like there is probably 1 scum in Skynx/Koshi atm? Yes.
You want to do this buddy?
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On July 22 2016 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:20 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 22 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
???? this is standard stuff relax 1 for 1 trades are awesome . lynching power roles day one is not What do you mean by 1 for 1? Claims are given way too much respect I don't like it, emperor escaped a lynch in onegu game due to vet claim. Fake claims do happen. Tumble is not a good target for JK, he only targetted emperor and rels all game, both defended pretty ok. Day 1 went perfect for mafia if thats what you mean yeah. Mayhaps Kruppe did not intend to save Tumblewood. Are there other reasons for jailing people 
yes. It prevents nks.
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On July 22 2016 23:25 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:23 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 23:20 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 22 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
???? this is standard stuff relax 1 for 1 trades are awesome . lynching power roles day one is not What do you mean by 1 for 1? Claims are given way too much respect I don't like it, emperor escaped a lynch in onegu game due to vet claim. Fake claims do happen. Tumble is not a good target for JK, he only targetted emperor and rels all game, both defended pretty ok. Day 1 went perfect for mafia if thats what you mean yeah. Mayhaps Kruppe did not intend to save Tumblewood. Are there other reasons for jailing people yes. It prevents nks. So... to save him right. Kruppe plz answer!
No.. I don't see it in the rules but most of the time the mafia nk can be RB'ed. So he guessed that TW would do the nk and tried to stop it.
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On July 22 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:+ Show Spoiler +You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them. His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter. This is his opinion on kush, the only one. On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face. Then grack starts the train. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched. On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town? He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never. On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc There are also other stuff. To answer the case on me. I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e. I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made. I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are: a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush. That's a sly line. If you're not town reading me for pointing out crucial mistakes from a town pillar I don't know what makes me town. This is not you Koshi. I had a solid D1, both kush and Palmar were my townreads and I pushed agaisnt kush lynch when it was still in discussion. I had no reason to townread kush when the only main argument on why he's scum, by Grack was based on tone and I pushed grack for it. Now I only have to figure out who are your teammates.
It is Rels and Tumblewood.
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Also, you don't need to find my buddies just yet.
You need to convince this entire town I am mafia. gl with that.
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On July 22 2016 23:29 Skynx wrote:
I refuse to believe you are playing bad. Playing bad is not same as having bad reads. You can have bad reads but you had nothing on kush and still went for it.
Hmm. I think I produced lists in which Kush had in them.
I did say that Kush shouldn't be looked at till he was proven wrong or showed face. But I didn't have an other option that moment.
Rels was there and I didn't have the balls to go for him.
All other people looked town to me.
Also. About "refusing" to believing I was "bad". That's just really silly. I think people in the game knew how I ended up on Kush. It wasn't opportunistic scum at all. I made enough posts to see how my thought process was and what happened.
Your push on me is based on something very flimpsy. Adding extra factors as "not townreading you for making a case on you" is really cool and all. But it wont fly as town will see right through it.
But keep up the push on me. You are weakening the strong position you worked yourself in during D1.
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On July 22 2016 23:33 emperorchampion wrote:
what is this shit from both of you? It's either tvt or svs for sure.
no tvs is very much a possibility.
svs not so much.
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On July 22 2016 23:34 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:32 Skynx wrote:
Lynch me and lynch Koshi next if you want guys. I don't want to play this game. Kruppe asks you, Skynx, why are you so annoyed?
his scumread is fighting back. and wont roll over and die.
Very annoying!
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On July 22 2016 23:38 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:33 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 23:29 Skynx wrote:
I refuse to believe you are playing bad. Playing bad is not same as having bad reads. You can have bad reads but you had nothing on kush and still went for it. Hmm. I think I produced lists in which Kush had in them. I did say that Kush shouldn't be looked at till he was proven wrong or showed face. But I didn't have an other option that moment. Rels was there and I didn't have the balls to go for him. All other people looked town to me. Also. About "refusing" to believing I was "bad". That's just really silly. I think people in the game knew how I ended up on Kush. It wasn't opportunistic scum at all. I made enough posts to see how my thought process was and what happened. Your push on me is based on something very flimpsy. Adding extra factors as "not townreading you for making a case on you" is really cool and all. But it wont fly as town will see right through it. But keep up the push on me. You are weakening the strong position you worked yourself in during D1. Tumble, haze and few others were ready to go for Rels. You didn't had balls cuz he was there and go for afk kush? Well guess now I have balls to go all-in on you.
Sure. It seems so. I wonder why you decided to go "all-in".
You were in such a good position. Why risk it all and go "all-in".
Rels is your buddy?
Imagine if he isn't mafia and we lynch him today. That would make tomorrow so good!
No really skynx. You need to find more reasons why I am mafia. Just going with the "he made a mistake on the Kush lynch that is unforgivable" is simply not enough. You need to give this town more.
They deserve it.
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On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town.
Rels is always town? How so?
What is your read on DCWasabi and Tumblewood?
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Even if you think I am 100% mafia skynx. Please talk to me. Let's work this out.
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On July 22 2016 23:43 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Day 1 Votecount
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, PrplhzGrackaroni, Skynx, Sicklucker
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (2): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (1): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Palmar(0):: Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx
nnn_thekushmountains (5): [Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, koshi, palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi
Not voting (0):
Deadline is in on Thursday, Jul 21 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Currently kush is set to be lynched with five votes. if anything is wrong please pm your local mod support So if we go with DC as green and koshi as green, then we have probably at least 1 scum in Grack/sicklucker. That would mean 1-2 scum in Tumble / prpl / rels skynx lunatic probably green let me think some more on this
I don't think there was any incentive for mafia to jump to or create the Kush wagon. So don't assume mafia showed face. The only thing you can assume is that mafia tends to spread out a bit. It's what mafia does.
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On July 22 2016 23:44 Skynx wrote:
And if I'm wrong which means you, Kruppe and lot are town than you guys don't deserve win anyway.
Why wouldn't you deserve a win! We can easily turn this around.
On July 22 2016 23:45 Skynx wrote:
I was gona make a desperate case on you but cba. This is the best way. Decide between me and Koshi folks.
The day is still young. Come back and rethink this.
atm I am strongly feeling Rels is mafia. It is important that you decide what alignment Tumble and DCWasabi have. And tell the thread.
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On July 23 2016 04:36 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:29 Skynx wrote:
I refuse to believe you are playing bad. Playing bad is not same as having bad reads. You can have bad reads but you had nothing on kush and still went for it. Even if Koshi didn't agree with my interpretation of Kush. (@Koshi, did you? I'm not sure.) He has pointed out that he is using process of elimination with his 3/6 chance of hitting mafia on Kruppe. Kush lynch would follow the exact same logic from Koshi.
probably didn't. Just thought it had a decent chance to hit scum.
On another note, it is nice to see that Kush is gaining so many followers. He deserves it.
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##unvote
##vote TW
apparently Tumblewood is scumreading me for voting Rels who he thinks is 100% scum since D1. Also Rels made some sense with that last post.
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On July 23 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:
Lynch me or Koshi. Not anyone else.
Sad days. Why can't you move back and read what is happening.
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On July 23 2016 05:24 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town. neither of you are getting lynched today fyi relax. its probably rels
Rels is making sense atm. I think we should consider Tumble.
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Mafia is within these 4 names. I can't believe it almost.
2) DCWasabi
3) Skynx
8) Gracaroni
10) Tumblewood
Rels is not mafia or outplayed me superhard the last few hours.
Sicklucker is not mafia I think. He is solving the game even if it is a bit slow for my taste. But he is solving it and going towards the correct solution.
Lunaticman could be mafia. But I would applaud him if he is. The insanity is too consistent. Pretty "strange" player though. I think he will get normalized with playing more games.
All other names are pretty town to me. They just played very town. I would be really surprised if I were wrong on them at this point in time.
I am pretty sure.
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I think it is between Skynx and Grac for last scum. Leaning Skynx atm.
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On July 23 2016 06:48 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 06:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 23 2016 03:44 Lunaticman wrote:On July 23 2016 03:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Heh I'm slow. I'm still making my way through the start of the current day. And I'm refreshing this page all the time too. I want the lynch today to be someone of these three: 10) Tumblewood 11) Kruppe the eel 12) Koshi I am positive there is at least one scum among them. It feels like Skynx and Koshie are town. I had Tumble down as town too. Kruppe is an enigma too me. I don't have time to do any deep analysis for until tomorrow though. Why do you want to lynch a blue? Why do you want to lynch koshi, who you think is town? Well is he? I'm just positive he could still be mafia.
If you are the Jailer. Please claim. It is the correct play. Otherwise Kruppe is 100% confirmed.
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On July 23 2016 06:53 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 06:50 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2016 06:48 Lunaticman wrote:On July 23 2016 06:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 23 2016 03:44 Lunaticman wrote:On July 23 2016 03:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Heh I'm slow. I'm still making my way through the start of the current day. And I'm refreshing this page all the time too. I want the lynch today to be someone of these three: 10) Tumblewood 11) Kruppe the eel 12) Koshi I am positive there is at least one scum among them. It feels like Skynx and Koshie are town. I had Tumble down as town too. Kruppe is an enigma too me. I don't have time to do any deep analysis for until tomorrow though. Why do you want to lynch a blue? Why do you want to lynch koshi, who you think is town? Well is he? I'm just positive he could still be mafia. If you are the Jailer. Please claim. It is the correct play. Otherwise Kruppe is 100% confirmed. I am not that blue role, I just feel like can we be sure he is the jailer for 100%? There is no confirmation right when he uses his role? So how can we know unless someone claims it.
Because there are 2 blue roles in the game. If he is mafia, the real jailer would know kruppe is mafia and attack him. If it is the setup without jailer the mason would probably contact somebody to attack Kruppe.
Like.. There is no way set up ways Kruppe is mafia atm.
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On July 23 2016 06:55 DCWasabi wrote:I just got caught up on the thread but I don't have time to analyze and post a lot right now. You can expect me back in 5-6 hours at which point I will try to be useful. I am town. This makes me thinks that Rels is mafia because from what I have gleaned he is a veteran and he is tunneling me all game (and I am town). If he is really town then apparently he is bad at reading newbies. ##vote Rels
Come on... That is weak. Fist of all he isn't tunneling you anymore. Secondly, he just put a ton of content in the thread to analyse. This is very lazy DCW.
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Mafia is trying to get Rels killed.
Please be very careful atm guys. There is no way that both Tumble & Wasabi are town in my mind and they are both gunning for Rels.
Be careful with voting Rels now. I don't think he is mafia and getting bussed.
PLEASE.
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On July 23 2016 06:58 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 06:57 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2016 06:55 DCWasabi wrote:I just got caught up on the thread but I don't have time to analyze and post a lot right now. You can expect me back in 5-6 hours at which point I will try to be useful. I am town. This makes me thinks that Rels is mafia because from what I have gleaned he is a veteran and he is tunneling me all game (and I am town). If he is really town then apparently he is bad at reading newbies. ##vote Rels Come on... That is weak. Fist of all he isn't tunneling you anymore. Secondly, he just put a ton of content in the thread to analyse. This is very lazy DCW. It's not lazy, it is all I have time for at the moment. I told you when I was going to post more. IF that is not good enough for you, then too bad, idgaf.
Then don't vote if you have no idea what is happening?
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On July 23 2016 06:59 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 06:57 Lunaticman wrote:On July 23 2016 06:54 prplhz wrote:On July 23 2016 06:53 Lunaticman wrote:On July 23 2016 06:50 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2016 06:48 Lunaticman wrote:On July 23 2016 06:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 23 2016 03:44 Lunaticman wrote:On July 23 2016 03:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Heh I'm slow. I'm still making my way through the start of the current day. And I'm refreshing this page all the time too. I want the lynch today to be someone of these three: 10) Tumblewood 11) Kruppe the eel 12) Koshi I am positive there is at least one scum among them. It feels like Skynx and Koshie are town. I had Tumble down as town too. Kruppe is an enigma too me. I don't have time to do any deep analysis for until tomorrow though. Why do you want to lynch a blue? Why do you want to lynch koshi, who you think is town? Well is he? I'm just positive he could still be mafia. If you are the Jailer. Please claim. It is the correct play. Otherwise Kruppe is 100% confirmed. I am not that blue role, I just feel like can we be sure he is the jailer for 100%? There is no confirmation right when he uses his role? So how can we know unless someone claims it. Aha! Because townie will never lie about being the jailer to escape a lynch. So if he is lying he must be scum. And the real blues would know that he was lying and they would CC (counter claim) to expose him and make him lynched. Since that didn't happen, we assume he is town unless something happens. Yes but he only did it after knowing he was going to get lynched right? isn't that the ultimate mafia move? I don't think I would do that even if I was the jailer. I would just claim a blue role MAYBE. I am suprised no mafia has CC him though, if I was mafia I would have done it 8/10 times.
Sure. If you think you can win it and it is worth the 1v1 trade.
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Sicklucker,
Careful with that vote on Rels. I don't think he is mafia anymore. Please unvote and reconsider for the time being.
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On July 23 2016 13:03 DCWasabi wrote:
OK, well turns out "solving the game" was a bit too ambitious, but I can give my thoughts...
Rels: #1 Mafia
He tunneled me 4ever, confirmed town (to myself).
He is also throwing shade at tumble, who I believe is town and Prp who is my #1 town read.
Grackaroni: Mafia
Rels #1 bestest teamate, if Rels flips town then disregard this read
prplhz: #1 town
consistant tone, changes his mind when presented with evidence, hard to fake passion, hesitant to lynch Kush, good thoughts about Kruppe
Skynx:
I think she is town or a skilled mafia, more likely town.
Filter is fucking long.
Good logic and reading things, moving thread forward.
I like her case on Koshi and defence of Kush.
note:
I don't read prplhz or Skynx as Mafia for scumreading me necessairly, because I admit that parts of my play have looked a bit scummy.
They aren't tunelling me like Rels was.
Kruppe: town for now because nobody cced
Tumble: Town
He is either town, or I think he is a really good at mafia.
Lunaticman:
Another fking long filter.
I think he is town, but if he ever confirmed town... do this: Go back and look at posts where he suspected somebody and then see who questioned his credibility right afterwards or called him crazy (they may be mafia).
Empc:
Town, as I explained earlier, I don't think his play this game is the exact same as his last scum games. For me it is noticeably different, even if he is not driving thread forward with logic, I feel like his posts are more heartfelt and not forced. Either he is town this game or he got better at playing mafia. i hope I'm not wrong.
There is also some Wifom about his "random vote" that yielded Palmar. I think it leans town as it would be too obvious to then NK palmer, but Wifom will be Wifom. It is a bit weird though that he then didn't comment on the idea that maybe mafia were setting him up... but it is not like he was really pushing for a Palmar kill, so it is probably nothing...
1 more thing, he is defending me at a points where I think it would have be stupid to do so if he was mafia. I mean, if there are several town on me right now, then I think Mafia could have a good shot at lynching me with a push form just 1-2 Mafia (please don't do that).
He says I need to step up and I think that is fair.
Sicklucker:
Towny because his reads make sense to me
Koshi: Town
if he is not town then we will worry about that later, he can actually push thread forward if he is town.
WELL FK, one of my TR has to be Mafia because it doesn't add up
The 2 reads I care about today are very generic.
One is mafia because he is scumreading you...
The other one is town because he would be good at mafia...
Other reads are better, but less important today.
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Also the Grack read is insanely funny if you are mafia with TW and Grack.
Mafia agenda by DCWasabi:
Push Rels with pure OMGUS and spare Tumble with a lame excuse. When Rels flips town have a good excuse to exonerate scumbuddy Grack and see where the chips fall tomorrow.
For me the scumteam is pretty much still the 4 names I said before.
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On July 23 2016 14:28 Grackaroni wrote:
I'll take Rels #1 bestest teammate any day of the week. It seems like he could use a buddy at this point.
awkward joke while commenting on a scumbuddy list?
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Not sure if the following pages were mafia on mafia. And there were mafia there with Tumble/sl/Grack. Or is is poor Skynx anyway
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Tumble/Skynx/Grack/DCW
and benched is sl. But I don't think so.
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Lunatic,
We really need to talk. At this point I don't know what you are doing. It has been multiple hours now that you keep repeating Kruppe/Kushi/Tumble while there is literally 0 chance Kruppe is mafia. And you refuse to use any new evidence or events in the thread to further your read between Koshi and Tumble.
And you are not looking for mafia outside those 3 names while you know well enough that there is.
So. How can I help you? Because you are stagnating. I don't like it.
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Maybe I should bench Lunatic. Nobody has a real grip on this game yet it seems and it might be because off him? Probably not though.
Sicklucker, could you please please please hurry up a bit and try to solve it a bit further than Grack alone. I haven't read your filter too in depth but it seems like you are refusing to see & explore the bigger picture this game.
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On July 23 2016 23:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Also the Grack read is insanely funny if you are mafia with TW and Grack.
Mafia agenda by DCWasabi:
Push Rels with pure OMGUS and spare Tumble with a lame excuse. When Rels flips town have a good excuse to exonerate scumbuddy Grack and see where the chips fall tomorrow.
For me the scumteam is pretty much still the 4 names I said before. Could you summarise the list and why I want it in a context
what? I don't understand.
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I need to go to the store. brb. 20ish minutes.
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On July 23 2016 23:42 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 23:39 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should bench Lunatic. Nobody has a real grip on this game yet it seems and it might be because off him? Probably not though.
Sicklucker, could you please please please hurry up a bit and try to solve it a bit further than Grack alone. I haven't read your filter too in depth but it seems like you are refusing to see & explore the bigger picture this game. You aren't reading any of this are you?
Yes. I saw you think sl is mafia. I just don't see it myself and it is not that you bring forward damning evidence.
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Ok. Just opened his filter. I agree he could very easily be mafia. Sorry.
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On July 24 2016 00:16 emperorchampion wrote:
If tumble is town, then koshi/rels/grack could be a possibility. I'm pretty lost tho lol
Your list is really good. Stick with it even if some things don't fall in place. I am certain that you are close to the truth. Switch 1-2 names. Not everything.
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Tumble why am I mafia? Just in 2-3 sentences.
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On July 24 2016 00:23 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 00:21 Koshi wrote:
Tumble why am I mafia? Just in 2-3 sentences. - you have consistently voted to save rels - there are a million confirmed townies and you aren't one of them
You played with me so much... And that is how you will scumread me? Really?
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On July 24 2016 00:27 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 15:04 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 14:48 Tumblewood wrote:On July 23 2016 14:43 Grackaroni wrote:
We're getting way off track. It seems like nobody sees SL lurking in the shadows with the dagger hidden behind his back. why do you want to lynch sl (oh all people) now (of all times) Because he's full of shit. First he wanted to lynch me because I was pushing Kushm4sta. Then he jumped on the Kushm4sta wagon because he thought it was strange that Kushm4sta voted him. End of day 1. Day 2 he says that I'm scummy for leading the Kush wagon while excusing himself from all responsibility because "he would have been lynched anyway", which is a lie since Sicklucker is not an oracle and could not have known who was getting lynched that day until the day was over. Now day 2 comes so he's right back to pushing me because I "would have killed Palmar." Where does he even come up with that? As he has said earlier this game, I played one game with him before and I was town and got nked day 1. So why does he believe I would have killed Palmar? Where is he gleaning this information from? It's certainly not from past experience. If I was scum I wouldn't have killed Palmar because Palmar was being suspicious and wasn't even suspecting me to begin with. And then there's the fact that this thread is filled with information, which he hasn't used at all. All of the suspicions he has posted are based entirely off this NK, which is pretty much wifom. Some people think it was Rels/Koshi/SL who killed Palmar. I think it could be you or a newbie who is giving too much respect for the power of Palmar's play. Either way Sl has contributed nothing of use besides sheeping me and then accusing me out of thin air of wanting to kill Palmar. Well I've explained myself as clearly as I could have here and my post was uniformly ignored. I don't see how you can possibly think SL is coming out with better arguments when he's just using wifom.
You are right. I thought his filter was better. My mistake. We can go to sl. But it would be very annoying if he flips town.
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But yeah. We should have went sl yesterday instead of Kush. Silly.
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On July 24 2016 00:31 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 00:29 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2016 00:27 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 15:04 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 14:48 Tumblewood wrote:On July 23 2016 14:43 Grackaroni wrote:
We're getting way off track. It seems like nobody sees SL lurking in the shadows with the dagger hidden behind his back. why do you want to lynch sl (oh all people) now (of all times) Because he's full of shit. First he wanted to lynch me because I was pushing Kushm4sta. Then he jumped on the Kushm4sta wagon because he thought it was strange that Kushm4sta voted him. End of day 1. Day 2 he says that I'm scummy for leading the Kush wagon while excusing himself from all responsibility because "he would have been lynched anyway", which is a lie since Sicklucker is not an oracle and could not have known who was getting lynched that day until the day was over. Now day 2 comes so he's right back to pushing me because I "would have killed Palmar." Where does he even come up with that? As he has said earlier this game, I played one game with him before and I was town and got nked day 1. So why does he believe I would have killed Palmar? Where is he gleaning this information from? It's certainly not from past experience. If I was scum I wouldn't have killed Palmar because Palmar was being suspicious and wasn't even suspecting me to begin with. And then there's the fact that this thread is filled with information, which he hasn't used at all. All of the suspicions he has posted are based entirely off this NK, which is pretty much wifom. Some people think it was Rels/Koshi/SL who killed Palmar. I think it could be you or a newbie who is giving too much respect for the power of Palmar's play. Either way Sl has contributed nothing of use besides sheeping me and then accusing me out of thin air of wanting to kill Palmar. Well I've explained myself as clearly as I could have here and my post was uniformly ignored. I don't see how you can possibly think SL is coming out with better arguments when he's just using wifom. You are right. I thought his filter was better. My mistake. We can go to sl. But it would be very annoying if he flips town. We may want to just stick with the Tumble lynch at this point. But why were you saying you liked SL's arguments. This is basically all he has said.
I don't know. I thought that somewhere he made that 1 post in which he said something smart. I don't know. I can't explain it. It was dumb.
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My mind is blown open now and I can clearly see you are not likely mafia Grack.
It's now sl/Tubmle/skynx/DC
Now I am really sure I am right there is 3 mafia in there. I got a total grip on all players.
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On July 24 2016 00:33 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 00:28 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2016 00:23 Tumblewood wrote:On July 24 2016 00:21 Koshi wrote:
Tumble why am I mafia? Just in 2-3 sentences. - you have consistently voted to save rels - there are a million confirmed townies and you aren't one of them You played with me so much... And that is how you will scumread me? Really? idk how you play as scum + Show Spoiler +I guess like you have this game? actually either I haven't seen you play really bad as scum or your niceness meta is throwing me off or I'm right
What are the ingame events that make me mafia? Just me "saving" rels? Show me how I am saving Rels.
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On July 23 2016 23:41 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 23:36 Koshi wrote:
Lunatic,
We really need to talk. At this point I don't know what you are doing. It has been multiple hours now that you keep repeating Kruppe/Kushi/Tumble while there is literally 0 chance Kruppe is mafia. And you refuse to use any new evidence or events in the thread to further your read between Koshi and Tumble.
And you are not looking for mafia outside those 3 names while you know well enough that there is.
So. How can I help you? Because you are stagnating. I don't like it. My point is to focus the town and I am convinced there is a mafia in there. Why should I look elsewere? I stated that I thought it was part of the mafia strategy, and here you are still doing it way to prove my point.
You don't focus the town by pointing them towards a blue and ask them to lynch him.
If you want town to focus on Koshi or Tumble. What are your best reason to Scumread Koshi or Tumble? Can you make a list.
Koshi:-
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TumbleWood:-
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On July 24 2016 00:38 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 00:36 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2016 00:33 Tumblewood wrote:On July 24 2016 00:28 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2016 00:23 Tumblewood wrote:On July 24 2016 00:21 Koshi wrote:
Tumble why am I mafia? Just in 2-3 sentences. - you have consistently voted to save rels - there are a million confirmed townies and you aren't one of them You played with me so much... And that is how you will scumread me? Really? idk how you play as scum + Show Spoiler +I guess like you have this game? actually either I haven't seen you play really bad as scum or your niceness meta is throwing me off or I'm right What are the ingame events that make me mafia? Just me "saving" rels? Show me how I am saving Rels. you have always voted the counterwagon, including now
So what? What is your point? I have always said why I prefered my lynchtarget over the other target. If you disagree with those reasons and think I pushed mafia agenda. Show me.
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Please tell the thread when you vote for Tumble. Otherwise there is no way I can know he is lynched.
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On July 24 2016 00:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Been looking at the vote thread for a while. If tumble/koshi is town. There could be a skynx/sl mafia instead. Sl is on every Train.
Tbh I think koshi and tumble are trying to hard to be magia atm. God this is confusing.
Why? give reasons for the statements you make.
Why is tumble 'trying too hard".
Show us.
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On July 24 2016 00:54 Lunaticman wrote:
Well isnt it strange we are almost auto lynching tumble?
Dude. Play mafia and don't do this.
The entire day you are asking to look at tumble and Koshi. 1 is mafia. You give 0 reasons but you "organize town".
Now that we are lynching one out of Koshi/Tumble
You say: "Let's not lynch Koshi or Tumble because they try hard"
And again. You give no reasons.
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Come on.
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On July 24 2016 00:57 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 00:54 Lunaticman wrote:
Well isnt it strange we are almost auto lynching tumble? First reasonable thing you've said all game.
If it is reasonable unvote.
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Nobody here should be voting tumble unless they believe he is mafia. I 100% believe he is mafia because he stopped talking to me when the 5th vote came in. Basically doing damage control.
He can go.
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On July 24 2016 00:59 prplhz wrote:
Yea, I'm not moving. I'm just saying that he's right that scum don't appear to be fighting much on this.
Well how would they fight it? With the names we think are mafia?
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Yes. Explain how it makes Tumble town.
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Maybe you should comment some on TW? Try to save your townread with actual reasoning?
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Sicklucker is extremely afk indeed.
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And DCW could be mafia indeed.
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btw. Kruppe. Always jail to save your own life from now on.
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On July 24 2016 05:01 sicklucker wrote:
Theres no way tumbleweed is mafia. two confirmed towns from my pov are not even voting him. and my most likely mafia suspects are. this wont end well
Who is mafia. gogo
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On July 24 2016 05:02 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 05:02 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2016 05:01 sicklucker wrote:
Theres no way tumbleweed is mafia. two confirmed towns from my pov are not even voting him. and my most likely mafia suspects are. this wont end well Who is mafia. gogo grack his tone is red
You still think Rels is mafia?
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Well I disagree completely. Both Grack and Rels are very likely not mafia.
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On July 24 2016 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
koshi do you not think the 3/4 no voters right now are town? because they are. answer this tho
I believe mafia lies within DCW/TW/SL/Skynx atm
And that Kruppe and luna are not voting yet doesn't worry me at all.
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You are solving this game too slow sl. I don't trust you at all. Sorry.
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I know. But I trust the people currently on Tumble more than I trust you. And I also want to give them (and myself) this lynch so we can further this game.
I think Tumble always needs to be lynched this game. For information it would be better if we lynch mafia today and have at least 1-2 decent players left to solve the game tomorrow. But Tumble is the correct lynch.
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On July 24 2016 05:21 sicklucker wrote:
lunatic you seem like a sensible dude...
you know its 6 votes to hammer and end the day. currently there is 5..
Why would I as mafia be defending the fucking guy with 5? especially when everyones saying im his replacement. answer me that. Tumbles town im town. The mafia is running the show
You have no proof. Fear mongering is just bad.
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On July 24 2016 05:23 Lunaticman wrote:
I think we should do one of these three:
8) Gracaroni
6) Rels
2) DCWasabi
Can you agree on one of them?
I wish the role player would at least give us a name to work of.
The only one I would change to is DCW from that list.
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On July 24 2016 05:31 Lunaticman wrote:
Tbh, I would have liked kruppe the maniac to go online before I vote. but I guess it is rels then. god damn it.
Rels is the worst vote you could do. in my humble opinion. DCW is wayyyy better.
Rels and DCW are almost never mafia together.
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btw. It doesn't matter if we lynch DCW or TW today.
BOTH are likely mafia. Do not let TW or DCW live for eternity because for some reason you think 1 has to be mafia. Both EASILY can be mafia together.
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On July 24 2016 05:52 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm almost positive that mafia is desperate for a Rels lynch right now.
+1
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On July 24 2016 05:53 Lunaticman wrote:
The only good that came out of this basically Tumble should be considered town atm, since I dont think the mafia would buss their own because they had a great day 1.
That is at least 4 town now. If we had another blue role claim now might actually help town immensely.
I JUST FUCKING SAID THAT NOTHING IS PROVEN. TUMBLE CAN EASILY BE MAFIA.
PLEASE FOR FUCK SAKE.
WHEN IT IS D5 PLEASE PLEASE DON'T BE DENSE.
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On July 24 2016 06:09 Skynx wrote:
Doesn't mean he's town. Why is he town?
This is an great question. Lynch luna. (just not today)
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On July 24 2016 06:10 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi please stay calm. We don't want any modkills.
I am as calm as the Ocean.
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On July 24 2016 06:16 sicklucker wrote:
lunatic man i think we just lost two of are votes onto koshi...
Which means we might have to lynch koshi... errr god no
That makes 0 sense. but sure sl.
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On July 24 2016 06:17 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:16 Grackaroni wrote:
And now Lunatic is scumreading Kruppe again. i think that was a joke
it makes jokes?
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On July 24 2016 06:18 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
This is Kruppe's list of traitors:
- Tumblewood
- DCWasabi
- emperorchampion/skynx
Either Kruppe is completely wrong or wrong on at most 1 person.
Let us kill Tumblewood, friends!
I am in.
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Oh btw Mr. Krippe, Sir.
EC is not mafia. The guy played really good through the game.
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##Unvote: DCW
##vote: Tumbleweed
I think I hammered.
EVERYBODY BE QUIET UNLESS I LIE AND I DIDN4T HAMMER.
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Oh yeah. I didn't hammer at all.
lol
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##unvote
##vote DCW
I don't know... FFS.
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Why would DCW move off Rels and kinda break up that wagon? That makes no sense if he and Tumble are mafia tbh. Like it only makes sense if they are mafia with Rels and then Rels is playing the deepest game of bussing.
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On July 24 2016 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
how does it work if we dont get 6? its still the person with the most votes right
Yes it is plurality.
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On July 24 2016 06:31 Lunaticman wrote:
I think based on everything so far, it has to be a koshi lynch. If he flips red we can probably find the rest of the mafia pretty easy. and if he flips green we have a lot of information to go on.
SL and Kruppe I want you to accept this idea, Rels is afk because he is on a trip somewhere. I don't know if his death would gain us any information either way.
How? How? How? How?
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On July 24 2016 06:33 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
My wagon was all town?
If you want to know how likely it is you need to see if there was a mafia counterwagon. If there wasn't there is a chance that it was all town. It would be extremely odd though. DCW and Rels were counterwagons I THINK.
##unvote
##vote Tumble
I don't believe Rels is mafia. Tumble can die. If he flips town I was played by many of you.
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I am very sad about 1 thing this game though. Sad.
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On July 24 2016 06:39 sicklucker wrote:
why cant we kill emperorchampion guys?
10 pages. Most townie in the game.
sure bro. sure
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This is a good game. Amusing.
but can we kill tumble now pretty please?
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On July 24 2016 06:41 Tumblewood wrote:
shit I'll lynch grack
not like I've seen any posts of his where I thought "that's townie"
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On July 24 2016 06:44 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:43 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 24 2016 06:42 Lunaticman wrote:On July 24 2016 06:41 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 24 2016 06:39 Lunaticman wrote:On July 24 2016 06:37 sicklucker wrote:On July 24 2016 06:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Town needs a leader. you have to accept me I stand by my logic in my eyes you are town, so please look at my reasoning. kruppe WHY IS TUMBLE MAFIA? there are better "random" lynches. I explained so many times how I came up with those 5 names Kruppe may be wrong. It is between Rels and Tumble. Rels tries harder as mafia than he does as town. He is away on a trip he said so. He not coming back fully until monday He would be here if he was mafia. Kruppe may be wrong, but Kruppe believes this. THEN CANT WE JUST KILL KOSHI? it would be the same as tumble but I think tumble is town.
Somehow I hope you are a massive troll and a smurf off somebody I pissed off.
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LYNCH TUMBLEWEED. THE INFORMATION WILL BE HUGE. GO
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On July 24 2016 06:46 Skynx wrote:
I'm holding Kruppe responsible for everything to follow.
Vote: Tumblewood
This is hammer.
QUIET.
If he voted.
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DO NOT FUCKING LYNCH GRACK.
HOLY SHIT.
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Ok I am stepping away.
glhf.
mafia played well. Some townies mafia sided extremely again. Unbelievable.
Read either Grack/Koshi/Kruppe their filter to find the mafia team.
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DO NOT LYNCH FUCKING GRACK.
3 MAFIA AND 2 TOWNIES ARE GOING TO LYNCH GRACK. FML
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On July 24 2016 06:48 prplhz wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Tumblewood
Hammer?
Quiet now. I asked it 15 times already so I don't know shit myself anymore.
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I failed to count to 6 around 4 times now. Time to retire.
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On July 24 2016 21:05 Lunaticman wrote:
Wait is kruppe dead? I don't get if there was a night kill.
Read the spoiler.
I think I would lynch dcw today. Or sl or skynx or lunaticman.
But more likely dcw and sl.
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On July 24 2016 21:42 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2016 21:05 Lunaticman wrote:
Wait is kruppe dead? I don't get if there was a night kill. Read the spoiler. I think I would lynch dcw today. Or sl or skynx or lunaticman. But more likely dcw and sl. Ok that sucks, maybe it was implied that he died of course. So even if he jailkeeped himself the mafia could kill him? I think we should just follow kruppes read and get DC or Rels. I also agree that SL, skynx or lunaticman looks extremly scummy from what happend. But remember Kruppe did clear me as town.
He didn't clear you at all. Just like all other players here we believe we can find mafia based on the fact they have extra information. And you play so clueless we don't associate it with mafia play. But you are not cleared. Far from.
You are also pushing a Rels lynch? For what? Kruppe only said to go Rels/Koshi if Tumble was town. If Tumble was mafia he agreed 100% with my list. He just added EC. Which I told him was ludicrous and I think he agreed. Probably didn't read his filter yet and had the same problem I had with Grack earlier. See quotes.
His real reads:
On July 24 2016 06:18 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
This is Kruppe's list of traitors:
- Tumblewood
- DCWasabi
- emperorchampion/skynx
Either Kruppe is completely wrong or wrong on at most 1 person.
Let us kill Tumblewood, friends!
On July 24 2016 06:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Oh btw Mr. Krippe, Sir.
EC is not mafia. The guy played really good through the game. Kruppe possibly agrees. The third traitor is somewhat of a mystery.
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On July 24 2016 00:35 Koshi wrote:
My mind is blown open now and I can clearly see you are not likely mafia Grack.
It's now sl/Tubmle/skynx/DC
Now I am really sure I am right there is 3 mafia in there. I got a total grip on all players.
The only difference between Kruppe and I is that he believes sl is town. I don't know why but w.e. It has something to do with sl saving TW in a way a townie would. But I don't see how scum!sl wouldn't do it the exact same way.
Clearly EC is supertown so I don't even know what Kruppe was thinking on him.
So the following 3 names are on both lists:
Tumble
Skynx
DCWasabi
Following names are on 1 list:
EmperorC
sicklucker
Following name could and should be considered:
Lunaticman
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On July 24 2016 22:09 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm pretty sure Prplhz got a red check on DCW, so that's where my vote is going.
lol I thought the same. +1
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On July 24 2016 22:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Also I think Kruppe is a foolishness smurf.
It is the guy who wrote the News Paper
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ah and I think Grack had the same list as Kruppe and I? The main 3 suspects that is.
And Rels has been gunning for DCW since D1.
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Rels guns for DCW --> Mafia!TW guns for Rels?
Koshi guns for TW (D2 early) ---> Mafia!Skynx guns for Koshi?
Did you want to kill me cuz I voted TW D2 Skynx? Because there was some serious hate coming out of you
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On July 24 2016 22:17 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 22:15 Koshi wrote:
ah and I think Grack had the same list as Kruppe and I? The main 3 suspects that is.
And Rels has been gunning for DCW since D1. Yeah for the most part. I think Kruppe town read SL and I still think he's mafia.
Good. So we can be besties.
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On July 24 2016 22:18 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 22:08 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2016 21:42 Lunaticman wrote:On July 24 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2016 21:05 Lunaticman wrote:
Wait is kruppe dead? I don't get if there was a night kill. Read the spoiler. I think I would lynch dcw today. Or sl or skynx or lunaticman. But more likely dcw and sl. Ok that sucks, maybe it was implied that he died of course. So even if he jailkeeped himself the mafia could kill him? I think we should just follow kruppes read and get DC or Rels. I also agree that SL, skynx or lunaticman looks extremly scummy from what happend. But remember Kruppe did clear me as town. He didn't clear you at all. Just like all other players here we believe we can find mafia based on the fact they have extra information. And you play so clueless we don't associate it with mafia play. But you are not cleared. Far from. You are also pushing a Rels lynch? For what? Kruppe only said to go Rels/Koshi if Tumble was town. If Tumble was mafia he agreed 100% with my list. He just added EC. Which I told him was ludicrous and I think he agreed. Probably didn't read his filter yet and had the same problem I had with Grack earlier. See quotes. His real reads: On July 24 2016 06:18 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
This is Kruppe's list of traitors:
- Tumblewood
- DCWasabi
- emperorchampion/skynx
Either Kruppe is completely wrong or wrong on at most 1 person.
Let us kill Tumblewood, friends! On July 24 2016 06:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 24 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Oh btw Mr. Krippe, Sir.
EC is not mafia. The guy played really good through the game. Kruppe possibly agrees. The third traitor is somewhat of a mystery. Yes you are correct, I just vaugly remembered Rels and DC was mentioned by kruppe the last time I checked. If that is true I see no reason why we would not lynch DC. And I am not clueless, I was the one who got the train started on tumble, although it was for the wrong reasons. If you check my filter I knew there was a mafia between Koshi/tumble. Dont blame me for beliving him. He did convince me he was town later which was obviously wrong. That is why I wanted to switch the lynch to Koshi instead. We are lucky I didn't manage to sway enough votes between me and SL. And to say I'm pushing is a bit harsh, I assumed he wanted us to lynch them which you can tell by the way I phrased the sentence, do you have to post perfect everytime and check every filter? I think that is not the way the game is supposed to be played. I mean there is a reason you cant edit right? however I thank you for correcting me.
I agree you shouldn't be correct every time. But I found it odd that in your posts the names EC and Rels popped up while it is very clear the names DCW/sicklucker should be way more prominent.
And you are not clueless about the game of mafia. You clearly know how it should be played. But you are always doing these things... Like push Tumble/Koshi/Kruppe as a group of people but not say who is the most likely mafia. When did you say Tumble was likely mafia and we should lynch him? You talked more about Kruppe being mafia while the guy was OBVIOUS blue... That is what I mean with clueless.
Same thing around TW lynch.
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On July 24 2016 22:21 Grackaroni wrote:
But townie points for hammering.
no way that gives him townie points. His general play makes him town. And the fact Skynx doesn't dare to touch him with a 10 foot pole.
Skynx is the Emperor whisperer. The guy knows EC is mafia when EC makes 2 posts. This game Skynx doesn't even dare to talk to Emperor who is his nr 1 townread and has had opposite reads the entire game.
Skynx is always mafia over EC this game based on meta alone.
That and the fact skynx is 10 times more mafia than EC on gameplay alone.
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On July 24 2016 22:26 Grackaroni wrote:
Question for entire thread:
Does anyone disagree with prplhz's case on DCW from yesterday?
No. 100% agree. But I am waiting on Monday and Rels.
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skynx/dcw/sicklucker
2 out of 3
lunatic benched.
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I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell EC is mafia. I have read his filter AGAIN. I am not 100% sure ofc but seriously..
These guys, should repeated after me: "EC is not mafia"
On July 24 2016 19:25 Skynx wrote:
Emperors last min was scummy aswell.
On July 24 2016 20:50 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 20:26 sicklucker wrote:
emperor why did you vote one person in the vote thread and vote the other in the main thread with like 3 minutes before deadline? There is a high probability, that SL and EC are scum. Kruppes read was perfect, I think I will just wait for his reads and do what he says.
On July 24 2016 20:16 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 19:59 emperorchampion wrote:
There is probably 3 mafia on grack (maaaybe just 2). Almost certain that 1 of grack/sl is mafia, and grack is certainly town. I think we go sl for now.
I think cop only claims if they are about to be lynched or if the lynch target is checked green. eh no we are both town im pretty sure I dont see how you can reach that conclusion if even I think that ##vote emperorchapion aka the guy lurking at the end waiting to see if he could save tumble
Especially it is beyond me that a vet like sicklucker doesn't see it.
Sicklucker, I would very kindly ask that you read EC his filter and give a definitive read on him. Because I know on of you 3 or maybe all 3 are trying to get him lynched and I don't understand why.
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Is there any reason sl and skynx are not mafia together?
I can see dcw be town. But then those 2 need to be mafia.
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On July 23 2016 13:03 DCWasabi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +OK, well turns out "solving the game" was a bit too ambitious, but I can give my thoughts...
Rels: #1 Mafia
He tunneled me 4ever, confirmed town (to myself).
He is also throwing shade at tumble, who I believe is town and Prp who is my #1 town read.
Grackaroni: Mafia
Rels #1 bestest teamate, if Rels flips town then disregard this read
prplhz: #1 town
consistant tone, changes his mind when presented with evidence, hard to fake passion, hesitant to lynch Kush, good thoughts about Kruppe
Skynx:
I think she is town or a skilled mafia, more likely town.
Filter is fucking long.
Good logic and reading things, moving thread forward.
I like her case on Koshi and defence of Kush.
note:
I don't read prplhz or Skynx as Mafia for scumreading me necessairly, because I admit that parts of my play have looked a bit scummy.
They aren't tunelling me like Rels was.
Kruppe: town for now because nobody cced
Tumble: Town
He is either town, or I think he is a really good at mafia.
Lunaticman:
Another fking long filter.
I think he is town, but if he ever confirmed town... do this: Go back and look at posts where he suspected somebody and then see who questioned his credibility right afterwards or called him crazy (they may be mafia).
Empc:
Town, as I explained earlier, I don't think his play this game is the exact same as his last scum games. For me it is noticeably different, even if he is not driving thread forward with logic, I feel like his posts are more heartfelt and not forced. Either he is town this game or he got better at playing mafia. i hope I'm not wrong.
There is also some Wifom about his "random vote" that yielded Palmar. I think it leans town as it would be too obvious to then NK palmer, but Wifom will be Wifom. It is a bit weird though that he then didn't comment on the idea that maybe mafia were setting him up... but it is not like he was really pushing for a Palmar kill, so it is probably nothing...
1 more thing, he is defending me at a points where I think it would have be stupid to do so if he was mafia. I mean, if there are several town on me right now, then I think Mafia could have a good shot at lynching me with a push form just 1-2 Mafia (please don't do that).
He says I need to step up and I think that is fair.
Sicklucker:
Towny because his reads make sense to me
Koshi: Town
if he is not town then we will worry about that later, he can actually push thread forward if he is town.
WELL FK, one of my TR has to be Mafia because it doesn't add up
Let us imagine that DCW is town. Everything he did was actually completely "logical". He was just 100% wrong on everything. Look at that list
the guy hard townreads:
Skynx, Sicklucker, Tumble....
and then hard scumreads:
Grack, Rels
And at the end of the day decided to vote Koshi who he townread in that list.
There is no surprise that he mafia sided like hell during D2. But is he is mafia? Wouldn't he vote better to save mafia?
Like... It could be a town being 5000% wrong. Is he mafia and so horrible wrong? Mafia with TMI most of the times tries to make friends with town, tries to at least sound a bit like they are on the correct path.
This guy? Not so much.
I think we need to look at skynx and siclucker more.
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On July 25 2016 01:01 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 00:56 Koshi wrote:
Is there any reason sl and skynx are not mafia together?
I can see dcw be town. But then those 2 need to be mafia. Mafia had the chance to move the lynch from TW to DCW yesterday and nobody voted DCW that didn't also vote for TW.
They did. But then they would have shown serious face when DCW flipped town. And they never really had the votes to hit the iml.
I think mafia tried to make town switch to dcw but stay in the dark themselves.
And if DCW is mafia. It is only TW and 1 more hidden mafia that was pushing town.
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Somehow it feels correct DCW is town. His filter looks very honest.
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Reading his entire filter he always believed tumble was town. Always.
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On July 25 2016 01:30 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 01:26 Lunaticman wrote:I also think it is kinda funny that Grack and Koshi are always posting at the same time I'm just watching Totalbiscuit's tournament right now, so I'll post whenever I see anything interesting come up.
goddamn I forgot. Got to watch.
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On July 25 2016 01:55 DCWasabi wrote:
I gotta go now, but I'll try to be around much later, hopefully I don't lose my will to play again.
No. Grack is not mafia DCW. Trust me on this. If there is mafia left. It is within Skynx and Sicklucker. At least you should look there.
It isn't "mafia" to not know who the cop is.. And even if prplhz is not cop and just faking, just play along lol...
Grack is not mafia DCW. Reconsider the entire game. All "confirmed" townies are thinking one way, and you the other. Why...
Can you give a new list, please?
Confirmed town:
town:
null:
mafia:
Confirmed mafia:
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On July 25 2016 02:08 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread
Why are you quoting that Skynx? Do you think EC is mafia?
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On July 25 2016 01:58 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 01:54 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 22:17 Koshi wrote:Rels guns for DCW --> Mafia!TW guns for Rels? Koshi guns for TW (D2 early) ---> Mafia!Skynx guns for Koshi? Did you want to kill me cuz I voted TW D2 Skynx? Because there was some serious hate coming out of you Sorry bro, I was wrong about pretty much everything this game I hardpushed you cuz of non-righteous kush lynch. You were supposed to be a town pillar and meh ok i guess i vote kush really touched my nerve.
Seems like a pretty good excuse to hide behind.
##unvote
##vote Skynx
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##unvote
##vote Skynx
for visibility
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On July 25 2016 01:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Do you think DCW is being framed somehow?
nha devils advocate and I don't see why skynx or sicklucker is not mafia.
I think that dcw is maximum lynchbait or mafia.
Hard to tell it apart.
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On July 25 2016 03:47 Lunaticman wrote:
Haha it made perfect sense but it is nice to see you finally had the courage to try and get rid of me.
Tbh your arguments are inflated and doesn't make sense. I explained quite adequately, there are two possible scenarios at play depending on what tumble flipped.
SL and I only looked suspicious depending on the tumble flip. EC gave himself a good 100% townread by his action
Are you butthurt because you almost got lynched?
I'm fine with getting lynched but then you have to do this when I flip green:
Koshi/Grac (ps: I like how koshi stopped posting at the same time as grac even though he said they were going to watch the show together when I called them on it, feels super scummy)
and/or
SL/DC
one should reveal the other.
scummy behaviour:
EC because of the voting
lol no words xcept lol
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##unvote
##vote Lunaticman
Either he is mafia or he is town and loses the game for town further down the road.
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##unvote
Waiting for Rels though.
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On July 25 2016 05:03 prplhz wrote:
can somebody put words on why DCWasabi is town?
seems like it's just a feeling
Nowhere in this game has he ever tried to put himself in a good position. Literally all lists and all reads he had were 100% wrong.
Somewhere a mafia tries to actually look good eventually, they plan ahead.
DCWasabi was able to make the worst possible post each time.
Maybe he is mafia and wanted to win with all mafia alive. But I am entertaining the idea that he is town COMPLETELY on the wrong path.
And there is 2 mafia in Lunatic/Skynx/Sicklucker
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On July 25 2016 05:12 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 05:05 Koshi wrote:On July 25 2016 05:03 prplhz wrote:
can somebody put words on why DCWasabi is town?
seems like it's just a feeling Nowhere in this game has he ever tried to put himself in a good position. Literally all lists and all reads he had were 100% wrong. Somewhere a mafia tries to actually look good eventually, they plan ahead. DCWasabi was able to make the worst possible post each time. Maybe he is mafia and wanted to win with all mafia alive. But I am entertaining the idea that he is town COMPLETELY on the wrong path. And there is 2 mafia in Lunatic/Skynx/Sicklucker Both SL and I are actually town if you read my argument above.
You are both mafia so I don't really care for your wifom arguments.
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If you keep pushing ec as mafia in the thread without actually having any fucking proof except hammering Tumble then I just have to vote you.
##unvote
##vote sicklucker
The guy is obvious town and this is the 4th 5th time you try to incriminate him for no reason.
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Not DCW. EC is never mafia.
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On July 25 2016 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:
SL, you don't agree with what I wrote about Lunatic?
sl is playing his own game. Hasn't tried to converse with anybody.
I am going to call him mafia for it.
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On July 25 2016 07:42 prplhz wrote:
did something change on TL Mafia and now people just give up after a lynch or what
ofc not. mafia can easily win depending on who the cop is.
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On July 25 2016 09:40 DCWasabi wrote:So hey, prplz? You ain't the cop, for reasons that I already outlined. Grack supposedly thought this was a cop claim??? Did anybody else feel that way?
Yes. I was rolling my eyes when I saw that.
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DCW, do you have any games played here as mafia? I want to check meta.
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anyway. I am going to sleep now. I should have a lot of work tomorrow. (@ work)
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On July 25 2016 12:15 DCWasabi wrote:
We don't even know that there is a cop in the game, based on the setup, there could be a Vig instead, since all we know is that there is a Jailkeeper.
Or do you secretly know more?
Ok this guy is 100% town.
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He is town. I am sure.
His filter is just town.
Skynx lynch sl.
Grack lynch sl.
Prplhz lynch sl.
Rels wherr are you
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On July 25 2016 16:39 Rels wrote:
yo I'm back in the society (= I had a fucking great weekend! Fucking WP on lynching Tumble ^^
I've got lots of meetings today so I'll catch up during my lunch break, in a few hours. See you then (=
Good. Please check dcw again with an open mind. I really dont think he is mafia.
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On July 25 2016 17:05 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 16:41 Koshi wrote:He is town. I am sure. His filter is just town. Skynx lynch sl. Grack lynch sl. Prplhz lynch sl. Rels wherr are you You never even considering emp here is funny.
oh yeah emp. Lynch sl.
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On July 25 2016 17:07 Skynx wrote:
So Koshi you say Lunatic is entirely lost town, DCW is tone based town.
Me/SL last mafia then? I think its quite the opposite
Lunatic can be mafia.
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omfg. prplhz is probably mafia. Holy shit.
I am 100.000.000% sure that EC is not mafia.
But prplhz though. Would he come back and sit on tumble as 5th? He was on our side so he could almost not go to Grack.
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##unvote
##vote prplhz
This guy. This fucking guy.
Thoughts?
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prplhz and skynx. I think there is the answer.
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No it is prplhz and Lunatic.
That is way more likely.
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I can't believe you were hidden for so long prplhz. Holy shit.
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hahaha
fucking lunatic and prplhz.
Jeezus how did I figure this out.
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prplhz is mafia.
And for all the insane fucking things Lunatic has done. I think he never ever once said anything about prplhz.
I am sure it is those 2. ggwpnore.
Fuck I can't believe it. Mafia can't hide forever I guess.
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On July 25 2016 17:58 Skynx wrote:
If haze is mafia as you say Koshi, he ensured Tumble's death from very early on. Rels and Kruppe were always voting Tumble. Grack was suspicious I think so only need 1 more for equilibrium case.
I think mafia always tries to save Tumble D2. µ
Tumble said on Grack.
Lunatic used all his town cred to save Tumble and sit on Grack. It was ridiculous tbh.
prplhz tried to go DCW with me. Only went back very hesitant as 5th vote.
I am certain mafia team is prplhz/Lunatic/Tumble.
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On July 25 2016 18:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 17:58 Skynx wrote:
If haze is mafia as you say Koshi, he ensured Tumble's death from very early on. Rels and Kruppe were always voting Tumble. Grack was suspicious I think so only need 1 more for equilibrium case.
I think mafia always tries to save Tumble D2. µ Tumble said on Grack. Lunatic used all his town cred to save Tumble and sit on Grack. It was ridiculous tbh. prplhz tried to go DCW with me. Only went back very hesitant as 5th vote. I am certain mafia team is prplhz/Lunatic/Tumble.
EBWOP
Tumble sat already on Grack.
Lunatic used all his town cred to save Tumble and sit on Grack. It was ridiculous tbh.
prplhz tried to go DCW with me. Only went back very hesitant as 5th vote.
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Here prplhz moves back to Tumble:
On July 24 2016 00:42 prplhz wrote:
Tumblewood at 5 votes.
1 more and it's hammer and goodbye and silence.
But even though he had Tumble as mafia before he moved with me to DCW, he still undermines the tumble lynch:
On July 24 2016 00:57 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 00:54 Lunaticman wrote:
Well isnt it strange we are almost auto lynching tumble? First reasonable thing you've said all game.
On July 24 2016 00:58 prplhz wrote:
It's more reasonable to lynch Tumblewood. But this lynch does feel a little easy. Compared to how he keeps saying that Kruppe the Eel should be lynched, this is fairly reasonable.
On July 24 2016 04:36 prplhz wrote:
the alternative to lynching Tumblewood is not lynching anyone
this is a pretty bad situation for town if Tumblewood is town
On July 24 2016 04:39 prplhz wrote:
I'd much rather just MURDER DCWasabi. He seems to be putting noticably less deliberation into the game than he did last game. You could say that carefree reads would ostensibly point to town but it just seems like he doesn't care as much about pushing his ideas as he did the last two games I played with him.
Like just now, just 5 minutes of going through Tumblewood's filter and posting a couple of posts with a one liner smacked on them. Just doesn't seem like how he posted in the other games, he would be more inquisitive and then when he had an idea he would push it. This just seems like "you guys do whatever as long as I have some deniability for whatever's happeneing".
He bussed.
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And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.
And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town.
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On July 25 2016 18:38 Lunaticman wrote:
I wont participate more in the discussion since nobody has any good responses to what I'm saying just throwing shade and ignoring.
I'm just waiting for a blue claim. I'll be back before the vote.
Coming from he guy who kept repeating Kruppe was mafia and his latest idea of scumhunting was posting 3 teams of 2 people who were mafia together.
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On July 25 2016 18:53 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 18:22 Koshi wrote:
And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.
And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town. Can we go Lunatic today then? I have DC maf yiu have haze, we can sort that out later.
No. Prplhz is the way to go today.
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What is sl his angle as mafia to spare dcw? There was a legit chance that DCW was going to get momentum if there is no mafia within Koshi/prplhz.
Yet every mafia refused to go to that lynch?
And don't tell me dcw is mafia because he is town.
Mafia wanted to kill Grack. There are at least 2 mafia on Grack. Tumble + lunatic.
There is a chance that the third mafia is on Grack as well (skynx or sl) but I am townreading skynx pretty heavily now. And sl a bit.
I believe prplhz was the mafia that tried to make the DCW wagon happen with me. And both Tumble and Luna didn't want to be third and waited till there was more town on the wagon to swap.
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If prplhz is town.
Koshi is town.
Then there is no way mafia sl sticks out his neck so hard to save Tumble, but then refuses to take the DCW path. Unless they are mafia together. But there is no other way.
My story makes more sense atm.
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Lunatic is just pushing town into the wrong direction constantly and hasn't had a single decent game solving thought in his 17 page filter. The guy limits himself to just posting random scumteams without any decent logic behind it. But the most damning is that he yelled the entire D2 that there was mafia within Kruppe/Tumble/Koshi and then voted Grack. That is inconsistent and pushed mafia agenda.
Lunatic also only makes somewhat sense if he is defending himself, then suddenly it makes somewhat sense why he did things (even in our world). I do not believe that the guy is so clueless about finding mafia.
And let me explain once more: Clueless does not mean he doesn't know how mafia works, he knows, but he has never presented to this thread a real reason why somebody is mafia.
Also for 17 pages of filter. He never ever is convinced somebody is mafia ever. Like one moment he could say "Koshi is mafia" and the very next post he is trying to convince me that prplhz is not mafia and we should lynch Grack.
And for prplhz:
Only player this game that is flying under the radar. Received townreads in the start from literally everybody and is riding that townread to the sunset. Mafia or potential mafia never tries to put any suspicion on him, look at lunatic, never ever is prplhz in a scumteam, same for sicklucker, and probably also tumble, --> prplhz doesn't exist to these people. Yet EC is getting scumread 24/7. While the guy is town incarnated;
I showed that during the lynch he was with me to swap to DCWasabi, and after that didn't happen (why??? if we both are town) he moved back after me to Tumble (he had really no choice tbh or show serious face) but kept advocating to not lynch Tumble.
Other than that prplhz has not made enough posts that jump out. But I guess that is the flying under the radar part.
Not saying I am 100% certain. But I have shown that prplhz and Lunatic could have actual hidden agendas this game.
prplhz plays silent mafia that puts himself in a good position. Classic.
Lunatic I don't believe is town. What did the guy do that was solely town in his filter? Or really mafia? He would be very atypical mafia, and for this reason alone gets townread.
sicklucker is just super blunt and open, if he wanted to save Tumble so bad he could have went to DCW. I don't think DCW is mafia, I don't think sl is mafia. I have to be wrong on both. I don't believe that.
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On July 25 2016 21:08 Grackaroni wrote:This is by far the most important quote from Rels. Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 01:16 sicklucker wrote:
so we have acual evidence in a very very recent game where super LITERRALY ASKED ME TO BUS HIM. but I refused.
Yet for me to be scum here I would have had to run such a crazy epic bus on super AND ONEGU.
like its acualy so improbable and you can not denie my logic here This is essentially a confirmation that SL has lied this game. He said that if he was mafia he would just bus his teammates and win the game easily. When faced with a similar situation in a different game he did the opposite because he knew he would never win in the way that he described he could win as scum this game.
Why wouldn't sl be town and be wrong on Tumble because he really thought it was impossible there wasn't at least 1-2 mafia on the Tumble lynch because he townread all the non voters (and those were town, if he is town)
It is not because as mafia sl never busses that every time he accidental saves a mafia he is lock mafia. Maybe town!sl also saves mafia?
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You can lynch sl, he can be red, easily, but my list is
prplhz
lunatic
dcw
sl
skynx
top is most mafia and if either dcw or sl flips mafia in the future the other one needs to be autolynch.
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I am certain it is lunatic and prplhz though.
I feel extremely strong about it. I will never vote anything else today.
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On July 25 2016 21:23 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 21:21 Koshi wrote:
You can lynch sl, he can be red, easily, but my list is
prplhz
lunatic
dcw
sl
skynx
top is most mafia and if either dcw or sl flips mafia in the future the other one needs to be autolynch. Why are you mafia reading DCW now?
I am not. I am townreading him. Just like I am townreading you.
But I know that I can be wrong, I am wrong a lot, and if I am wrong, it is dcw that is mafia, and not you for example.
I am not wrong though. Top 2 names.
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##unvote
## vote Lunaticman
Sure I can vote him first.
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On July 25 2016 18:56 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 18:53 Skynx wrote:On July 25 2016 18:22 Koshi wrote:
And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.
And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town. Can we go Lunatic today then? I have DC maf yiu have haze, we can sort that out later. Why do you keep forcing me to post: DC and haze are way better lynches than me, I'm suprised you can't see it. Koshi and Skynx you are too try hard for your own good.
How did prplhz suddenly become a better lynch than you? This is the first time you spoke of him ever.
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On July 25 2016 22:13 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 22:09 prplhz wrote:On July 25 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 25 2016 22:05 Koshi wrote:On July 25 2016 18:56 Lunaticman wrote:On July 25 2016 18:53 Skynx wrote:On July 25 2016 18:22 Koshi wrote:
And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.
And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town. Can we go Lunatic today then? I have DC maf yiu have haze, we can sort that out later. Why do you keep forcing me to post: DC and haze are way better lynches than me, I'm suprised you can't see it. Koshi and Skynx you are too try hard for your own good. How did prplhz suddenly become a better lynch than you? This is the first time you spoke of him ever. Are you not reading the thread again? other people were suggesting he was scum based on the classic "silent mafia" etc. Jebus, I'll lynch myself soon this is to much like talking to someone with a memory of a goldfish. be nice Why? all he is doing is regurgitating the same non sense without actually responding to what I am saying. That is not constructive. just read his filter. Its like 3 pages on whatever I'm saying is wrong. And the he blames me for not being constructive.
Can you put a % each person has to flip mafia? I would be interested in that. Because to me it seems you have no internal list of who could be mafia. Why else would you suggest to lynch prplhz at that time. You never once said he could be mafia before that. While you named almost all other people as mafia during the game.
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
3) Skynx
5) emperorchampion
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
12) Koshi
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oh and btw
I can remember who said prplhz could be mafia because so far I am the only one who really supports that idea.
But I can also understand you don't get questions that require a bit of reading between the lines.
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On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins?
If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted.
Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓
1) Prplhz 75%
2) DCWasabi 75%
3) Skynx 50%
4) Lunaticman 60%
5) emperorchampion 0%
6) Rels 25%
7) sicklucker 60%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi
Maybe you are not mafia.
##unvote
##vote Prplhz
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On July 25 2016 23:08 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins? If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted. Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓ 1) Prplhz 75% 2) DCWasabi 75% 3) Skynx 50% 4) Lunaticman 60% 5) emperorchampion 0% 6) Rels 25% 7) sicklucker 60% 8) Gracaroni 0% 12) Koshi Maybe you are not mafia.
##unvote
##vote Prplhz is sicklucker my scumbuddy?
that is the question you are going to ask me after I have been calling you mafia for over +10 posts now?
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If DCWasabi is not mafia, you aren't mafia, I see no reason why mafia didn't join us.
Can you give me one?
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How can you get this argument?
Who do you think is mafia?
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I have no idea where to look anymore. Completely clueless.
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##unvote
##vote DCWasabi
Him and Skynx I guess
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Yeah. I am done for today.
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##unvote
##vote sicklucker
now everybody is on 2. I am done.
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He said he targeted TW. And he was probably RB'ed.
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ec and skynx
pff. it is possible I guess.
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Grack and Rels... lolololol
wp. Everything is always a possibility but that one was not going to happen.
Knew something was wrong D3 though. I just attacked everybody because everybody was town and then it was an endlesss circle of people that looked town.
fml wp mafia team.
Fuck my copcheck N1...
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I am actually pretty happy I knew DCW and EC were town. But come on... Such ez buss and town still didn't want to lynch Tumble.
Insane when town is so divived on mafia/town wagons and mafia was just full on buss.
Mafia team 100% outplayed town. Doesn't happen often.
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I don't know why prplhz killed himself because I don't read games I am not in anymore put I hope I didn't put too much pressure on him D3. I just didn't know where to look.
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All in all pretty epic D2 lynch.
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On July 29 2016 02:25 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
I don't know why prplhz killed himself because I don't read games I am not in anymore put I hope I didn't put too much pressure on him D3. I just didn't know where to look. This was so bad, I just don't know like that really decided a lot in this game. Also why didn't you claim when I asked you too do it?
So I could maybe get a check off? It was wishful thinking but claiming blue with nothing to show for seems pointless.
I had nothing. I was RB'ed and had a towncheck on Palmar..
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